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DavidDavidGray
27-08-2017, 11:07 AM
Sky Sports and Kris Boyd saying Forest have had a bid rejected for McGinn, anyone heard anything about this? I don't see him leaving this window unless Henderson comes in and even then I don't think he'll leave.

Callum_62
27-08-2017, 11:07 AM
Boyd expects him to go

Wonder how much they talking about


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Agnes Gordon
27-08-2017, 11:08 AM
Almost done deal according to Boyd on Sky
FFS

Higgo
27-08-2017, 11:08 AM
I'm guessing this is why Henderson is potentially coming back.

nellio
27-08-2017, 11:09 AM
Just watched it. Would be a big money bid surely?? A good few million.

SRHibs
27-08-2017, 11:09 AM
Sounds like they got JC for a steal. Hope the same doesn't happen with J McGinn. Anything less than 3m would be hugely disappointing IMO.

SaulGoodman
27-08-2017, 11:09 AM
Almost done deal according to Boyd on Sky
FFS

The only thing I'd trust Boyd to tell me is how much 3 double cheeseburgers would cost me at McDonald's.

CallumLaidlaw
27-08-2017, 11:09 AM
Almost done deal according to Boyd on Sky
FFS

Not quite what he said. Says we've rejected a bid and expects them to come back with an improved offer.


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Onceinawhile
27-08-2017, 11:09 AM
Boyd expects him to go

Wonder how much they talking about


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Mentioned it on the match day thread.

Has to be enough for Henderson and 1 other big signing.

Wonder if it'll impact on contract talks with Lennon.

Just Jimmy
27-08-2017, 11:09 AM
better be serious money. by all accounts cummings was sold on the cheap (regardless of why). mcginn better be serious money or bolt.

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nellio
27-08-2017, 11:10 AM
If he goes ill be gutted. Must bring in quality. Henderson would be good.

hibee_girl
27-08-2017, 11:10 AM
Almost done deal according to Boyd on Sky
FFS

That's not what he said.

They've made a bid, we rejected it. Boyd expects them to come back with another bid and he said its likely it'll be McGinn's last game for Hibs.

How much Kris Boyd knows about Hibs transfer dealings I don't really know.

neil7908
27-08-2017, 11:10 AM
I would be very disappointed to see him go but the fact is every player has their price.

If we get 3m+ for him and then sign Hendo we'll be doing pretty well.

matty_f
27-08-2017, 11:11 AM
Would he a big mistake to sell McGinn this window. Really hope that we resist any bids and that McGinn's head isn't turned.

lord bunberry
27-08-2017, 11:12 AM
Would he a big mistake to sell McGinn this window. Really hope that we resist any bids and that McGinn's head isn't turned.

Agreed. We can't sell him this late in the window.

Agnes Gordon
27-08-2017, 11:12 AM
Not quite what he said. Says we've rejected a bid and expects them to come back with an improved offer.


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Boyd said he thinks today will be his final game for Hibs

hibee_girl
27-08-2017, 11:12 AM
Would he a big mistake to sell McGinn this window. Really hope that we resist any bids and that McGinn's head isn't turned.

He needs to block Cummings number until the window closes :greengrin

hulk
27-08-2017, 11:13 AM
We need to hold out for the right amount. We should be talking about 4 million min otherwise tell them to shove it

Iceman1875
27-08-2017, 11:13 AM
I would be very disappointed to see him go but the fact is every player has their price.

If we get 3m+ for him and then sign Hendo we'll be doing pretty well.

Agree with this 100%


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Agnes Gordon
27-08-2017, 11:13 AM
Maybe they see selling him and signing Henderson as acceptable?

chrisski33
27-08-2017, 11:14 AM
***** what boyd says! Jeez

Borderhibbie76
27-08-2017, 11:14 AM
Boyd said he thinks today will be his final game for HibsWould be helpful if you would stop repeating yourself ad nauseam....its fatty Boyd ffs

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Jim44
27-08-2017, 11:15 AM
If he goes it has to be for a huge fee and enough to bring in quality otherwise we will be undoing all the progress made in the last couple of months.

neil7908
27-08-2017, 11:16 AM
I was hoping for a nice quiet end to the transfer window with Commons in once he's fit the only thing on the horizon.

Going to be a nervous few days now.

snooky
27-08-2017, 11:17 AM
Boyd expects him to go

Wonder how much they talking about

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Quiz:
What team does Boyd support?
What team consistently uses the media to unsettle Hibs top players?
What position on Hibs board does Boyd currently occupy?
How many other sources are reporting this imminent transfer?

emerald green
27-08-2017, 11:18 AM
Why does this stuff always seem to appear just prior to a very important match for Hibs?

What does Boyd know about the dealings at Hibs or Nottingham Forest? Is it just gossip he's hearing and passing it on as fact? :dunno:

SanFranHibs
27-08-2017, 11:19 AM
If an acceptable bid was expected would he even be playing today, risking injury?

NORTHERNHIBBY
27-08-2017, 11:20 AM
Not wanting him to go but we are not a one man team. If he leaves then let's get it done soon so that we can get a replacement in.

hibee_girl
27-08-2017, 11:21 AM
If an acceptable bid was expected would he even be playing today, risking injury?

Why? We've rejected a bid, he's still our player. To not play him just in case a new bid comes in would be silly imo

Dazzling Doidge
27-08-2017, 11:21 AM
Losing McGinn would be a disaster. Selling Cummings was bad enough, this would be a total joke and destroy any feel good factor.

HibbiesandtheBaddies
27-08-2017, 11:22 AM
Kris Boyd is a bellend.

Speedy
27-08-2017, 11:22 AM
We should be looking for 5m+. We might not get it but transfers have gone nuts in England so not point selling ourselves short.

Agnes Gordon
27-08-2017, 11:23 AM
Would be helpful if you would stop repeating yourself ad nauseam....its fatty Boyd ffs

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Sorry, was replying to a reply to my original post didn't know that wasn't allowed 😐

Onceinawhile
27-08-2017, 11:23 AM
Losing McGinn would be a disaster. Selling Cummings was bad enough, this would be a total joke and destroy any feel good factor.

It would not be a total joke and would not destroy any feel good feeling.

Borderhibbie76
27-08-2017, 11:23 AM
Losing McGinn would be a disaster. Selling Cummings was bad enough, this would be a total joke and destroy any feel good factor.Way OTT mate take a chill pill...he hasn't gone anywhere yet and it's only Boyd reporting on in so far

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Dazzling Doidge
27-08-2017, 11:24 AM
It would not be a total joke and would not destroy any feel good feeling.

Certainly would for me.

WhileTheChief..
27-08-2017, 11:24 AM
Gotta pay for this new indoor facility at East Mains somehow!

Manxhibs
27-08-2017, 11:26 AM
International footballer who is only going to get better, surely we should be breaking the 4.4 mil we got for brown.

DavidDavidGray
27-08-2017, 11:27 AM
Certainly would for me.

Same

Delboy4
27-08-2017, 11:28 AM
Warbutton has probably phoned Boyd and told him to noise us up on the tele to unsettle the team.

Malthibby
27-08-2017, 11:29 AM
Time to take a chill pill; nothing but that Ranker erse making noises about a bid we know nowt about, Lennon just on the radio making it clear he's signing the extension tomorrow/Tuesday.
All is well.
GG

Simkin911
27-08-2017, 11:29 AM
3m would be ok and bring in another 1or 2 players. No big deal really. Players come & go. It's happened for as long as I've watched Hibs. Getting a good price / deal is key.

Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 11:31 AM
Lennon will probably be asked about it after the game and will most likely let us know the latest on it/if it's true.

Is It On....
27-08-2017, 11:32 AM
Stating the obvious but how much we got for Cummings and what we ultimately get for SJM (and the % that St Mirren get) is pure guesswork. Two years left on his contract so no need to sell. If he doesn't sign an extension, then we should be preparing to sell and replace next summer. GGTTH

SanFranHibs
27-08-2017, 11:33 AM
Why? We've rejected a bid, he's still our player. To not play him just in case a new bid comes in would be silly imo

I don't think you got my meaning. I am not sure the 'last game for Hibs' part is accurate and that an acceptable bid is 'expected' because if it is, or in other words, he is leaving, I doubt Hibs or the player would want to risk it.

Of course we should play him rather than protect him on the off chance that an acceptable bid is tendered.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 11:34 AM
**** off Hibs don't sell at this stage!!

HibbySpurs
27-08-2017, 11:58 AM
Same

Yes, me as well

Biggie
27-08-2017, 12:05 PM
Stating the obvious but how much we got for Cummings and what we ultimately get for SJM (and the % that St Mirren get) is pure guesswork. Two years left on his contract so no need to sell. If he doesn't sign an extension, then we should be preparing to sell and replace next summer. GGTTH

Someone on BBC said it was 30% !!!!!!... 30 ****ing percent !.....surely not

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 12:06 PM
Someone on BBC said it was 30% !!!!!!... 30 ****ing percent !.....surely notAnd Rod said it isn't.

Take your pick.

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DH1875
27-08-2017, 12:10 PM
And Rod said it isn't.

Take your pick.

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Ex chairman of St Mirren also said its 30% so who knows.

BBC also reporting we've knocked back a bid from Forrest.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 12:14 PM
Get Warburton to ****. Didn't Boyd play for forest too? 3m plus, will seriously duck our season if we sell.

Deansy
27-08-2017, 12:14 PM
Quiz:
What team does Boyd support?
What team consistently uses the media to unsettle Hibs top players?
What position on Hibs board does Boyd currently occupy?
How many other sources are reporting this imminent transfer?

Was about to say something similar - the majority of these 'pundits' are mainly OF, either played for them or just support them. The last thing any of them really want is a challenge/threat from outside of the OF. Like the GFA, they want the Status quo to stay the same forever and good/promising non-OF players represent a threat to their never-ending gravy-train !!

leggeto
27-08-2017, 12:17 PM
4 or 5 mill,that's what we should be holding out for

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 12:20 PM
Ex chairman of St Mirren also said its 30% so who knows.

BBC also reporting we've knocked back a bid from Forrest.That's where the BBC quote comes from. [emoji14]



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NORTHERNHIBBY
27-08-2017, 12:20 PM
Get Warburton to ****. Didn't Boyd play for forest too? 3m plus, will seriously duck our season if we sell.

Sure the same words were used about JC. If we sold him it made relegation a near certainty.

660
27-08-2017, 12:21 PM
3-2 Boyd you horrible Rangers ****

Andy74
27-08-2017, 12:21 PM
Losing McGinn would be a disaster. Selling Cummings was bad enough, this would be a total joke and destroy any feel good factor.

Or on the other hand selling Cummings has worked out just fine and so would selling McGinn if the cash was right.

He's not a long term Hibs player and his value is high just now. Slivka already a good replacement and the money could allow us to get in one or two other players for the long term.

Dnipro_Kids
27-08-2017, 12:24 PM
Is Kris Boyd a football journalist now?

Bob Box Fish
27-08-2017, 12:27 PM
If Forrest paid 0.5m for McKay they won't be paying more than about 2m for McGinn.

Lennon will also have leverage on what happens as he's negotiating a new deal.

NORTHERNHIBBY
27-08-2017, 12:27 PM
Is Kris Boyd a football journalist now?

Looks a good fit for the Daily Record.

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 12:31 PM
Looks a good fit for the Daily Record.He'd be a marquee signing for them.....

In the sense that a marquee might fit him

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The Falcon
27-08-2017, 12:31 PM
Certainly would for me.


Same

What if wants to go?

Is It On....
27-08-2017, 12:35 PM
If Forrest paid 0.5m for McKay they won't be paying more than about 2m for McGinn.

Lennon will also have leverage on what happens as he's negotiating a new deal.

Thought McKay was closer to 1m?

Beefster
27-08-2017, 12:41 PM
Respectfully, Warburton can go **** himself.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 12:47 PM
Sure the same words were used about JC. If we sold him it made relegation a near certainty.

No it didn't. Nobody said that. Selling McGinn at this time of the window would be shocking. Also to Lennon.

Paisley Hibby
27-08-2017, 12:51 PM
I would be very disappointed to see him go but the fact is every player has their price.

If we get 3m+ for him and then sign Hendo we'll be doing pretty well.
Hendo is no John McGinn, not even close. Losing SJM this late in the window might be good financially but a disaster in all other respects.

Michael
27-08-2017, 12:54 PM
McGinn is irreplaceable. If we sell him this season we'll suffer from selling too many key players too soon like Dundee United.

WhileTheChief..
27-08-2017, 01:15 PM
I'd sell him now whilst his value is high.

He can be brilliant on his day but I've seen too many average performances from him to think he's as good as most on here do.

We've got a strong squad and can easily cope without him.

I know I'm not meant to say such things about him on here :na na:

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 01:19 PM
McGinn is irreplaceable. If we sell him this season we'll suffer from selling too many key players too soon like Dundee United.The difference is that United needed the money for debts. We don't have the same issues.

And you can be sure that we have a contingency plan for replacements.

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chrisski33
27-08-2017, 01:20 PM
McGinn is irreplaceable. If we sell him this season we'll suffer from selling too many key players too soon like Dundee United.

Sorry no player is irreplaceable. If he goes we will be fine

Mon Dieu4
27-08-2017, 01:23 PM
Sorry no player is irreplaceable. If he goes we will be fine

Players are irreplaceable when you don't have the time to spend the money

Higgo
27-08-2017, 01:24 PM
McGinn is irreplaceable. If we sell him this season we'll suffer from selling too many key players too soon like Dundee United.

Absolutely not irreplaceable. He's a very good midfielder but not anywhere near as good as some of us think he is. I'll be sad to see him leave but we already have a replacement for him in Slivka.

SaulGoodman
27-08-2017, 01:25 PM
We won't miss the Mcginn that played today anyway. Mind on other things?

Thecat23
27-08-2017, 01:26 PM
Players are irreplaceable when you don't have the time to spend the money

We do though. There is no danger Hibs haven't lined up a replacement If McGinn was sold. He's the best player so we'd expect an offer at some point.

Still think he'll stay.

Hibbyradge
27-08-2017, 01:26 PM
We won't miss the Mcginn that played today anyway. Mind on other things?

I thought he was excellent.

SaulGoodman
27-08-2017, 01:27 PM
I thought he was excellent.

Well that sums up football doesn't it :greengrin

I thought he was poor.

Michael
27-08-2017, 01:28 PM
We won't miss the Mcginn that played today anyway. Mind on other things?

I struggle to see how anyone can have this opinion. Continuously won back the ball and started attacking moves.

hibsdaft
27-08-2017, 01:28 PM
We do though. There is no danger Hibs haven't lined up a replacement If McGinn was sold.

we've already signed him, from Juve.

spudhib
27-08-2017, 01:28 PM
Was very poor last week and distinctly average today,great player on his day but those days are becoming less frequent imo.

Greencore
27-08-2017, 01:28 PM
I would sell him. According to the bbc article he has already rejected a new contract offer from us. Better then getting nothing for him when his contract is up.

Onion
27-08-2017, 01:28 PM
If we're offered a shed load of cash, and I mean LOADS of cash, we need to take it. McGinn can be outstanding, but too often turns in performances like to today.

Then go get Henderson.

SaulGoodman
27-08-2017, 01:29 PM
I struggle to see how anyone can have this opinion. Continuously won back the ball and started attacking moves.

Sounds like you're talking about Bartley.

The Mcginn I watched seemed to take too many touches and had several poor passes.

Onion
27-08-2017, 01:29 PM
I thought he was excellent.

You're on the wind up. Naughty :greengrin

DavidDavidGray
27-08-2017, 01:31 PM
I would sell him. According to the bbc article he has already rejected a new contract offer from us. Better then getting nothing for him when his contract is up.

The article says he rejected the contract offer for St Mirren when we signed him and we paid the development fee. Nothing to do with him rejecting a contract with Hibs.

emerald green
27-08-2017, 01:34 PM
I wonder what the general consensus would be among the Hibs support would be, having bought 13,000 season tickets, if it ends up Hibs sell our top goalscorer (Cummings) and our best player by a mile (McGinn).

I would have fancied Cummings to have scored today.

ManBearPig
27-08-2017, 01:36 PM
750k knocked back according to NL

Beefster
27-08-2017, 01:38 PM
I would sell him. According to the bbc article he has already rejected a new contract offer from us. Better then getting nothing for him when his contract is up.

You need to read it again.

Andy74
27-08-2017, 01:38 PM
I wonder what the general consensus would be among the Hibs support would be, having bought 13,000 season tickets, if it ends up Hibs sell our top goalscorer (Cummings) and our best player by a mile (McGinn).

I would have fancied Cummings to have scored today.

He was replaced by Stokes who did score today.

I think fans know players have to be sold at some stage. We've had a good window so far and so we are doing our bit to replace players. Slivka looks like a ready made replacement already and we would be left with money to do even more.

Andy74
27-08-2017, 01:39 PM
750k knocked back according to NL

If that's the sort of figure it's a non story anyway!

Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 01:40 PM
Lennon says it's a laughable bid and nowhere near our valuation.

emerald green
27-08-2017, 01:40 PM
750k knocked back according to NL

They can shove that insulting offer right up their arse.

With all the money available to teams in England that is just a piss take of an offer if true.

hibeemikey21
27-08-2017, 01:40 PM
That interview was a bit ominous....

Elephant Stone
27-08-2017, 01:40 PM
750k knocked back according to NL

If that's what they've offered then I wouldn't be selling to them at any price. Taking the utter piss.

Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 01:41 PM
That interview was a bit ominous....

How so? If someone meets our valuation then fair enough. At the moment it's not even close.

hibeemikey21
27-08-2017, 01:43 PM
How so? If someone meets our valuation then fair enough. At the moment it's not even close.

Lennon sounded like someone who was resigned to losing him, without actually saying that

Borderhibbie76
27-08-2017, 01:44 PM
I thought he was excellent.Sorry mate I [emoji172]SJM but he was poor by his own high standards today...worst of the 3 in middle by some distance and Lennon has just commented similar in his Interview

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SouthMoroccoStu
27-08-2017, 01:46 PM
Sorry but what does Boyd know about our transfer window?

He and the BBC can take a run and jump

erin go bragh
27-08-2017, 01:48 PM
Laughable offer says NL . Lennon says every player has their price but it would take exceptional offer to get SJM .
As the song says " Warburtons a fanny ,,

Pete
27-08-2017, 01:51 PM
That's insulting from Forest. That manager of theirs had been bragging about how he's getting played really cheap here and he's trying it again.

750k for a young, full international who has bags of potential is beyond insulting...even for an opening figure.

If he played for Celtic we'd be talking 5million to start

emerald green
27-08-2017, 01:52 PM
He was replaced by Stokes who did score today.

I think fans know players have to be sold at some stage. We've had a good window so far and so we are doing our bit to replace players. Slivka looks like a ready made replacement already and we would be left with money to do even more.

Yes I know that, but Hibs have lost James Keatings, Grant Holt, and Brian Graham, as well as Cummings.

I know full well that players will be sold by Hibs, who are no different from any other club in that regard. Even the Barcelonas and Manchester Uniteds of this world sell players. That's because it's the players who really call the shots now.

From what I've seen of Slyvka, he looks a good player. Whether he will prove to be as good as McGinn remains to be seen. I feel selling McGinn now would weaken the squad.

Jim44
27-08-2017, 01:54 PM
750k knocked back according to NL

:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 01:55 PM
That interview was a bit ominous....

How so? If someone meets our valuation then fair enough. At the moment it's not even close.

tamig
27-08-2017, 01:58 PM
Lennon sounded like someone who was resigned to losing him, without actually saying that

Didn't think he sounded that way at all. If the valuation is met he'll go. If not, he stays. Simple as that.

CraigHibee
27-08-2017, 01:59 PM
If he played for Celtic we'd be talking 5million to start

Correct bud, it's an insult

SirDavidsNapper
27-08-2017, 01:59 PM
With respect he can take his 750k and ram it sideways...respectfully.

WhileTheChief..
27-08-2017, 02:00 PM
Sorry but what does Boyd know about our transfer window?

He and the BBC can take a run and jump

Boyd and the BBC are bang on with what they're reporting so they obviously know something!

Why you getting humpty with them? If you wanna moan, moan at Forrest's offer. No point shooting the messenger.

WhileTheChief..
27-08-2017, 02:02 PM
Lennon sounded like someone who was resigned to losing him, without actually saying that

He said he was looking forward to working with him once the window was shut.

FilipinoHibs
27-08-2017, 02:03 PM
Boyd and the BBC are bang on with what they're reporting so they obviously know something!

Why you getting humpty with them? If you wanna moan, moan at Forrest's offer. No point shooting the messenger.

They obviously want maximum duruption at our club. Help the Huns and the junior huns.

Golden Bear
27-08-2017, 02:03 PM
Mcginn out, Henderson in. That's my prediction.

Pete
27-08-2017, 02:04 PM
Mcginn out, Henderson in. That's my prediction.

If the cash was correct then I'd be happy with that.

Danderhall Hibs
27-08-2017, 02:08 PM
Mcginn out, Henderson in. That's my prediction.

We'd be in debit with that IMO.

G B Young
27-08-2017, 02:10 PM
So if 750k is 'laughable' we can surely assume Hibs are looking for at least 2m? With 30% of that going to St Mirren it's not enough in my view for a hugely talented young player with two years left on his contract. Hibs should hold tight and we'll get a better deal in the summer. McGinn's an intelligent lad and I'd be surprised if he wasn't prepared to wait a few months.

Paisley Hibby
27-08-2017, 02:11 PM
Mcginn out, Henderson in. That's my prediction.

Why do folk think a young guy who can't even get a place on the Celtic bench is in any way an acceptable replacement for our best midfielder (and a full international)?

hibeemikey21
27-08-2017, 02:13 PM
Didn't think he sounded that way at all. If the valuation is met he'll go. If not, he stays. Simple as that.

I think Lennon is the sort of guy to say "he's going absolutely nowhere" if he is.

He suggested he was expecting further offers and mentioned that mcginn has a price and that it will be a club decision etc etc. All of that points to Mcginn being off in my opinion. Will be very surprised if he stays now.

EH6 Hibby
27-08-2017, 02:14 PM
So if 750k is 'laughable' we can surely assume Hibs are looking for at least 2m? With 30% of that going to St Mirren it's not enough in my view for a hugely talented young player with two years left on his contract. Hibs should hold tight and we'll get a better deal in the summer. McGinn's an intelligent lad and I'd be surprised if he wasn't prepared to wait a few months.

Where do you get the figure of 2m from Hibs rejecting 750k?

Golden Bear
27-08-2017, 02:20 PM
Why do folk think a young guy who can't even get a place on the Celtic bench is in any way an acceptable replacement for our best midfielder (and a full international)?

I didn't say it was acceptable but it might happen. John Mcginn is himself "a young guy" whose career blossomed as a Hibs player and Henderson might turn out the same.

offshorehibby
27-08-2017, 02:22 PM
I didn't say it was acceptable but it might happen. John Mcginn is himself "a young guy" whose career blossomed as a Hibs player and Henderson might turn out the same.

Probably to late in the window but if SJM did go I'd like to see Lewis Morgan here.

Andy74
27-08-2017, 02:23 PM
Why do folk think a young guy who can't even get a place on the Celtic bench is in any way an acceptable replacement for our best midfielder (and a full international)?

Henderson is only a year younger than McGinn.

Who knows where McGinn would feature with Celtic?

Anyway, Slivka is probably the one who would really take the McGinn role and he is a more established international.

Henderson would be a useful addition too though.

We'd also have money to invest further.

A Hi-Bee
27-08-2017, 02:25 PM
Laughable offer says NL . Lennon says every player has their price but it would take exceptional offer to get SJM .
As the song says " Warburtons a fanny ,,

He wears a fanny's hat, he also has a very large grudge against the Scottish Cup winners of 2016. ****** him and his ****y wee team. never been the same since Big Mouth left them and never will be again.

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 02:28 PM
Where do you get the figure of 2m from Hibs rejecting 750k?Or the implication that our chairman is lying......

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coco22
27-08-2017, 02:29 PM
My tuppence worth....I also think he'll go v soon with an improved offer. Hibs clearly have a valuation in mind and won't waver on that. I think McGinn is an outstanding talent and we'll be a weaker side whenever he goes - big boots to fill but we are also a forward thinking club so expect a decent replacement.

pacoluna
27-08-2017, 02:30 PM
Hopefully today's performance put them off.

Jim44
27-08-2017, 02:31 PM
Probably to late in the window but if SJM did go I'd like to see Lewis Morgan here.

If he's going, I hope it's not going to drag on till the last minute, stopping us using the cash for a good replacement.

jacomo
27-08-2017, 02:31 PM
Why are Forest only making a bid now?

Pete
27-08-2017, 02:33 PM
Why are Forest only making a bid now?

Trying to back us into a corner?

They, along with their Pratt of a manager can **** off.

SouthMoroccoStu
27-08-2017, 02:35 PM
Boyd and the BBC are bang on with what they're reporting so they obviously know something!

Why you getting humpty with them? If you wanna moan, moan at Forrest's offer. No point shooting the messenger.

Similar messengers that thought us selling Allan was the "right" thing to do

How dare we beat and disrupt the Huns march back to glory

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 02:40 PM
If he's going, I hope it's not going to drag on till the last minute, stopping us using the cash for a good replacement.The money will be spent within 5 minutes of that happening. Have faith in LD. [emoji14]

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truehibernian
27-08-2017, 02:47 PM
The money will be spent within 5 minutes of that happening. Have faith in LD. [emoji14]

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I still maintain Celtic will be his next destination and are simply biding their time,

Big_Franck
27-08-2017, 02:47 PM
The money will be spent within 5 minutes of that happening. Have faith in LD. [emoji14]

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I agree, I have total faith in Dempster here. The last time we were in a similar position we lost Scott Allan who had a year left on his contract, replaced him with Henderson on loan for that year plus we got John McGinn and Dylan McGeouch. What a piece of business that was. I have faith that IF Forest stump up big money for him that we will see quality coming in as well.

Islington Hibs
27-08-2017, 02:48 PM
The Lennon quote below say to me he is off. Hope I am wrong but it is hardly a no way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41067065

G B Young
27-08-2017, 02:50 PM
[QUOTE=EH6 Hibby;5154345]Where do you get the figure of 2m from Hibs rejecting 750k?[/QUOTE

I'm just guessing that would be the sort of sum that Hibs might take more seriously. However, having dug out Lennon's quotes from earlier in the summer where he said McGinn wouldn't go for anything less than 4-5 million I hope I'm well off the mark:

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/competitions/premiership/neil-lennon-slaps-5-million-price-tag-on-hibs-john-mcginn-1-4511252

One thing's for sure, if we're sticking to that sort of price then there's no chance Forest will be getting him.

lugz
27-08-2017, 02:50 PM
750k are they having a laugh. Try 3x that at least. Here's hoping the club stay strong and don't get shafted on this.

Johnny_Leith
27-08-2017, 02:50 PM
The Lennon quote below say to me he is off. Hope I am wrong but it is hardly a no way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41067065

What makes you think he's away?

eastcoasthibby
27-08-2017, 02:51 PM
I would be very disappointed to see him go but the fact is every player has their price.

If we get 3m+ for him and then sign Hendo we'll be doing pretty well.

Hendo doesn't replace mcginn ....different players all together if mcginn goes we.need.to spend decent money to get someone in quick ..hope NL has someone in mind ??

Pete
27-08-2017, 02:52 PM
He's still got two years left?? I thought it was only one.

Makes the bid and all this crap from the Glasgow media even more laughable.

coco22
27-08-2017, 02:54 PM
Mcginn out, Henderson in. That's my prediction.

Agree. Not like for like players though!

Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 02:55 PM
The Lennon quote below say to me he is off. Hope I am wrong but it is hardly a no way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41067065

To be fair he's been saying the same for the entire window. If someone pays what we want he's away.

Big_Franck
27-08-2017, 02:57 PM
The Lennon quote below say to me he is off. Hope I am wrong but it is hardly a no way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41067065

What they have conveniently missed out of those quotes was when Lennon said that the offer was nowhere near the club's valuation of McGinn, and when asked about it again he said the offer was 'laughable'. It doesn't sound to me like he'll be going anywhere unless Forest more than double their first bid, which clubs rarely do. They are more likely to up it to a million and get told to GTF again.

Islington Hibs
27-08-2017, 02:59 PM
What they have conveniently missed out of those quotes was when Lennon said that the offer was nowhere near the club's valuation of McGinn, and when asked about it again he said the offer was 'laughable'. It doesn't sound to me like he'll be going anywhere unless Forest more than double their first bid, which clubs rarely do. They are more likely to up it to a million and get told to GTF again.

good- reminds me never to trust BBC/ media spin..... we should hold out for 3m.....

where'stheslope
27-08-2017, 03:02 PM
**** off Hibs don't sell at this stage!!

My feelings exactly!

Don't sell our best players after everyone has bought their season tickets, thinking that we have a good settled team.

Time to think about making a change to the transfer window so fans are not short changed when they buy their season tickets and then the good players are ripped away from the Club!

I know money talks, but to sell in the last week of the window does not allow time to find an adequate replacement and bring him in!!!!

Lancs Harp
27-08-2017, 03:09 PM
I think Lennon was just being totally honest. Hibs have apparently rejected an offer that was nowhere near the value of the player in our opinion, thats what he said and lets be realistic every player does have a price. If anyone meets thats valuation then Hibs have a decision to make and thats just what Lennon said.

Its always disappointing to us as fans to lose our better players but we all know thats how the game is, not just for us but for virtually every club in the world. How did St Mirren feel when we took him from them? If he moves to Forest and does well there then bigger fish then Forest will be after him and there wont be alot that Forest can do about it. Buying and selling of players is a significant part of the game. One door closes another door opens, when SJM does move on and lets face it, he will, then the key for us is to use the money we get for him wisely and ultimately make the team and squad better., view it as an opportunity if you like and try to llk for a positive out of the situation as difficult as that may seem when one of your better players moves on. Team building never ever stops.

MyJo
27-08-2017, 03:09 PM
Would be dissapointing to lose McGinn this transfer window but every player has his price.

I don't think we will see him leave for anything less than 2.5m and any offers like forests will be suitably laughed at and binned immediately by LD as we don't need, or particularly want, to sell him right now.

If he does go then so be it, hopefully we will have enough time to bring in a couple of more players to bolster the squad before the end of the window (Henderson & Moult :dunno:) and if he doesn't then great, he can get his head down and focus on having a good season in the premiership with us before considering his options next summer.

tamig
27-08-2017, 03:21 PM
I think Lennon is the sort of guy to say "he's going absolutely nowhere" if he is.

He suggested he was expecting further offers and mentioned that mcginn has a price and that it will be a club decision etc etc. All of that points to Mcginn being off in my opinion. Will be very surprised if he stays now.

It doesn't point to him going anywhere - unless they meet the valuation. Only at that point do the club have a decision to make.

seanshow
27-08-2017, 03:23 PM
For the fans sake It's good that the derogatory offer has been put in the public domain ( well done Neil ), minus the St mirren compensation it would laughable to accept it as is.

Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 03:26 PM
Lennon says his valuation of McGinn is in the region of 5 million. We are also in talks to extend McGinns contract. Not time to panic yet.

where'stheslope
27-08-2017, 03:31 PM
The other problem in a late bid, is it could be unsettling for the player.

The 2-3 million price tag comes with a far bigger wage than we are paying him, and that can be unsettling!

We need all our players totally focussed on us not looking elsewhere, just look at the other side of the city to see what can happen when derogatory offers are handed in and the players reaction whether meant or not is seen to be not trying.

Phil MaGlass
27-08-2017, 03:48 PM
2-3 mill for SJM yir huvvin a laugh. He is ggoing to be worth 6 x more worth as soon as he goes. Theres some average players leaving the Dutch league for unbelievable amounts, seems were being treated as second class. No cheap sale of SJM should be allowed. This lad hs a great futurevahead of him and if he goes for less than 5 mill to england I will be seriously disappointed.

ancient hibee
27-08-2017, 03:51 PM
Prepare to be severely disappointed.

biotech
27-08-2017, 03:53 PM
If money is right he goes. The problem is low bids serve no function other than distracting the player.

Diclonius
27-08-2017, 03:54 PM
English clubs regularly hand out over 10 million for complete trash. 5M minimum or get to ****.

Captain Trips
27-08-2017, 03:55 PM
Ridiculous overpayment of fees all over the place bar up here.

If SJM isn't happy then tough, but after some of the nonsense fees going about 3m for an international who is young and has reasonable time on contract 3m does not cut it by a long chalk. My opinion and im sticking to it.

truehibernian
27-08-2017, 03:56 PM
Prepare to be severely disappointed.

Far from it, if he goes it'll be a very good deal for Hibs and there is absolutely no doubt they have planned for this possibility and have player(s) lined up :aok:

Why be so negative ?

KeithTheHibby
27-08-2017, 03:59 PM
If the club value him at say even 3m and Forest's bid is only 750k suggests to me that this is far to big a gap to bridge for either club. Forest's bid is pathetic and that is even with the green tinted specs off.

ancient hibee
27-08-2017, 04:01 PM
Far from it, if he goes it'll be a very good deal for Hibs and there is absolutely no doubt they have planned for this possibility and have player(s) lined up :aok:

Why be so negative ?
I posted following a poster who said he will be seriously disappointed if John goes to England for less than five million.I told him to to prepare to be disappointed.Not being negative.OK?

Captain Trips
27-08-2017, 04:02 PM
If the club value him at say even 3m and Forest's bid is only 750k suggests to me that this is far to big a gap to bridge for either club. Forest's bid is pathetic and that is even with the green tinted specs off.

We and other clubs need to start getting a cut of these fees, a derisory bid is understandable considering what clubs accept up here.

Deansy
27-08-2017, 04:04 PM
We beat the Hun 3-2 so now they know their 'desparately needed' 2nd-place isn't a stick-on - now an ex-Hun manager (and, by the sounds of it, supported by an ex-Hun player) makes a derisory bid for our best player with 4-5 days of the transfer-window left ?. Ring a bell ??. Ironic the news breaks out today when we're playing a team with Scott Allan in it !!. Different player but same tactic by the same team - no money to cheat with so they use other underhanded methods !

Conspiracy ? Maybe but I wonder what the odds are on Warburton's claim against them for his 'Compensation' being settled 'Amicably' - soon !

Hibbyradge
27-08-2017, 04:06 PM
You're on the wind up. Naughty :greengrin

I'm not. I thought he was tenacious throughout and he passed well. He may have held on to the ball too long a couple of times, but otherwise I thought he was good.

truehibernian
27-08-2017, 04:09 PM
I posted following a poster who said he will be seriously disappointed if John goes to England for less than five million.I told him to to prepare to be disappointed.Not being negative.OK?

My apologies AH :aok:

Captain Trips
27-08-2017, 04:12 PM
I posted following a poster who said he will be seriously disappointed if John goes to England for less than five million.I told him to to prepare to be disappointed.Not being negative.OK?

I,ll be disappointed if he goes for less than 10m so yup 100% ready to be severely disappointed.

Hibbyradge
27-08-2017, 04:14 PM
I'd sell him now whilst his value is high.

He can be brilliant on his day but I've seen too many average performances from him to think he's as good as most on here do.



You could say the same about Pogba at Man U, and just about any other player, midfield or not.

brog
27-08-2017, 04:21 PM
Maybe I missed it but I didn't hear NL mention 750k in his post match interview. I thought his comments were fine & realistic. As he said, every player has his price, the Neymar transfer proved that. All we can do is ensure we either get a proper fee or SJM stays with us. Forest are just chancing their arm & testing the waters. If he goes I doubt that will be his destination & I also have faith we have a succession plan in place.

scoopyboy
27-08-2017, 04:22 PM
Silly question perhaps.

Does John McGinn have to personally sign forms?

He is away with Scotland in Lithuania so this may mean a last minute deal is highly unlikely and any deal is likely to take place early in the week which would give us time to get a replacement in.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 04:28 PM
Hearts sticking to their guns and not selling an inferior Walker for 1m with no money to to any other team and one year left on his deal. No danger we should be contemplating selling McGinn for anywhere near the figures bid at this time of the season. **** that.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 04:28 PM
Silly question perhaps.

Does John McGinn have to personally sign forms?

He is away with Scotland in Lithuania so this may mean a last minute deal is highly unlikely and any deal is likely to take place early in the week which would give us time to get a replacement in.

Or a medical?

Lancs Harp
27-08-2017, 04:29 PM
Silly question perhaps.

Does John McGinn have to personally sign forms?

He is away with Scotland in Lithuania so this may mean a last minute deal is highly unlikely and any deal is likely to take place early in the week which would give us time to get a replacement in.

Just unplug the fax machine.

snooky
27-08-2017, 04:30 PM
English clubs regularly hand out over 10 million for complete trash. 5M minimum or get to ****.

Are you saying SJM is only half as good as "complete trash"? :wink:

GlesgaeHibby
27-08-2017, 04:31 PM
Why do folk think a young guy who can't even get a place on the Celtic bench is in any way an acceptable replacement for our best midfielder (and a full international)?

Because he was excellent during his previous time with us perhaps?

greenlex
27-08-2017, 04:33 PM
If we could get north of a couple of million and then get another Slivka I be happy enough with that.

truehibernian
27-08-2017, 04:37 PM
Have to wonder if this is why the Ali Crawford leak came out have to say - very dogged, hard working player, has a goal in him.

Would folk take Hendo, Crawford and Commons if we lost SJM ? :cb

WestStandMoaner
27-08-2017, 04:58 PM
If we could get north of a couple of million and then get another Slivka I be happy enough with that.

Sorry but if McGinn goes it will have to be 3 million to 4 million or more he has two years left on his contract so at this moment in time Hibs hold the power talk of 750000 is just an insult. I have never liked Petrie but when it comes to getting the best price for hibs he is a master so there is no way Petrie and Demeter will allow him to go on the cheap

They will quite rightly tell Warburton he is a fanny and go and do one

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 04:59 PM
Have to wonder if this is why the Ali Crawford leak came out have to say - very dogged, hard working player, has a goal in him.

Would folk take Hendo, Crawford and Commons if we lost SJM ? :cb

We would have around 7,000 midfielders then. As long as we don't lose our best player for peanuts with no time to replace him it will be okay. Otherwise it will be same old story.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 05:00 PM
Sorry but if McGinn goes it will have to be 3 million to 4 million or more he has two years left on his contract so at this moment in time Hibs hold the power talk of 750000 is just an insult. I have never liked Petrie but when it comes to getting the best price for hibs he is a master so there is no way Petrie and Demeter will allow him to go on the cheap

They will quite rightly tell Warburton he is a fanny and go and do one


Then again, you have to wonder what Cummings got sold at if they bid than for an inferior SJM.

Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 05:05 PM
Was at the game today, and heard a few comments about this, but haven't seen an interview yet

Why have Forest bid on a Sunday morning before a game, and how was it that Kris Boyd broke the news?

Lancs Harp
27-08-2017, 05:07 PM
Was at the game today, and heard a few comments about this, but haven't seen an interview yet

Why have Forest bid on a Sunday morning before a game, and how was it that Kris Boyd broke the news?

I think just because the story has broke today doesnt neccessarily mean thats when Forest put the bid in.

poolman
27-08-2017, 05:12 PM
The Lennon quote below say to me he is off. Hope I am wrong but it is hardly a no way.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41067065


Why is he off exactly 🤔

Arch Stanton
27-08-2017, 05:16 PM
I'm not. I thought he was tenacious throughout and he passed well. He may have held on to the ball too long a couple of times, but otherwise I thought he was good.

Totally agree - just about everything went through SJM and he was always looking for an attacking option.

BlackSheep
27-08-2017, 05:16 PM
I rate McGinn very highly and if I am honest would be unhappy if we sold him....

....but

The squad that Lennon is building right now can cope without him.... especially if we do in fact sign Commons and/or Henderson. If the money we get for McGinn allows us to bring in other players of Slivka's ilk and perhaps sways lennon to sign his new contract then it surely is a no brainer?

Ryan69
27-08-2017, 05:18 PM
Then again, you have to wonder what Cummings got sold at if they bid than for an inferior SJM.

Accepting the first bid from a Championship club managed by an ex The Rangers fan!

I guarantee we got bumped!

Seems like it was a maximum of 1 million...which is nowhere near good enough.

Danderhall Hibs
27-08-2017, 05:19 PM
Maybe I missed it but I didn't hear NL mention 750k in his post match interview. I thought his comments were fine & realistic. As he said, every player has his price, the Neymar transfer proved that. All we can do is ensure we either get a proper fee or SJM stays with us. Forest are just chancing their arm & testing the waters. If he goes I doubt that will be his destination & I also have faith we have a succession plan in place.

He said it in the BBC radio interview.

Pete
27-08-2017, 05:21 PM
Accepting the first bid from a Championship club managed by an ex The Rangers fan!

I guarantee we got bumped!

Seems like it was a maximum of 1 million...which is nowhere near good enough.

Or...

Maybe there was a gentlemans agreement between the player and Hibs that a certain offer would be accepted if he helped us get back up.

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 05:22 PM
Accepting the first bid from a Championship club managed by an ex The Rangers fan!

I guarantee we got bumped!

Seems like it was a maximum of 1 million...which is nowhere near good enough.

Complete agree. Once is a sin, twice at this time of year would be ****ing shocking

Paisley Hibby
27-08-2017, 05:27 PM
Because he was excellent during his previous time with us perhaps?

He wasn't even first choice with us in The Championship. I think too many folk's opinions are based solely on the last 15 minutes of the Cup Final (a game he didn't even start in). Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him at Hibs, but not as a replacement for SJM.

Lancs Harp
27-08-2017, 05:29 PM
McGinn leaving will change the dynamic of the starting eleven, there wont be a direct replacement as such, a new face or two could well come in and a midfield "shuffle". One in one out, play the same way is a bit too simplistic IMO, it doesnt work like that.

Bostonhibby
27-08-2017, 05:30 PM
Accepting the first bid from a Championship club managed by an ex The Rangers fan!

I guarantee we got bumped!

Seems like it was a maximum of 1 million...which is nowhere near good enough.Talk amongst forest fans I know has been consistently at 1.8m plus sell on.

Who actually knows though?

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Danderhall Hibs
27-08-2017, 05:31 PM
We need to get Celtic interested to bump this price up.

B.H.F.C
27-08-2017, 05:37 PM
He wasn't even first choice with us in The Championship. I think too many folk's opinions are based solely on the last 15 minutes of the Cup Final (a game he didn't even start in). Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him at Hibs, but not as a replacement for SJM.

Becoming a bit of a myth this one. Henderson started the vast majority of matches when he was with us.

Not In The Know
27-08-2017, 05:37 PM
Hearts sticking to their guns and not selling an inferior Walker for 1m with no money to to any other team and one year left on his deal. No danger we should be contemplating selling McGinn for anywhere near the figures bid at this time of the season. **** that.


Sevco are not offering anything close to that for the diver.

eastcoasthibby
27-08-2017, 05:38 PM
We should be looking for 5m+. We might not get it but transfers have gone nuts in England so not point selling ourselves short.

Exactly ..ollie burke to west brom for 50 million ..ffs

ancient hibee
27-08-2017, 05:45 PM
Exactly ..ollie burke to west brom for 50 million ..ffs
fifteen

BoomtownHibeys
27-08-2017, 05:45 PM
He wasn't even first choice with us in The Championship. I think too many folk's opinions are based solely on the last 15 minutes of the Cup Final (a game he didn't even start in). Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him at Hibs, but not as a replacement for SJM.

48 games for us suggests otherwise

ancient hibee
27-08-2017, 05:47 PM
My apologies AH :aok:

Accepted thank you.

I will be disappointed if he goes though,

lucky
27-08-2017, 05:48 PM
McGinn deserves his move but not at even close to 750k with 30% to St.Mirren. I reckon a fair price is 3m for a Scottish international

Firestarter
27-08-2017, 05:48 PM
Or...

Maybe there was a gentlemans agreement between the player and Hibs that a certain offer would be accepted if he helped us get back up.

With a former manager? Same as JC? Shove them up their *****. Get the best deal for the club.

Is It On....
27-08-2017, 05:52 PM
Accepting the first bid from a Championship club managed by an ex The Rangers fan!

I guarantee we got bumped!

Seems like it was a maximum of 1 million...which is nowhere near good enough.

If it was 1m...the only way we could agree would be with an 80% sell on clause. Warburton can GTF!!!

Is It On....
27-08-2017, 05:53 PM
Exactly ..ollie burke to west brom for 50 million ..ffs

15m I thought...but that is still a 5m profit for TV Leipzig.

SRHibs
27-08-2017, 05:54 PM
Nope, 50 (fifty). When he went from Forest to Leipzig he became the most expensive Scottish player of all time and they paid 30million. The record was smashed by him again when west Brom paid 50million. A quick Google search will confirm.

It was 12 then 15, lol.

007
27-08-2017, 05:54 PM
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/neil-lennon-accuses-mark-warburton-of-trying-to-unsettle-john-mcginn-1-4543849

Lennon's put a 5m price tag on him according to the EEN.

jonny
27-08-2017, 05:57 PM
It was 12 then 15, lol.

Yup, just deleted my inaccurate post LoL.
You managed a quote before I got in though. The boy on the radio the other day must've said 13 and 15. My old ears picked up 30 and 50.
I stand corrected. The thing is that given the ridiculous amounts being thrown around in England it didn't surprise me that much.

Cod Boy
27-08-2017, 06:00 PM
Kris Boyd should be taking to task talking about other teams players while still playing in the same division and unsettling the club.

Is It On....
27-08-2017, 06:02 PM
Kris Boyd should be taking to task talking about other teams players while still playing in the same division and unsettling the club.

Can't imagine what Killie fans think..truly awful.

brog
27-08-2017, 06:12 PM
He said it in the BBC radio interview.

OK ta. I think Forest got excited when they got McKay for about 10% of what Sevco were laughably expecting/hoping for him. He made a great start,though he was shocking yesterday, so I believe they're thinking why not try again. The difference is Pedro had told McKay he had no future & Sevco were desperate for cash. Neither is true with SJM.

KirkyBergkamp
27-08-2017, 06:13 PM
Becoming a bit of a myth this one. Henderson started the vast majority of matches when he was with us.

Heroes reduced to sound-bytes as a stick to beat them with - sadly predicatable.
If this was a "journalist" we'd call them "lazy".

To to be heard in the near future:

"never kicked a ball since" or "still living off/dining out that day in May".

In this case I do "hope I'm wrong"

where'stheslope
27-08-2017, 06:21 PM
I just heard the quoted amount of the amount 750k, that is an absolute disgrace, and was quite rightly thrown out.

But with McGinn away with Scotland this week, other players will be talking to him about the difference between Scotland and England, and that could be potentially unsettling, and Strachan could in interview say the reason McGinn not playing is the transfer rumours, and then it is even more pressure on him!!!!

MyJo
27-08-2017, 06:22 PM
Accepting the first bid from a Championship club managed by an ex The Rangers fan!

I guarantee we got bumped!

Seems like it was a maximum of 1 million...which is nowhere near good enough.

Whatever we got for Cummings its was significantly more than the 0 we would have got when he moved on this summer anyway without having signed a new contract with us last year.

Cummings signing that contract with its rumoured release clause was the only reason we got anywhere near 1m or whatever the actual figure was for him. Without it we would have been left with nothing if we kept him to help us get promoted or sold him for peanuts in one of the last two transfer windows and jeapordised our chances of winning the championship.

Despite what you might think the club did extremely well to get what they did out of the Cummings deal.

JimboHibs
27-08-2017, 06:23 PM
So does anyone really know what the bid was ?

Captain Trips
27-08-2017, 06:28 PM
I just heard the quoted amount of the amount 750k, that is an absolute disgrace, and was quite rightly thrown out.

But with McGinn away with Scotland this week, other players will be talking to him about the difference between Scotland and England, and that could be potentially unsettling, and Strachan could in interview say the reason McGinn not playing is the transfer rumours, and then it is even more pressure on him!!!!

There is no way whatsoever that Notts Forrest etc would have bid that if SJM was playing in any other country. This is and never should be about the Scottish league it should be about the players actual ability, potential and IMO the league that they are wanted in.

If there are other current international players at his age moving between clubs in that league for less than 1m then ok.

GlesgaeHibby
27-08-2017, 06:30 PM
He wasn't even first choice with us in The Championship. I think too many folk's opinions are based solely on the last 15 minutes of the Cup Final (a game he didn't even start in). Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him at Hibs, but not as a replacement for SJM.

As somebody has already pointed out, this is a total myth. He made 32 appearances for us in the Championship - 27 starting. I got along to approx half of our home games that season and in most he was excellent, and often a standout.

nonshinyfinish
27-08-2017, 06:39 PM
So does anyone really know what the bid was ?

Oh god are we doing the 'is Neil Lennon ITK' argument again?

weecounty hibby
27-08-2017, 06:40 PM
I have been watching Hibs for long enough to know that our best players tend to leave us at some point. I'm sure SJM will go and maybe even in the next few days but the fee is key for us. If second rate clubs like Forrest who are propped up by the false economy of Sky money come calling then Hibs should be holding out for North of 3 million and up to 5 in my opinion. I watched Forrest yesterday and they were crap. He wouldn't be going to a club challenging down there to get into premiership. The only thing he would get out of a move to them would be more money. I think he is better than a mid table championship club and is certainly better than 750k. Oh aye, and Warburtons a fanny

Ryan69
27-08-2017, 06:40 PM
Talk amongst forest fans I know has been consistently at 1.8m plus sell on.

Who actually knows though?

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Did Fannie with a hat not point out how low the fee was?

May be wrong though.

Elephant Stone
27-08-2017, 06:46 PM
Getting sick of these championship teams all beefed up on their TV money offering peanuts for good players.

To: The Championship

**** you.

Bostonhibby
27-08-2017, 06:48 PM
Did Fannie with a hat not point out how low the fee was?

May be wrong though.He's a fanny with a fannys hat for sure but I doubt he broke what is meant to be a confidential commercial agreement between the club's. If he did it might mean clubs not being too keen on doing deals where forest dishonour the terms later?

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Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 06:52 PM
He's a fanny with a fannys hat for sure but I doubt he broke what is meant to be a confidential commercial agreement between the club's. If he did it might mean clubs not being too keen on doing deals where forest dishonour the terms later?

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He was definitely quoted as saying what they paid for JC was nowhere near a million quid. I'll try and find the exact quotes.

Edit:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/jason-cummings-capture-defines-nottingham-184658.amp

Bostonhibby
27-08-2017, 06:55 PM
He was definitely quoted as saying what they paid for JC was nowhere near a million quid. I'll try and find the exact quotes.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/jason-cummings-capture-defines-nottingham-184658.ampYou're probably right but 1.8m is nowhere near 1m too and we know he speaks with forked tongue.
https://youtu.be/0SaUn6Xgmrk


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jacomo
27-08-2017, 07:00 PM
He was definitely quoted as saying what they paid for JC was nowhere near a million quid. I'll try and find the exact quotes.

Edit:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.nottinghampost.com/sport/football/football-news/jason-cummings-capture-defines-nottingham-184658.amp



You are relying on Warburton telling the truth? Seriously?

HoboHarry
27-08-2017, 07:03 PM
Getting sick of these championship teams all beefed up on their TV money offering peanuts for good players.

To: The Championship

**** you.
They are doing the same as we would do - it's just business. As long as Hibs stick to their guns we will get a decent price. Rod Petrie has always driven hard bargains so we should do just fine if McGinn goes.

neil7908
27-08-2017, 07:09 PM
Interesting that the BBC are quoting the 30% to St Mirren...

Green&White
27-08-2017, 07:10 PM
Celtic paid 4mill for scot brown 10 years ago! For me SJM has just as much potential and in todays market (which we all know has increased 10 fold) we should be looking for at least 5 million plus imo.

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Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 07:13 PM
You are relying on Warburton telling the truth? Seriously?

Eh...no. I never said that. I was merely pointing out that Warbiola had commented on the Cummings transfer fee when it was meant to be undisclosed.

Bostonhibby
27-08-2017, 07:19 PM
Eh...no. I never said that. I was merely pointing out that Warbiola had commented on the Cummings transfer fee when it was meant to be undisclosed.That's how I read it[emoji106]

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CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 07:45 PM
Interesting that the BBC are quoting the 30% to St Mirren...The only public source of which is their ex-chairman.

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Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 07:47 PM
The only public source of which is their ex-chairman.

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I'm surprised he's allowed to quote this. These sort of things should be confidential, but Gilmour has always liked publicity

brog
27-08-2017, 07:56 PM
I'm surprised he's allowed to quote this. These sort of things should be confidential, but Gilmour has always liked publicity

I don't have a problem with it Billy. When we signed SJM, the Saints fans were understandably upset that we had paid what seemed a small fee for an emerging talent. IIRC their Chairman was questioned on the fee at their AGM & that was when he disclosed the 30% sell on fee. Still a great piece of business by us, arguably our best deal for many years.

Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 08:00 PM
I don't have a problem with it Billy. When we signed SJM, the Saints fans were understandably upset that we had paid what seemed a small fee for an emerging talent. IIRC their Chairman was questioned on the fee at their AGM & that was when he disclosed the 30% sell on fee. Still a great piece of business by us, arguably our best deal for many years.

Brog, can't disagree with your comments, we've done well out of McGinn, raised by St Mirren, and blossomed at Hibs
However you don't hear Hibs directors mentioning what we got for JC, or any sell on fee

As an aside, saw something that you were coming up to scotland, were you at the game today

neil7908
27-08-2017, 08:05 PM
The only public source of which is their ex-chairman.

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I've heard on here Petrie refuted the 30% figure (nothing like that was the quote I believe).

Now the BBC can and do get many things wrong but the language used here is unequivocal. Not "ex St Mirren chairman says..." or "BBC understands St Mirren are due..."

JimboHibs
27-08-2017, 08:06 PM
Oh god are we doing the 'is Neil Lennon ITK' argument again?

Ooh hark at her 🙄

jacomo
27-08-2017, 08:06 PM
The only public source of which is their ex-chairman.

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As sources go it's a good one.

And as far as I know there is nothing to stop him disclosing details of the sell on fee if he wants to.

Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 08:08 PM
As sources go it's a good one.

And as far as I know there is nothing to stop him disclosing details of the sell on fee if he wants to.

I think he was trying to justify that they got something decent for him, after their Captain, allegedly threw a spear at him at the end of training

Cod Boy
27-08-2017, 08:11 PM
Good chance Jamie Walker will be at Forest in the next few days.

Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 08:13 PM
Good chance Jamie Walker will be at Forest in the next few days.

This mean Hearts will get a pitiful fee?

Cod Boy
27-08-2017, 08:16 PM
This mean Hearts will get a pitiful fee?

To my knowledge they have made enquiries about him and with only one year left the bid would be low.

CropleyWasGod
27-08-2017, 08:35 PM
As sources go it's a good one.

And as far as I know there is nothing to stop him disclosing details of the sell on fee if he wants to.Yet Rod says it's "nowhere near 30%".

Why quote one and not the other?



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18Hibee75
27-08-2017, 08:49 PM
John McGinn is out best player and a lot of our attacks go through him. He would be hugely missed if he did move on, I'm not 100% sure if McGinn himself would even want the move or not this season. He seems a smart boy who loves playing for hibs, he knows an even bigger offer may be on the cards next year IMO.

If he was to go however, Slivka is looking very good and we would be able to bring in Hendo. Wouldn't be a crisis but certainly not ideal.

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Thecat23
27-08-2017, 09:03 PM
You are relying on Warburton telling the truth? Seriously?

Sadly on this occasion it's true.

brog
27-08-2017, 09:13 PM
Brog, can't disagree with your comments, we've done well out of McGinn, raised by St Mirren, and blossomed at Hibs
However you don't hear Hibs directors mentioning what we got for JC, or any sell on fee

As an aside, saw something that you were coming up to scotland, were you at the game today

No unfortunately was up briefly for family funeral, another good Hibby gone. Back darn sarf now as I go to Portugal this week. Hopefully get up soon but the fixtures are conspiring against me.

GordonHFC
27-08-2017, 09:16 PM
Sadly on this occasion it's true.

Is it true that part of the deal is based on a fee per number of goals he scores.

Sir David Gray
27-08-2017, 10:18 PM
750,000 for John McGinn is an absolute joke.

They would need to treble that offer (at least) to even start giving the board a decision to make.

The thing that annoys me is that if McGinn was English, he would probably be valued at around 5-7 million, yet English clubs seem to think that they can get Scottish players on the cheap.

Lancs Harp
27-08-2017, 10:23 PM
750,000 for John McGinn is an absolute joke.

They would need to treble that offer (at least) to even start giving the board a decision to make.

The thing that annoys me is that if McGinn was English, he would probably be valued at around 5-7 million, yet English clubs seem to think that they can get Scottish players on the cheap.

Its got nothing to do with his nationality. Where he is playing, yes certainly but not his nationality. Robertson has just moved from Hull to Liverpool for a figure of around 10 million, he was Scottish last time I looked.

Danderhall Hibs
27-08-2017, 10:25 PM
Its got nothing to do with his nationality. Where he is playing, yes certainly but not his nationality. Robertson has just moved from Hull to Liverpool for a figure of around 10 million, he was Scottish last time I looked.

Aye but he's already playing in England so had to pay the EPL tax. They take the piss with us up here cos they think we're all desperate for their loose change.

NadeAteMyLunch!
27-08-2017, 10:26 PM
I'd honestly tell Forest that's it's an absolute non starter now after that insulting bid. 750k is taking the complete and utter piss and they know it. A statement to say that we don't deal with time wasters might make folk sit up and take notice. Open to offers, just not from Warburton.

greenlex
27-08-2017, 10:26 PM
Its got nothing to do with his nationality. Where he is playing, yes certainly but not his nationality. Robertson has just moved from Hull to Liverpool for a figure of around 10 million, he was Scottish last time I looked.

It's not even that it's who he's playing for. I bet bids from down south for Celtic players are hugely inflated in comparison too

Lancs Harp
27-08-2017, 10:26 PM
Aye but he's already playing in England so had to pay the EPL tax. They take the piss with us up here cos they think we're all desperate for their loose change.

Like I said, where he plays yes but his nationality? I dont think so.

Captain Trips
27-08-2017, 10:27 PM
750,000 for John McGinn is an absolute joke.

They would need to treble that offer (at least) to even start giving the board a decision to make.

The thing that annoys me is that if McGinn was English, he would probably be valued at around 5-7 million, yet English clubs seem to think that they can get Scottish players on the cheap.

I would say players from Scottish clubs on the cheap rather than them being Scottish. Not enough money in the game up here so we are to be thankful for any fees we get.

eastcoasthibby
28-08-2017, 06:08 AM
fifteen

Oops misheard ..cheers ..still too much

eastcoasthibby
28-08-2017, 06:13 AM
If it was 1m...the only way we could agree would be with an 80% sell on clause. Warburton can GTF!!!

We need the cash up front not in 3 years time, or make it 3 million now and 40% sell on ...

BOB MARLEYS DUG
28-08-2017, 07:29 AM
Third bid incoming

Springbank
28-08-2017, 07:32 AM
Third bid incoming

To be honest, that's a non issue. Unless it's for 3m plus.

Rangers were going up 32p at a time with Scott Allan, was probably 5 bids...ALL rejected.

Our board have a clear plan, and stick to it, so they are welcome to put in 45 or 50 bids of a shan valuation. They'll get a lot of "no thanks, must try harder" replies, that's all

RoxburghHibs
28-08-2017, 07:47 AM
Does McGinn have just under 2 years left in his contract with us?

If so then starting bids should be 2m.

scoopyboy
28-08-2017, 07:55 AM
None of the players knew anything about the Forest bid yesterday before the game, so if SJM did he kept it to himself.

BSEJVT
28-08-2017, 07:55 AM
I wonder what the general consensus would be among the Hibs support would be, having bought 13,000 season tickets, if it ends up Hibs sell our top goalscorer (Cummings) and our best player by a mile (McGinn).

I would have fancied Cummings to have scored today.

The general consensus I suspect would be that players of the quality of McGinn & Cummings outgrow every team in Scotland and better players than them outgrow the much vaunted EPL.

Providing the club receive decent remuneration for the players and reinvest that remuneration well it is part and parcel of the every charging landscape of any football team