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I'm_cabbaged
22-08-2017, 05:36 PM
I'm actually praying they win on Saturday😁
Me too!! I've backed him 😉
Or perhaps ... cost of acquiring a manager was an issue in the first pass but we've now decided to push the boat out to get the best man we can, and prepared to pay £££ ? Could spin it a few ways.
Yes, but would have to be a good piece of spin for anyone to buy that. :greengrin In fact, unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat, it's going have to be a great bit of spin no matter what they do now. Fans will be divided pretty quickly unless the new guy gets off to a great start.
Levein dismissed Billy Davies' statement as p*sh and they are counting that as a review of their football operation.
Sioux
22-08-2017, 06:39 PM
If the response to the vacancy resulted in a very high calibre of candidates, how come they are down to the like of Daly, the caveman and Hartley? Methinks the Budgie is making stuff up.
G B Young
22-08-2017, 08:03 PM
If the response to the vacancy resulted in a very high calibre of candidates, how come they are down to the like of Daly, the caveman and Hartley? Methinks the Budgie is making stuff up.
What also strikes me about this is the contrast between our own appointment of Lennon and the ham-fisted efforts at Hearts to land somebody of even half-decent calibre.
When Lennon was first rumoured to be a Hibs target to succeed Stubbs my instinctive reaction was that we would have no chance of landing somebody that 'big'. The fact we did so made for a fantastic feelgood factor to follow the cup win and I think most would agree Hibs pulled off a real coup.
Hearts on the other hand, seem to have had no plan in place in the event of Cathro failing to improve on last season's dismal efforts (did they REALLY think he'd have become a better manager in just a few weeks??) and they have been left floundering around for four weeks as the experienced coach Budge claimed they would now go far has failed to materialise. Instead we've seen a succession of experienced managers (if not exactly names to set the heather alight) ruling themselves out of the running so that a coach even less experienced than Cathro now looks to be the front runner.
No question we made a series of wrong calls on managers prior to Stubbs, but since Dempster has come in the streamlined way in which Hibs conduct their business from top to bottom blows Hearts out the water.
steakbake
22-08-2017, 08:08 PM
Seems a long time ago that Shteve McLaren was being linked with them...
Onion
22-08-2017, 08:47 PM
If the response to the vacancy resulted in a very high calibre of candidates, how come they are down to the like of Daly, the caveman and Hartley? Methinks the Budgie is making stuff up.
Lack of cash, poor leadership, archaic structure and deluded arrogance. They are forever straddling the HUGE gap between reality of what can be achieved operationally with the funds available and the expectations of the Yam Hoards ingrained from the living-beyond-your-means Vlad days.
They are doomed for a generation, where Hibs are the real force and will exact revenge on behalf of the millions of pensioners, widows and small businesses who were used by Vlad and Yams.
They need a goalkeeper and a midfield though other than players currently without a club why would anyone want to sign for a club when they don't know who the manager is going to be?
Announcement next week means there's next to no time for a new manager to get players in they want. They'll either be settling for whoever they can lay their hands on or signing nobody else at all.
truehibernian
22-08-2017, 09:07 PM
If the response to the vacancy resulted in a very high calibre of candidates, how come they are down to the like of Daly, the caveman and Hartley? Methinks the Budgie is making stuff up.
Because Levein has had his target in mind all along. Budge will have had limited input in my opinion. None of my Hearts friends are even questioning why McLaren, Freedman and now Davies are happily walking away to better jobs (or walking away in the case of Davies) - bizarre they are so acquiescent. And I don't think for one minute McLaren was even interested in the Hearts job. And how, when you are without manager, can you give a 34 (and a half :greengrin) year old (Cowie) a contract extension - it tells you exactly who is 'managing' the team.
I'd say 1) there's no real cash available to really invest in their team hence folk have distanced themselves and 2) Pressley is the man they've wanted all along. I get the impression with Levein it's very much 'jobs for the boys'. The loss of Walker will also be a real blow to a new manager coming in, with limited time in the window and reliance on frees.
I posted a wee while ago that when they had their pitch issues, Budge left it to the 'experts' and told an ex colleague of mine that it was the biggest investment/outlay she had ever made (in business) with the least information available to her. £250-300K and she didn't do due diligence ???
I like Budge but I feel those around her are taking the 'we're football people' rationale to a new level of absurdity :greengrin she seems very trusting in idiots which stands us and other sides in good stead - Hearts are a shambles in my opinion :agree: If I'm correct, Budge set herself a 3-5 year plan when she took over - today's statement seems to suggest they are about to embark on the second 3 year plan :greengrin I know they are creative about attendances but can they even count or remember what their plans were/are :na na: does that not make it two 3 years plans making it a 6 year plan ? Sounds very much like us prior to Leeann taking over, always this 'work in progress' !
I was down there earlier today and the new stand is simply awful, and I mean awful. These chips they're offering better be good and they better be available in the Roseburn Stand :greengrin Still can't believe any serious organisation would say 'chips will be served' :faf::faf::faf:
Bostonhibby
22-08-2017, 09:07 PM
If the response to the vacancy resulted in a very high calibre of candidates, how come they are down to the like of Daly, the caveman and Hartley? Methinks the Budgie is making stuff up.
She's saying they've had the pick of the elite football managers from around the world who all want to manage the "famous" at their half built arena, and through the expertise that Potter and her have they have eliminated all other choices (as opposed to them publicly saying why they don't want to be at the wongadome)
Having eliminated all those that don't meet yamstandard they are really hoping Daly blags a result next week, if not it will be Pressley or Hartley. She realises that missing out on the opportunity to be the next gorgie guardiola will set many great careers back.
It's no different to when Vlad used to pump them up with all his ramblings about world class managers then appoint guys like Malofeev etc.
Iggy Pope
22-08-2017, 09:11 PM
Because Levein has had his target in mind all along. Budge will have had limited input in my opinion. None of my Hearts friends are even questioning why McLaren, Freedman and now Davies are happily walking away to better jobs (or walking away in the case of Davies) - bizarre they are so acquiescent.
I was down there earlier today and the new stand is simply awful, and I mean awful. These chips they're offering better be good and they better be available in the Roseburn Stand :greengrin Still can't believe any serious organisation would say 'chips will be served' :faf::faf::faf:
Apologies for editing everything else, but that is word of the day.
truehibernian
22-08-2017, 09:17 PM
Apologies for editing everything else, but that is word of the day.
And I didn't even have to spell check Iggy :greengrin:aok:
Danderhall Hibs
23-08-2017, 06:21 AM
According to BBC radio last night they're down to Pressley and Hartley. The fans can't stand Pressley so it'll have to be Hartley?
After all as Scott McDonald said they're fan owned so they make the call.
Thecat23
23-08-2017, 06:27 AM
All those "top quality" managers out there but the best they can find is two guys who both look homeless and aren't very well liked in football.
Kojock
23-08-2017, 06:29 AM
According to BBC radio last night they're down to Pressley and Hartley. The fans can't stand Pressley so it'll have to be Hartley?
After all as Scott McDonald said they're fan owned so they make the call.
Technically they are fan owned it just so happens it's one fan called Budge.
Hibee87
23-08-2017, 06:38 AM
According to BBC radio last night they're down to Pressley and Hartley. The fans can't stand Pressley so it'll have to be Hartley?
After all as Scott McDonald said they're fan owned so they make the call.
Thats actually a good point. They are fan owned in the sense they have elected fan(ie)s on the board, is that correct? If so then you would think there would be at least some sort of discussion with the FOH about the next manager. As far as im aware its all down to budge and levein.
Danderhall Hibs
23-08-2017, 06:40 AM
Thats actually a good point. They are fan owned in the sense they have elected fan(ie)s on the board, is that correct? If so then you would think there would be at least some sort of discussion with the FOH about the next manager. As far as im aware its all down to budge and levein.
Aye it's a bit strange for a fan owned club to not include a fan in the decision.
Unless they're not fan owned obviously!
SirDavidsNapper
23-08-2017, 06:45 AM
All those "top quality" managers out there but the best they can find is two guys who both look homeless and aren't very well liked in football.
I really thought the largest glass curtain wall in Gorgie would have attracted some of the world's best managers. I can only assume the Hartley and Pressley are rumours are some sort of decoy while they tap up Guardiolla.
CropleyWasGod
23-08-2017, 06:47 AM
Thats actually a good point. They are fan owned in the sense they have elected fan(ie)s on the board, is that correct? If so then you would think there would be at least some sort of discussion with the FOH about the next manager. As far as im aware its all down to budge and levein.It's not correct. Membership of a Board does not necessarily mean ownership. It doesn't in our case, and not in theirs.
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Hibee87
23-08-2017, 06:53 AM
It's not correct. Membership of a Board does not necessarily mean ownership. It doesn't in our case, and not in theirs.
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I see what you mean. Budge needs to protect her investment so only listens to man she trusts. Oh to be all doughey eyed and oblivious
Borderhibbie76
23-08-2017, 08:44 AM
All those "top quality" managers out there but the best they can find is two guys who both look homeless and aren't very well liked in football.1 sacked for taking Dundee to brink of drop and the other sacked from every job he's had down south....hilarious 🤣🤣🤣
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Jim44
23-08-2017, 09:25 AM
Talking about Sergio on KB, I had to have a wee smirk at this comment:
"Lets not forget he managed through a period of absolute chaos.. I'd like to see what he could achieve now that we are stable" :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:
Bostonhibby
23-08-2017, 09:38 AM
Talking about Sergio on KB, I had to have a wee smirk at this comment:
"Lets not forget he managed through a period of absolute chaos.. I'd like to see what he could achieve now that we are stable" :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:Bring back Malofeev, or any of the strange people that vlad plucked from the managerial merry go round he presided over. The whole period was chaos, the idiot believers just couldn't or wouldn't see what was going on.
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Which of Presley and Hartley will withdraw today.
The jokers on kickback still think that this is all happening as there is an as yet unknown candidate with whom they are agreeing compensation for to release from current job.
jacomo
23-08-2017, 10:20 AM
Which of Presley and Hartley will withdraw today.
The jokers on kickback still think that this is all happening as there is an as yet unknown candidate with whom they are agreeing compensation for to release from current job.
Sure.
Of their 5 man shortlist, 2 have already accepted jobs elsewhere and a third is slagging them in the papers.
It's just your typical Big Club experience.
NORTHERNHIBBY
23-08-2017, 10:21 AM
Can't believe that Hearts fans will be happy with either Hartley or Pressley. If they were not ex players they wouldn't be in the running. They should just appoint Potter and take the flak. Neither PH nor SP would take on the assistant job so that would go to John Daly.
Sean1875
23-08-2017, 10:27 AM
If Hearts beat Motherwell at the weekend I reckon Daly is a cert for the job. Lose or even draw and I think Elvis will be appointed next week.
Apparently the players and Levein are calling for Daly to get it but the Budgie isn't convinced
According to BBC radio last night they're down to Pressley and Hartley. The fans can't stand Pressley so it'll have to be Hartley?
After all as Scott McDonald said they're fan owned so they make the call.
Hartley is a guest on Sportsound tonight.
There's still a chance it could be Levein, though I'd be surprised.
Keith_M
23-08-2017, 11:25 AM
What's the betting Skacel will get the job, to appease the masses.
portohibee
23-08-2017, 11:28 AM
Which of Presley and Hartley will withdraw today.
The jokers on kickback still think that this is all happening as there is an as yet unknown candidate with whom they are agreeing compensation for to release from current job.
They think Michael O Neill, even discussing if he can still continue in the NI gig at the same time, :top marks
Tornadoes70
23-08-2017, 11:31 AM
Hartley is a guest on Sportsound tonight.
There's still a chance it could be Levein, though I'd be surprised.
Potter is already the established head manager in all but name. They're looking to hire another fall guy if Potter's team once again angers the yam boo boys.
:greengrin
1van Sprou7e
23-08-2017, 11:39 AM
Didn't they release a statement after Cathro was sacked that stated they'd be appointing a manager with experience?
Anyone have a link to said statement? Will be great wind up material if they end up with Daly
Edit: Actually it may not have been an official club statement but I'm fairly sure Budge said something along those lines
Billy Whizz
23-08-2017, 11:49 AM
Didn't they release a statement after Cathro was sacked that stated they'd be appointing a manager with experience?
Anyone have a link to said statement? Will be great wind up material if they end up with Daly
Edit: Actually it may not have been an official club statement but I'm fairly sure Budge said something along those lines
She issued an another statement yesterday
Seems every time kickback goes into meltdown, Budge releases another statement
Sean1875
23-08-2017, 11:54 AM
Didn't they release a statement after Cathro was sacked that stated they'd be appointing a manager with experience?
Anyone have a link to said statement? Will be great wind up material if they end up with Daly
Edit: Actually it may not have been an official club statement but I'm fairly sure Budge said something along those lines
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-will-seek-experienced-head-coach-and-refuse-to-gamble-1-4520482
Mick O'Rourke
23-08-2017, 11:58 AM
Talking about Sergio on KB, I had to have a wee smirk at this comment:
"Lets not forget he managed through a period of absolute chaos.. I'd like to see what he could achieve now that we are stable" :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:
Stable is the key word there.
The nearest that club is to anything stable at present, can be found over the road at Gorgie Farm.
1van Sprou7e
23-08-2017, 12:01 PM
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-will-seek-experienced-head-coach-and-refuse-to-gamble-1-4520482
Good lad
Jack Hackett
23-08-2017, 12:04 PM
Can't believe that Hearts fans will be happy with either Hartley or Pressley. If they were not ex players they wouldn't be in the running. They should just appoint Potter and take the flak. Neither PH nor SP would take on the assistant job so that would go to John Daly.
Happy or not, they'll take what they're given... Just like every other time they've been royally shafted.
Keith_M
23-08-2017, 12:10 PM
They could do worse than re-appointing Neilson.
I actually thought he had a very decent success rate in the league and his only downfall was a poor return against Hibs... although in many Hearts Fans eyes, that is the be-all & end-all
G B Young
23-08-2017, 12:13 PM
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-will-seek-experienced-head-coach-and-refuse-to-gamble-1-4520482
To be fair to Barry Anderson, the 'experienced coach' line was widely reported at the time, but as somebody else has pointed out on this thread Barry is being continually blindsided by Hearts every time he tries to provide a scoop on the madcap goings on.
A classic 'allisbarry' intro to his latest feature by the way:
"Confounding sceptics is all part of the fun at Hearts right now as players respond to their interim management team of Jon Daly, Austin MacPhee and Liam Fox..."
Smartie
23-08-2017, 12:19 PM
Didn't they release a statement after Cathro was sacked that stated they'd be appointing a manager with experience?
Anyone have a link to said statement? Will be great wind up material if they end up with Daly
Edit: Actually it may not have been an official club statement but I'm fairly sure Budge said something along those lines
Experience is a slightly vague term though and this statement was probably a veiled dig at Cathro.
Daly may not have management experience but he has some coaching experience, and well over a decade of being in different dressing rooms playing under different managers.
Cathro's main problem was that he was never going to have any credibility in the eyes of the players. I don't think Daly would have that problem.
I don't see why they haven't just appointed Daly. He has a decent reputation as a young coach and is prepared to work under Levein.
They're not going to get anyone better who fills their remit and I think they're just pissing about, going through the motions and allowing the fans to whip themselves into a frenzy over unrealistic targets.
Smartie
23-08-2017, 12:20 PM
They could do worse than re-appointing Neilson.
I actually thought he had a very decent success rate in the league and his only downfall was a poor return against Hibs... although in many Hearts Fans eyes, that is the be-all & end-all
Neilson had an excellent record and was hounded out off the back of one bad result.
Until they sort that type of thinking out, they'll continue to get nowhere.
Springbank
23-08-2017, 12:40 PM
Experience is a slightly vague term though and this statement was probably a veiled dig at Cathro.
Daly may not have management experience but he has some coaching experience, and well over a decade of being in different dressing rooms playing under different managers.
Cathro's main problem was that he was never going to have any credibility in the eyes of the players. I don't think Daly would have that problem.
I don't see why they haven't just appointed Daly. He has a decent reputation as a young coach and is prepared to work under Levein.
They're not going to get anyone better who fills their remit and I think they're just pissing about, going through the motions and allowing the fans to whip themselves over a frenzy over unrealistic targets.
...not to forget, though, the length of time they are taking is providing ample opportunity for managers with an international track record to talk Hearts up, then talk Hearts down again.
Billy Davies has been my favourite so far. Hopefully 2 more weeks of dirty linen being aired in public before Daly is appointed
1van Sprou7e
23-08-2017, 12:44 PM
They could do worse than re-appointing Neilson.
I actually thought he had a very decent success rate in the league and his only downfall was a poor return against Hibs... although in many Hearts Fans eyes, that is the be-all & end-all
Of course, Neilson did a great job for them. Truly bizarre how quickly they turned on him
However I have heard a few jambos saying it's obvious that Levein was having a big say in the tactics towards the end of his tenure. How true this is I don't know but it does help explain both why the fans got sick of him and why he was so quick to jump ship to MK dons
Hibbyradge
23-08-2017, 12:57 PM
If they were going to appoint Pressley or Hartley, why wait till after the Motherwell game?
heidtheba
23-08-2017, 01:09 PM
Bring back Malofeev, or any of the strange people that vlad plucked from the managerial merry go round he presided over. The whole period was chaos, the idiot believers just couldn't or wouldn't see what was going on.
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Thank goodness that's been sorted out now eh...
pahahah
Deansy
23-08-2017, 01:10 PM
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-will-seek-experienced-head-coach-and-refuse-to-gamble-1-4520482
An aticle penned by 'All-is' isn't so much a report on the actual state of things at the PBS but more like a 'Letter to Santa' pleading for how he'd love things to be at the PBS ! If the EEN actually pays him for his 'work' then that rag is further down the tubes than many think !
IWasThere2016
23-08-2017, 01:43 PM
If they were going to appoint Pressley or Hartley, why wait till after the Motherwell game?
Look after the pennies... :wink:
Jack Hackett
23-08-2017, 02:53 PM
If they were going to appoint Pressley or Hartley, why wait till after the Motherwell game?
Only 3 days left for the new manager to waste cash they don't have.
Sioux
23-08-2017, 03:10 PM
No matter who gets appointed, within a few short hours the great pretenders will have proclaimed that this new manager is exactly what hertz need and is well equipped to make the small changes required to hoist them to the top of Scottish Football.
Dalianwanda
23-08-2017, 03:14 PM
No matter who gets appointed, within a few short hours the great pretenders will have proclaimed that this new manager is exactly what hertz need and is well equipped to make the small changes required to hoist them to the top of Scottish Football.
haha..spot on..plenty saying that already without knowing who it will be
Billy Whizz
23-08-2017, 03:42 PM
Only 3 days left for the new manager to waste cash they don't have.
The manager doesn't choose the players anyway, so little difference when they appoint a new head coach
Eyrie
23-08-2017, 06:59 PM
Stable is the key word there.
The nearest that club is to anything stable at present, can be found over the road at Gorgie Farm.
What about the donkeys on the pitch?
vuefrom1875
23-08-2017, 07:16 PM
The manager doesn't choose the players anyway, so little difference when they appoint a new head coach
Money pileing on Potter for the gig... Get in 4/1...I'm sure Queen Budge would fancy a bit of that 😉😉😉
Ozyhibby
24-08-2017, 07:25 AM
Ground getting prepared for Daly. Skint. [emoji23]
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-would-command-respect-if-appointed-hearts-boss-1-4540515
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ian cruise
24-08-2017, 07:28 AM
Ground getting prepared for Daly. Skint. [emoji23]
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-would-command-respect-if-appointed-hearts-boss-1-4540515
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I couldn't even get through that whole article, it's a mixture or propaganda and dross. If I was a Hearts fan I'd be worried about this positive spin for someone who's achieved nothing since being in temp charge. Luckily I'm not so not my problem.
Sean1875
24-08-2017, 09:43 AM
I couldn't even get through that whole article, it's a mixture or propaganda and dross. If I was a Hearts fan I'd be worried about this positive spin for someone who's achieved nothing since being in temp charge. Luckily I'm not so not my problem.
The hilarious thing is that it appears to be between Daly and Elvis - neither of which I've heard any yams actually want :faf: No manager with any common sense would be going anywhere near that club.
G B Young
24-08-2017, 09:47 AM
Ground getting prepared for Daly. Skint. [emoji23]
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-would-command-respect-if-appointed-hearts-boss-1-4540515
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“I know for a fact that Jon wouldn’t take a job if he wasn’t going to be in full control,” said Conway. “He wouldn’t do that. He’d be his own man."
If that's true then Daly must already have the job. How else would the signing of the back-up keeper be sanctioned? Either that or he's rejected the job due to signings being made behind his back!
Hibbyradge
24-08-2017, 09:51 AM
Ground getting prepared for Daly. Skint. [emoji23]
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-would-command-respect-if-appointed-hearts-boss-1-4540515
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“I know for a fact that Jon wouldn’t take a job if he wasn’t going to be in full control”
I love these kind of "facts".
My money is on Presley withdrawing today. Hartley on Monday. Daly appointed as last man stAnding on Tuesday
Cue hearts fans saying that's who they wanted all along
“I know for a fact that Jon wouldn’t take a job if he wasn’t going to be in full control”
I love these kind of "facts".
"Here, Jon. Pop down the stairs and give this piece of paper to Ian."
"Yes, boss."
Beefster
24-08-2017, 11:24 AM
Ground getting prepared for Daly. Skint. [emoji23]
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-would-command-respect-if-appointed-hearts-boss-1-4540515
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Looks like it. Bottom of the BBC article, he's talking as if he's been promised it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41034552
Springbank
24-08-2017, 11:51 AM
"Here, Jon. Pop down the stairs and give this piece of paper to Ian."
"Yes, boss."
Yes boss. Will do. But only because I choose to. I am my own man. Craig Conway told me.
Deansy
24-08-2017, 12:17 PM
No matter who gets appointed, within a few short hours the great pretenders will have proclaimed that this new manager is exactly what hertz need and is well equipped to make the small changes required to hoist them to the top of Scottish Football.
Presumably you meant 'hoist them back to the top of Scottish Football' ??
1van Sprou7e
24-08-2017, 12:25 PM
Jon Daly still 3/1 on skybet, looks a decent shout
Sioux
24-08-2017, 12:39 PM
Jon Daly still 3/1 on skybet, looks a decent shout
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California-Hibs
24-08-2017, 12:48 PM
Imagine having Jon effin Daly as your manager 🙈
Bostonhibby
24-08-2017, 01:06 PM
Imagine having Jon effin Daly as your manager [emoji85]World famous though. They've searched extensively, some yam was telling us it's like all "big companies" do they have to go through a process apparently.
All that time and effort only for Potter to find the next fall guy was stuck to the sole of his shoe all along.
My family yam is not a happy bunny at all but he is really unhappy about the prospect of Daly especially as "we are entitled to think bigger than the water carrier"!?
Fingers crossed they go for the budget option and try to spin it the same way they did father dougal.
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Springbank
24-08-2017, 01:46 PM
Assuming the Water Carrier gets the job in Sept 2017, what are the odds of Austin MacPhee being hearts manager by March 2018?
The Yam Circle of Life, with a cast of:
Mufasa - cathro
Simba - John Daly
Nala - Austin MacPhee
Rafiki - Medals Mackay
Uncle Scar - Craig Levein
Timone & Poombaa - Anne Budge & lord foulkes
Crazyhorse
24-08-2017, 02:26 PM
Imagine having Jon effin Daly as your manager 🙈
He's bound to be a lot better than Cathy. Their squad is pretty poor overall but I'm not worried about them at the moment - we need to regroup after the Hamilton game and get back to competing properly.
Just Alf
24-08-2017, 07:45 PM
I REALLY need it to be Daly. My skybet account is at zero and I've got £10 on him at 18/1.... Otherwise I need to wait until the end of the season when we win the league! :-)
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Viva_Palmeiras
24-08-2017, 07:53 PM
Colleague with a relative playing for the Yams said as reported those with more managerial experience came in took a look at setup then declined because of Potter. Reckons it'll be a yes man either Pressley or Hartley but they'll go nowhere fast until Potter departs was his view. I was surprised he viewed the Riccarton 2 as yes men but there you go.
Pleasing...
HoboHarry
24-08-2017, 07:55 PM
Colleague with a relative playing for the Yams said as reported those with more managerial experience came in took a look at setup then declined because of Potter. Reckons it'll be a yes man either Pressley or Hartley but they'll go nowhere fast until Potter departs was his view.
Pleasing...
Not entirely sure that either Pressley or Hartley are yes men. They may be cheaper than Billy Davies et al but I could foresee Pressley in particular falling out with Potter pretty quickly.....
macca70
24-08-2017, 08:14 PM
I reckon there's a fairly big chance Daly gets it on a permanent basis or some sort of extended temporary basis to end of season then they reassess where they are.
Yam at work suggesting it will be Archibald with them not needing to pay compensation as he will resign!! Cannot see Atchibald doing that as it would taint his reputation!!
Neilson won't be back as he hates Levein and is one of the reasons he left!
Deansy
24-08-2017, 09:20 PM
Yam at work suggesting it will be Archibald with them not needing to pay compensation as he will resign!! Cannot see Atchibald doing that as it would taint his reputation!!
Neilson won't be back as he hates Levein and is one of the reasons he left!
1) Resigning or not wouldn't make any difference - compensation would still be due to PT as he'd be leaving one club to take up a position with a rival club.
2) Aye right, the Jambo job's that big a draw he's gonna resign just so he can take it ?? -this will be just another JKB 'Wish' post turning into 'Fact' !
1) Resigning or not wouldn't make any difference - compensation would still be due to PT as he'd be leaving one club to take up a position with a rival club. 2) Aye right, the Jambo job's that big a draw he's gonna resign just so he can take it ?? -this will be just another JKB 'Wish' post turning into 'Fact' !
I tried pointing this out however the are a BIG attraction etc with club moving forward with new stand etc o and at this point I mentioned running up £15 million in debt and counting to be told I was lying.
Another head in the sand yam whose just doesn't get it!
I am jealous of everything they are trying to do as a club that is steeped in history... I laughed again pointing out Admin and the bumping of charities etc. Yeah I'm jealous of that NOT.
The conversation stopped dead.
I even offered him a wager that Archibald wouldn't be next manager. He was that confident he didn't take be up on it!
Deansy
25-08-2017, 06:13 AM
I tried pointing this out however the are a BIG attraction etc with club moving forward with new stand etc o and at this point I mentioned running up £15 million in debt and counting to be told I was lying.
Another head in the sand yam whose just doesn't get it!
I am jealous of everything they are trying to do as a club that is steeped in history... I laughed again pointing out Admin and the bumping of charities etc. Yeah I'm jealous of that NOT.
The conversation stopped dead.
I even offered him a wager that Archibald wouldn't be next manager. He was that confident he didn't take be up on it!
Shocker - a Jambo not man enough to back-up the keech he's slavering !
Andy74
25-08-2017, 07:47 AM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
Bostonhibby
25-08-2017, 08:04 AM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.Crap, looking like she's beginning to check up on what she's getting for her money. Seeing if her gruesome twosome are just talking the talk?
Pray for Potter and the apprentice.
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easty
25-08-2017, 08:15 AM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
Have you just made this up? That cannae be true, surely no?
Edit - just saw the article on Evening News site. That's incredible.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-hopes-ann-budge-meetings-are-key-to-hearts-job-1-4541587
Bostonhibby
25-08-2017, 09:14 AM
Have you just made this up? That cannae be true, surely no?
Edit - just saw the article on Evening News site. That's incredible.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-hopes-ann-budge-meetings-are-key-to-hearts-job-1-4541587Performance management.
What are you going to do to improve?
How are you going to do it?
How will we check the results?
Clocks ticking.
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Treadstone
25-08-2017, 09:15 AM
EEN really pulling out all the stops testing the water for Daly getting appointed.
G B Young
25-08-2017, 09:30 AM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
Vlad-esque, just without the fax machine to send the team list.
jacomo
25-08-2017, 09:43 AM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
Bet she asks them to wear shorts and cops a feel of their biceps too.
Mad OB.
Deansy
25-08-2017, 10:08 AM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
So she knows exactly how gash they're gonna be BEFORE every game ??. Fair dues to her, she still goes to their games .................................... just now !
Sioux
25-08-2017, 10:15 AM
1) Resigning or not wouldn't make any difference - compensation would still be due to PT as he'd be leaving one club to take up a position with a rival club.
2) Aye right, the Jambo job's that big a draw he's gonna resign just so he can take it ?? -this will be just another JKB 'Wish' post turning into 'Fact' !
1. If Archibald resigned his post, that's got nothing to do with hertz. He'll be in breach of contract and PT would call him out on that. He may well have to compensate PT.
2. On the other hand if there is an agreement between hertz and PT to the extent that Archibald will be released from his contract, PT will do so on the basis that hertz pay compensation for the loss of a 'critical employee'.
Hertz could of course reimburse Archibald for the amount in '1', but they could also say that if Archibald wants to come to a really big club and earn rellay big money, he'll need to deal with PT. Overall he'll be better off professionally and financially. I'd never rule that out.
Either way, as you suggest, the hertz flumps will make up any old **** in their never ending pretence of importance, or is that impotence.
Hibzbollah
25-08-2017, 12:05 PM
Jon Daly explaining how the Budge regime is perfect for him...
The Irishman said: “Billy’s had an interview and I’m sure he’s had the structure explained to him. He obviously likes working with a different structure, so he’s entitled to his opinion.
“But it’s a structure that, in my opinion, is very good. It’s geared towards helping younger coaches and also younger players come through into the first team.
“The main reason I retired from football was to come into that structure. I would probably have played on for another couple of years if I hadn’t been offered this opportunity. I don’t think I would have taken a coaching role at that stage of my career had it been anywhere else other than Hearts.
“The model of the club was set in place after they’d come through a very difficult period and it’s something that has worked previously. I don’t see why, after a difficult seven or eight months, they should change that.”
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15495295.Jon_Daly_hits_back_at_Billy_Davies__39_s_ criticism_of_Hearts/
“I went down to see her on Friday but we never had an interview or anything like that. Ann takes an active interest in the football, so Robbie [Neilson] used to go and speak to her and explain, and Ian as well. Being in charge at the minute, I am happy to do the same. It keeps An in the loop on the football side. “She is very interested in the football side of things and how everything works, so it’s just to show her this is the training we have done; this is what we have done in terms of leading towards the game; these are the areas we feel we can get at the opposition and the areas we feel we need to be wary of. “So it’s just to give her a rundown and show her what we’ve explained to the players.
Read more at: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-hopes-ann-budge-meetings-are-key-to-hearts-job-1-4541587
How any decent manager could object to this set up is clearly beyond the wit of our cap doffing neighbours. Daly is obviously perfect for the job.
JimBHibees
25-08-2017, 02:03 PM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
Really wow no self respecting manager would do that IMO.
Very vladesque.
blackpoolhibs
25-08-2017, 02:30 PM
So hopefully we will go from the Dalry Lama to the Daly Lama.
lord bunberry
25-08-2017, 02:46 PM
So Jon Daly tells us this morning that the management team have to meet with Ann Budge every week before a match to talk her through the plan, tactics and what they have been doing at training so she knows what to look for during the game.
Mental, that's a step further on from Levein's interference.
It's an utterly bizarre set up they have. The modern way of doing things seems to be that the club recruits the players and the manager then takes things from there. Hearts seem to have taken things a step further with potter coming into the dressing room and sending notes down to the manager, and now we hear that the manager has to run things past budgie before the game. It's like they're trying to do things in a military manner.
lord bunberry
25-08-2017, 02:54 PM
So hopefully we will go from the Dalry Lama to the Daly Lama.
The daly fail
john the saptist
bible john
Hibbyradge
25-08-2017, 02:54 PM
So hopefully we will go from the Dalry Lama to the Daly Lama.
:top marks
Hibee87
25-08-2017, 02:58 PM
It's an utterly bizarre set up they have. The modern way of doing things seems to be that the club recruits the players and the manager then takes things from there. Hearts seem to have taken things a step further with potter coming into the dressing room and sending notes down to the manager, and now we hear that the manager has to run things past budgie before the game. It's like they're trying to do things in a military manner.The thing with Budge is she is a business woman, and a successful one by all accounts. But running a football club is not like running an I.T company where things would have regularly been ran past her.
She is in a bit of a situation where she should really be handing the reigns over to the FOH as is what is meant/going to happen eventually but she cant oversee her investment. In an ideal world for them she would have put up the capitol and remained firmly in the background.
So, she has to have some input to make sure she isint going to loose her money, which is fair enough, but by doing what she only knows is actually hampering them. Its effing hillarious watching it all unfold though :greengrin
lord bunberry
25-08-2017, 03:19 PM
The thing with Budge is she is a business woman, and a successful one by all accounts. But running a football club is not like running an I.T company where things would have regularly been ran past her.
She is in a bit of a situation where she should really be handing the reigns over to the FOH as is what is meant/going to happen eventually but she cant oversee her investment. In an ideal world for them she would have put up the capitol and remained firmly in the background.
So, she has to have some input to make sure she isint going to loose her money, which is fair enough, but by doing what she only knows is actually hampering them. Its effing hillarious watching it all unfold though :greengrin
I think she's got the taste for being a football club owner. She's spending the idiots money like it's going out of fashion knowing full well that the more she spends, the longer it takes the lunatics to gain control of the asylum.
Hibee87
25-08-2017, 03:23 PM
I think she's got the taste for being a football club owner. She's spending the idiots money like it's going out of fashion knowing full well that the more she spends, the longer it takes the lunatics to gain control of the asylum.SHe will get the full taste of being a club owner when she appoints the next muppet. Dlay has a fair shout after she promised them experience, and when it all goes tits up AGAIN she will feel the full force of the 'gorgie faithfull'. Hat kicking, scarf throwing, not buying the chips. the lot. Fun times ma pal
lord bunberry
25-08-2017, 03:26 PM
SHe will get the full taste of being a club owner when she appoints the next muppet. Dlay has a fair shout after she promised them experience, and when it all goes tits up AGAIN she will feel the full force of the 'gorgie faithfull'. Hat kicking, scarf throwing, not buying the chips. the lot. Fun times ma pal
They might even start referring to her as Anne Budge instead of Mrs Budge. The games up for her when that happens :greengrin
G B Young
25-08-2017, 04:22 PM
Stockton following Daly's lead in blasting Cathro's training methods. Probably hoping to get more game time under Daly:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41052734
Bottom line is that Cathro clearly commanded zero respect among the squad.
Peevemor
25-08-2017, 04:47 PM
I don't see the problem with Budge getting a weekly briefing from the manager. If the DOF and the manager are really 2 distinct appointments, then there has to be some sort of overview.
lord bunberry
25-08-2017, 04:59 PM
I don't see the problem with Budge getting a weekly briefing from the manager. If the DOF and the manager are really 2 distinct appointments, then there has to be some sort of overview.
How many other clubs in world football do you think operate like that?
It's a managers job to coach the team, the dof should be the one briefing the owner.
easty
25-08-2017, 05:22 PM
The thing with Budge is she is a business woman, and a successful one by all accounts. But running a football club is not like running an I.T company where things would have regularly been ran past her.
She is in a bit of a situation where she should really be handing the reigns over to the FOH as is what is meant/going to happen eventually but she cant oversee her investment. In an ideal world for them she would have put up the capitol and remained firmly in the background.
So, she has to have some input to make sure she isint going to loose her money, which is fair enough, but by doing what she only knows is actually hampering them. Its effing hillarious watching it all unfold though :greengrin
Odd that the business women is so keen to be involved in the football side so regularly, yet on the actual business side of things they managed to start building a stand without any seats being ordered.
Velma Dinkley
25-08-2017, 05:33 PM
Odd that the business women is so keen to be involved in the football side so regularly, yet on the actual business side of things they managed to start building a stand without any seats being ordered.
And without the money to build it.
Peevemor
25-08-2017, 05:34 PM
How many other clubs in world football do you think operate like that?
It's a managers job to coach the team, the dof should be the one briefing the owner.Surely the person running the club has to ensure that both the DOF and manager are doing their jobs properly. If everything is funnelled through the DOF alone, the overall boss won't be getting an accurate global view.
Deansy
25-08-2017, 05:45 PM
Jon Daly explaining how the Budge regime is perfect for him...
The Irishman said: “Billy’s had an interview and I’m sure he’s had the structure explained to him. He obviously likes working with a different structure, so he’s entitled to his opinion.
“But it’s a structure that, in my opinion, is very good. It’s geared towards helping younger coaches and also younger players come through into the first team.
“The main reason I retired from football was to come into that structure. I would probably have played on for another couple of years if I hadn’t been offered this opportunity. I don’t think I would have taken a coaching role at that stage of my career had it been anywhere else other than Hearts.
“The model of the club was set in place after they’d come through a very difficult period and it’s something that has worked previously. I don’t see why, after a difficult seven or eight months, they should change that.”
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15495295.Jon_Daly_hits_back_at_Billy_Davies__39_s_ criticism_of_Hearts/
“I went down to see her on Friday but we never had an interview or anything like that. Ann takes an active interest in the football, so Robbie [Neilson] used to go and speak to her and explain, and Ian as well. Being in charge at the minute, I am happy to do the same. It keeps An in the loop on the football side. “She is very interested in the football side of things and how everything works, so it’s just to show her this is the training we have done; this is what we have done in terms of leading towards the game; these are the areas we feel we can get at the opposition and the areas we feel we need to be wary of. “So it’s just to give her a rundown and show her what we’ve explained to the players.
Read more at: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-hopes-ann-budge-meetings-are-key-to-hearts-job-1-4541587
How any decent manager could object to this set up is clearly beyond the wit of our cap doffing neighbours. Daly is obviously perfect for the job.
No matter who it is from the PBS - owner/manager/player/fan/charity-money thief etc, etc - they've always got to get that 'Uniquely Hearts' thing into their interviews, like they've discovered the footballing equivalent of 'Turning lead into gold' and only Hearts are capable of it !. Example - 'I don’t think I would have taken a coaching role at that stage of my career had it been anywhere else other than Hearts' - as if Tynecastle has replaced the 'Emerald City' as the only place where magic truly happens !!??? .The general gist of their interviews, must make Septic consider themselves extremely lucky that they manage to squeeze in the odd, occasional title considering what they're up against from those at the PBS !
Of course reality paints a completely different picture - it's a reality that shows that Hearts had WON NO MAJOR HONOURS since the 1950's until Wallace Merger arrived and started their 'Money years' (Cheating !) where they went through over £100,000,000 - yup - over ONE HUNDRED MILLION POUNDS - just to 'win' 3 Scottish Cups in 30+ years !
lord bunberry
25-08-2017, 05:53 PM
Surely the person running the club has to ensure that both the DOF and manager are doing their jobs properly. If everything is funnelled through the DOF alone, the overall boss won't be getting an accurate global view.
I disagree. There's no point in appointing a dof if you can't trust them to report football matters to you. Surely that's his role at the club.
SuperAllyMcleod
25-08-2017, 07:26 PM
No matter who it is from the PBS - owner/manager/player/fan/charity-money thief etc, etc - they've always got to get that 'Uniquely Hearts' thing into their interviews, like they've discovered the footballing equivalent of 'Turning lead into gold' and only Hearts are capable of it !. Example - 'I don’t think I would have taken a coaching role at that stage of my career had it been anywhere else other than Hearts' - as if Tynecastle has replaced the 'Emerald City' as the only place where magic truly happens !!??? .The general gist of their interviews, must make Septic consider themselves extremely lucky that they manage to squeeze in the odd, occasional title considering what they're up against from those at the PBS !
Of course reality paints a completely different picture - it's a reality that shows that Hearts had WON NO MAJOR HONOURS since the 1950's until Wallace Merger arrived and started their 'Money years' (Cheating !) where they went through over £100,000,000 - yup - over ONE HUNDRED MILLION POUNDS - just to 'win' 3 Scottish Cups in 30+ years !
They won the League Cup in 1962 - at least 56 years until they win it again. [emoji3]
CyberSauzee
25-08-2017, 08:27 PM
Vlad-esque, just without the fax machine to send the team list.
Doubt they can afford a fax machine these days.
Besides, there's no need. Simply hand a scribbled note to a lackey and tell him to run down to the dugout.
Bostonhibby
25-08-2017, 08:34 PM
Jon Daly explaining how the Budge regime is perfect for him...
The Irishman said: “Billy’s had an interview and I’m sure he’s had the structure explained to him. He obviously likes working with a different structure, so he’s entitled to his opinion.
“But it’s a structure that, in my opinion, is very good. It’s geared towards helping younger coaches and also younger players come through into the first team.
“The main reason I retired from football was to come into that structure. I would probably have played on for another couple of years if I hadn’t been offered this opportunity. I don’t think I would have taken a coaching role at that stage of my career had it been anywhere else other than Hearts.
“The model of the club was set in place after they’d come through a very difficult period and it’s something that has worked previously. I don’t see why, after a difficult seven or eight months, they should change that.”
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15495295.Jon_Daly_hits_back_at_Billy_Davies__39_s_ criticism_of_Hearts/
“I went down to see her on Friday but we never had an interview or anything like that. Ann takes an active interest in the football, so Robbie [Neilson] used to go and speak to her and explain, and Ian as well. Being in charge at the minute, I am happy to do the same. It keeps An in the loop on the football side. “She is very interested in the football side of things and how everything works, so it’s just to show her this is the training we have done; this is what we have done in terms of leading towards the game; these are the areas we feel we can get at the opposition and the areas we feel we need to be wary of. “So it’s just to give her a rundown and show her what we’ve explained to the players.
Read more at: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-hopes-ann-budge-meetings-are-key-to-hearts-job-1-4541587
How any decent manager could object to this set up is clearly beyond the wit of our cap doffing neighbours. Daly is obviously perfect for the job.Deary me, where to begin? Actually don't bother going too deep.
What part of the signing policy Potter imposed on father dougal helped the development of young players?
What part of how they brought in and managed dougal out helped with the development of young managers?
Daly was there when this was happening. Come on Mrs Budge, you know it makes sense for the next couple of months.
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Deansy
25-08-2017, 08:36 PM
They won the League Cup in 1962 - at least 56 years until they win it again. [emoji3]
Ah but the League-cup's NOT a major honour according to them, remember, they consider it a 'Diddy-cup' ...................................... unless they win it, of course !
SuperAllyMcleod
25-08-2017, 10:14 PM
Ah but the League-cup's NOT a major honour according to them, remember, they consider it a 'Diddy-cup' ...................................... unless they win it, of course !
Yeah, but I'm assuming you are a Hibby, therefore it is one of the three major honours that can be won.
I really don't get this 'diddy' cup mentality - basically saying that the only thing they want to win is the Scottish Cup because they won't win the league and they're not interested in the League Cup.
Given that they've only won two games in the Scottish Cup since 2012 then you'd think that they would rethink that idea.
Deansy
25-08-2017, 10:43 PM
Yeah, but I'm assuming you are a Hibby, therefore it is one of the three major honours that can be won.
I really don't get this 'diddy' cup mentality - basically saying that the only thing they want to win is the Scottish Cup because they won't win the league and they're not interested in the League Cup.
Given that they've only won two games in the Scottish Cup since 2012 then you'd think that they would rethink that idea.
Course I'm a Hibee - I was merely pointing out their arrogance and hypocrisy because you can be damn sure that if, by some miracle, they won the League-cup, it's status would be elevated overnight to on a par with the European Champions League Trophy !!
I'd NEVER refer to it as a 'Diddy-cup' as having attended 72-73, 91-92 and 2006-2007 I've far too many happy, warm and lovely memories of these matches !
Tornadoes70
25-08-2017, 10:52 PM
The Yams yearn to lift the League Cup! Its only worthless cause they (Yams) haven't won it since 1962. If it was the other way around they'd probs have umpteen songs reminding us about it. HOW MANY YEARS YAMS? :na na:
pacorosssco
26-08-2017, 01:19 AM
Its been said already but Levein is fudge ing the budge. Did she run company as bad....
Ozyhibby
26-08-2017, 04:55 PM
Kickback is fun tonight. They want their new manager sacked before he is even appointed.[emoji23]
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emerald green
26-08-2017, 05:12 PM
How about bringing back agent Cathro? Go for it Hertz I say.
Is It On....
26-08-2017, 05:45 PM
Apparently a club their size needs to show "more ambition" than someone like Tommy Wright.
Sioux
26-08-2017, 06:12 PM
A big problem they seem to have is that any new manager will need to work with the current coaching staff. Most managers want to bring in thier own, whether one or two, but that doesn't seem possible under their world class blueprint that's in place.
Oh, and the fact they've got no dosh.
Jack Hackett
26-08-2017, 06:58 PM
A big problem they seem to have is that any new manager will need to work with the current coaching staff. Most managers want to bring in thier own, whether one or two, but that doesn't seem possible under their world class blueprint that's in place.
Oh, and the fact they've got no dosh.
The really big problem they have is that they are hertz
jacomo
26-08-2017, 07:07 PM
Apparently a club their size needs to show "more ambition" than someone like Tommy Wright.
Oh dear.
Tommy Wright would be a stellar appointment for them.
Joe6-2
26-08-2017, 07:18 PM
Jon Daly explaining how the Budge regime is perfect for him...
The Irishman said: “Billy’s had an interview and I’m sure he’s had the structure explained to him. He obviously likes working with a different structure, so he’s entitled to his opinion.
“But it’s a structure that, in my opinion, is very good. It’s geared towards helping younger coaches and also younger players come through into the first team.
“The main reason I retired from football was to come into that structure. I would probably have played on for another couple of years if I hadn’t been offered this opportunity. I don’t think I would have taken a coaching role at that stage of my career had it been anywhere else other than Hearts.
“The model of the club was set in place after they’d come through a very difficult period and it’s something that has worked previously. I don’t see why, after a difficult seven or eight months, they should change that.”
http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/football/15495295.Jon_Daly_hits_back_at_Billy_Davies__39_s_ criticism_of_Hearts/
“I went down to see her on Friday but we never had an interview or anything like that. Ann takes an active interest in the football, so Robbie [Neilson] used to go and speak to her and explain, and Ian as well. Being in charge at the minute, I am happy to do the same. It keeps An in the loop on the football side. “She is very interested in the football side of things and how everything works, so it’s just to show her this is the training we have done; this is what we have done in terms of leading towards the game; these are the areas we feel we can get at the opposition and the areas we feel we need to be wary of. “So it’s just to give her a rundown and show her what we’ve explained to the players.
Read more at: http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/jon-daly-hopes-ann-budge-meetings-are-key-to-hearts-job-1-4541587
How any decent manager could object to this set up is clearly beyond the wit of our cap doffing neighbours. Daly is obviously perfect for the job.
Absolute brown noser!!
Beefster
26-08-2017, 07:26 PM
I disagree. There's no point in appointing a dof if you can't trust them to report football matters to you. Surely that's his role at the club.
Any exec that only speaks to their direct reports is a very poor exec.
SirDavidsNapper
26-08-2017, 07:32 PM
Apparently a club their size needs to show "more ambition" than someone like Tommy Wright.
Tommy Wright would be an outstanding appointment. Think he's too head strong for that gig though. Plus the yams couldn't afford him.
Tommy Wright would be an outstanding appointment. Think he's too head strong for that gig though. Plus the yams couldn't afford him.
And why would he want to tarnish his reputation as a good manager/coach?
SirDavidsNapper
27-08-2017, 12:23 AM
And why would he want to tarnish his reputation as a good manager/coach?
Yeah. I don't think he'd leave St Johnstone for Hearts. Bigger jobs will come up like when McInnes eventually leaves the sheep.
cabbageandribs1875
27-08-2017, 12:56 AM
Falkirk joint bottom with Brechin.....houston could become available soon
FilipinoHibs
27-08-2017, 01:30 AM
A big problem they seem to have is that any new manager will need to work with the current coaching staff. Most managers want to bring in thier own, whether one or two, but that doesn't seem possible under their world class blueprint that's in place.
Oh, and the fact they've got no dosh.
Has to be a desperate out of work manager!
andybev1
27-08-2017, 02:27 AM
Absolute brown noser!!
Exactly what I thought. I used to work with a guy just like that - always halfway up the manager's arse, F&*k I hate people like that - I hope he gets his wish.
percy veer
27-08-2017, 08:16 AM
Yeah, but I'm assuming you are a Hibby, therefore it is one of the three major honours that can be won.
I really don't get this 'diddy' cup mentality - basically saying that the only thing they want to win is the Scottish Cup because they won't win the league and they're not interested in the League Cup.
Given that they've only won two games in the Scottish Cup since 2012 then you'd think that they would rethink that idea.
Are you sure its that many I know they beat Aberdeen who was the other
greenginger
27-08-2017, 08:19 AM
Are you sure its that many I know they beat Aberdeen who was the other
Raith in a replay, although Cathy thought he was beating them again. :greengrin
oneone73
27-08-2017, 08:20 AM
Are you sure its that many I know they beat Aberdeen who was the other
Raith Rovers.
NORTHERNHIBBY
27-08-2017, 08:26 AM
Yeah. I don't think he'd leave St Johnstone for Hearts. Bigger jobs will come up like when McInnes eventually leaves the sheep.
Heard a bit on Sportsound yesterday and Wright has made it clear that he would not touch this one. It's not the size of the club or whether it is or isn't a step up that is the issue.
HFCdeb
27-08-2017, 10:21 AM
Raith in a replay, although Cathy thought he was beating them again. :greengrin
I miss him so much :(
greenlex
27-08-2017, 07:30 PM
There is no way they will/can will spend money on this appointment. It's coming from within dressed up as taking their time to get the right man long term. Levein Daly Locke. Take yer pick or committee of all theee plus the nanny.
1van Sprou7e
27-08-2017, 07:36 PM
There is no way they will/can will spend money on this appointment. It's coming from within dressed up as taking their time to get the right man long term. Levein Daly Locke. Take yer pick or committee of all theee plus the nanny.
Even they aren't stupid enough to appoint Locke again, unfortunately
Cod Boy
27-08-2017, 08:04 PM
Daly and Levien to be announced tomorrow or Tuesday.
Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 08:07 PM
Daly and Levien to be announced tomorrow or Tuesday.
Craigie boy Daly's assistant😄
Craigie boy Daly's assistant😄
You mean he'll have to takes his notes from the stand to the dugout himself??!!
Billy Whizz
27-08-2017, 08:11 PM
You mean he'll have to takes his notes from the stand to the dugout himself??!!
Must be a song in that somewhere😄
SmithyHibee
27-08-2017, 09:33 PM
Daly and Levien to be announced tomorrow or Tuesday.
Levein in as manager?
Cod Boy
27-08-2017, 09:47 PM
Levein in as manager?
Levien head coach Daly assistant
Heisenberg
27-08-2017, 10:01 PM
He made a mess of finding a new manager so he's stepping up? How noble. He won't be able to deal with being responsible for the mess of a team on the pitch. He's been in charge for a while now but had Cathro/Daly to hide behind.
So Craig Levein now has to dirty his hands and become accountable for the football on the park.
He won't like the spotlight, the press can't stand him and will be sharping the knives already and he hasn't exactly got a good record in management (zero trophies).
So I wonder where that leaves the CL/AB model and 3 year plan. Down the river quicker than you can say GMS get out of the water you tool.
HoboHarry
27-08-2017, 11:31 PM
Daly and Levien to be announced tomorrow or Tuesday.
Where is this information coming from?
jgl07
27-08-2017, 11:32 PM
He made a mess of finding a new manager so he's stepping up? How noble. He won't be able to deal with being responsible for the mess of a team on the pitch. He's been in charge for a while now but had Cathro/Daly to hide behind.
I don't see Levein stepping up and taking the flack.
If Craig had wanted to be Manager, he would have been appointed by Queen Anne in the first place.
I think it will remain as Levein as DoF and Daly as Head Coach.
Levien head coach Daly assistant
What happens to their tactical expert MacPhee, punted or sidelined?
Bostonhibby
28-08-2017, 08:56 AM
What happens to their tactical expert MacPhee, punted or sidelined?He'll be doing masterclasses for the yokels still but it will be every week now until the seats are paid for.
How to get beat by peterheid - £7.50 a throw now father dougals gone.
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SirDavidsNapper
28-08-2017, 09:18 AM
Imagine restructuring your managerial set up on the advice of Billy Davies. Tinpot wee club.
Gregor
28-08-2017, 09:50 AM
Normally I couldn't care less about them, but my sheer hatred of the Pedo-Bearded Balloon means I will revel in delight as the poppy thieves squirm and hand-wring amongst themselves over whether this (re)appointment is a good or a bad thing.
I predict an open letter in the next few days. All is Barry has already made his opinion know with a few ASCII salvos over the past few weeks.
Will they row back and accept the Messiah with the **** Magician's beard then pretend is was the plan all along?
Bostonhibby
28-08-2017, 10:00 AM
Normally I couldn't care less about them, but my sheer hatred of the Pedo-Bearded Balloon means I will revel in delight as the poppy thieves squirm and hand-wring amongst themselves over whether this (re)appointment is a good or a bad thing.
I predict an open letter in the next few days. All is Barry has already made his opinion know with a few ASCII salvos over the past few weeks.
Will they row back and accept the Messiah with the **** Magician's beard then pretend is was the plan all along?Good points.
They will do what they are told and before the first game under the new dream team the Harry Potter and Arfur Daly partnership will be the one that Barcelona can only dream about.
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SirDavidsNapper
28-08-2017, 10:02 AM
They are a complete laughing stock of a club. From Cathro to their 70's office block stand, failing to order seats, to their failure to attract a manager of sufficient quality and getting their director of football back in the dugout. Couldn't make that lot up. Their support must cringe.
Betty Boop
28-08-2017, 10:10 AM
Normally I couldn't care less about them, but my sheer hatred of the Pedo-Bearded Balloon means I will revel in delight as the poppy thieves squirm and hand-wring amongst themselves over whether this (re)appointment is a good or a bad thing.
I predict an open letter in the next few days. All is Barry has already made his opinion know with a few ASCII salvos over the past few weeks.
Will they row back and accept the Messiah with the **** Magician's beard then pretend is was the plan all along?
Nae need.
Gregor
28-08-2017, 10:31 AM
Nae need.
Fair enough. Puppyfarmer Bearded Balloon. That any better?
Borderhibbie76
28-08-2017, 10:44 AM
Just had a text off a guy I know who works at riccarton saying Paul Lambert is there this morning?? Got no idea if it's anything to do with the Yams or not just thought I'd share
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Heisenberg
28-08-2017, 10:49 AM
Just had a text off a guy I know who works at riccarton saying Paul Lambert is there this morning?? Got no idea if it's anything to do with the Yams or not just thought I'd share
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Possible new DOF to ensure Craig doesn't look silly by scrapping his entire football model?
Victor
28-08-2017, 10:50 AM
I see the Evening News are already preparing the way for the Levein/Daly dream team, with the 'Fans' having their say. The highlight comment coming from a James Mullins on Twitter: “Levein is head and shoulders above all other coaches in the SPL (barring Rodgers). He would set us back on track quickly.”
As far as I am aware Craig Levein, as a manager, has won.......nothing.(In fact all the teams he has managed, excluding Scotland, have done better after he left). Apart from Brendan Rogers, Tommy Wright, Derek McInnes and Jim McIntyre have all won domestic trophies and the current Hibs manager has been 'reasonably' successful. Even if you don't count his success with Celtic, Neil Lennon has won the Scottish Championship, while Levein has won.......nothing.
Maybe the 'head and shoulders' bit relates to something else?
flash
28-08-2017, 10:51 AM
Just had a text off a guy I know who works at riccarton saying Paul Lambert is there this morning?? Got no idea if it's anything to do with the Yams or not just thought I'd share
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Please let this moron be their new manager.
FilipinoHibs
28-08-2017, 10:57 AM
Please let this moron be their new manager.
BBC reporting same rumour. Hearts fans I know hate him and his "style" of play.
Springbank
28-08-2017, 10:57 AM
Just had a text off a guy I know who works at riccarton saying Paul Lambert is there this morning?? Got no idea if it's anything to do with the Yams or not just thought I'd share
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Didn't he leave Blackburn in his last post under curious circumstances?
From working with Venky's to Levein, he'll be used to the smell of chicken shxt at his workplace, at least
Twitter rumour Paul Lambert is at Riccarton. merry-go-round continues
Just had a text off a guy I know who works at riccarton saying Paul Lambert is there this morning?? Got no idea if it's anything to do with the Yams or not just thought I'd share
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Doesn't he play Badminton there on a Monday morning.
G B Young
28-08-2017, 11:12 AM
If this drags on into midweek the new guy is going to have a matter of hours before we hit the transfer deadline. Can only assume this was the plan all along.
G B Young
28-08-2017, 11:16 AM
Doesn't he play Badminton there on a Monday morning.
Yes, he could just be there to use the gym like any other customer of Heriot-Watt, which of course is what Hearts are.
Keith_M
28-08-2017, 11:44 AM
If this drags on into midweek the new guy is going to have a matter of hours before we hit the transfer deadline. Can only assume this was the plan all along.
I think the main reason it dragged on so long was in case they appointed somebody from outside the club, it had to be after the transfer deadline, so they couldn't ask to sign players.
If Levein has appointed himself (or Daly), then that cares care of that problem.
greenginger
28-08-2017, 11:57 AM
Twitter rumour Paul Lambert is at Riccarton. merry-go-round continues
Last time lambert was in charge of a team playing Hibs at Easter Road.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_prem/4689666.stm
Livi team had a few players, Snodgrass, Dorrans , Hoolahan, all went on to have decent careers.
SHODAN
28-08-2017, 12:04 PM
Exclusive preview of Hearts' dynamic new playing style under Levein:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/53/22/20/532220e35357ac1ca8742659be5a9b3c.jpg
Deansy
28-08-2017, 12:38 PM
If the reports that Levein's their 'man' are true then it's a master-stroke from Budge as she'll finally get to know exactly what Levein's really made of AND save on an salary !!
Their supporters will at last get what they wanted from their team - fight ! .................. just not in the way that's legal !. A Levein-team will boot everything and anything moving but will still be keech !
Springbank
28-08-2017, 12:50 PM
If the reports that Levein's their 'man' are true then it's a master-stroke from Budge as she'll finally get to know exactly what Levein's really made of AND save on an salary !!
Their supporters will at last get what they wanted from their team - fight ! .................. just not in the way that's legal !. A Levein-team will boot everything and anything moving but will still be keech !
And hearts will get to keep up their now annual tradition of losing derbies, putting the boss under pressure, going out the cup early, and replacing the lame duck manager a few months later...
Smartie
28-08-2017, 12:58 PM
Anyone know what Mark Venus is up to these days?
For musical reasons only, we should be bringing him back to ER.
Firestarter
28-08-2017, 01:25 PM
Anyone know what Mark Venus is up to these days?
For musical reasons only, we should be bringing him back to ER.
😂 Neil Lennon and Mark Venus.....it fits.
silverhibee
28-08-2017, 01:33 PM
Where is this information coming from?
Creamfields.
AugustaHibs
28-08-2017, 02:11 PM
STV Paul Barnes confirms that levein is the new manager, incredible stuff.
Hibee87
28-08-2017, 02:11 PM
Just been told Levein expected to be announced shortly according to a journalist on twitter. Euan Murray I think he was called
Just been told Levein expected to be announced shortly according to a journalist on twitter. Euan Murray I think he was called
The same complete fud who yesterday was complaining that Stokes didn’t get a touch for the goal. Bizarre but nothing compared to his bitter rant about the hibs fans in the wake of the cup final.
The epitome of a complete hearts ****. Only rivalled by Levein funnily enough.
Deansy
28-08-2017, 02:16 PM
Craig Levein anounced as new manager of Hearts
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football
:faf:
MurrayfieldHibs
28-08-2017, 02:17 PM
Never saw that coming .......
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/craig-levein-announced-as-new-head-coach-of-hearts-1-4544563
SteveHFC
28-08-2017, 02:18 PM
Kickback will be on lockdown later :faf:
.Sean.
28-08-2017, 02:19 PM
😂😂😂😂😂
guthrie01
28-08-2017, 02:23 PM
"Levein has been director of football at Tynecastle for three years but has been persuaded to return to the dugout four weeks after Ian Cathro was sacked"
I'm sure he had a real hard time trying to persuade himself to take the job :rotflmao:
Bet their lot can't wait for the derby to come now, what a state they are in right now
Jim44
28-08-2017, 02:23 PM
A commendable bit of vision from Budge. :tee hee::tee hee::tee hee::tee hee::tee hee:
GreenCastle
28-08-2017, 02:25 PM
Physios around Edinburgh are loving this - sorting out all the sore necks from the hoof ball they will be playing :greengrin
Delighted it's CL - hope we hammer them and we see him crack in interviews :na na:
The club that keeps on giving :faf:
scoopyboy
28-08-2017, 02:28 PM
Cheer up Craig Levein..................
Always one of my favourites
Lancs Harp
28-08-2017, 02:29 PM
I think they should appoint Cathro as director of football now.
Lee Marvin
28-08-2017, 02:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/7v95Jae.jpg
'£100 on Craig Levein please hen.'
lapsedhibee
28-08-2017, 02:31 PM
Kickback will be on lockdown later :faf:
They don't like him much but are happy that at least for now they have a manager who knows how to beat vermin.
Hibby Kay-Yay
28-08-2017, 02:32 PM
So that 'new' model lasted well then :greengrin
greenpaper55
28-08-2017, 02:32 PM
Remember what a dud he was as the Scotland manager ? bring it on.
Green Man
28-08-2017, 02:36 PM
Remember what a dud he was as the Scotland manager ? bring it on.
He'll have no need for Lafferty now.
kevo1875
28-08-2017, 02:36 PM
He must have impressed himself in his interview
GreenCastle
28-08-2017, 02:39 PM
Cheer up Craig Levein..................
Always one of my favourites
:greengrin:top marks
biotech
28-08-2017, 02:43 PM
Just when you think it can't get any funnier. Comedy gold!
Suppose HMFC will see little downside - He is successful (unlikely) or out the door!
Is It On....
28-08-2017, 02:47 PM
"Levein has been director of football at Tynecastle for three years but has been persuaded to return to the dugout four weeks after Ian Cathro was sacked"
I'm sure he had a real hard time trying to persuade himself to take the job :rotflmao:
Bet their lot can't wait for the derby to come now, what a state they are in right now
Wonder if he will get 2 salaries like Kevin Spacey in "Horrible bosses"?
leither17
28-08-2017, 02:47 PM
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To do list
1. Sign midfielder or 2 by Thursday
2. Empty duds (ideally by Thursday)
3. Beat the Sheep
4. Routinely pump Hibs (as per past 40 years)
5. Win Scottish Cup
Pretty Boy
28-08-2017, 02:49 PM
Pumping those mutants will be just that little bit sweeter now with that arrogant twat back in the dug out.
SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
28-08-2017, 02:52 PM
Wonder if he will get 2 salaries like Kevin Spacey in "Horrible bosses"?
I actually think this is a slightly concerning appointment - his teams were a total nightmare to play against from what i remember, and he knew what was needed from a functional scottish team to be successful.
Im just hoping he has been out of it for so long he has become a bit oit of touch.
I think we can assume him amd daly will be working quite closely together and grooming him (pun very much intended) to take over
Will Budgie have the baws to sack him when he's doing sh*te.
Heisenberg
28-08-2017, 02:53 PM
Hearts will need several new signings in before they become a better side. Lacking quality, especially in midfield.
Catch22
28-08-2017, 02:54 PM
ted Today, 14:19
"Horrendous i'll be starting the protests outside Tynie main entrance as soon as it's built." That's proper trolling. Gold star to the scamp who posted that.
Deansy
28-08-2017, 02:54 PM
Kickback will be on lockdown later :faf:
Got in before they locked it down -
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/171898-leveins-got-the-gig/page-2
'What a shambles.Hope to God this turns out to be an excellent move, but I have my doubts. Anyway, 3 days to sign 2 wingers, an attacking midfielder, a left back, and a striker with a wee bit of pace. Without that it really doesn't matter who the manager is anyway'
A large number of similar posts all with the same message/plea for CL - BUY, BUY, BUY !! They really are NOT coming to terms with the 'Playing Within Your Means' regime - it's going to take years for the damage done by their 30+ years of 'Other People's Money' business-plan to fade away !!
One thing's for sure - Levein being back in charge will bring their 'HATE HIBS' doctrine back into their teams. Thank God for Neil Lennon who's ensured we now have a squad of players more than capable of looking after themselves !
givescotlandfreedom
28-08-2017, 02:56 PM
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3. Beat the Sheep
4. Routinely pump Hibs (as per past 40 years)
5. Win Scottish Cup
Ha ha they don't actually believe that?
Hibee87
28-08-2017, 02:58 PM
Herts official statement:
I am very pleased to be able to announce that, at the request of the board, Craig Levein has agreed to take on the role of First Team Manager at the club. He will continue to hold a seat on the board and, as such, will retain the overall responsibilities associated with the wider role of Director of Football. However, his focus and priorities will change. To enable Craig to focus fully on the Football Manager remit, some minor changes to roles, responsibilities and reporting lines will be implemented within the current coaching team setup and within the youth academy structure.
The youth academy has developed significantly over the last 3 years, under Craig’s leadership, but is now entering a period of stability. Various development programmes have seen the club invest substantial sums, in terms of new staff, new processes, new facilities and new systems. We are now reaping the benefits of that investment. Our Head of Academy, Roger Arnott, has full responsibility for running this operation on a day-to-day basis and he will continue to do so.
On the coaching front, Craig will be implementing some changes to the roles/responsibilities of some of our coaching staff, such that each member of the team will be given the opportunity to continue with his personal development. He will be assisted on the training ground by 4 first team coaches, namely Jon Daly, Liam Fox, Austin MacPhee and Paul Gallacher. Each coach will have clearly defined areas of responsibility, both on and off the training ground. Jon’s first team responsibilities mean that Andy Kirk will now take charge of the U20s on a permanent basis.
In deciding how best to move forward, the board took into account the fact that we are facing a unique set of circumstances this year, with the first match on our home ground not coming until three months into the season. Given this situation, we believed it was essential to call on experience.
Against this backdrop, we drew up our selection criteria and invited a number of experienced managers/head coaches for interview. The candidates we interviewed were, without exception, first-class. However, as the interview process progressed, it became clear to the board that the ideal candidate was already with us. Not only does Craig satisfy all of our requirements, in terms of experience and personal attributes, he also offers continuity and stability. During a time of great change at the club, it is of paramount importance that we consolidate progress already made and learn from our experiences.
Having presented our plan to all members of the coaching staff and to our captain, I can confirm that everyone is fully behind it. We are, therefore, delighted that Craig has agreed to take on this challenge and for the avoidance of doubt…yes…he will be taking his place in the dugout…and yes, for the first time in the last 3 years…he will indeed be picking the team!
where'stheslope
28-08-2017, 02:58 PM
I for one not complaining about his appointment!
Always felt if you have no strikers against you, it will be harder for the other team to score!
Only worry I see is when he gets the heave ho, they might get in a decent manager!!!!
poolman
28-08-2017, 03:01 PM
Doesn't say much for the other candidates they interviewed if all they come up with is 4-6 tactic man
givescotlandfreedom
28-08-2017, 03:03 PM
Doesn't say much for the other candidates they interviewed if all they come up with is 4-6 tactic man
I think the other candidates weren't prepared to work under Levein.
RedHibby
28-08-2017, 03:03 PM
First thing he will do is sell the strikers so that he can go with the oh so familiar 4 6 0 formation.
Heisenberg
28-08-2017, 03:04 PM
So he's the director of football and the manager? What a mess. They just couldnt admit their groundbreaking football model was a mistake.
Tornadoes70
28-08-2017, 03:04 PM
After all the big names such as Steve McClaren allegedly seeking the post, 'down' steps their very own DOF Potter to take over. Smacks of penny pinching and sheer desperation. As said on here before no 'real' managers would take it with Potter breathing down their necks so Potter has to take it himself.
:hilarious
GreenCastle
28-08-2017, 03:05 PM
So he's the director of football and the manager? What a mess. They just couldnt admit their groundbreaking football model was a mistake.
And he retains his position on the board - I would say cheap option but behind Budgie he is 2nd highest paid at the club!
Bostonhibby
28-08-2017, 03:06 PM
Phoned the family yam for his thoughts.
"After the Cathro episode, the stand funding and delay embarrassment I couldn't care less now we've appointed the guy who was responsible for the mess on the pitch anyway"
But what about the vision of changing the way Scottish football is run by appointing bright young coaches etc? Ask I.
" **** right off, you know I'm not happy at the mess we're in"
Pleasing, as they say.
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Hibee87
28-08-2017, 03:07 PM
And he retains his position on the board - I would say cheap option but behind Budgie he is 2nd highest paid at the club!I dont believe budge takes any money out the club so that would make him the highest paid.
OsloHibs
28-08-2017, 03:09 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Spike Mandela
28-08-2017, 03:09 PM
Herts official statement:
I am very pleased to be able to announce that, at the request of the board, Craig Levein has agreed to take on the role of First Team Manager at the club. He will continue to hold a seat on the board and, as such, will retain the overall responsibilities associated with the wider role of Director of Football. However, his focus and priorities will change. To enable Craig to focus fully on the Football Manager remit, some minor changes to roles, responsibilities and reporting lines will be implemented within the current coaching team setup and within the youth academy structure.
The youth academy has developed significantly over the last 3 years, under Craig’s leadership, but is now entering a period of stability. Various development programmes have seen the club invest substantial sums, in terms of new staff, new processes, new facilities and new systems. We are now reaping the benefits of that investment. Our Head of Academy, Roger Arnott, has full responsibility for running this operation on a day-to-day basis and he will continue to do so.
On the coaching front, Craig will be implementing some changes to the roles/responsibilities of some of our coaching staff, such that each member of the team will be given the opportunity to continue with his personal development. He will be assisted on the training ground by 4 first team coaches, namely Jon Daly, Liam Fox, Austin MacPhee and Paul Gallacher. Each coach will have clearly defined areas of responsibility, both on and off the training ground. Jon’s first team responsibilities mean that Andy Kirk will now take charge of the U20s on a permanent basis.
In deciding how best to move forward, the board took into account the fact that we are facing a unique set of circumstances this year, with the first match on our home ground not coming until three months into the season. Given this situation, we believed it was essential to call on experience.
Against this backdrop, we drew up our selection criteria and invited a number of experienced managers/head coaches for interview. The candidates we interviewed were, without exception, first-class. However, as the interview process progressed, it became clear to the board that the ideal candidate was already with us. Not only does Craig satisfy all of our requirements, in terms of experience and personal attributes, he also offers continuity and stability. During a time of great change at the club, it is of paramount importance that we consolidate progress already made and learn from our experiences.
Having presented our plan to all members of the coaching staff and to our captain, I can confirm that everyone is fully behind it. We are, therefore, delighted that Craig has agreed to take on this challenge and for the avoidance of doubt…yes…he will be taking his place in the dugout…and yes, for the first time in the last 3 years…he will indeed be picking the team!
Statement should simply have read:
CHEAP OPTION
WhileTheChief..
28-08-2017, 03:10 PM
Budge can dress it up any way she likes but basically they're skint and no one wanted to come and manage them.
Even Levein doesn't want the job. Briliant.
SouthMoroccoStu
28-08-2017, 03:10 PM
So after 3 weeks of interviewing new managers Craig Levein appoints Craig Levein?!
Joe6-2
28-08-2017, 03:11 PM
Got in before they locked it down -
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index.php?/topic/171898-leveins-got-the-gig/page-2
'What a shambles.Hope to God this turns out to be an excellent move, but I have my doubts. Anyway, 3 days to sign 2 wingers, an attacking midfielder, a left back, and a striker with a wee bit of pace. Without that it really doesn't matter who the manager is anyway'
A large number of similar posts all with the same message/plea for CL - BUY, BUY, BUY !! They really are NOT coming to terms with the 'Playing Within Your Means' regime - it's going to take years for the damage done by their 30+ years of 'Other People's Money' business-plan to fade away !!
One thing's for sure - Levein being back in charge will bring their 'HATE HIBS' doctrine back into their teams. Thank God for Neil Lennon who's ensured we now have a squad of players more than capable of looking after themselves !
Are they that stupid? ( don't answer that )
CL would have these players in now, if they could afford them, after all he's been there all along
OsloHibs
28-08-2017, 03:11 PM
So after 3 weeks of interviewing new managers Craig Levein appoints Craig Levein?!
That's the most Craig Levein thing ever🙈
leither17
28-08-2017, 03:12 PM
https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/902186296499736577https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/902186296499736577
https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/902186296499736577
Having presented our plan to all members of the coaching staff and to our captain, I can confirm that everyone is fully behind it. We are, therefore, delighted that Craig has agreed to take on this challenge and for the avoidance of doubt…yes…he will be taking his place in the dugout…and yes, for the first time in the last 3 years…he will indeed be picking the team!
(https://twitter.com/ScotlandSky/status/902186296499736577)
Thecat23
28-08-2017, 03:13 PM
Three words..
Hearts.... Are.....Skint.
Bostonhibby
28-08-2017, 03:13 PM
After an extensive search I never realised that footstool I'd been resting my high heels on after a hard day running a football club and building a stand was in fact a football manager. Not a very successful one but never mind.
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green day
28-08-2017, 03:14 PM
I had a look at Kickback and there are (more than one of them) stating that Levein is a "true legend who managed a hearts team to a 5-1 victory over Hibs"
Are they on drugs or me?
He was manager in the early 2000s, it was Laszlo that managed them in the Scottish Cup Final, no?
Viva_Palmeiras
28-08-2017, 03:15 PM
He must have impressed himself in his interview
LoL
Keith_M
28-08-2017, 03:16 PM
Levein the new boss; Shockeroony!
Geo_1875
28-08-2017, 03:17 PM
I dont believe budge takes any money out the club so that would make him the highest paid.
I don't believe Budge doesn't take money out of the club. She'll not be paying her own expenses.
GreenCastle
28-08-2017, 03:17 PM
I dont believe budge takes any money out the club so that would make him the highest paid.
I would be amazed :agree:
By the time she leaves Hearts she will have certainly made more money for herself than she had before she got involved with them. They owe her a fortune plus expenses for her nice Mercedes she drives - business meetings . lunches etc...she will have it great at the Pink palace.
.......
Just read the statement ....
Having presented our plan to all members of the coaching staff and to our captain, I can confirm that everyone is fully behind it. We are, therefore, delighted that Craig has agreed to take on this challenge and for the avoidance of doubt…yes…he will be taking his place in the dugout…and yes, for the first time in the last 3 years…he will indeed be picking the team!
This sounds so unprofessional :lolyam::jamboclow
Onceinawhile
28-08-2017, 03:17 PM
So after 3 weeks of interviewing new managers Craig Levein appoints Craig Levein?!
4 weeks.
guthrie01
28-08-2017, 03:18 PM
Herts official statement:
I am very pleased to be able to announce that, at the request of the board, Craig Levein has agreed to take on the role of First Team Manager at the club. He will continue to hold a seat on the board and, as such, will retain the overall responsibilities associated with the wider role of Director of Football. However, his focus and priorities will change. To enable Craig to focus fully on the Football Manager remit, some minor changes to roles, responsibilities and reporting lines will be implemented within the current coaching team setup and within the youth academy structure.
The youth academy has developed significantly over the last 3 years, under Craig’s leadership, but is now entering a period of stability. Various development programmes have seen the club invest substantial sums, in terms of new staff, new processes, new facilities and new systems. We are now reaping the benefits of that investment. Our Head of Academy, Roger Arnott, has full responsibility for running this operation on a day-to-day basis and he will continue to do so.
On the coaching front, Craig will be implementing some changes to the roles/responsibilities of some of our coaching staff, such that each member of the team will be given the opportunity to continue with his personal development. He will be assisted on the training ground by 4 first team coaches, namely Jon Daly, Liam Fox, Austin MacPhee and Paul Gallacher. Each coach will have clearly defined areas of responsibility, both on and off the training ground. Jon’s first team responsibilities mean that Andy Kirk will now take charge of the U20s on a permanent basis.
In deciding how best to move forward, the board took into account the fact that we are facing a unique set of circumstances this year, with the first match on our home ground not coming until three months into the season. Given this situation, we believed it was essential to call on experience.
Against this backdrop, we drew up our selection criteria and invited a number of experienced managers/head coaches for interview. The candidates we interviewed were, without exception, first-class. However, as the interview process progressed, it became clear to the board that the ideal candidate was already with us. Not only does Craig satisfy all of our requirements, in terms of experience and personal attributes, he also offers continuity and stability. During a time of great change at the club, it is of paramount importance that we consolidate progress already made and learn from our experiences.
Having presented our plan to all members of the coaching staff and to our captain, I can confirm that everyone is fully behind it. We are, therefore, delighted that Craig has agreed to take on this challenge and for the avoidance of doubt…yes…he will be taking his place in the dugout…and yes, for the first time in the last 3 years…he will indeed be picking the team!
That last bit :hilarious
Fooling nobody there Ann
Treadstone
28-08-2017, 03:19 PM
Is it just a statement no press conference?
I had a look at Kickback and there are (more than one of them) stating that Levein is a "true legend who managed a hearts team to a 5-1 victory over Hibs"
Are they on drugs or me?
He was manager in the early 2000s, it was Laszlo that managed them in the Scottish Cup Final, no?
It was Paolo Sergio.
They won't have the excuse that the crap team was the previous manager's team as they are all Levein acquisitions.
Jim44
28-08-2017, 03:20 PM
Budge can dress it up any way she likes but basically they're skint and no one wanted to come and manage them.
Even Levein doesn't want the job. Briliant.
.......... and from the statement :
During a time of great change at the club, it is of paramount importance that we consolidate progress already made and learn from our experiences.
Read:
During a time of great change at the club, it is of paramount importance that we try to make some progress at last and learn from our mistakes.
guthrie01
28-08-2017, 03:21 PM
Is it just a statement no press conference?
A Hearts press conference would just be Craig Levein answering his own questions, since he wants to do everything apparently
green day
28-08-2017, 03:23 PM
It was Paolo Sergio.
They won't have the excuse that the crap team was the previous manager's team as they are all Levein acquisitions.
Course it was, doh !
Thats what I meant to type.
Now they are all clinging to "CL had a guid record v hibs last time"
hibsbollah
28-08-2017, 03:23 PM
I love the bit at the end of the statement referring to Craig picking the team himself now :faf: Clearly an attempt to inject humour into the proceedings but it just looks desperate and unprofessional. What a manky, shan, miserable excuse of an organisation.
I don't believe Budge doesn't take money out of the club. She'll not be paying her own expenses.
Is she not getting about £150k interest which is the equivalent of a decent player's salary. I wonder if she can play in midfield.
High-On-Hibs
28-08-2017, 03:25 PM
Can't believe some people are actually worried about this. He's been managing them for 3 years and they've been utterly brutal. :faf::faf::faf:
Not In The Know
28-08-2017, 03:26 PM
So the Dictator of Hoofball (http://i2.dailyrecord.co.uk/incoming/article1378489.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/Craig%20Levein)spent 4 weeks searching the world for a new manager and then decided no-one was better than him, so he's doing it himself.
Arrogant P***K.
Hibee87
28-08-2017, 03:27 PM
I don't believe Budge doesn't take money out of the club. She'll not be paying her own expenses.
She doesnt take a salary then I should have re phrased. She will however make millions on her 'investiment' if/when its all paid back by the FOH.
Billy Whizz
28-08-2017, 03:28 PM
Is it just a statement no press conference?
Levein doesn't talk to the press, think that may have to change though
Hibs90
28-08-2017, 03:28 PM
Some roaster on kickback comparing him being on the board and manager to Alex Ferguson being a Man Utd director and manager :faf:
Any idea what happens when Daly passes him notes from the stand?
G B Young
28-08-2017, 03:31 PM
Can't believe some people are actually worried about this. He's been managing them for 3 years and they've been utterly brutal. :faf::faf::faf:
Precisely. If his spell as Scotland's worst ever manager was his lowest point, his recent proxy management of Hearts runs it a close second. After that scarring Scotland experience he's effectively been hiding behind the Director of Football role, hoping it gave him some kind of 'football guru' status. Nobody really bought it though.
This appointment comes down to one thing. Money - or lack of it. Weeks of sifting through a supposed 'flood' of applications and conducting allegedly high-profile interviews and this is what they end up with?? Joke club.
Sprouleflyer
28-08-2017, 03:32 PM
I had a look at Kickback and there are (more than one of them) stating that Levein is a "true legend who managed a hearts team to a 5-1 victory over Hibs"
Are they on drugs or me?
He was manager in the early 2000s, it was Laszlo that managed them in the Scottish Cup Final, no?
He did, at Tynecastle.
I'm_cabbaged
28-08-2017, 03:35 PM
Is this budge's phase 2? 😂😂
DarlingtonHibee
28-08-2017, 03:35 PM
You couldn't make it up, what happened to the project?? Still Queen Anne getting the cash in from Foh, and charging them interest!!
green day
28-08-2017, 03:36 PM
He did, at Tynecastle.
Aw wait, was that the Mark De Vries match where he scored 4 goals?
Sprouleflyer
28-08-2017, 03:38 PM
Aw wait, was that the Mark De Vries match where he scored 4 goals?
It was. 2-1 going into last 5 mins with hibs throwing caution to the wind, ended 5-1.
SouthsideHarp_Bhoy
28-08-2017, 03:45 PM
It was. 2-1 going into last 5 mins with hibs throwing caution to the wind, ended 5-1.
That was a dark time...! 4-4 followed on fairly quickly after i think - which was at least as bad, if not worse from how i remember it.
I know some yams that will not be back and have stopped their DD's until Potter is gone. Emails about the state of them sent but no replies from Budge. They hate Levein.
As I see it's once again the cheap option and let's face it, it was either him or Daly!
Biggest issue is cash or lack there of! They don't have the funds to bring in the quality that they need and if they did the players would be in by now.
All very pleasing imho!
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Cod Boy
28-08-2017, 03:53 PM
Begging bowl will be out to Robbie Neillson about getting a couple of fringe players from MK Dons on loan.
truehibernian
28-08-2017, 03:53 PM
Not that he needs it but what an added incentive for Kris Commons to get fit and play again given Levein's comments about him years ago when he was the Scotland boss :aok:
This appointment has made my week :greengrin
Dundee Hibee
28-08-2017, 03:54 PM
We can laugh and joke about this but imo this isn't the best outcome for us, Levein will make them organised and hard to beat.
I would much rather they appointed anyone else on their wish list than him.
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1. Sign midfielder or 2 by Thursday
2. Empty duds (ideally by Thursday)
3. Beat the Sheep
4. Routinely pump Hibs (as per past 40 years)
5. Win Scottish Cup
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6. Masturbation.
macca70
28-08-2017, 03:57 PM
4 weeks of interviewing to then give himself the job, amazing, you can't make nonsense like this up.
Did they not adopt a structure of bringing on young coaches.
This appointment is hilarious, what a shambles!!
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