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Scouse Hibee
01-05-2018, 08:42 PM
It’s ignorant prejudice not just ability that stops black managers making it. Who’d put up with the kind of ***** you just spouted in their everyday job and accept it day in, day out. The kind of post you’d expect on Rangers media FFS. I’m sure you posted it this as a bit of Alf Garnett style trolling to see who you’d reel in. Well done, pat yourself on the back, with your post-colonial superiority complex, little Englishman.

Whoa steady tiger, I wasn't expressing my own views but the reality of the facts at the time Barnes was Celtic manager. Quite ironic that you decided to bring my nationality into it though.

Sir David Gray
01-05-2018, 08:50 PM
Whoa steady tiger, I wasn't expressing my own views but the reality of the facts at the time Barnes was Celtic manager. Quite ironic that you decided to bring my nationality into it though.

I thought that was fairly obvious to be honest!

Pretty Boy
01-05-2018, 08:55 PM
It’s ignorant prejudice not just ability that stops black managers making it. Who’d put up with the kind of ***** you just spouted in their everyday job and accept it day in, day out. The kind of post you’d expect on Rangers media FFS. I’m sure you posted it this as a bit of Alf Garnett style trolling to see who you’d reel in. Well done, pat yourself on the back, with your post-colonial superiority complex, little Englishman.

I think SH was referring to the fact that very few black people make it to the top in football management in the UK, it’s been recognised for years, as opposed to suggesting being black somehow limits Barnes ability.

There’s an irony in you complaining about prejudice given your own last sentence.

snooky
01-05-2018, 08:56 PM
One thing Gerrard could probably do is attract players to sign for the first club he manages. Players that wouldn't normally not give a thought of playing for that team otherwise.

Pagan Hibernia
01-05-2018, 08:58 PM
Listening to Gary Linneker in the BT Sport studio with Gerrard, it’s basically a done deal.

Why, what has Gerrard said?

snooky
01-05-2018, 09:00 PM
Why, what has Gerrard said?

"Hullo, hullo" :wink:

CorrieHibs
01-05-2018, 09:05 PM
Crazy. What is he thinking? My son is in a state of unhappy confusion about the whole thing.


I'm in a state of shock. Liverpool are my second team and Gerrard is one of my favourite players. I have a Liverpool shirt framed and signed by him.

I might have to sell it!

WhileTheChief..
01-05-2018, 09:07 PM
Wonder if Rangers will end their feud with the BBC now?

Stevie’s pals n that.

Scouse Hibee
01-05-2018, 09:17 PM
I'm in a state of shock. Liverpool are my second team and Gerrard is one of my favourite players. I have a Liverpool shirt framed and signed by him.

I might have to sell it!

Same, however I will comfort myself that all of my signed memorabilia was signed when he was either with Liverpool or LA Galaxy so it stays.

hibsbollah
01-05-2018, 09:27 PM
I'm in a state of shock. Liverpool are my second team and Gerrard is one of my favourite players. I have a Liverpool shirt framed and signed by him.

I might have to sell it!

Junior is thinking about pretending there are two different SGs. Good one and evil one. Like Spiderman and Venom.

Scott Allan Key
01-05-2018, 09:31 PM
I think SH was referring to the fact that very few black people make it to the top in football management in the UK, it’s been recognised for years, as opposed to suggesting being black somehow limits Barnes ability.

There’s an irony in you complaining about prejudice given your own last sentence.

I have obviously misunderstood the post and I apologise directly, the irony was intended and I can see with hindsight that it was unnecessary, as Scouse wasn’t demeaning the ability of black managers today. Sorry, Scouse, I’m half English myself, half Scouse and probably face far too much time warding off ignorant prejudice to my own family to worry about Mr Barnes.

Billy Whizz
01-05-2018, 09:31 PM
Wonder if Rangers will end their feud with the BBC now?

Stevie’s pals n that.

Think it BBC who are boycotting Rangers

Jim44
01-05-2018, 09:35 PM
Why, what has Gerrard said?

He said that he had been in serious discussions with Sevco and that after his two days with BT Sport it would be back to the discussions. It was jocular nod and, wink, wink stuff from Linneker and to me he seemed to be saying “we know you’ve probably got the job but we understand you can’t say anything”. A bit later Linneker was referencing Scottish matches this weekend and said “ lots of interest for you there, Steven, quite a bit of homework for you, eh?” ( or words to that effect ). OK, most of the inuendo was from Linneker but Gerrard was making no attempt to downplay it and in fact seemed to enjoy it.

Scouse Hibee
01-05-2018, 09:39 PM
I have obviously misunderstood the post and I apologise directly, the irony was intended and I can see with hindsight that it was unnecessary, as Scouse wasn’t demeaning the ability of black managers today. Sorry, Scouse, I’m half English myself, half Scouse and probably face far too much time warding off ignorant prejudice to my own family to worry about Mr Barnes.

No problem mate.

3pm
01-05-2018, 09:41 PM
Dennis Wise talking on SKY saying Gerrard will get a nice ‘pot’ to spend..... 👀

Jim44
01-05-2018, 09:44 PM
Dennis Wise talking on SKY saying Gerrard will get a nice ‘pot’ to spend..... 👀

With all due respect to Mr Wise, what the the hell does he know about the Sevco financial situation?

GordonHFC
01-05-2018, 10:10 PM
Dennis Wise talking on SKY saying Gerrard will get a nice ‘pot’ to spend..... 👀

Don't know how, they don't even have one to piss in.

monktonharp
01-05-2018, 10:41 PM
Couldn't believe it when I heard what Shearer said but I don't think he's alone !. Think it's mainly because a few English players/media/agents etc have come up here to one or two 'Old ****' games and probably think the 'atmosphere' is fantastic (I've certainly heard English commentators/pundits say this) but they're on flying-visits to Glasgow, in-out of the stadium and the remainder of their time spent in 5-star establishments with heavy security, isolated from everything. I think they'd have a change of opinion if they knew exactly what's being sung (on both sides) or if they knew of the % increase in domestic-battery/assaults etc when that game takes place !. In general I think a lot of folk down South really have very little idea of what actually goes on when it comes to the 'Old ****' game as they don't get to see or hear what happens outside of the actual game - I remember there being quite a bit of bewilderment/amazement/horror when Alex Thomson started reporting on C4 of the Huns crimes, journalists/lawyers receiving death-threats, the GFA-handling of it, the laughable reporting of the Scottish media - it certainly added to the 'Mickey-Mouse' slur we've heard so often !yup, would like to see some realist comments from the English media , if for example they visited a community centre in Drumchapel. that is real life in Glesga'. or the Louden bar in the Gorbals for a wee hauf' afore the gemme

HibbiesandtheBaddies
01-05-2018, 10:46 PM
I don't think it does, Gerrard will be well aware of the situation up here there is no doubt about it. Maybe he fancies the challenge, whilst everyone is saying it's madness he obviously doesn't give a ****. Nothing really for him to lose in regard to reputation in the game.

Really? he sounds well thick.

Santa Cruz
01-05-2018, 11:19 PM
Has anyone passed Gerrard a copy of the Rangers song book? He is a Catholic after all.

He no doubt knows the Celtic song book, which we all know includes the stolen anthem from his former Club. Shame he won't be able to join in with YNWA at his first derby. Anytime that is sung, the cameras will be on him the whole time.

Scouse Hibee
02-05-2018, 02:11 AM
Really? he sounds well thick.

Yeah well thick 😴

GreenLake
02-05-2018, 02:46 AM
Dennis Wise talking on SKY saying Gerrard will get a nice ‘pot’ to spend..... 👀

He will be lucky to get a pot to pish in.

Dashing Bob S
02-05-2018, 04:26 AM
I think this is a bad appointment for Gerrard to take and I hope he fails miserably in it. He’s obviously being used as name by King to draw in gullible financiers. High risk for him, no risk for the Hun. Very tough job trying to detoxify that brand.

SirDavidsNapper
02-05-2018, 05:43 AM
I think this is a bad appointment for Gerrard to take and I hope he fails miserably in it. He’s obviously being used as name by King to draw in gullible financiers. High risk for him, no risk for the Hun. Very tough job trying to detoxify that brand.

I dont see it as a risk for Gerrard. When it goes tits up he'll just go back to Liverpool as a coach and pundit. Rangers on the other hand are taking a massive gamble that will only end one way.

JimBHibees
02-05-2018, 06:01 AM
If they get him a good appointment in terms of profile will be a difficult job but he wouldn't be there without promises of transfer pot so could well work out. For all Murty was criticised they are still ahead of us in the league. Probably Murray bankrolling this. 10 in a row is an obsession for them.

Allant1981
02-05-2018, 06:15 AM
If they get him a good appointment in terms of profile will be a difficult job but he wouldn't be there without promises of transfer pot so could well work out. For all Murty was criticised they are still ahead of us in the league. Probably Murray bankrolling this. 10 in a row is an obsession for them.

they are only ahead on goal difference, they have spent a lot of money this year on transfers and wages and are still gash, there is nothing to suggest gerrard will make them any better just because he might have money to spend, he has never been in that position before so will have to listen to others

JimBHibees
02-05-2018, 06:26 AM
they are only ahead on goal difference, they have spent a lot of money this year on transfers and wages and are still gash, there is nothing to suggest gerrard will make them any better just because he might have money to spend, he has never been in that position before so will have to listen to others

Apparently Gary McAllister coming with him. If he has money he also will know a player so will make them better. The only risk is that rangers are a basket case off the pitch but if he gets investment no point in thinking they won't be better.

Brizo
02-05-2018, 06:32 AM
I'm pleased The Thes appear to have gone for yet another untried and untested manager.

If they had any sense, which is a misnomer, they would have been looking at someone like Warnock, a self confessed hun with a high profile managerial pedigree. No chance he'd go there now but they might have got him before they went for Pedro.

Gerrard might be a success but I think theres more chance of it all imploding massively, which would be more great news for Scottish football.

Jim44
02-05-2018, 06:57 AM
BBC 2 news saying that final discussions will take place after the Liverpool game tonight and he will be in charge against Kilmarnock. I wish it was against us. :cb

One Day
02-05-2018, 07:11 AM
I hope he takes the job and fails miserably and scuttles off back to Liverpool with his tail between his legs

Scouse Hibee
02-05-2018, 07:12 AM
I hope he takes the job and fails miserably and scuttles off back to Liverpool with his tail between his legs

Me too.

green day
02-05-2018, 07:17 AM
BBC 2 news saying that final discussions will take place after the Liverpool game tonight and he will be in charge against Kilmarnock. I wish it was against us. :cb

Slightly bonkers to go in charge before the season end?

Would have thought he would want the close season to get in players.

I know the lad would have done diligence, asked scottish pundits about it etc - his problem is that he would have spoken to people like Souness who could barely find Scotland on the map these days, let alone have any clue how The Huns do their business.

Another example of English people thinking "its Scotland, its easy" - see J Barton etc.

I will keep my pint of schadenfreude nice and cool in the fridge for when Gerrard falls flat on his pus.

SirDavidsNapper
02-05-2018, 07:20 AM
Whats the chances of him trying to buy McGinn and taking Dylan? He'll have been made well aware of them.

Jack Ferrigan
02-05-2018, 07:40 AM
Very unwise move for Gerrard. Particularly as his first coaching appointment. It's very obvious that "The Rangers" hierarchy are using this sideshow to entice the gullible as the season tickets for 18/19 come on stream. There is no money at Ibrox and this is a desperate effort to try and provide funds for keeping the club alive next season.
The Rangers finances are in a perilous state like some other clubs who tried to cheat the system.
Heyho it'll be fun to watch.

jacomo
02-05-2018, 07:42 AM
BBC 2 news saying that final discussions will take place after the Liverpool game tonight and he will be in charge against Kilmarnock. I wish it was against us. :cb


Wow. So he starts his first managerial job, in The goldfish bowl, and will be instantly under pressure to get 2nd place?

Lenny will absolutely love this I think. Huge media circus, raise the stakes and it brings out the best in our manager.

Kato
02-05-2018, 07:45 AM
Slightly bonkers to go in charge before the season end?

Would have thought he would want the close season to get in players.
.

Desperate throw of the dice to ensure second and Europe without which they are toast.

surreyhibbie
02-05-2018, 07:55 AM
I like the guy, was a great player, and its sad to see that he has taken this step.

I think it will destroy him. Not because of any lack of ability, but that job (and the club itself) is toxic

feel sorry for him to be honest.

SirDavidsNapper
02-05-2018, 08:00 AM
We need to remember this isn't some masterplan by Rangers. He was 3rd choice at best behind McInnes and Clarke and they even gave Murty until the end of the season before they'd even considered Gerrard. Like others have said it's desperate straw clutching by Rangers and a huge risk that only has one outcome.

bingo70
02-05-2018, 08:14 AM
I like the guy, was a great player, and its sad to see that he has taken this step.

I think it will destroy him. Not because of any lack of ability, but that job (and the club itself) is toxic

feel sorry for him to be honest.

I agree about liking him.

I don’t agree that he comes across thick either, I think he actually comes across as a pretty intelligent guy that clearly knows what he’s talking about when it comes to football, lot of snobbery on this thread imo that’s mistaking working class to sounding thick.

He was on bt sports earlier in the season discussing Scott browns challenge on 16 year old Harry Cochrane and he seemed pretty respectful of Scott Brown and knew a little about our game as well which surprised me.

I personally think this could be a decent appointment for the rangers but I think his biggest danger could be underestimating the Scottish game, if it’s true he’s bringing Gary McAllister as his assistant that gives me cause for encouragement too though as I reckon he’ll know nothing about our league. If Gerrard makes the mistake of thinking any old Tom, hun or harry from down south will be better than what’s up here he’ll be in for a shock.

makaveli1875
02-05-2018, 08:16 AM
If someone had said a couple of years ago that Celtic would have Rodgers , Huns would have Gerrard and we'd have Lennon they'd have been laughed out of town .The beauty of it is Lennon has won more as a manger than the 2 of them put together :greengrin

FilipinoHibs
02-05-2018, 08:22 AM
I'm pleased The Thes appear to have gone for yet another untried and untested manager.

If they had any sense, which is a misnomer, they would have been looking at someone like Warnock, a self confessed hun with a high profile managerial pedigree. No chance he'd go there now but they might have got him before they went for Pedro.

Gerrard might be a success but I think theres more chance of it all imploding massively, which would be more great news for Scottish football.

They needs someone who knows the Scottish game and culture.

FilipinoHibs
02-05-2018, 08:23 AM
I agree about liking him.

I don’t agree that he comes across thick either, I think he actually comes across as a pretty intelligent guy that clearly knows what he’s talking about when it comes to football, lot of snobbery on this thread imo that’s mistaking working class to sounding thick.

He was on bt sports earlier in the season discussing Scott browns challenge on 16 year old Harry Cochrane and he seemed pretty respectful of Scott Brown and knew a little about our game as well which surprised me.

I personally think this could be a decent appointment for the rangers but I think his biggest danger could be underestimating the Scottish game, if it’s true he’s bringing Gary McAllister as his assistant that gives me cause for encouragement too though as I reckon he’ll know nothing about our league. If Gerrard makes the mistake of thinking any old Tom, hun or harry from down south will be better than what’s up here he’ll be in for a shock.

My train encounter with him several years ago indicates thick , arrogant and living in a bubble.

Captain Trips
02-05-2018, 08:38 AM
they are only ahead on goal difference, they have spent a lot of money this year on transfers and wages and are still gash, there is nothing to suggest gerrard will make them any better just because he might have money to spend, he has never been in that position before so will have to listen to others

Indeed, if we had been given the Sevco budget for this season I bet we wouldn't be struggling to finish 2nd 3rd or 4th.

He could get 100m and still not do any better than us or Aberdeen.

Captain Trips
02-05-2018, 08:44 AM
They needs someone who knows the Scottish game and culture.

They do need that but somebody who knows all that will know very likely they will not win league which Sevco fans will demand regardless so won't go near it. Very high chance you will be forgotten as a failure.

hibsbollah
02-05-2018, 08:45 AM
Indeed, if we had been given the Sevco budget for this season I bet we wouldn't be struggling to finish 2nd 3rd or 4th.

He could get 100m and still not do any better than us or Aberdeen.

:agree:

You'll never get an exact figure, but the hun have somewhere around seven times our player budget. Yes, seven times. That must always be the first thing to consider, even when the media like to ignore it, when we're talking about what Hibs have achieved in being neck and neck with them at this stage. By contrast, their under performance is a joke.

bingo70
02-05-2018, 09:00 AM
My train encounter with him several years ago indicates thick , arrogant and living in a bubble.

How many years ago are we talking?

I’m reluctant to go out my way to defend a rangers manager too much however people do grow up and become more sensible as they get older, I can’t say I followed him too much when he was younger but I personally think he comes across well on the tv now.

Still hope he’s an unmitigated disaster though.

lapsedhibee
02-05-2018, 09:01 AM
Still hope he’s an unmitigated disaster though.

Even a mitigated disaster would be pleasing enough. :agree:

Callum_62
02-05-2018, 09:05 AM
BBC 2 news saying that final discussions will take place after the Liverpool game tonight and he will be in charge against Kilmarnock. I wish it was against us. :cb

Cant see that anywhere?

Id be shocked if he was put in charge before seasons end

Imagine they stumbled to 4th with him in charge....

Hibbyradge
02-05-2018, 09:13 AM
I don't want Gerrard to go there.

He may not have managed a club before, but neither had Tony Mowbray and he was a real success.

Gerrard brings a wealth of experience at club, European and international level and will automatically command respect from his players.

If he does take over at Ibrox, I'd expect them to enjoy a " new manager bounce" and can see them beating Killie and Aberdeen.

I hope I'm wrong and it all goes tits up immediately, but I think that most of us would have thought it was a positive appointment if we'd recruited him.

FilipinoHibs
02-05-2018, 09:16 AM
How many years ago are we talking?

I’m reluctant to go out my way to defend a rangers manager too much however people do grow up and become more sensible as they get older, I can’t say I followed him too much when he was younger but I personally think he comes across well on the tv now.

Still hope he’s an unmitigated disaster though.

7 years so not too long. Thick at 30 then thick at 37. Maybe the arrogance has been tempered but still living in a bubble so doubt it.

SlickShoes
02-05-2018, 09:17 AM
Whats the chances of him trying to buy McGinn and taking Dylan? He'll have been made well aware of them.

Hibs won't sell a player to Rangers, it's going to take many years before that happens. Dylan would not go there under freedom of contract, he will have better offers.

bingo70
02-05-2018, 09:24 AM
I don't want Gerrard to go there.

He may not have managed a club before, but neither had Tony Mowbray and he was a real success.

Gerrard brings a wealth of experience at club, European and international level and will automatically command resect from his players.

If he does take over at Ibrox, I'd expect them to enjoy a " new manager bounce" and can see them beating Killie and Aberdeen.

I hope I'm wrong and it all goes tits up immediately, but I think that most of us would have thought it was a positive appointment if we'd recruited him.

I agree with you but I remember reading somewhere that the new manager bounce is a complete myth now. Maybe used to happen but pretty rare now I think.

Tbf it might have just been tam McManus blethering on twitter so it could be rubbish but sure he pointed out quite a few examples.

Smartie
02-05-2018, 09:31 AM
I've sometimes wondered how easy it will be for "modern footballers" to make the transition to management.

For starters I like Gerrard, he comes across well as a pundit who is thoughtful, intelligent and knows his subject.

But he is of a generation of footballer who are pampered millionaires who live their lives in a comfortable bubble. It is a very long time since they've experienced life anything like the punters who "pay their wages".

There is a lot of pressure on every manager. You have to have a real sense of spirit or resolve to face up to furious, idiotic Huns, knowing that you could be sitting in a studio doing the criticising, or at home on your sofa.

To be fair to Gerrard he did seem to have a toughness as a player, but I wonder how many current top players will make a successful switch to management.

SirDavidsNapper
02-05-2018, 09:34 AM
Wrapped in cotton wool at Liverpool his whole career where he could do no wrong and everyone was eating out the palm of his hand. I suppose he earned that being a terrific player mind.

One draw with Hamilton or a routine beasting from Celtic and he'll be under mammoth pressure by the SMSM and the Rangers fans. Wonder if he's ever heard the words taig, bheggar or tarrier before.. I really don't think he knows what he's letting himself in for. McInnes and Clarke said no for a reason.

O'Rourke3
02-05-2018, 09:36 AM
If he does sign and manage the last 3 games there's a chance he's off again in a month citing family reasons. Meanwhe STs renewed and jobs done....

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Hibbyradge
02-05-2018, 09:37 AM
I agree with you but I remember reading somewhere that the new manager bounce is a complete myth now. Maybe used to happen but pretty rare now I think.

Tbf it might have just been tam McManus blethering on twitter so it could be rubbish but sure he pointed out quite a few examples.

See Kilmarnock FC 😉

Crazyhorse
02-05-2018, 09:41 AM
I agree with you but I remember reading somewhere that the new manager bounce is a complete myth now. Maybe used to happen but pretty rare now I think.

Tbf it might have just been tam McManus blethering on twitter so it could be rubbish but sure he pointed out quite a few examples.

I do recall there was a (Dutch or Swedish?) academic study a few years ago demonstrating that statistically the notion of the new manager bounce was rubbish.

Onceinawhile
02-05-2018, 09:44 AM
See Kilmarnock FC 😉

On the other hand, see Stoke or Southampton.

For both sides of the argument, see West Brom this season.

makaveli1875
02-05-2018, 09:46 AM
On the other hand, see Stoke or Southampton.

For both sides of the argument, see West Brom this season.

didnt work out too well for Ross County either

Bostonhibby
02-05-2018, 09:48 AM
Wrapped in cotton wool at Liverpool his whole career where he could do no wrong and everyone was eating out the palm of his hand. I suppose he earned that being a terrific player mind.

One draw with Hamilton or a routine beasting from Celtic and he'll be under mammoth pressure by the SMSM and the Rangers fans. Wonder if he's ever heard the words taig, bheggar or tarrier before.. I really don't think he knows what he's letting himself in for. McInnes and Clarke said no for a reason.

:agree:
Or will he see anything wrong in being the front man for peepul who genuinely rejoice in being "up to their knees" in the blood of another group that is part of society, and meaning it? will he be another apologist for it, or turn a blind eye to it to further his own goals?

BroxburnHibee
02-05-2018, 09:54 AM
Wonder if Rangers will end their feud with the BBC now?

Stevie’s pals n that.

I think The The's have barred Chris McGlaughlin not the Beeb. Until that ban is lifted nothing will change. Shame eh?

SirDavidsNapper
02-05-2018, 09:56 AM
:agree:
Or will he see anything wrong in being the front man for peepul who genuinely rejoice in being "up to their knees" in the blood of another group that is part of society, and meaning it? will he be another apologist for it, or turn a blind eye to it to further his own goals?

He'll probably "turn a blind eye" to it like the rest of the incumbents of the Ibrox managers office. I really hope he doesn't and calls them out on it when the inevitable happens. What a sad, sad society we live in. He'll get his eyes opened thats for sure coming from a club where "fields of Annfield road" was the most poisonous song they sung.

jacomo
02-05-2018, 03:53 PM
If he does sign and manage the last 3 games there's a chance he's off again in a month citing family reasons. Meanwhe STs renewed and jobs done....

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Seems if he does take the job he won’t start until June. Jimmy Nicholl is in charge for final three games.

Famous Fiver
02-05-2018, 04:12 PM
If The The Rangers finish fourth and qualify for Europe I think the qualifying round will be late June/ Early July. Doesn't give him much time to put a squad together if he doesn't start until June.

Gibraltar waiters/Maltese taxi drivers/Luxemburg students could loom large in his early days.

Think I'll order some more popcorn.

GreenOnions
02-05-2018, 04:12 PM
On the other hand, see Stoke or Southampton.

For both sides of the argument, see West Brom this season.

I think it depends to a large extent on whether or not the inherited squad has been under-performing or is just not good enough. An under-performing squad could improve markedly in a short period of time.

Hibs1969
02-05-2018, 04:15 PM
This article in today’s Guardian does a superb job of explaining why Gerrard shouldn’t touch the Rangers job with a barge pole. The writer certainly doesn’t miss the target. It’s hard
to disagree with any of it

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/02/steven-gerrard-foolish-manager-dysfunctional-rangers

The comments below the article are even better reading than the article itself.

Famous Fiver
02-05-2018, 04:30 PM
I look forward to Ewan Murray, whose name appears above the article, could now turn his attention to our friends on the other side of the city and highlight the decades of financial doping and skullduggery which has gone on there? Might give his views on Scottish football and the the Rangers more credibility.

Pot, kettle, black Mr Murray, and I am no Rangers sympathiser!!

For those who don't know, he is a rabid Jambo without a good word to say about Hibs.

Kato
02-05-2018, 04:33 PM
This article in today’s Guardian does a superb job of explaining why Gerrard shouldn’t touch the Rangers job with a barge pole. The writer certainly doesn’t miss the target. It’s hard
to disagree with any of it

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/02/steven-gerrard-foolish-manager-dysfunctional-rangers

The comments below the article are even better reading than the article itself.

Can't read Ewan Murray's copy however much he is on the money. The snidiest sports journalist around.

jacomo
02-05-2018, 04:45 PM
I look forward to Ewan Murray, whose name appears above the article, could now turn his attention to our friends on the other side of the city and highlight the decades of financial doping and skullduggery which has gone on there? Might give his views on Scottish football and the the Rangers more credibility.

Pot, kettle, black Mr Murray, and I am no Rangers sympathiser!!

For those who don't know, he is a rabid Jambo without a good word to say about Hibs.


True, but he’s pretty much on the money here.

Why waste your breath asking him to change his attitude towards Hearts? He’s one of their fluffers. I expect him to write an ‘in defence of Craig Levein’ piece soon, helping to keep him in place for another season. All good!

JeMeSouviens
02-05-2018, 04:48 PM
Can't read Ewan Murray's copy however much he is on the money. The snidiest sports journalist around.

Hearts are so pish he's currently a "golf journalist". :wink:

Elephant Stone
02-05-2018, 04:56 PM
Can't read Ewan Murray's copy however much he is on the money. The snidiest sports journalist around.


He's such a snide it's unreal. That piece he wrote when they went into administration was something else, having a go at people daring to enjoy Hearts' chickens coming home to roost. Wrote a banger of an article when Cathro got appointed as well, absolutely fuming that some people were doubtful about it. If anyone fancies a laugh:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2016/dec/06/scottish-football-hearts-ian-cathro-sfa-malky-mackay

Hibs1969
02-05-2018, 04:58 PM
Hearts are so pish he's currently a "golf journalist". :wink:

That’s a different Ewen Murray, the Hearts supporting Sky golf commentator.

worcesterhibby
02-05-2018, 05:07 PM
True, but he’s pretty much on the money here.

Why waste your breath asking him to change his attitude towards Hearts? He’s one of their fluffers. I expect him to write an ‘in defence of Craig Levein’ piece soon, helping to keep him in place for another season. All good!

I disagree, he fails to mention the elephant that is always in the room but that the MSM are always too scared to mention. That he will be walking into a club where the fan base (which are described as "long suffering" in the article) are deeply entrenched in a hatred of all things Roman Catholic and will be quite willing to scream abuse at him and his family for his RC upbringing, should he dare to lose against celtic (or anyone else for that matter).

Yes the club is a shambles at boardroom level...but what he fails to mention is that it is also Scotland's shame on the terraces. If he even begins to fail, all the hatred and bigotry will be directed at him. something that Jambo, breast-beating Murray fails to mention.

jacomo
02-05-2018, 05:25 PM
I disagree, he fails to mention the elephant that is always in the room but that the MSM are always too scared to mention. That he will be walking into a club where the fan base (which are described as "long suffering" in the article) are deeply entrenched in a hatred of all things Roman Catholic and will be quite willing to scream abuse at him and his family for his RC upbringing, should he dare to lose against celtic (or anyone else for that matter).

Yes the club is a shambles at boardroom level...but what he fails to mention is that it is also Scotland's shame on the terraces. If he even begins to fail, all the hatred and bigotry will be directed at him. something that Jambo, breast-beating Murray fails to mention.



Yes fair point.

Some of the ill informed comment in England is that The Rangers are currently miles behind Celtc, so expectations will be low and supporters will be patient.

Ha ha ha. Expectation will be league title no.55, nothing less, fuelled by Dave King who stoked the flames in order to take control and still now cannot keep expectations in check.

JeMeSouviens
02-05-2018, 05:28 PM
That’s a different Ewen Murray, the Hearts supporting Sky golf commentator.

Nah, the bitter jambo Murray that writes in the guardian does lots of golf stories when Hearts are pish. eg. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/02/tensions-augusta-national-sky-sports-maters-coverage

WoreTheGreen
02-05-2018, 05:36 PM
Nah, the bitter jambo Murray that writes in the guardian does lots of golf stories when Hearts are pish. eg. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/02/tensions-augusta-national-sky-sports-maters-coverage

Pretty busy with the golf then

Swedish hibee
02-05-2018, 06:53 PM
You never know what any player will be like as a manager, but they need a chance somewhere. I wish it wasn't with rangers, but I'm in the camp that he has nothing to loose.
Most clubs would take him back as some kind of coach & he'll always get tv or radio pundit work. And if Swedish women is his thing- he'd get a managers job over here!

heretoday
02-05-2018, 07:10 PM
I would think he has lots to lose in career terms if he fails at Ibrox, which he undoubtedly will do.
What was wrong with him starting at a lower league club in England and working up? He's a bit thick in my view and badly advised.

ian cruise
02-05-2018, 07:13 PM
I would think he has lots to lose in career terms if he fails at Ibrox, which he undoubtedly will do.
What was wrong with him starting at a lower league club in England and working up? He's a bit thick in my view and badly advised.

If he fails at Ibrox he might get a coaching role at Anfield but I can't see them ever giving him the top job. The Rangers job would hang like an albatross around his neck.

Swedish hibee
02-05-2018, 07:22 PM
I would think he has lots to lose in career terms if he fails at Ibrox, which he undoubtedly will do.
What was wrong with him starting at a lower league club in England and working up? He's a bit thick in my view and badly advised.

The championship is the hardest league in the world to get out of, so he won't go there. And if he fails with a lower league club, imagine the stick he'll get..hence why he knocked back the MK Dons job- but if it doesn't work at the Rangers he can blame the Ibrox craziness. It didn't stop Mr Barton getting a job....

Kato
02-05-2018, 07:23 PM
Hearts are so pish he's currently a "golf journalist". :wink:

That's his main gig. What he knows about football as a sport you could paint on a pea with a paste-brush. Can never trust someone whose eyes are only 189 microns apart.

Bostonhibby
02-05-2018, 07:25 PM
Nah, the bitter jambo Murray that writes in the guardian does lots of golf stories when Hearts are pish. eg. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/may/02/tensions-augusta-national-sky-sports-maters-coverage

I'm guessing he is also their carpet bowls and gentlemens knitwear correspondent as well then?

green day
02-05-2018, 07:34 PM
This article in today’s Guardian does a superb job of explaining why Gerrard shouldn’t touch the Rangers job with a barge pole. The writer certainly doesn’t miss the target. It’s hard
to disagree with any of it

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/02/steven-gerrard-foolish-manager-dysfunctional-rangers

The comments below the article are even better reading than the article itself.

Murray is a t1t but can't disagree with much he says here.

Gerrard will be a disastrous and, hopefully costly, appointment.

Bring it on.

Deansy
02-05-2018, 10:49 PM
This article in today’s Guardian does a superb job of explaining why Gerrard shouldn’t touch the Rangers job with a barge pole. The writer certainly doesn’t miss the target. It’s hard
to disagree with any of it

https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2018/may/02/steven-gerrard-foolish-manager-dysfunctional-rangers

The comments below the article are even better reading than the article itself.


'Rangers’ erudite supporters have long since cottoned on .....................'


:faf: :LOL: :rotflmao:

monktonharp
02-05-2018, 10:53 PM
'Rangers’ erudite supporters have long since cottoned on .....................'


:faf: :LOL: :rotflmao:the The Rangers fans couldnae spell Cottoned on.:rolleyes:

jacomo
03-05-2018, 10:35 AM
The English media have it all worked out. Gerrard will be a success because he will sign Liverpool academy players on loan.

They obviously believe no one has thought of this before, and are unaware that loan players from Liverpool, Man Utd and City, Chelsea etc have been a regular part of the Scottish game for years.

JimBHibees
03-05-2018, 10:45 AM
The English media have it all worked out. Gerrard will be a success because he will sign Liverpool academy players on loan.

They obviously believe no one has thought of this before, and are unaware that loan players from Liverpool, Man Utd and City, Chelsea etc have been a regular part of the Scottish game for years.

Like Jordan Rossiter or Connor Randall?

SirDavidsNapper
03-05-2018, 10:55 AM
Like Jordan Rossiter or Connor Randall?

Was Micheal Ngoo not their best youth player?

SirDavidsNapper
03-05-2018, 11:11 AM
The funny thing is the only manager that ticks all the boxes for Rangers is our very own Neil Lennon. Multiple winner as player and manager, worked under impossible circumstances at Bolton, has Hibs challenging for 2nd place after winning promotion at first attempt and knows the Scottish game inside out. Luckily Rangers are so bigoted and narrow minded there's more chance of me winning the euromillions triple rollover and being propositioned by Jennifer Aniston on the same day. Also Lenny hates them :wink:

Sir David Gray
03-05-2018, 11:12 AM
The funny thing is the only manager that ticks all the boxes for Rangers is our very own Neil Lennon. Multiple winner as player and manager, worked under impossible circumstances at Bolton and has Hibs challenging for 2nd place after winning promotion at first attempt. Luckily Rangers are so bigoted and narrow minded there's more chance of me winning the euromillions triple rollover and being propositioned by Jennifer Aniston on the same day.

There's more chance of the Pope being given the Rangers job than Neil Lennon.

Pagan Hibernia
03-05-2018, 11:15 AM
There's more chance of the Pope being given the Rangers job than Neil Lennon.

And he’d be more likely to apply for the pope’s job than go for that one

Bad Martini
03-05-2018, 11:44 AM
Great fitba player for the Reds. Still a fan. Doesn't hide it.

BUT, unlike most Liverpool fans, that's where it ends for me. I don't like him much as a person.

Would he be in the top 5 ever Reds players? For sure.
Number 1? No chance. That's the King, the King is the King and long live the King.

So, with that in mind, his inexperience and the fact his playing service to Liverpool is over, I hope he fails spectacularly. I cannot see another outcome happening either and any promise of loaning Liverpool's youth team and this coming to fruition wont be enough to save the manky ones or him if he does this.

A bad move. A bad, bad move. Still; why hang around and learn from Klopp? Chance to bounce ideas and ask questions from a manager who is doing a fantastic job, leading the team to the top of the table and back towards another European Cup Final. Yep, I can see the lure of the orcs at Grayskull right enough :rolleyes:

Anyways, what the wee teams do in this league doesn't matter to me....we've got bigger fish to fry or concern ourselves with, than a pub team's manager :flag::greengrin:thumbsup:

Captain Trips
03-05-2018, 11:58 AM
Gerrards agent and advisors spotted near Ibrox:

https://i2-prod.liverpoolecho.co.uk/incoming/article10110991.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200/JS72834296.jpg

jgl07
03-05-2018, 01:51 PM
See Kilmarnock FC 😉
Hardly comparable.

Steve Clarke is a highly experienced manager and coach. His success was nothing to do with 'new manager bounce' but all to do with him being a very good manager. His contacts down South enabled him to pick up useful signings.

The other thing to remember is that Killie were an underachieving team with fairly modest aspirations. Getting to the top six would be seen as a major triumph let alone being in the mix for a European place. Rangers, on the other hand, will be expecting to compete with and beat Celtic very quickly. They seem to want someone to do what Souness achieved in the 1980s. A rookie manager dominating the Premier Division first time of asking. The difference is that Celtic were in turmoil and Souness had loads of cash spend.

Stokesy's on fire
03-05-2018, 02:08 PM
Like Jordan Rossiter or Connor Randall?


Randall is ace you have to love that guy!!

Halmyre Hibee
03-05-2018, 02:40 PM
Green specs off for once I think it will raise the profile of Scottish fitba if Gerrard takes this on. No doubt money will be found somewhere to pump into their coffers to try and stop Celtic and compete with us & Aberdeen. Maybe a better TV deal will be forthcoming for all as well.

We have one of the best if not the best Manager in the country and our club is now being well run and hopefully this will continue for many years.

In addition our old supporters are backing the club and the feel good factor is attracting a new generation of fans.

Hopefully he will be in place for the final game and we can replicate that great day in 1986 when Rangers thought Souness was the Messiah.:flag:

BOB MARLEYS DUG
03-05-2018, 02:46 PM
Like Jordan Rossiter or Connor Randall?

Ryan Kent and/or Danny Ward would be good loan signings for them. Sheyi Ojo also.

Bostonhibby
03-05-2018, 03:19 PM
The English media have it all worked out. Gerrard will be a success because he will sign Liverpool academy players on loan.

They obviously believe no one has thought of this before, and are unaware that loan players from Liverpool, Man Utd and City, Chelsea etc have been a regular part of the Scottish game for years.What are the weedgie scarf salesman going to do with all those celtc and Liverpool half and half scarves if this happens?

Sent from my SM-J320FN using Tapatalk

Billy Whizz
03-05-2018, 03:20 PM
Be interesting to know who’s interviewing Gerrard, surely not Dave King?

Scott Allan Key
03-05-2018, 03:33 PM
The funny thing is the only manager that ticks all the boxes for Rangers is our very own Neil Lennon. Multiple winner as player and manager, worked under impossible circumstances at Bolton, has Hibs challenging for 2nd place after winning promotion at first attempt and knows the Scottish game inside out. Luckily Rangers are so bigoted and narrow minded there's more chance of me winning the euromillions triple rollover and being propositioned by Jennifer Aniston on the same day. Also Lenny hates them :wink:

Jennifer Aniston’s eyes are too close together. She looks like a ferret. I reckon there’s a good chance of her getting in your trousers.

blackpoolhibs
03-05-2018, 07:28 PM
https://twitter.com/gibbygibbo1/status/991691299253358592

blaikie
03-05-2018, 09:37 PM
Record reporting a 3 year deal

Pop corn time!

monarch
03-05-2018, 09:53 PM
Record reporting a 3 year deal

Pop corn time!


According to the Record they’ve just shaken hands on the deal so far. Hope he counts his fingers.

So nothing actually signed yet.

HoboHarry
03-05-2018, 09:54 PM
Jennifer Aniston’s eyes are too close together. She looks like a ferret. I reckon there’s a good chance of her getting in your trousers.
She wouldn't have to ask my permission or say please, she could put her hand in my trousers or under my kilt and I would just smile........

Lancs Harp
03-05-2018, 09:56 PM
Jennifer Aniston’s eyes are too close together. She looks like a ferret. I reckon there’s a good chance of her getting in your trousers.

Thanks for the heads up, If I ever get that lucky I'll get her to wear a blindfold.

jacomo
03-05-2018, 10:05 PM
Record reporting a 3 year deal

Pop corn time!


Seems like it’s being announced tomorrow. He met with King in London today.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/may/03/football-rangers-manager-steven-gerrard-appoint-friday-liverpool

That’s a mental decision by gerrard. This should be fun!

:greengrin

hibsbollah
03-05-2018, 10:10 PM
I havent read back more than a few posts so please tell me if im wrong....

Gerrard will be announced as Head Hun Honcho the morrow, but Jennifer Aniston is a possible late entry, if she can be persuaded to get her hands out of Lanc Harps undergarments?

hibbydog
03-05-2018, 10:42 PM
Hopefully he will be in place for the final game and we can replicate that great day in 1986 when Rangers thought Souness was the Messiah.:flag:

Now that is a great prospect !!!

Scott Allan Key
03-05-2018, 10:59 PM
I havent read back more than a few posts so please tell me if im wrong....

Gerrard will be announced as Head Hun Honcho the morrow, but Jennifer Aniston is a possible late entry, if she can be persuaded to get her hands out of Lanc Harps undergarments?

It’s a dead cert. The second bit, anyway.

Stuart93
04-05-2018, 05:46 AM
Tam McManus also saying rich foreign investor ready to plough cash into the rangers

bingo70
04-05-2018, 06:02 AM
Tam McManus also saying rich foreign investor ready to plough cash into the rangers

Nobody wants rangers to fail more than me so don’t take this the wrong way but i wonder if that happens if it could almost have a positive effect on our game.

Gerrard being appointed will raise the profile and interest in our league, there’s no two ways about that, if Rangers and Celtic then manage to get a proper title race on the go (being realistic that’s never likely to happen from hibs, aberdeen & co) I wonder if we might actually start to get some proper investment in our league, especially as sky seem to be losing rights for all other leagues.

With proper investment it may just give the rest of us a chance of closing the gap again given how long we’ve got used to making do with the scraps.

My preference would be for rangers to cease to exist again but trying to find a positive to that story.

jacomo
04-05-2018, 06:26 AM
Nobody wants rangers to fail more than me so don’t take this the wrong way but i wonder if that happens if it could almost have a positive effect on our game.

Gerrard being appointed will raise the profile and interest in our league, there’s no two ways about that, if Rangers and Celtic then manage to get a proper title race on the go (being realistic that’s never likely to happen from hibs, aberdeen & co) I wonder if we might actually start to get some proper investment in our league, especially as sky seem to be losing rights for all other leagues.

With proper investment it may just give the rest of us a chance of closing the gap again given how long we’ve got used to making do with the scraps.

My preference would be for rangers to cease to exist again but trying to find a positive to that story.


This is certainly bringing increased attention to our game. This is a good thing.

But the Rangers are a financial basket case. These rumours about investment seem like nonsense.

Heisenberg
04-05-2018, 06:38 AM
Same rumours about major investment and signing targets always happen at this time of the year for the Huns. Got to ensure they get that season ticket cash in ASAP.

SirDavidsNapper
04-05-2018, 06:41 AM
Oh The Rangers are *****

we are hibs
04-05-2018, 06:44 AM
First signing target is Martin Skrtl so it's basically the exact same as signing Bruno alves a year ago. End of the day his name and career means nothing as he's done absolutely zero as a manager

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 06:47 AM
Anyone that joins that horrid club deserves nowt. When his kids and wife are at a match hope he enjoys explaining what it was they were singing if asked.

"calm down love they just want catholics to die, it's no biggie"

green day
04-05-2018, 07:10 AM
Tam McManus also saying rich foreign investor ready to plough cash into the rangers

I saw that and did ask him on twitter if said investor had "off the scale" cash :greengrin

Lets not poop our pants quite yet, think we all remember how wealthy the last few "investors" have been.

Its great that Gerrard will sign, hopefully it will shine a light on the basket case, sectarian, horrible club down govan way:thumbsup:

chrisski33
04-05-2018, 07:13 AM
Gerrad coming will only raise the profile of the two bigots in Glasgow. Dont be fooled the rest of us will be forgotten in the media. The

ian cruise
04-05-2018, 07:17 AM
Nobody wants rangers to fail more than me so don’t take this the wrong way but i wonder if that happens if it could almost have a positive effect on our game.

Gerrard being appointed will raise the profile and interest in our league, there’s no two ways about that, if Rangers and Celtic then manage to get a proper title race on the go (being realistic that’s never likely to happen from hibs, aberdeen & co) I wonder if we might actually start to get some proper investment in our league, especially as sky seem to be losing rights for all other leagues.

With proper investment it may just give the rest of us a chance of closing the gap again given how long we’ve got used to making do with the scraps.

My preference would be for rangers to cease to exist again but trying to find a positive to that story.

In the 90s and early noughties both teams were flush with cash and signing big names, that didn't filter down to us or other teams it just allowed the old firm to cement their place at the top of the league. Only now is our league becoming more competitive, yes Celtic have won it again but the gap at the top is closer than its been for a while. Next season it could be closer again, there's no guarantee Celtic will manage big name signings and the longer Sinclair, Dembele, etc stay the less effective they seem to be week in week out.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 07:38 AM
I saw that and did ask him on twitter if said investor had "off the scale" cash :greengrin

Lets not poop our pants quite yet, think we all remember how wealthy the last few "investors" have been.

Its great that Gerrard will sign, hopefully it will shine a light on the basket case, sectarian, horrible club down govan way:thumbsup:


It is kind of pointless to invest lots into a club up here unfortunately. The only real avenue of big money is the Champions League and getting quite far in it.

If just doing it as have the money to spare then fair enough.

Bishop Hibee
04-05-2018, 07:48 AM
There will be no benefit for anything other than the Rangers if Gerrard arrives and there is £10m+ investment. The Huns being stuffed has enabled other clubs to have more success.

Betty Boop
04-05-2018, 07:50 AM
Anyone that joins that horrid club deserves nowt. When his kids and wife are at a match hope he enjoys explaining what it was they were singing if asked.

"calm down love they just want catholics to die, it's no biggie"
Do you really think Gerrard will be bothered about what songs they sing ?

Scottie
04-05-2018, 07:56 AM
Sky news confirming now that Gerrard has agreed a deal to become the next manager of 'The Rangers'.

H18 SFR
04-05-2018, 08:00 AM
We need a song for the 13th.

Steven79
04-05-2018, 08:26 AM
We need a song for the 13th.

To the tune of Day dream believer


Cheer up Stevie G

Oh what can it mean

To a scouse *******.....

Managing a ***** football team.

Fuzzywuzzy
04-05-2018, 08:29 AM
Two words - Daniel Cousins

Stokesy's on fire
04-05-2018, 08:35 AM
Steven Gerrards managerial career is over before it has even started I hope he is on a huge wage so it costs them a fortune to pay off the "taig" as he will soon be known as by the Ranjurs Loyal.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 08:37 AM
Do you really think Gerrard will be bothered about what songs they sing ?

I didnt say he would be bothered did I? his family might though.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 08:40 AM
Some Sevco fans are now believing this appointment will win them the title this coming season from one or two whom I have spoken to. If that is a majority view then Mr Gerrard is very likely done before he even starts.

Tinribs
04-05-2018, 08:45 AM
It's great for the Scottish game when you can attract an English youth coach to manage one of your biggest clubs 😂

seanshow
04-05-2018, 08:51 AM
Even rich Peeepul don't invest money without something major in return.
How much are we talking for the rangers to get an even start with Celtic, £30m + I would say.
And even then the other half can open the biscuit tin and splash some cash.

It would make der hun a clear 2nd though.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 08:53 AM
Gerrard, Rodgers, McInnes, Levein you can all get tae as there is only one:

https://i2-prod.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article9985322.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/JS112654391.jpg

GloryGlory
04-05-2018, 08:54 AM
Two words - Daniel Cousins

Three words - Tore Andre Flo. :greengrin

Platinum Scotty
04-05-2018, 08:55 AM
all very confusing to me, they must be splashing some serious cash on Gerrard and any backroom staff (Cant believe McAllister will be doing it for free for instance) and then the first player he's supposedly interested in is still under contract to his current team for another year and is valued at £5m (Skrtel)

wonder what level of due diligence Gerrard and his advisers have done

Billy Whizz
04-05-2018, 08:58 AM
all very confusing to me, they must be splashing some serious cash on Gerrard and any backroom staff (Cant believe McAllister will be doing it for free for instance) and then the first player he's supposedly interested in is still under contract to his current team for another year and is valued at £5m (Skrtel)

wonder what level of due diligence Gerrard and his advisers have done
Seems strange they’ve been linked with a player, when they haven’t even been appointed. Skrtel is 34!
Gerrard, great player, no managerial experience, Gary McAllister, great player, but think he’s been sacked from every managers/coaching gig he’s had!

FilipinoHibs
04-05-2018, 08:58 AM
It is kind of pointless to invest lots into a club up here unfortunately. The only real avenue of big money is the Champions League and getting quite far in it.

If just doing it as have the money to spare then fair enough.

They need £100m to challenge Celtic and no guarantee of winning league to try and qualify for Champions league. Then how more to progress in champions league? So maybe £200 to £300 million with no guarantee of success with a rookie manager. Cant see anybidy risking that amount.

jacomo
04-05-2018, 08:59 AM
Gerrad coming will only raise the profile of the two bigots in Glasgow. Dont be fooled the rest of us will be forgotten in the media. The


They won’t be able to ignore us if we are in amongst them next season.

Obviously much of English football is extremely myopic but Steve Clarke’s achievements have not gone unnoticed down south.

SirDavidsNapper
04-05-2018, 08:59 AM
First signing target is Martin Skrtl so it's basically the exact same as signing Bruno alves a year ago. End of the day his name and career means nothing as he's done absolutely zero as a manager

Senderos MK2

SirDavidsNapper
04-05-2018, 09:01 AM
There's more chance of Rangers finishing 3rd than 1st for the considerable future.

cocteautwin
04-05-2018, 09:12 AM
If this is true then he's been given some seriously bad career advice.

Hopefully it might mean Lennon is even more pumped up next year, giving it tight once again to a financially doped Rangers.

Hibs for second place next year (again).

Billy Whizz
04-05-2018, 09:16 AM
As I’ve said not worried about Gerrard, more worried if he’s being given a war chest, that could impact on our progress
Question is, where is the war chest coming from?

Scottie
04-05-2018, 09:16 AM
If anyone gets the chance to listen to 'Talksport' now have a listen.

Jim White wetting himself with the prospect of 'Rangers glorious return to where they belong winning Championships' :giruy2:

Hibs4185
04-05-2018, 09:27 AM
One positive is that it will raise the profile of our game down south and if we don’t get a better TV deal then there is something wrong. Lennon, Rodgers, Clarke and now Gerard, all well known faces down south and abroad, so if the powers that be can’t sell that to the TV executives then they shouldn’t be in power.

I pray everyday for rangers demise and this ‘new investor’ isn’t going to plough in £20-£30 million. They could buy the club for half of that. If there is a new investor I’d imagine king would be away.

Whoever is the decision maker at the takeover panel must look at today’s events and wonder how King can’t get £11 million out of South Africa and was pleading poverty, but can now sign a marquee manager on big money and promise a substantial war chest. No wonder he is a convicted criminal

TonyStokeprano
04-05-2018, 09:51 AM
I didnt say he would be bothered did I? his family might though.

are his family bothered when liverpool fans sing about munich ? prob not. every club has some distateful songs, the huns just have a bigger hymnbook.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 09:54 AM
are his family bothered when liverpool fans sing about munich ? prob not. every club has some distateful songs, the huns just have a bigger hymnbook.

I do not know are they? and you make my point with your last part. Are you seriously comparing the Liverpool songs of a distasteful nature to the amount of utter drivel that is sung at Sevco? It is night and day a very high percentage of there pish involves nothing to do with what is occuring on the park.

I do not know if what Liverpool sing about Munich is only V Man Utd what I do know is it is week in week out of secterian bile regardless the opponent.

blackpoolhibs
04-05-2018, 09:55 AM
As I’ve said not worried about Gerrard, more worried if he’s being given a war chest, that could impact on our progress
Question is, where is the war chest coming from?

It will be the usual smoke and mirrors Billy, they will offload Alves and other loans. Then use that money to bring in over the hill players Gerrard knows, then fill the rest with kids from academies down south.

If they had a genuine investor who was going to pump money in, especially the kind of money they are implying, we'd have heard through the usual means who it was.

They are the kings of waffle, it is season ticket sales time, and up to now they are trading at big loses which have needed loan after loan to get them through the seasons.

They have a much bigger budget than any of the rest of us, perhaps Gerard thinks he can do better with what they already have, and lets be honest, they should be doing better if managed better.

I'm not wetting my panties yet. :greengrin

Since90+2
04-05-2018, 09:56 AM
Gerrard won't be going there without an assurance of substantial funds. Making sure Rangers finish 4th and have to start there campaign in June is vital as they will undoubtedly be much stronger next year.

Mikey
04-05-2018, 10:10 AM
Announcement at 3pm today according the BBC Sport.

Presumably that means he'll be in the dugout a week on Sunday.

jacomo
04-05-2018, 10:18 AM
Gerrard won't be going there without an assurance of substantial funds. Making sure Rangers finish 4th and have to start there campaign in June is vital as they will undoubtedly be much stronger next year.


Yes, Dave King is extremely trustworthy and as good as his word.

If he has promised Gerrard substantial funds then no reason to doubt him!

The over investment is here!!

Onion
04-05-2018, 10:22 AM
Destined to end in tears. Far too nice a person for such a nasty bigoted club. Their fans, sectarian hatred and intolerance will destroy him. Timing also smacks of panic signing to appease the baying crowds following latest Celtic hammering and failure to secure 2nd place. King and Sevco Board throwing meat to the animals.

Oscar T Grouch
04-05-2018, 10:25 AM
Gerard’s ‘war chest’ will be the huns ST money. They have no other income stream. As others have asserted ‘investors’ tend to want something for their cash, The glib and shameless liar may well move on and a new owner arrive but that doesn’t change the fact that the club is a basket case, is in debt they cannot repay, needs to invest more than their turnover in the squad to get close to Celtc and that doesn’t include the price of the new management team. The huns soap opera isn’t about to stop, it’s about to get really juicy.

B.H.F.C
04-05-2018, 10:29 AM
Announcement at 3pm today according the BBC Sport.

Presumably that means he'll be in the dugout a week on Sunday.

I saw it reported that he won’t be taking up the job until 1st of June.

Famous Fiver
04-05-2018, 10:30 AM
It will be nice to see Mr Gerrard in the away dug out at Easter Road a week on Sunday.

I am sure he will receive a warm welcome and will be able to see the talent at his disposal.

He doesn't have much time before the first Euro Qualifying round on 28th June (as long as Motherwell don't win the cup) to put together a side capable of taking on the waiters/taxi drivers/ students who usually give them a doing.

Pass the popcorn.

Hibs Class
04-05-2018, 10:31 AM
Could be a good appointment - he has got experience of preventing Brendan Rodgers winning the league title

Scouse Hibee
04-05-2018, 10:33 AM
On yer go Stevie lad, enjoy yer first gig with the teddy bears.






Hope you get well and truly shafted and your reign ends in disaster.
YNWA......I think you will now.

Hibernian Verse
04-05-2018, 10:43 AM
On yer go Stevie lad, enjoy yer first gig with the teddy bears.






Hope you get well and truly shafted and your reign ends in disaster.
YNWA......I think you will now.

The comment Hibs.net has been waiting for :greengrin:aok:

Since90+2
04-05-2018, 10:53 AM
Yes, Dave King is extremely trustworthy and as good as his word.

If he has promised Gerrard substantial funds then no reason to doubt him!

The over investment is here!!

Perhaps , but I'd assume Gerrard has very wise advisors and will have taken steps to guarantee certain funds are available. I just can't see Gerrard and his people being taken for a fool by someone like Dave King, hope I'm wrong though.

cabbageandribs1875
04-05-2018, 10:58 AM
a dirty little diving cheat joining a dirty cheating vile filthy club....great match :aok:

Jim44
04-05-2018, 11:06 AM
Gerard’s ‘war chest’ will be the huns ST money. They have no other income stream. As others have asserted ‘investors’ tend to want something for their cash, The glib and shameless liar may well move on and a new owner arrive but that doesn’t change the fact that the club is a basket case, is in debt they cannot repay, needs to invest more than their turnover in the squad to get close to Celtc and that doesn’t include the price of the new management team. The huns soap opera isn’t about to stop, it’s about to get really juicy.

I don’t think the Lying King will be going anywhere and I’ve no idea where Gerrard’s war chest is coming from. However, the muppets on FF are hailing him for his latest coup having only recently condemned him for the Warburton, Caixinha, Murty pantomime. They’ve got the league won, next season, they’ve got the squad filled with experienced players and they’re discussing which of the younger Liverpool fringe players will get the honour of a Sevconian call-up. Somewhere along the way, I think there might be a few disappointments.

Deansy
04-05-2018, 11:08 AM
Nobody wants rangers to fail more than me so don’t take this the wrong way but i wonder if that happens if it could almost have a positive effect on our game.

Gerrard being appointed will raise the profile and interest in our league, there’s no two ways about that, if Rangers and Celtic then manage to get a proper title race on the go (being realistic that’s never likely to happen from hibs, aberdeen & co) I wonder if we might actually start to get some proper investment in our league, especially as sky seem to be losing rights for all other leagues.

With proper investment it may just give the rest of us a chance of closing the gap again given how long we’ve got used to making do with the scraps.

My preference would be for rangers to cease to exist again but trying to find a positive to that story.

Any new/extra cash in our game will end up in the usual way - the vast majority of it will go to the 'Old ****' to ensure the status quo prevails !

Rumble de Thump
04-05-2018, 11:09 AM
If The Rangers had any dosh they would be hiring a decent manager. The fact that The Rangers are run in such an amateurish way means they can't even attract managers from the likes of Aberdeen or Kilmarnock.

Sir David Gray
04-05-2018, 11:11 AM
We need a song for the 13th.

We need a song to the same tune as Liverpool's "Steve Gerrard, Gerrard" song.

Any takers?

blackpoolhibs
04-05-2018, 11:14 AM
If The Rangers had any dosh they would be hiring a decent manager. The fact that The Rangers are run in such an amateurish way means they can't even attract managers from the likes of Aberdeen or Kilmarnock.

Exactly, they interviewed McInness and would have told him how much they had to invest, and he laughed at them.

Unless there IS a new investor, which lets be honest is doubtful, Gerrard will not have anything more than the season tickets, the sale of players and the money they currently spend on loans who will go back to their parent clubs.

cabbageandribs1875
04-05-2018, 11:23 AM
We need a song to the same tune as Liverpool's "Steve Gerrard, Gerrard" song.

Any takers?



steve gerrard gerrard
he slips on his ******* ar*e



i'l leave it to our songwriters to come up with something inventive for his managerial career :)




maybe a reference to him always falling on his erky, mostly when he was in the opposition box, coincidently

Swedish hibee
04-05-2018, 11:38 AM
Right time for the bigwigs to get the tv rights for the wee cup & league to be improved. The english media are wetting themselves to see his games. Infact it's been on Swedish tv and we very rarely talk of Scottish football on tv! Make them all pay some decent money for once.

Leith's finest
04-05-2018, 11:41 AM
https://youtu.be/7Ec5oL_yqKg
Have you ever seen Gerrard win a league1

Northernhibee
04-05-2018, 11:44 AM
Jog on
Jog on
He fell flat on his arse
And he's never won the league
No he's never won the league

Northernhibee
04-05-2018, 11:46 AM
Oh big Stevie G
Oh big Stevie G
Could have won the cup
But he slipped up
Oh big Stevie G

660
04-05-2018, 11:46 AM
Steve Gerrard Gerrard
He is bad
He doesn’t have Celtic on the run

cabbageandribs1875
04-05-2018, 11:54 AM
wonder what his first coaching tips will be on the training ground


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ggQU4Ni9EpU/hqdefault.jpg

Deansy
04-05-2018, 11:57 AM
Exactly, they interviewed McInness and would have told him how much they had to invest, and he laughed at them.

Unless there IS a new investor, which lets be honest is doubtful, Gerrard will not have anything more than the season tickets, the sale of players and the money they currently spend on loans who will go back to their parent clubs.

What worries me slightly is, we all know that King is dodgy and it follows he has dodgy mates, dodgy mates with plenty of cash they'd like 'cleaned' and the Hun are the ideal laundry !.

Johnny_Leith
04-05-2018, 12:02 PM
No matter who is taking over I'd imagine rangers won't be anywhere near as big a basket case as they were this season.

Hopefully ourselves and Aberdeen can punt them down to 4th and damage them for next season too.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 12:03 PM
I have every confidence no matter what the Sevco budget is Neil and our board will sign quality to continue on. Sevco are not interested in 2nd they will overreach and will likely be forced into higher wages for maybe not the best quality.

They have a hell of a job to do at Sevco and cannot afford any dodgy big money flops. I am confident they will not manage it.

They will not finish 1st or 2nd next season either.

eastcoasthibby
04-05-2018, 12:13 PM
They will last 3-4 years as that will be as long as they can hide all of their dodgy dealings that they will need to pay the wages demanded by the players they bring in ....they will over stretch their budget massively to try and buy success...watch with interest ....

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 12:13 PM
Paddy Power tweet:

"
Steven Gerrard will sign a thee year deal with Rangers, which is expected to take Celtic up to ten league titles in a row"

SirDavidsNapper
04-05-2018, 12:19 PM
I think its brilliant. Its a win win

Brings great publicly to the Scottish game and also insures Rangers wont progress much further if at all. Best appointment all round.

IGRIGI
04-05-2018, 12:23 PM
I'd love it if with all the expectation from England that he comes up here and challenges Celtic they end up 4th (again) behind us and Aberdeen next season.

Dalianwanda
04-05-2018, 12:26 PM
Is there not a wee bit of contradiction on this FF post? :greengrin

"The respect and reverence we have down here is a real breath of fresh air.

I've had good friends I've made down here sending me upbeat messages about our capture/gamble on Gerrard. Just because they are football fans with no agenda.

So different from the Taig loving **** north of the border..

Dare I say I'm getting excited about this appointment now..:dance:"

WhileTheChief..
04-05-2018, 12:28 PM
I think its brilliant. Its a win win

Brings great publicly to the Scottish game and also insures Rangers wont progress much further if at all. Best appointment all round.

Yup agreed.

We also get to look forward to the day he leaves.

He either goes on to manage a proper big club thus annoying the Rangers fans or he’s sacked.

Another win win for the rest of us.

jacomo
04-05-2018, 12:28 PM
It will be nice to see Mr Gerrard in the away dug out at Easter Road a week on Sunday.

I am sure he will receive a warm welcome and will be able to see the talent at his disposal.

He doesn't have much time before the first Euro Qualifying round on 28th June (as long as Motherwell don't win the cup) to put together a side capable of taking on the waiters/taxi drivers/ students who usually give them a doing.

Pass the popcorn.


He won’t start the job til June.

jacomo
04-05-2018, 12:30 PM
Perhaps , but I'd assume Gerrard has very wise advisors and will have taken steps to guarantee certain funds are available. I just can't see Gerrard and his people being taken for a fool by someone like Dave King, hope I'm wrong though.


How can he guarantee funds are available?

Ask for it cash, in an actual war chest and Gerrard has the only key?

These things are done on trust. If gerrard trusts King he is a fool.

Iain G
04-05-2018, 12:35 PM
He won’t start the job til June.

And will be gone by Christmas :agree::greengrin

Keith_M
04-05-2018, 12:36 PM
A big name, no experience gamble purely to placate the Fans as Season Ticket time has arrived.


What he might be able to bring to the role is a connection to the Liverpool Youth Academy, but I'm not exactly quaking in my boots.


I personally think it'll achieve the most important aim, getting the Fans to splash out on Season Tickets, but it'll all end in tears.

Ozyhibby
04-05-2018, 12:36 PM
Paddy Power tweet:

"
Steven Gerrard will sign a thee year deal with Rangers, which is expected to take Celtic up to ten league titles in a row"

He’ll be lucky if he’s still here to see them lift 8 in a row.


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Oscar T Grouch
04-05-2018, 12:39 PM
How can he guarantee funds are available?

Ask for it cash, in an actual war chest and Gerrard has the only key?

These things are done on trust. If gerrard trusts King he is a fool.


This will be an issue, SGs been promised x, what he is actually given is x-loads, result? Resignation, I was lied to, I was told I would be able to spend x but when it came down to it the figure I was actually given is way less than x, if I cannot trust the board there is no point in moving forward in this post. Well in my dreams anyway. :greengrin


Personally I think with the right backing SG will be a good manager, he, if rumours are to be believed, has made a bad choice of clubs for his first managers role.

FilipinoHibs
04-05-2018, 12:43 PM
What worries me slightly is, we all know that King is dodgy and it follows he has dodgy mates, dodgy mates with plenty of cash they'd like 'cleaned' and the Hun are the ideal laundry !.

dodgy cash needsg flushed through the system with only the crumbs lost to some dowdy business.

Barney McGrew
04-05-2018, 12:48 PM
I wonder if any of the journalists at the unveiling press conference will have the bottle to ask him how it feels to be The Rangers third choice for the vacancy?

SHODAN
04-05-2018, 12:56 PM
Is he taking charge start of next season or straight away?

jacomo
04-05-2018, 01:07 PM
Is he taking charge start of next season or straight away?


June.

JeMeSouviens
04-05-2018, 01:10 PM
To be fair, the Huns are predictably all #goingfor55 again, so King's short term "operation sell season tickets" plan will work a treat.

It will be magic when it all ends in tears again. :aok:

Scottie
04-05-2018, 01:10 PM
4 year deal confirmed on Sky sports news. taking over in the summer. :faf::faf:

green day
04-05-2018, 01:12 PM
4 years........hes not as daft as King.

Trust he has the severance deal clarified.

1875M
04-05-2018, 01:12 PM
An interesting appointment. Must have been offered assurances otherwise no chance he wouldn’t taken it. Great for the Scottish game imo, but I just don’t see how he can close the gap on Celtic, it’s going to take a lot more than a new manager for them to do that.

RossScott1991
04-05-2018, 01:14 PM
4 year deal that’s a belter they are going to have to pay off in a years time

Steven79
04-05-2018, 01:15 PM
4 year deal confirmed on Sky sports news. taking over in the summer. :faf::faf:

The banter years just got another chapter! :cb

givescotlandfreedom
04-05-2018, 01:17 PM
This will be sevco's John Barnes IMO. Popcorn is waiting in the microwave.

CropleyWasGod
04-05-2018, 01:17 PM
What worries me slightly is, we all know that King is dodgy and it follows he has dodgy mates, dodgy mates with plenty of cash they'd like 'cleaned' and the Hun are the ideal laundry !.

Where have they been up until now?:greengrin

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 01:18 PM
An interesting appointment. Must have been offered assurances otherwise no chance he wouldn’t taken it. Great for the Scottish game imo, but I just don’t see how he can close the gap on Celtic, it’s going to take a lot more than a new manager for them to do that.

The first assurance he will make is making sure he gets the correct pay out when sacked.

neil7908
04-05-2018, 01:21 PM
4 year deal that’s a belter they are going to have to pay off in a years time

Yeah that was my first first thought. It's a crazy appointment but 4 years for a guy who's never managed before is utterly hilarious and just goes to show what a mess they are in!

Looper
04-05-2018, 01:25 PM
The Rangers board must be very desperate to sign him up if he's been given 4 years. Does he begin his job next season or will he be the manager for the game against us?

The_Horde
04-05-2018, 01:27 PM
This will end in tears. A board and manager have to be on the same page and the chances of that happening at Sevco are slim to none. They'll probably see an initial improvement on the pitch, but you can guarantee it won't end so sweetly.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 01:29 PM
The Rangers board must be very desperate to sign him up if he's been given 4 years. Does he begin his job next season or will he be the manager for the game against us?

He starts from next season trying to improve on 4th.

Rumble de Thump
04-05-2018, 01:36 PM
Gerrard: "I have enormous respect for this football club, and its history and tradition." I'll have some of whatever he's been smoking.

If he doesn't win the league in the next couple of years it won't matter what kind of severance deal is in the contract, as King will just tell the Daily Record that Gerrard has resigned and that will be that.

JeMeSouviens
04-05-2018, 01:39 PM
If they really had "massive investment" coming they'd have been able to attract a proper manager.

Iain G
04-05-2018, 01:41 PM
He starts from next season trying to improve on 4th.

It would be better and easier for him next year if that was the case, if they finish second then the hoardes will be clamouring for the league title, finishing 3rd or 4th gives them something to aim for to show improvement and increase season ticket sales...

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 01:42 PM
Gerrard: "I have enormous respect for this football club, and its history and tradition." I'll have some of whatever he's been smoking.

If he doesn't win the league in the next couple of years it won't matter what kind of severance deal is in the contract, as King will just tell the Daily Record that Gerrard has resigned and that will be that.




The Petrofac and some lower league titles. Fantastic.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 01:45 PM
It would be better and easier for him next year if that was the case, if they finish second then the hoardes will be clamouring for the league title, finishing 3rd or 4th gives them something to aim for to show improvement and increase season ticket sales...

Let me assure you they already are clamoring for that next season. This is why it will not go well. Have a look at the delusion on FF or any other Sevco forum some I have spoken to even were talking about it for this term.

Springbank
04-05-2018, 01:48 PM
The Petrofac and some lower league titles. Fantastic.

Not forgetting runners up medals in The Scottish Cup
an ignominious European bow against Progres
a manager ranting at his own fans while standing in a bush
one magic hat
two suspended senior pros
3-2 defeats to Hibs at no fewer than three different venues
four nil at Easter Road
five nil to hand the title to their city rivals
six managers already
more club statements than is healthy
and more court appearances than trophies

blackpoolhibs
04-05-2018, 01:48 PM
Ya Ya Toure released by Man City, probably be his first signing. :wink:

johnbc70
04-05-2018, 01:49 PM
I can see the headlines in February 2019. 'Gerrard says he was mislead about the size of the problems inside Ibrox'

Rumble de Thump
04-05-2018, 01:51 PM
Stevie Gerrard's management experience and knowledge of Scottish football is off the radar.

worcesterhibby
04-05-2018, 01:54 PM
nobody becomes a good manager on day 1 in the job and as far as I'm concerned you can run youth set ups and u21's all you like, nothing prepares you for the pressure of a full management job in a big league other than proper managerial experience.

I am struggling to think of a single case of a top British player starting out his managerial career with a big club in turmoil that has ended well.

Shearer at Newcastle - relegated, sacked

Zola at West Ham - came 17th..sacked

Stuart Pearce Man City - Came 15th in first full season, but lost 9 of last 10 games and got knocked out of the cup by Doncaster. 2nd full season sacked after narrowly missing relegation and being knocked out of the cup by Chesterfield.

Tony Adams Portsmouth - sacked after 16 games

John Barnes Celtic: Supercaleyarefantasticcelticareatrocious...need I say more...sacked

( incidentally Barnes got back into management at Tranmere in 2009 and had chippy scouser Jason Macateer as his assistant. They managed just 3 wins in their first 14 games and things really fell apart when it was reported in the press that the players referred to them as "Dumb & Dumber" ! Sacked.

I actually can't think of a single time a big name player has taken over a BIG club who is in trouble and turned it around...please let me know if you can.

jacomo
04-05-2018, 01:55 PM
I can see the headlines in February 2019. 'Gerrard says he was mislead about the size of the problems inside Ibrox'


:agree:

Paddy Power will be running a book on the exact date of departure no doubt.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 02:00 PM
What is this 55 pish? 55 months and still going? 55pts target? 55 different mangers in a short space of time? It surely cannot be leagues can it? They have not even reached 1 as yet unless they count all the lower league titles then its 3 going for 4.

Bam
04-05-2018, 02:01 PM
Not forgetting runners up medals in The Scottish Cup
an ignominious European bow against Progres
a manager ranting at his own fans while standing in a bush
one magic hat
two suspended senior pros
3-2 defeats to Hibs at no fewer than three different venues
four nil at Easter Road
five nil to hand the title to their city rivals
six managers already
more club statements than is healthy
and more court appearances than trophies

And a partridge in a pear tree!

Smartie
04-05-2018, 02:01 PM
November 2018 "Gerrard: I was lied to by King over Rangers finances".

Gerrard sacked as Sevco go into meltdown after back to back defeats following a promising start to the season.

Smartie
04-05-2018, 02:02 PM
What is this 55 pish? 55 months and still going? 55pts target? 55 different mangers in a short space of time? It surely cannot be leagues can it? They have not even reached 1 as yet unless they count all the lower league titles then its 3 going for 4.

It's a bit like all that Luciferian stuff only more evil.

Elephant Stone
04-05-2018, 02:02 PM
nobody becomes a good manager on day 1 in the job and as far as I'm concerned you can run youth set ups and u21's all you like, nothing prepares you for the pressure of a full management job in a big league other than proper managerial experience.

I am struggling to think of a single case of a top British player starting out his managerial career with a big club in turmoil that has ended well.

Shearer at Newcastle - relegated, sacked

Zola at West Ham - came 17th..sacked

Stuart Pearce Man City - Came 15th in first full season, but lost 9 of last 10 games and got knocked out of the cup by Doncaster. 2nd full season sacked after narrowly missing relegation and being knocked out of the cup by Chesterfield.

Tony Adams Portsmouth - sacked after 16 games

John Barnes Celtic: Supercaleyarefantasticcelticareatrocious...need I say more...sacked

( incidentally Barnes got back into management at Tranmere in 2009 and had chippy scouser Jason Macateer as his assistant. They managed just 3 wins in their first 14 games and things really fell apart when it was reported in the press that the players referred to them as "Dumb & Dumber" ! Sacked.

I actually can't think of a single time a big name player has taken over a BIG club who is in trouble and turned it around...please let me know if you can.

Don't think it matters how much of a big name the manager is, it's not gonna be any more difficult cause of his name. Stubbs' job wasn't any easier than Gerrard's will be and he couldn't really have done a better job, so it can work. Reckon Gerrard will be gone soon here though, just can't see it working.

JeMeSouviens
04-05-2018, 02:07 PM
Don't think it matters how much of a big name the manager is, it's not gonna be any more difficult cause of his name. Stubbs' job wasn't any easier than Gerrard's will be and he couldn't really have done a better job, so it can work. Reckon Gerrard will be gone soon here though, just can't see it working.

Stubbs was given a season trailing in 3rd behind Hearts & Sevco. We were patient because we saw the size of rebuild he needed to do and that he was making progress. Sevconians would've hounded him out well before season's end.

The Sundance Kid
04-05-2018, 02:09 PM
Stubbs was given a season trailing in 3rd behind Hearts & Sevco. We were patient because we saw the size of rebuild he needed to do and that he was making progress. Sevconians would've hounded him out well before season's end.

Worth remembering that we finished 2nd above The Rangers that season

Scorrie
04-05-2018, 02:11 PM
Gerrard: "I have enormous respect for this football club, and its history and tradition." I'll have some of whatever he's been smoking.

If he doesn't win the league in the next couple of years it won't matter what kind of severance deal is in the contract, as King will just tell the Daily Record that Gerrard has resigned and that will be that.




Aye all 6 years of history

Smartie
04-05-2018, 02:11 PM
Worth remembering that we finished 2nd above The Rangers that season

Which is quite impressive given where we were at the start of October.

Elephant Stone
04-05-2018, 02:13 PM
Stubbs was given a season trailing in 3rd behind Hearts & Sevco. We were patient because we saw the size of rebuild he needed to do and that he was making progress. Sevconians would've hounded him out well before season's end.

If Gerrard improves them as much as Stubbs improved us they'll be more than happy with that, they're gonna have to wait a while to challenge Celtic.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 02:14 PM
Stubbs was given a season trailing in 3rd behind Hearts & Sevco. We were patient because we saw the size of rebuild he needed to do and that he was making progress. Sevconians would've hounded him out well before season's end.

That is they key. Sevco fans a sizeable amount think they are winning it next season and if it does not happen they will not be happy.

SirDavidsNapper
04-05-2018, 02:16 PM
http://content.invisioncic.com/Mrangmedia/monthly_2018_05/1AA245E7-C508-4A51-B4A8-AB2C17721057.thumb.jpeg.ec2f6bab19f91a786f94c445bf 28b572.jpeg


They must all finish early on a Friday in Glasgow

SirDavidsNapper
04-05-2018, 02:20 PM
What is this 55 pish? 55 months and still going? 55pts target? 55 different mangers in a short space of time? It surely cannot be leagues can it? They have not even reached 1 as yet unless they count all the lower league titles then its 3 going for 4.

55 attempts at winning the challenge cup?

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 02:23 PM
55 attempts at winning the challenge cup?

55 non football songs per game?

Jim44
04-05-2018, 02:35 PM
I wonder if he will be a commuter manager or whether he will bring his family up to Scotland. If it’s the latter, I think he should look for a house well away from the religious bigotry divide. It would be a shame if they were stuck on the wrong side of the wagons.

HoboHarry
04-05-2018, 02:36 PM
http://content.invisioncic.com/Mrangmedia/monthly_2018_05/1AA245E7-C508-4A51-B4A8-AB2C17721057.thumb.jpeg.ec2f6bab19f91a786f94c445bf 28b572.jpeg


They must all finish early on a Friday in Glasgow
They all sign on on a Tuesday ya daft b*****d........

Elephant Stone
04-05-2018, 02:41 PM
Spoke well at that press conference

proud_and_green
04-05-2018, 02:42 PM
Exactly, they interviewed McInness and would have told him how much they had to invest, and he laughed at them.

Unless there IS a new investor, which lets be honest is doubtful, Gerrard will not have anything more than the season tickets, the sale of players and the money they currently spend on loans who will go back to their parent clubs.But if there was a large investor then SG would not have been appointed, they would have had a seasoned manager in - and I don't mean mcinnes.

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Scouse Hibee
04-05-2018, 02:47 PM
nobody becomes a good manager on day 1 in the job and as far as I'm concerned you can run youth set ups and u21's all you like, nothing prepares you for the pressure of a full management job in a big league other than proper managerial experience.

I am struggling to think of a single case of a top British player starting out his managerial career with a big club in turmoil that has ended well.

Shearer at Newcastle - relegated, sacked

Zola at West Ham - came 17th..sacked

Stuart Pearce Man City - Came 15th in first full season, but lost 9 of last 10 games and got knocked out of the cup by Doncaster. 2nd full season sacked after narrowly missing relegation and being knocked out of the cup by Chesterfield.

Tony Adams Portsmouth - sacked after 16 games

John Barnes Celtic: Supercaleyarefantasticcelticareatrocious...need I say more...sacked

( incidentally Barnes got back into management at Tranmere in 2009 and had chippy scouser Jason Macateer as his assistant. They managed just 3 wins in their first 14 games and things really fell apart when it was reported in the press that the players referred to them as "Dumb & Dumber" ! Sacked.

I actually can't think of a single time a big name player has taken over a BIG club who is in trouble and turned it around...please let me know if you can.

Kenny Dalglish player manager first time round at Lverpool 😉

bod
04-05-2018, 02:56 PM
I’m sure I saw tam McManus tweet that he heard about Gerrard last week & an overseas investor with 24 million going in

where'stheslope
04-05-2018, 02:58 PM
Message to Gerrard:
Take the job. 4 years wages for a 6 month stint. Money for old rope. Plus 3.5 years garden leave.
Signed
Super Ally!!!!

Barney McGrew
04-05-2018, 02:58 PM
I’m sure I saw tam McManus tweet that he heard about Gerrard last week & an overseas investor with 24 million going in

Even if there is, £24m won’t even touch the sides of what they need to spend to get anywhere close to challenging Celtc.

makaveli1875
04-05-2018, 03:00 PM
I’m sure I saw tam McManus tweet that he heard about Gerrard last week & an overseas investor with 24 million going in

Surely an investor would be hesitant at firing 20 odd million at a Rookie manager no matter how big the name

JimBHibees
04-05-2018, 03:02 PM
nobody becomes a good manager on day 1 in the job and as far as I'm concerned you can run youth set ups and u21's all you like, nothing prepares you for the pressure of a full management job in a big league other than proper managerial experience.

I am struggling to think of a single case of a top British player starting out his managerial career with a big club in turmoil that has ended well.

Shearer at Newcastle - relegated, sacked

Zola at West Ham - came 17th..sacked

Stuart Pearce Man City - Came 15th in first full season, but lost 9 of last 10 games and got knocked out of the cup by Doncaster. 2nd full season sacked after narrowly missing relegation and being knocked out of the cup by Chesterfield.

Tony Adams Portsmouth - sacked after 16 games

John Barnes Celtic: Supercaleyarefantasticcelticareatrocious...need I say more...sacked

( incidentally Barnes got back into management at Tranmere in 2009 and had chippy scouser Jason Macateer as his assistant. They managed just 3 wins in their first 14 games and things really fell apart when it was reported in the press that the players referred to them as "Dumb & Dumber" ! Sacked.

I actually can't think of a single time a big name player has taken over a BIG club who is in trouble and turned it around...please let me know if you can.

:faf:

Thought Gerrard spoke very well. Neil Lennon did pretty well as a manager did he not when taking the Celtic job.

Down to the personality and also who he has as assistant. McAllister is a smart appointment given he will trust him and no doubt get on well. Thought Gerrard came over very well and spoke clearly and passionately. Think he could do well and a great opportunity for him and he is clearly ambitious.

Captain Trips
04-05-2018, 03:04 PM
I’m sure I saw tam McManus tweet that he heard about Gerrard last week & an overseas investor with 24 million going in

If it is £24m then it must be a gift as it cannot be an investment. You will not see that 24m without at the very least a league title right away and a CL group spot. I really hope they are chucking stuff at this we could see a Leeds here.

B.H.F.C
04-05-2018, 03:05 PM
Even if there is, £24m won’t even touch the sides of what they need to spend to get anywhere close to challenging Celtc.

I actually disagree, although it would depend on what Celtic did in the summer as well.

The gap, certainly when they play each other appears huge, but Celtic only wrapped up the league with a few games to go. Those kind of figures would give them a fighting chance but it’s hard to see that level of investment actually happening.

I suppose it could be argued that Celtic have been a bit complacent this year and a stronger Rangers might wake them up again.

worcesterhibby
04-05-2018, 03:06 PM
Kenny Dalglish player manager first time round at Lverpool 😉

Read the question... "I actually can't think of a single time a big name player has taken over a BIG club WHO IS IN TROUBLE and turned it around."

Liverpool had won the League, League Cup and European Cup in 83/84 and reached the european Cup final again in 85. Dalglish had a tremendous squad full of experienced players who had won at the very highest level. Yes he had the aftermath of Heysel to cope with, but when he became player manager they were hardly a "Big Club in Trouble"

SonOfDavidFrancey
04-05-2018, 03:07 PM
I liked the comment on BBC website: good to see a manager willing to start at the bottom at a time when big names seem to want a big job straight away...

johnbc70
04-05-2018, 03:11 PM
I actually disagree, although it would depend on what Celtic did in the summer as well.

The gap, certainly when they play each other appears huge, but Celtic only wrapped up the league with a few games to go. Those kind of figures would give them a fighting chance but it’s hard to see that level of investment actually happening.

I suppose it could be argued that Celtic have been a bit complacent this year and a stronger Rangers might wake them up again.

I think Celtic will be watching what happens next. They are not short of a few quid themselves and if it looks like Rangers are going to spend big they will up their game.

Barney McGrew
04-05-2018, 03:14 PM
I actually disagree, although it would depend on what Celtic did in the summer as well.

The gap, certainly when they play each other appears huge, but Celtic only wrapped up the league with a few games to go. Those kind of figures would give them a fighting chance but it’s hard to see that level of investment actually happening.

I suppose it could be argued that Celtic have been a bit complacent this year and a stronger Rangers might wake them up again.

Rangers lost £16.7m last financial year. They’d need to pump in a lot more to be competitive, so it would mean running up even more debt to do it.

Theyll also be paying Gerrard and MacAllister a good bit more than the previous diddies they’ve had in charge, so that will even more cash out the door.

Stonewall
04-05-2018, 03:17 PM
I’m sure I saw tam McManus tweet that he heard about Gerrard last week & an overseas investor with 24 million going in

Just have to hope the other directors don't want their loans repaid then.

Swedish hibee
04-05-2018, 03:19 PM
I actually can't think of a single time a big name player has taken over a BIG club who is in trouble and turned it around...please let me know if you can.

Stubbs? If you had told me when relagated that he would win us the cup in 2 years- I'd never have believed.

Colr
04-05-2018, 03:20 PM
If it is £24m then it must be a gift as it cannot be an investment. You will not see that 24m without at the very least a league title right away and a CL group spot. I really hope they are chucking stuff at this we could see a Leeds here.

Rangers will attractive to investors. They can loan money into the club and extract interest at a reasonable rate. They will have calculated that, no matter how nad the team is doing, enough people keep buying tickets and jerseys to make sure that they always get their interest payment.

Smartie
04-05-2018, 03:26 PM
Rangers will attractive to investors. They can loan money into the club and extract interest at a reasonable rate. They will have calculated that, no matter how nad the team is doing, enough people keep buying tickets and jerseys to make sure that they always get their interest payment.

They might get a wee bit of interest for a while but will they ever get their investment back?

Rangers are a money pit and you'd need to be mental to give them money.

They've now run out of rich, stupid huns who are prepared to throw their money into the pit.

There have been umpteen opportunities to "invest" in Rangers over the past few years that could see you pick up a sizeable chunk of the club if not the entire club itself for a relatively modest outlay but the fact is it would be challenging to ever get to see that money again after enduring a few years' worth of solid abuse.

I'm not exactly sure why they now represent an investment opportunity.

Moulin Yarns
04-05-2018, 03:28 PM
Something I don't understand, Murty has more experience than Gerrard in both youth coaching and first team management. Why are the media and the people getting so excited?

silverhibee
04-05-2018, 03:28 PM
What worries me slightly is, we all know that King is dodgy and it follows he has dodgy mates, dodgy mates with plenty of cash they'd like 'cleaned' and the Hun are the ideal laundry !.

Mr Gerrard has some family members that would be happy to put there dodgy money through thr Hun laundry.

Billy Whizz
04-05-2018, 03:34 PM
So who’s out of contract/on loan at Rangers and likely to get punted?