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silverhibee
16-07-2017, 04:08 PM
The boy failed to settle in Blackburn because of the distance between friends/family. He'd be an absolute disaster if he went over to Turkey.
C'mon bud, it's only Blackburn, a 2 1/2 hour drive and he's back up the road, and that's not the reason he failed to settle down South, he has had off the field problems down there.
LancsHibs
16-07-2017, 04:12 PM
What problems?
silverhibee
16-07-2017, 04:17 PM
I for one am not worried about Aberdeen. But it would appear (according to most) that Aberdeen are able to offer a lot more money then we are able to afford. So my question is- how much more money are Aberdeen able to pay a player then what we could?
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I'll have a guess and say Hibs top wage this season will be 3k p/w, Aberdeen could be paying some of there players £5k p/w.
But as i said, just a guess.
silverhibee
16-07-2017, 04:25 PM
What problems?
Ask Tony Mowbray. :greengrin
FRes Hibbie
16-07-2017, 04:45 PM
Yeah there are 60 miles , 100 miles , but basically next to nobody there. We have a far greater catchment population and nobody bigger than us within it. As i said earlier Aberdeenshire is full of Huns , and plenty Celtic fans too. Lets not pretend that Aberdeen have more fans than they do, because the surrounding area is large.
Having grown up in what might be considered an Aberdeen catchment area I agree. Forres must be about 50% rangers, 40% celtic, 5% aberdeen and the rest 'other' with a fair few token man u, chelsea and liverpool.
Think we still should set a deadline for Stokes to sign. Time is pushing on and we have to know where we stand asap.
GreenNWhiteArmy
16-07-2017, 06:52 PM
Still see Stokesy returning and will be in our starting line up vs Partick. Genuinely think it's just a matter of time for the agreement between Stokes and Blackburn to be sorted one way or another.
That article in the sun, doesn't mention any specific clubs so we have no idea who, if anyone is interested so I won't get carried away by a bit of journalism regardless of who wrote the article
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 03:52 PM
Think we still should set a deadline for Stokes to sign. Time is pushing on and we have to know where we stand asap.
Sounds like Hibs listened to you...
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1296490/hibs-hand-anthony-stokes-take-leave-offer/amp/
leither17
17-07-2017, 03:53 PM
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1296490/hibs-hand-anthony-stokes-take-leave-offer/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:scotsunsport:FBLink:Statement:Sport
Hibs make Stokes a take it or leave it offer
(https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/1296490/hibs-hand-anthony-stokes-take-leave-offer/?utm_source=TWITTER&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=SprnklrSUNOrganic&UTMX=Editorial:scotsunsport:FBLink:Statement:Sport )
Borderhibbie76
17-07-2017, 04:17 PM
Right decision imo...love to see him.back but we can't wait forever on him
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Mikey
17-07-2017, 04:20 PM
I wonder if an extra £100,000 available to the club would help swing it :dunno:
Keith_M
17-07-2017, 04:23 PM
I wonder if an extra £100,000 available to the club would help swing it :dunno:
:devil:
neil7908
17-07-2017, 04:28 PM
Really hope he signs and honestly think it would be the best move for him career wise.
He's still only 28, a couple of years with us where he bangs in the goals and I think he could have another serious crack at a top league, earning good money into the bargain.
Another bad season could see him vanish quickly and struggle to get a decent contract in his 30s.
alihibs1
17-07-2017, 04:36 PM
Time for a poll I think...
http://www.strawpoll.me/13458012
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Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 04:46 PM
Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
Desperation? Explain?
stantonhibby
17-07-2017, 04:47 PM
Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
Strange way of looking at it
Billy Whizz
17-07-2017, 04:48 PM
Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
In what way, we can't negotiate for ever. He needs to make a decision, he wants to join hibs or not, and Hibs need to get him fit to be ready for the start of the season
Baw187
17-07-2017, 04:52 PM
On one hand, sounds promising that he's been in protracted talks with us today.
Giving him the deadline is probably the best thing all round given we need to know where we stand quickly and will get it resolved one way or another soon.
Hopefully he sees his future with us.
Desperation? Explain?
Well it doesn't suggest negotiations are going well.
Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
Absolute nonsense, if we were desperate for him to sign why the hell would we be putting a deadline on it?
Surely desperation would be allowing Stokes to hum and haw for another week or two and pinning all our hopes on him signing only to be turned down.
This to me signals that Hibs have put together a strong offer they believe should be enough to convince him within our budget but if he isn't satsified with it then we need to move on and put the effort into getting someone else instead.
Thecat23
17-07-2017, 04:56 PM
Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
I can't get how you have come to this conclusion from that article.
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 04:56 PM
Well it doesn't suggest negotiations are going well.
It's not desperation though. We can't hang about for Stokes forever like we did in January. If he doesn't want to sign on the best terms we can offer then we should be able to move on asap and not wait for him to see if he can find anything better elsewhere (which would be desperate).
greenlex
17-07-2017, 04:57 PM
Well it doesn't suggest negotiations are going well.
I think you're mixing up Exasperation with Desperation. Stokes and the Agent will be (quite rightly) trying to wring every last Kenny out the deal. This is why we are hearing stories of other offers being better. Enough is enough and take it if leave it is as good a bargaining tool as any.
AlbertK86
17-07-2017, 04:58 PM
Absolute nonsense, if we were desperate for him to sign why the hell would we be putting a deadline on it? Surely desperation would be allowing Stokes to hum and haw for another week or two and pinning all our hopes on him signing only to be turned down. This to me signals that Hibs have put together a strong offer they believe should be enough to convince him within our budget but if he isn't satsified with it then we need to move on and put the effort into getting someone else instead.
This 100%
And to me it says we have someone else to pursue if he say nae
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Ozyhibby
17-07-2017, 05:00 PM
Club are doing the right thing here. We can't wait for ever. We waited till the last day of the January transfer window on Stokes only to see it not happen and we had no time to bring anyone else in. We can't repeat that mistake. If he's not signing we have to move on.
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21.05.2016
17-07-2017, 05:01 PM
Hibs apparently given him a "take it or leave it" offer.
Right thing to do IMO. He'd be a good signing but I wouldn't be bending over backwards for him. If he wants to come then great, if he doesn't, we move on and find someone else. Balls in his court now.
This "will he or wont he sign" has been going on long enough, i'm glad hibs are trying to wrap this up now by putting it to him a simple YES or NO question. We can't wait around forever.
Callum_62
17-07-2017, 05:03 PM
We must be pretty confident in what we have offered him
Hope he signs in the next day or so
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Borderhibbie76
17-07-2017, 05:05 PM
Hibs apparently given him a "take it or leave it" offer.
Right thing to do IMO. He'd be a good signing but I wouldn't be bending over backwards for him. If he wants to come then great, if he doesn't, we move on and find someone else. Balls in his court now.
This "will he or wont he sign" has been going on long enough now, i'm glad hibs are trying to wrap this up now by putting it to him a simple YES or NO question.110% this mate Hibs have firmly put the ball in his court now...at least we will soon know one way or another and if we don't get the answer we are all hoping for...we can move on and pursue other targets before the league season starts. Well done Hibs imo [emoji122]
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CRAZYHIBBY
17-07-2017, 05:06 PM
Apparantly stokes also wants a 2 year supply of skinny jeans thrown in
BlackSheep
17-07-2017, 05:06 PM
It sounds to me like all summer there has been informal talks with the Blackburn contract issue and the payoff value at the heart of his decision. Sounds like he wants to come to hibs but unfortunately he has financial commitments that he needs to take care of and perhaps the settlement from Blackburn wasn't as high as he'd hoped thus he had come back to Hibs with wage or signing I. Fee demands and hibs have responded with a take it or leave offer.... digesting it may be close but is it close enough? This newest article does suggest to me that the piece written over the weekend speculating that other clubs are interested may indeed have been penned to get a better offer from hibs.
darwenhibby
17-07-2017, 05:11 PM
A boy in my work PNE fan thinks they are in for him
Don't know how much mileage is in it
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 05:13 PM
A boy in my work PNE fan thinks they are in for him
Don't know how much mileage is in it
Wouldn't be a surprise. I'm sure Alex Neil will know all about him.
lucky
17-07-2017, 05:18 PM
About time Hibs done this. No one is bigger than the club. But I hope he signs
CockneyRebel
17-07-2017, 05:20 PM
Time for a poll I think...
http://www.strawpoll.me/13458012
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Think he'll take any offer that's bigger than ours - just have to hope he doesn't get one.
BullsCloseHibs
17-07-2017, 05:22 PM
Yeah there are 60 miles , 100 miles , but basically next to nobody there. We have a far greater catchment population and nobody bigger than us within it. As i said earlier Aberdeenshire is full of Huns , and plenty Celtic fans too. Lets not pretend that Aberdeen have more fans than they do, because the surrounding area is large.
Agreed.
Hibs are a much bigger club than Aberdeen.
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2017, 05:24 PM
Agreed.
Hibs are a much bigger club than Aberdeen.No we aren't.
hibbie02
17-07-2017, 05:29 PM
I get the feeling most of our future transfer business this window has always been dependent on this deal. Hibs needed to see what it would take to do a deal with Stokes before they knew what was left to spend. I reckon if Stokes says no, we will spend the cash on another "big" name that we couldn't afford if we also had Stokes. So it is Stokes or another premium player, and another couple of up and comers. We won't get Stokes and another star striker, but I reckon we have someone else in mind if he says no.
Callum_62
17-07-2017, 05:32 PM
I get the feeling most of our future transfer business this window has always been dependent on this deal. Hibs needed to see what it would take to do a deal with Stokes before they knew what was left to spend. I reckon if Stokes says no, we will spend the cash on another "big" name that we couldn't afford if we also had Stokes. So it is Stokes or another premium player, and another couple of up and comers. We won't get Stokes and another star striker, but I reckon we have someone else in mind if he says no.
We will get pennant if no stokes.
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Iain G
17-07-2017, 05:36 PM
We will get pennant if no stokes.
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I doubt the two are related Callum? We still need two out and out strikers.
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 05:43 PM
We will get pennant if no stokes.
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No chance. Pennant and Stokes are entirely different players. We'll go for another striker if Stokes doesn't happen.
hibbydog
17-07-2017, 05:43 PM
Wooo
Sky sports news says 'Hibs signing' after the break.
Literally pishing my pants that it might be stokesy...
21.05.2016
17-07-2017, 05:43 PM
We will get pennant if no stokes.
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Doubt it. We've already told Pennant that we aren't offering him a deal, I doubt if Stokes says no we would go running back to him saying we'd changed our mind.
I'd like to think Lennon already has a plan B for if Stokes declines the offer but i very much doubt that plan B is Pennant.
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 05:43 PM
Wooo
Sky sports news says 'Hibs signing' after the break.
Literally pishing my pants that it might be stokesy...
Whittaker probably, he did his press conference today for all the media.
hibbydog
17-07-2017, 05:44 PM
Whittaker probably, he did his press conference today for all the media.
Pooo
AlbertK86
17-07-2017, 05:44 PM
I doubt the two are related Callum? We still need two out and out strikers.
Think Callum may be jesting !!
Maybe Moult will become the target
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Libby Hibby
17-07-2017, 05:45 PM
I've heard a lot of Yams saying it's desperation time for us in the signings front, perhaps as we have had a few knock backs but I really can't think of anything further from the truth.
Our calibre of targets and indeed signings have been nothing short of the best I've seen in a transfer window, sometimes this quality of player takes a bit of time to make a decision but I do not sense desperation, the complete opposite in fact and a great deal of patience has been shown by the club as a whole to ensure the correct player signs for us.
SRHibs
17-07-2017, 05:45 PM
Wooo
Sky sports news says 'Hibs signing' after the break.
Literally pishing my pants that it might be stokesy...
Please be Stokes.
AlbertK86
17-07-2017, 05:49 PM
Please be Stokes.
Nah it'll be the official unveiling of SW. Hope I'm wrong and it is Tony boy
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SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 05:50 PM
Please be Stokes.
It'll Defo be Whittaker 😂
Borderhibbie76
17-07-2017, 05:51 PM
Please be Stokes.It's Whittaker mate sorry he was on stv news too
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hibbydog
17-07-2017, 05:52 PM
It's Whittaker.
Stokes tomorrow....🤞
Seems like desperation on our part. Guessing this one won't be happening. Shame.
If ever I put out a request for a negotiating team remember me to include you out.
If ever I put out a request for a negotiating team remember me to include you out.
No bother.
AlbertK86
17-07-2017, 05:55 PM
If ever I put out a request for a negotiating team remember me to include you out.
Like it 👍👍
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Malthibby
17-07-2017, 06:01 PM
I think you're mixing up Exasperation with Desperation. Stokes and the Agent will be (quite rightly) trying to wring every last Kenny out the deal. This is why we are hearing stories of other offers being better. Enough is enough and take it if leave it is as good a bargaining tool as any.
Very unfair on Kennys.
GG
Smartie
17-07-2017, 06:01 PM
Right move from Hibs imo.
This can't be allowed to drag on forever.
I'd also like to think that if Stokes decides that it isn't for him, that we don't lay into either the club or Stokes off the back of it.
Sometimes it's just not meant to be, we've still got plenty of time to turn our attention to other targets.
Agree with the approach by Hibs as we can't wait until end of window given our need for striker(s).
However while zero critisism for the club I am expecting disappointment over the next 1-2 days given these kind on scenarios normally end in no deal and I think the other club interest chat and now final ultimatum is part of the message management.
We need to conclude either way but I fear that we will be debating our next top target by the end of the week.
21.05.2016
17-07-2017, 06:15 PM
Wooo
Sky sports news says 'Hibs signing' after the break.
Literally pishing my pants that it might be stokesy...
It'll be coverage of Whittaker. Hibs don't normally unveil signings that way.
Smartie
17-07-2017, 06:16 PM
Agree with the approach by Hibs as we can't wait until end of window given our need for striker(s).
However while zero critisism for the club I am expecting disappointment over the next 1-2 days given these kind on scenarios normally end in no deal and I think the other club interest chat and now final ultimatum is part of the message management.
We need to conclude either way but I fear that we will be debating our next top target by the end of the week.
I agree.
I also think we'll probably be debating again in January whether or not to get Stokes back on loan, as he picks up a tidy sum down South to play very little football.
He wants to play for us, I don't think there's any doubt about that, but he needs more money than we are realistically able to pay, a sum that other clubs would easily be able to and prepared to pay.
Agree with the approach by Hibs as we can't wait until end of window given our need for striker(s). However while zero critisism for the club I am expecting disappointment over the next 1-2 days given these kind on scenarios normally end in no deal and I think the other club interest chat and now final ultimatum is part of the message management. We need to conclude either way but I fear that we will be debating our next top target by the end of the week.
Agree regarding the approach and tbh Stokes will know exactly how the clubs work in these situations so the ultimatum is probably best!
I will disagree with you and think we will see Stokes sign along with at least one other this week or early next!
FWIW I am not ITK but feel that now his severance is no longer a issue it shouldn't take long for him to decide!
greenlex
17-07-2017, 06:26 PM
Very unfair on Kennys.
GG
You can never have enough Kenny's. Look after the Kenny's and the Anthony's look after themselves.
jacomo
17-07-2017, 07:26 PM
I agree.
I also think we'll probably be debating again in January whether or not to get Stokes back on loan, as he picks up a tidy sum down South to play very little football.
He wants to play for us, I don't think there's any doubt about that, but he needs more money than we are realistically able to pay, a sum that other clubs would easily be able to and prepared to pay.
Unless he signs a contract I'd say there is significant doubt that he wants to play for us.
21.05.2016
17-07-2017, 07:32 PM
Unless he signs a contract I'd say there is significant doubt that he wants to play for us.
Well the proof is in the next 24hrs or so. Hibs have told him "heres the offer, take it or leave it". If he wants to play for hibs again nows his chance. It really all depends on how much football he wants to play. If he's more bothered about earning lots of money rather than playing football then he can probably find somewhere else, but if he's keen on getting regular first team football again then he really should sign.
As I said earlier, balls firmly in his court now. Time will tell. If he agrees then great, if he doesn't then fine, we draw a line under it and move on. He'd be a good signing but he's not Messi. We shouldn't be spending all our summer efforts chasing him.
Callum_62
17-07-2017, 07:39 PM
Signing him on a permanent deal would be incredible business by us
Love it to happen
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Speedway
17-07-2017, 07:40 PM
Somebody on social media saying he's rejected it.
Sammy7nil
17-07-2017, 07:46 PM
Somebody on social media saying he's rejected it.
It must be true then :greengrin
Stokesy's on fire
17-07-2017, 07:47 PM
Somebody on social media saying he's rejected it.
I hate that guy somebody....
guthrie01
17-07-2017, 07:51 PM
Somebody on social media saying he's rejected it.
Link ?
Won't believe anything unless it's from KM or Hibs directly
Well the proof is in the next 24hrs or so. Hibs have told him "heres the offer, take it or leave it". If he wants to play for hibs again nows his chance. It really all depends on how much football he wants to play. If he's more bothered about earning lots of money rather than playing football then he can probably find somewhere else, but if he's keen on getting regular first team football again then he really should sign.
As I said earlier, balls firmly in his court now. Time will tell. If he agrees then great, if he doesn't then fine, we draw a line under it and move on. He'd be a good signing but he's not Messi. We shouldn't be spending all our summer efforts chasing him.
He'll be getting more than regular 1st team football if he signs for us. He'll have the adulation of the fans from the get-go. He'll not get that anywhere else. If he gets off to a slow start we'll probably be more patient than any other fans would be. Hibs are the best chance he'll get to rebuild his career.
Beefster
17-07-2017, 08:01 PM
Somebody on social media saying he's rejected it.
50/50 chance of being right. Folk have made reputations on those odds.
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 08:01 PM
Well I'm going to go ahead and say he's signed.
Thank me later.
guthrie01
17-07-2017, 08:02 PM
Well I'm going to go ahead and say he's signed.
Thank me later.
:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper:hyper
Stokesy's on fire
17-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Well I'm going to go ahead and say he's signed.
Thank me later.
Its all good man
Speedway
17-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Well I'm going to go ahead and say he's signed.
Thank me later.
I think he's still thinking about it.
That's all the bases covered.
Greenworld
17-07-2017, 08:03 PM
There is no big deal here stokes knows hibs he knows what we can afford roughly if he has been in negotiations today then I would be astonished if we don't know tommorow that we have a player signed
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Deansy
17-07-2017, 08:03 PM
Absolute nonsense, if we were desperate for him to sign why the hell would we be putting a deadline on it?
Surely desperation would be allowing Stokes to hum and haw for another week or two and pinning all our hopes on him signing only to be turned down.
This to me signals that Hibs have put together a strong offer they believe should be enough to convince him within our budget but if he isn't satsified with it then we need to move on and put the effort into getting someone else instead.
If this is indeed what Hibs have done then I hope they continue in this way ! It'd put and end to all the faffing about with players who want us to get involved in a 'Bidding war' or the ones who think they're better than they really are. Getting a rep for being the club that 'You only get the one chance to become a Hibs-player and no more' would be no bad thing, imho - plus it would cut down on all the time that transfer-dealing takes up.
GreenNWhiteArmy
17-07-2017, 08:05 PM
Well I'm going to go ahead and say he's signed.
Thank me later.
I'm the same. Adamant he'll be a Hibs player and the fact we've allegedly put an ultimatum to them, I reckon he'll be in by Friday
Speedway
17-07-2017, 08:10 PM
Well if he doesn't sign, it leaves the way clear for us to bid for Scott McDonald's signature.
The voices are tellin me its a done deal
Is It On....
17-07-2017, 08:10 PM
I'm the same. Adamant he'll be a Hibs player and the fact we've allegedly put an ultimatum to them, I reckon he'll be in by Friday
Adam Ant as well? Hope he "Stands & Delivers" the goals..
Well if he doesn't sign, it leaves the way clear for us to bid for Scott McDonald's signature.
F***** hope not
Libby Hibby
17-07-2017, 08:11 PM
Well if he doesn't sign, it leaves the way clear for us to bid for Scott McDonald's signature.
Please, god, no!!
Captain Trips
17-07-2017, 08:11 PM
Adam Ant as well? Hope he "Stands & Delivers" the goals..
Hopefully we will not need the goody tissues. Its ok coats on.
Well if he doesn't sign, it leaves the way clear for us to bid for Scott McDonald's signature.
Tsk tsk!! [emoji85]
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Onion
17-07-2017, 08:14 PM
He'll be getting more than regular 1st team football if he signs for us. He'll have the adulation of the fans from the get-go. He'll not get that anywhere else. If he gets off to a slow start we'll probably be more patient than any other fans would be. Hibs are the best chance he'll get to rebuild his career.
:agree::agree: Stokes is a living Legend and it would be fantastic to have him back at the club. To the day I croak, will be grateful for his amazing, hunbelievable, incredible, inspired performance in May 16. He could go to any other club in the world, but he will never be appreciated as much as he will be at ER.
Bring him home :aok:
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 08:19 PM
Its all good man
:wink:
Springbank
17-07-2017, 08:26 PM
I can imagine Anthony Stokes being delighted to walk out at ibrox on 12 Aug as a Hibee again, all eyes on him.
You don't get that buzz at Preston
mjhibby
17-07-2017, 08:32 PM
Unless he signs a contract I'd say there is significant doubt that he wants to play for us.
I don't think there's any doubt he wants to play for us but with these bills he keeps running up there is the matter of money. It makes sense all round for him to sign say a two year deal and if he gets back to the player we know he will get another big pay deal. He loved it last time as he feelsat ease here where fans were always glad to see him. Go on stokesy you know it makes sense.
thebausburst
17-07-2017, 08:35 PM
answers no, Dons bound apparently :grr:
Pedantic_Hibee
17-07-2017, 08:35 PM
He needs to decide what is more important to him. Money or career.
It's fair to say if he put in two good seasons at Hibs he would get a lucrative contract elsewhere on the back of it if he were to take a long term view.
alihibs1
17-07-2017, 08:36 PM
answers no, Dons bound apparently :grr:
Where u heard that
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HoboHarry
17-07-2017, 08:37 PM
answers no, Dons bound apparently :grr:
What you are posting doesn't mean a lot if there are no links or background knowledge........
MWHIBBIES
17-07-2017, 08:38 PM
He needs to decide what is more important to him. Money or career.
It's fair to say if he put in two good seasons at Hibs he would get a lucrative contract elsewhere on the back of it if he were to take a long term view.He'd start at plenty of clubs who pay more than us, though.
alihibs1
17-07-2017, 08:39 PM
What you are posting doesn't mean a lot if there are no links or background knowledge........
Only place I can find that he is signing for Dons is that wind up account Hibernian Fans
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BarneyHibby
17-07-2017, 08:40 PM
Interesting:hmmm:
Inside The SPFL @AgentScotland (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland/status/887048003957248002)More
There has been no ultimatum from Hibs to Anthony Stokes & they're prepared to wait as long as it takes over the Summer to get him.
Jim44
17-07-2017, 08:45 PM
Interesting:hmmm:
Inside The SPFL @AgentScotland (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland/status/887048003957248002)More
There has been no ultimatum from Hibs to Anthony Stokes & they're prepared to wait as long as it takes over the Summer to get him.
............... and what if he doesn't sign and the window closes without us making a serious attempt to get a striker we want. If he knows he isn't going to sign, he should do the decent thing and let Lennon know ASAP.
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 08:50 PM
answers no, Dons bound apparently :grr:
Don't spread that ***** someone might believe you.
Heisenberg
17-07-2017, 08:52 PM
Only place I can find that he is signing for Dons is that wind up account Hibernian Fans
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People should really pay more attention to some of the nonesense that these fake pages come out with.
IncredibleHibee
17-07-2017, 08:53 PM
Interesting:hmmm:
Inside The SPFL @AgentScotland (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland/status/887048003957248002)More
There has been no ultimatum from Hibs to Anthony Stokes & they're prepared to wait as long as it takes over the Summer to get him.
This doesn't make sense to me as Kenny Millar is the owner of the account mentioned yet it was himself who published the article in the sun saying that we had given stokesy an ultimatum. ?????
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 08:54 PM
This doesn't make sense to me as Kenny Millar is the owner of the account mentioned yet it was himself who published the article in the sun saying that we had given stokesy an ultimatum. ?????
I don't believe for a second that a professional journalist would be running a twitter site based on gossip.
Beefster
17-07-2017, 08:58 PM
This doesn't make sense to me as Kenny Millar is the owner of the account mentioned yet it was himself who published the article in the sun saying that we had given stokesy an ultimatum. ?????
Kenny Millar does not run the AgentScotland twitter account.
BarneyHibby
17-07-2017, 08:59 PM
Where u heard that
Sent from my SM-G930F using TapatalkI think it's according to this: https://twitter.com/HibernianFans/status/887045514021273604 But this definitely not true. HibernianFans twitter account is absolute garbage.
BH Hibs
17-07-2017, 09:01 PM
Time to tune out of here for a couple of days again methinks.
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 09:10 PM
Time to tune out of here for a couple of days again methinks.
Come back in a couple of days when Stokesey is a Hibs player and all will be well.
Viva_Palmeiras
17-07-2017, 09:15 PM
This doesn't make sense to me as Kenny Millar is the owner of the account mentioned yet it was himself who published the article in the sun saying that we had given stokesy an ultimatum. ?????
Labotomy?
NORTHERNHIBBY
17-07-2017, 09:18 PM
He'd start at plenty of clubs who pay more than us, though.
Blackburn Rovers fall into that category.
I saw him getting on the Megabus in Edinburgh going to Aberdeen early this evening. He had one of those small suitcases on wheels and it was red
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Callum_62
17-07-2017, 09:49 PM
I saw him getting on the Megabus in Edinburgh going to Aberdeen early this evening. He had one of those small suitcases on wheels and it was red
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Done deal
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I saw him getting on the Megabus in Edinburgh going to Aberdeen early this evening. He had one of those small suitcases on wheels and it was red
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:agree: I saw him getting on that bus as well; he had a Razzle in his Pocket.
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 09:58 PM
Ewe wouldn't believe where I've just seen stokes
GreenLake
17-07-2017, 10:02 PM
Well I'm going to go ahead and say he's signed.
Thank me later.
I am so glad because I ordered my Stokes 26 home shirt.
Elephant Stone
17-07-2017, 10:02 PM
Ewe wouldn't believe where I've just seen stokes
Please no
allezsauzee
17-07-2017, 10:03 PM
Ewe wouldn't believe where I've just seen stokes
At an Elvis Presley convention?
SaulGoodman
17-07-2017, 10:04 PM
At an Elvis Presley convention?
Aye but he seemed a bit pissed off. I hope he signs it seems like Its Now or Never.
Wee Effen Bee
17-07-2017, 10:11 PM
Aye but he seemed a bit pissed off. I hope he signs it seems like Its Now or Never.
Huh, you ain't nothin' but sheep dog...:taxi
Is It On....
17-07-2017, 10:14 PM
At an Elvis Presley convention?
If it was an Elvis Costello evening, he would be Watching (out for) The Detectives.
SHODAN
17-07-2017, 10:23 PM
I am so glad because I ordered my Stokes 26 home shirt.
26? It'll be 9.
Did Aberdeen win the euromillions?
southern hibby
17-07-2017, 11:30 PM
Look someone get in touch with Hibs and add onto contract free beers for life in leith. That must be worth something to him And in George street too.
But seriously Stoksey you know you belong here and you know your loved here, worshiped and idolised PLUS you know you can win trophies here too. Go on son sign it you know you want too and you know it's where you belong.
Thecat23
17-07-2017, 11:54 PM
Look someone get in touch with Hibs and add onto contract free beers for life in leith. That must be worth something to him And in George street too.
But seriously Stoksey you know you belong here and you know your loved here, worshiped and idolised PLUS you know you can win trophies here too. Go on son sign it you know you want too and you know it's where you belong.
This 👍🏼
hibees 7062
18-07-2017, 12:05 AM
Look someone get in touch with Hibs and add onto contract free beers for life in leith. That must be worth something to him And in George street too.
But seriously Stoksey you know you belong here and you know your loved here, worshiped and idolised PLUS you know you can win trophies here too. Go on son sign it you know you want too and you know it's where you belong.
:agree:
Greenworld
18-07-2017, 06:26 AM
Interesting:hmmm:
Inside The SPFL @AgentScotland (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland/status/887048003957248002)More
There has been no ultimatum from Hibs to Anthony Stokes & they're prepared to wait as long as it takes over the Summer to get him.
There is no need in this case to wait . As a free player he either wants to come or not. Quite correct of the club to demand a one way or another answer then we move on
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Jim44
18-07-2017, 06:44 AM
Interesting:hmmm:
Inside The SPFL @AgentScotland (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland) 2m2 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/AgentScotland/status/887048003957248002)More
There has been no ultimatum from Hibs to Anthony Stokes & they're prepared to wait as long as it takes over the Summer to get him.
Unbelievable, if we are not putting pressure on him to make a decision. I can't believe that NL and LD are willing to wait indefinitely.
Souter96Mac
18-07-2017, 06:55 AM
Come home Anthony, I'm first dibs to buy you your first handful of pints down leith
marinello59
18-07-2017, 06:58 AM
Unbelievable, if we are not putting pressure on him to make a decision. I can't believe that NL and LD are willing to wait indefinitely.
Agent Scotland gets his info from where? Can anybody believe that Neil Lennon would wait indefinitely for any player and run the risk of starting the season short up front? It looks made up to me.
Dalianwanda
18-07-2017, 06:58 AM
Unbelievable, if we are not putting pressure on him to make a decision. I can't believe that NL and LD are willing to wait indefinitely.
Exactly...sure there will be a deadline as we need to move to other targets if he's not going to sign.
bingo70
18-07-2017, 07:04 AM
Unbelievable, if we are not putting pressure on him to make a decision. I can't believe that NL and LD are willing to wait indefinitely.
I'm sure NL and LD are well versed on how to negotiate. In some cases it's right to give the player time and in other cases the issue will need to be forced a little, Without being part of the negotiations it's literally impossible to know what the right tactic is here.
marinello59
18-07-2017, 07:06 AM
I'm sure NL and LD are well versed on how to negotiate. In some cases it's right to give the player time and in other cases the issue will need to be forced a little, Without being part of the negotiations it's literally impossible to know what the right tactic is here.
There's a major difference between waiting for a little time and saying you would wait indefinitely,
blackpoolhibs
18-07-2017, 07:21 AM
The way some folk are talking here, you'd think this was the first transfer deal we've ever done?
Can't see any chat on Aberdeen fan forums about him re whether or not they want him or even on Blackburn fan forums re opinions on him leaving. Maybe I wasn't looking in the right places but it seems to me that we'd love to have him whereas others are not too fussed.
Just Alf
18-07-2017, 08:05 AM
Can't see any chat on Aberdeen fan forums about him re whether or not they want him or even on Blackburn fan forums re opinions on him leaving. Maybe I wasn't looking in the right places but it seems to me that we'd love to have him whereas others are not too fussed.
The Aberdeen thing was originally mentioned here when we were trying to work out where he'd go in Scotland other than us ..... And as usual it then grows arms and legs :agree:
BoomtownHibees
18-07-2017, 08:07 AM
Look someone get in touch with Hibs and add onto contract free beers for life in leith.
I think he's already guaranteed that anyway 🏆
Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 08:13 AM
I do not know who is our highest paid player ever but if this is to come off I think Stokes will be up there.
Smartie
18-07-2017, 08:16 AM
I do not know who is our highest paid player ever but if this is to come off I think Stokes will be up there.
Were we not chucking silly money around during the Sauzee/ John O'Neil era?
I can't imagine we'd be keen to go near that madness again, otherwise we'd have made an offer that Stokes would already have signed.
Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 08:19 AM
Were we not chucking silly money around during the Sauzee/ John O'Neil era?
I can't imagine we'd be keen to go near that madness again, otherwise we'd have made an offer that Stokes would already have signed.
I think it would be measured Sauzee will have been on decent money before us and that is what drove his wages, Stokes is getting a decent wage or was so thats why he xan get more.
erin go bragh
18-07-2017, 08:20 AM
I do not know who is our highest paid player ever but if this is to come off I think Stokes will be up there.
Sauzee was reportedly on 10k a week . Not a chance in hell of Stokes getting anything near that now .
Peevemor
18-07-2017, 09:00 AM
Sauzee was reportedly on 10k a week . Not a chance in hell of Stokes getting anything near that now .
£7k per week was reported when he took Hibs to court for the remainder of his playing contract when he was sacked as manager.
Sir David Gray
18-07-2017, 09:05 AM
Were we not chucking silly money around during the Sauzee/ John O'Neil era?
I can't imagine we'd be keen to go near that madness again, otherwise we'd have made an offer that Stokes would already have signed.
I'm sure players around that time in the early 2000s were getting paid handsomely for appearance money!
erin go bragh
18-07-2017, 09:25 AM
I'm sure players around that time in the early 2000s were getting paid handsomely for appearance money!
It rings a bell that . Think it was John O'Neil had said he got £1.5 k appearance money .
jacomo
18-07-2017, 09:26 AM
I think it would be measured Sauzee will have been on decent money before us and that is what drove his wages, Stokes is getting a decent wage or was so thats why he xan get more.
Not a chance but if you won't read other comments that explain why you are wrong then do bash on.
Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 10:08 AM
Not a chance but if you won't read other comments that explain why you are wrong then do bash on.
Ok then, I never once claimed it was the case an opinion is all it is, everyone else thoughts are also opinion if no copy of a wage slip (which if course there will not be) if he signs is forthcoming nobody will know bar him agent and club. Are any of these posters you mention privy to seeing the books at the club this week? If no then guesswork exactly the same as me. I do not see anything saying im wrong I just see other opinions. Getting 4/5 or 6k pw could constitute "one of our highest paid players ever". I do not recall me or anyone saying the highest.
Bash away.
BegbieHSC
18-07-2017, 10:12 AM
C'monnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Stokesy! Just say aye!!!!!
Keith_M
18-07-2017, 10:31 AM
So, the situation is the following:
He might be signing.
He might not be signing.
He might have already signed.
If he signs, he might be our highest paid player ever.
If he signs, he might not be our highest paid player ever.
He might be going to the Dons.
He might not be going to the Dons.
He definitely doesn't like Elvis Impersonators.
Well, I'm glad that's cleared up...
Springbank
18-07-2017, 10:34 AM
So, the situation is the following:
He might be signing.
He might not be signing.
He might have already signed.
If he signs, he might be our highest paid player ever.
If he signs, he might not be our highest paid player ever.
He might be going to the Dons.
He might not be going to the Dons.
He definitely doesn't like Elvis Impersonators.
Well, I'm glad that's cleared up...
...and a date with destiny on 12 Aug in Govan awaits, for the returning hero, for the first fixture between Hibs & Rangers since *that day*
If you're Anthony Stokes, there's no better buzz surely, than walking out into the Bear Pit, a gladiator, all eyes on you.
...and a date with destiny on 12 Aug in Govan awaits, for the returning hero, for the first fixture between Hibs & Rangers since *that day*
If you're Anthony Stokes, there's no better buzz surely, than walking out into the Bear Pit, a gladiator, all eyes on you.
Their eyes might be on him but none of their players would be able to get anywhere near him.
To be honest I'll be surprised if he signs, but happy if he does, having said that think it's time the ITKs stated givind us a few more names to speculate around. :greengrin
Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 11:24 AM
I wonder if there is a "pay off Elvis" clause in contract.
overdrive
18-07-2017, 11:54 AM
I'm sure players around that time in the early 2000s were getting paid handsomely for appearance money!
Was that not why we had to stop playing O'Neil and Fenwick under Williamson?
Keith_M
18-07-2017, 11:57 AM
I wonder if there is a "pay off Elvis" clause in contract.
I think if he does sign, everybody should dress like Elvis at his first home game to celebrate.
jacomo
18-07-2017, 11:59 AM
Ok then, I never once claimed it was the case an opinion is all it is, everyone else thoughts are also opinion if no copy of a wage slip (which if course there will not be) if he signs is forthcoming nobody will know bar him agent and club. Are any of these posters you mention privy to seeing the books at the club this week? If no then guesswork exactly the same as me. I do not see anything saying im wrong I just see other opinions. Getting 4/5 or 6k pw could constitute "one of our highest paid players ever". I do not recall me or anyone saying the highest.
Bash away.
I do not know who is our highest paid player ever but if this is to come off I think Stokes will be up there.
Ok then captain.
I think if he does sign, everybody should dress like Elvis at his first home game to celebrate.
I think we should all dress like tavernier, complete with brown stain on shorts and terrified stare.
I wonder if there is a "pay off Elvis" clause in contract.
Or we could crowdfund it...if he signs. (Almost typed sings by mistake).
Smartie
18-07-2017, 12:02 PM
So, the situation is the following:
He might be signing.
He might not be signing.
He might have already signed.
If he signs, he might be our highest paid player ever.
If he signs, he might not be our highest paid player ever.
He might be going to the Dons.
He might not be going to the Dons.
He definitely doesn't like Elvis Impersonators.
Well, I'm glad that's cleared up...
What tune is this to?
BlackSheep
18-07-2017, 12:37 PM
Or we could crowdfund it...if he signs. (Almost typed sings by mistake).
Lol, how strange it would be if the fans raised £200,000 for Stokes' Elvis payment when the HSL are looking fro £100,000 for the the club!!!
mjhibby
18-07-2017, 12:38 PM
Was that not why we had to stop playing O'Neil and Fenwick under Williamson?
Iirc O'Neil signed for us as we offered him 3k a week plus 3k appearance fee. Hertz offered 4.5k with no appearance fee. O'Neil was a great signing as was Fenwick but the appearance money was a lot of dough then. Still glad we got them both though.
mjhibby
18-07-2017, 12:43 PM
£7k per week was reported when he took Hibs to court for the remainder of his playing contract when he was sacked as manager.
I'm sure sauzee was on £6.5k a week and latapy and zitelli £4.5k. I would think mcginn,ambrose Marciano are probably on £3k a week plus got a decent signing on fee. There was the initial sky money which allowed us to pay sauzee and latapy those wages but that ended when sky pulled out.
Mikey
18-07-2017, 12:51 PM
Didn't the club rack up a debt of around £18m around the time that Sauzee, Latapy, etc, were at the club? It took the sale of the car park to make a dent in that and we're still paying it off.
southsider
18-07-2017, 12:58 PM
I'm sure sauzee was on £6.5k a week and latapy and zitelli £4.5k. I would think mcginn,ambrose Marciano are probably on £3k a week plus got a decent signing on fee. There was the initial sky money which allowed us to pay sauzee and latapy those wages but that ended when sky pulled out.
Sky didn,t pull out. We dumped sky and joined up with another crowd who went bust (setanta ?). Went back to sky who told the SFA to go do one. If we had kept with sky we would have received part of the billions available to English teams.
lucky
18-07-2017, 01:02 PM
I'm sure sauzee was on £6.5k a week and latapy and zitelli £4.5k. I would think mcginn,ambrose Marciano are probably on £3k a week plus got a decent signing on fee. There was the initial sky money which allowed us to pay sauzee and latapy those wages but that ended when sky pulled out.
You really think Hibs agreed a 4 year deal with SJM at £3k a week when signed him from StMirren? There is no chance of that being true which then brings into question the rest of your wild speculation on players salaries
HoboHarry
18-07-2017, 01:04 PM
I'm sure sauzee was on £6.5k a week and latapy and zitelli £4.5k. I would think mcginn,ambrose Marciano are probably on £3k a week plus got a decent signing on fee. There was the initial sky money which allowed us to pay sauzee and latapy those wages but that ended when sky pulled out.
Where are these figures coming from? Are you in ITK or are you just pulling wild guesses like everyone else?
Scouse Hibee
18-07-2017, 01:06 PM
Where are these figures coming from? Are you in ITK or are you just pulling wild guesses like everyone else?
:agree: That become fact.
Peevemor
18-07-2017, 01:13 PM
:agree: That become fact.
Sauzée's wages were reported during the court case. My recollection is £7k per week, but it may have been £6.5K. It was definitely there or thereabout.
TonyStokeprano
18-07-2017, 01:22 PM
Stokesy was seen leaving Easter road about 12.45 pm, let's hope they've reached a deal !!
erin go bragh
18-07-2017, 01:22 PM
Sauzée's wages were reported during the court case. My recollection is £7k per week, but it may have been £6.5K. It was definitely there or thereabout.
Add on his 3k appearance money and it's 10k or 13k if there is a midweek game .
And he was worth every penny .
Smartie
18-07-2017, 01:25 PM
Sauzée's wages were reported during the court case. My recollection is £7k per week, but it may have been £6.5K. It was definitely there or thereabout.
What court case?
Peevemor
18-07-2017, 01:27 PM
What court case?
When he was sacked as manager, he took Hibs to court for the part of his playing contract which remained unpaid.
Springbank
18-07-2017, 01:31 PM
Stokesy was seen leaving Easter road about 12.45 pm, let's hope they've reached a deal !!
Good intel - fingers crossed
Brightside
18-07-2017, 01:34 PM
He's not even signed and already everyone seems to have 50% wage increases!!
BegbieHSC
18-07-2017, 01:36 PM
Stokesy was seen leaving Easter road about 12.45 pm, let's hope they've reached a deal !!
aw man, if you're right, and he's said aye, and is currently doing a medical at East Mains, you're gonna be as much of a legend as he is!
Keith_M
18-07-2017, 01:36 PM
What tune is this to?
All Shook Up
Sky didn,t pull out. We dumped sky and joined up with another crowd who went bust (setanta ?). Went back to sky who told the SFA to go do one. If we had kept with sky we would have received part of the billions available to English teams.
We were already [very] poor relations to the English game that was a big reason why SKY were dumped in the first place.
ahibby
18-07-2017, 01:43 PM
We were already [very] poor relations to the English game that was a big reason why SKY were dumped in the first place.
Correct. We tried to create competition between Sky and Setanta but Sky were having none of it. They were never going to pay us anything like the English league and so Setanta was the better offer and had to be taken.
I wonder how much the BT deal is worth.
Smartie
18-07-2017, 01:44 PM
When he was sacked as manager, he took Hibs to court for the part of his playing contract which remained unpaid.
Funny, I'd totally forgotten about that.
Didn't the club rack up a debt of around £18m around the time that Sauzee, Latapy, etc, were at the club? It took the sale of the car park to make a dent in that and we're still paying it off.
A lot of the problem was the size of the wages and the transfer fees we were paid out during Duffy's era & even before that with Jocky Scott bringing in the likes of Ray Wilkins, before McLeish even came to Hibs. McLeish needed a different class of player to turn the club around, but we still had [polite], not so good element and this is where we ended up with around forty to fifty players, all on decent wedge, so the bill stacked up and so did the debt.
Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 01:46 PM
Ok then captain.
Firstly Up there isnt highest it is up there and is clearly subjective a fact that seems to have passed you by. Saying Stokes will be the highest paid player ever is totally different and hasn't been said by anyone that I have seen.
Cigars oot, time you bashed on me thinks.
Peevemor
18-07-2017, 01:50 PM
Correct. We tried to create competition between Sky and Setanta but Sky were having none of it. They were never going to pay us anything like the English league and so Setanta was the better offer and had to be taken.
I wonder how much the BT deal is worth.
Was it not that the SPL dumped Sky to set up SPL TV (which didn't come about because the uglies wanted the majority of the revenue)? Sky then told the SPL to ram it and the Setanta thing was the only deal on offer.
southern hibby
18-07-2017, 01:54 PM
Sky didn,t pull out. We dumped sky and joined up with another crowd who went bust (setanta ?). Went back to sky who told the SFA to go do one. If we had kept with sky we would have received part of the billions available to English teams.
Correct but so happy we did as part of contract the weegie two wanted between 70-80% themselves, hence why the other clubs wouldn't sign the contract.
GGTTH
Scorrie
18-07-2017, 01:56 PM
Was it not that the SPL dumped Sky to set up SPL TV (which didn't come about because the uglies wanted the majority of the revenue)? Sky then told the SPL to ram it and the Setanta thing was the only deal on offer.
I think the only offer was from BBC Scotland at that time for about 8m. Setanta had gone bust and that was what we were left with if i remember correctly. Absolute shambles
ahibby
18-07-2017, 01:58 PM
Was it not that the SPL dumped Sky to set up SPL TV (which didn't come about because the uglies wanted the majority of the revenue)? Sky then told the SPL to ram it and the Setanta thing was the only deal on offer.
There was an SPL TV thing discussed but it seems that Hibs were in a good position to get that off the ground and so that wasn't appealing to other clubs. Then Setanta came in to it. The SPL TV wasn't going to get off the ground but still could have been used to entice Sky back to the table but they didn't take the bait. Neither did they take it when Setanta came in to the frame. Seems Sky were proved right as the Setanta deal was unsustainable.
Winston Ingram
18-07-2017, 02:01 PM
I think the only offer was from BBC Scotland at that time for about 8m. Setanta had gone bust and that was what we were left with if i remember correctly. Absolute shambles
It was BBC but IIRC the offer was only £3m
Allant1981
18-07-2017, 02:01 PM
Where are these figures coming from? Are you in ITK or are you just pulling wild guesses like everyone else?
cant get the link to work but it was reported in the independant at the time that he was still getting paid his £6k per week wage five months after getting the sack as manager but as he was still registered as a player the club would have possibly had to pay his years wage which was almost £300k
21.05.2016
18-07-2017, 02:14 PM
He'll be getting more than regular 1st team football if he signs for us. He'll have the adulation of the fans from the get-go. He'll not get that anywhere else. If he gets off to a slow start we'll probably be more patient than any other fans would be. Hibs are the best chance he'll get to rebuild his career.
100%
jacomo
18-07-2017, 02:19 PM
Firstly Up there isnt highest it is up there and is clearly subjective a fact that seems to have passed you by. Saying Stokes will be the highest paid player ever is totally different and hasn't been said by anyone that I have seen.
Cigars oot, time you bashed on me thinks.
It's fine. We've all talked mince on here at times, myself very much included.
But to carry on in such a determined manner is rare. At least stand by what you said or retract it rather than pretend you meant something else.
Deansy
18-07-2017, 02:28 PM
Correct. We tried to create competition between Sky and Setanta but Sky were having none of it. They were never going to pay us anything like the English league and so Setanta was the better offer and had to be taken.
I wonder how much the BT deal is worth.
Wasn't it the case that at the time of the debate/argument over or between 'SKY/Setanta' it was revealed that the 'Old S*um' had apparently lined up a deal with another cable-TV company for themselves (the bitter rivals who hate each other but have had a few shared-partnerships) which would also have had an major impact on the eventual outcome - seem to remember something about this ?
Ozyhibby
18-07-2017, 02:33 PM
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Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 02:35 PM
It's fine. We've all talked mince on here at times, myself very much included.
But to carry on in such a determined manner is rare. At least stand by what you said or retract it rather than pretend you meant something else.
Aye ok. If we had Ibrahimovic here last season on 200k pw, Sauzee would still be one of the highest paid players we have had even though knowwhere near the same wage.
Sauzee may well have been our highest paid players the next highest might be 3 or 4k less they would still be "one" of the highest. Im quite happy in what I meant I cannot be faulted in your lack of understanding of what was meant.
Im happy to end it here without any retraction needed or required.
GreenNWhiteArmy
18-07-2017, 02:40 PM
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I literally just retweeted this.
Good sign i reckon
We were already [very] poor relations to the English game that was a big reason why SKY were dumped in the first place.
Well I seem to remember that wee Roger Mitchell (?) thought he was just the guy to drive a hard bargin with SKY, they immediately took proposed contract off the table & told Roger no further talks would take place.
BegbieHSC
18-07-2017, 02:46 PM
Reckon if the take it or leave ultimatum is true, we'll know by tonight/tomorrow night at the latest. C'mon Stokesy!
seanshow
18-07-2017, 03:02 PM
I literally just retweeted this.
Good sign i reckon
Whats the name of the daily mail scottish football journo again, i know hes a celtic supporter, sometimes on radio and stv footie show, maybe he knows something?
Borderhibbie76
18-07-2017, 03:03 PM
Just had a text from a sheep follower saying he's heard stokes is signing for them and turned us down ...pretty sure he's on the wind up as I've confidently said stokes will only come back to Scotland if it's us...otherwise he will stay down south...hope I'm right:)
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Captain Trips
18-07-2017, 03:10 PM
Reckon if the take it or leave ultimatum is true, we'll know by tonight/tomorrow night at the latest. C'mon Stokesy!
I do not think our offer is the issue as I am sure it will be decent. The fact he has just agreed a settlement with Blackburn he might wish to see what else comes up now he is available.
He may still be looking elsewhere but the point will come when Hibs need to move on hopefully though he isn't offered anything that is better than us.
Vault Boy
18-07-2017, 03:14 PM
Stokes signing for the Dons would be absolutely gutting. Hope he comes home.
AlbertK86
18-07-2017, 03:17 PM
Radio forth news saying Hibs on verge of another big signing. Said we'd offered the widely mentioned take it or leave it.
Verge intrigued me but maybe just living in hope
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mjhibby
18-07-2017, 03:17 PM
Where are these figures coming from? Are you in ITK or are you just pulling wild guesses like everyone else?
A friend of mine knew John O'Neil so his bit is fact. Sauzee and latapy I'm sure we're on record somewhere. The fact is sauzee was then the highest paid player hibs had had though taking into account inflation George best was probably the highest paid player. BTW I do believe king paddy was the highest paid player in Scotland before he went to celtic.
Ronniekirk
18-07-2017, 03:28 PM
Well if church has said he isn't signing the Club are under a bit of pressure to deliver a Striker as Cummings should only have been sold if we were confident of bringing in a replacement given how much we relied on him
Time yet but with Graham clearly not in Lennon s thoughts Strikers are now Key signings to back up talk of challenging for second
So if your not signing stokesy dinnae. Drag this out
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147lothian
18-07-2017, 04:11 PM
Am I the only one who is totally bored with subjects such as the BBC, Sky and Santana on this thread? The other off the topic discussions are equally boring, the only thing I want to hear about is Stokes.
Wilson
18-07-2017, 04:14 PM
Am I the only one who is totally bored with subjects such as the BBC, Sky and Santana on this thread? The other off the topic discussions are equally boring, the only thing I want to hear about is Stokes.
Hopefully it is just you. Otherwise we'll all just sit here reading no news while Stokes holds out for a better offer.
Stokesy was seen leaving Easter road about 12.45 pm, let's hope they've reached a deal !!
Yes, hopefully it was to sign. No need to turn up in person if declining an offer.
Yes, hopefully it was to sign. No need to turn up in person if declining an offer.
No offence man but there is always a signing spotted at ER but it turns out to be rubbish!
Libby Hibby
18-07-2017, 05:02 PM
No offence man but there is always a signing spotted at ER but it turns out to be rubbish!
Very true that.
snooky
18-07-2017, 05:18 PM
No offence man but there is always a signing spotted at ER but it turns out to be rubbish!
:agree: Acne can be a curse.
w pilton hibby
18-07-2017, 05:32 PM
Well if church has said he isn't signing the Club are under a bit of pressure to deliver a Striker as Cummings should only have been sold if we were confident of bringing in a replacement given how much we relied on him
Time yet but with Graham clearly not in Lennon s thoughts Strikers are now Key signings to back up talk of challenging for second
So if your not signing stokesy dinnae. Drag this out
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Where are you getting that Church isn't signing?
BlackSheep
18-07-2017, 05:36 PM
Where are you getting that Church isn't signing?
BBC news have reported it...
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40648034
Quotes and everything. On to the next one.
w pilton hibby
18-07-2017, 05:44 PM
BBC news have reported it...
Cheers. Posted before checking all the threads.
Duh!
Sir David Gray
18-07-2017, 05:47 PM
It rings a bell that . Think it was John O'Neil had said he got £1.5 k appearance money .
Yep it was something like that. Crazy money!
Was that not why we had to stop playing O'Neil and Fenwick under Williamson?
Yeah that rings a bell.
thebausburst
18-07-2017, 05:52 PM
this must be the most anticipated will he won't he signing since riordans return, club must be desperate to complete this one, if we fall short recon an all out effort for Moult will be next.
yonder1875
18-07-2017, 06:04 PM
Reckon we'll have a striker in by Friday's game.
matty_f
18-07-2017, 06:07 PM
Reckon we'll have a striker in by Friday's game.
Which Friday? :greengrin
thebausburst
18-07-2017, 06:09 PM
Reckon we'll have a striker in by Friday's game.
Yeah Quigley on loan
Borderhibbie76
18-07-2017, 06:17 PM
Yeah Quigley on loanAfter all the Stokes hype that would be most underwhelming albeit he may turn out to be a very decent striker
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thebausburst
18-07-2017, 06:21 PM
After all the Stokes hype that would be most underwhelming albeit he may turn out to be a very decent striker
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Found some very complimentary quotes about the lad from Justin Edinburgh describing him as technically very very good, he's essentially a target man at 6'3 which Lennon has been looking for, don't see him as replacement for Stokes if that falls through
Jim44
18-07-2017, 06:25 PM
this must be the most anticipated will he won't he signing since riordans return, club must be desperate to complete this one, if we fall short recon an all out effort for Moult will be next.
By the way they were talking on Sportsound at the weekend, Moult is Pittodrie bound or going nowhere. Mind you, they were all saying that, outside the ugly sisters, Aberdeen and Hearts are the only clubs who can finish in the top four. Words of wisdom from Wilson, Young, Spiers and Kyle.:rolleyes:
Oh, add Willie Miller to that list.
snooky
18-07-2017, 06:28 PM
Yeah Quigley on loan
Naw, nae chance. Hibs never sign players Quigley.
Borderhibbie76
18-07-2017, 06:48 PM
Found some very complimentary quotes about the lad from Justin Edinburgh describing him as technically very very good, he's essentially a target man at 6'3 which Lennon has been looking for, don't see him as replacement for Stokes if that falls throughSounds promising and more like a replacement for Holt then... [emoji106]
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The Leith Dutch
18-07-2017, 07:33 PM
Well if church has said he isn't signing the Club are under a bit of pressure to deliver a Striker as Cummings should only have been sold if we were confident of bringing in a replacement given how much we relied on him
Time yet but with Graham clearly not in Lennon s thoughts Strikers are now Key signings to back up talk of challenging for second
So if your not signing stokesy dinnae. Drag this out
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What makes you think Cummings was sold in that way?
Seems fairly certain it was a release clause inserted when he resigned and NF meeting that clause.
Unless I'm badly misunderstanding how that works club had no choice but to sell whether a replacement was signed or not.
Billy Whizz
18-07-2017, 07:36 PM
What makes you think Cummings was sold in that way?
Seems fairly certain it was a release clause inserted when he resigned and NF meeting that clause.
Unless I'm badly misunderstanding how that works club had no choice but to sell whether a replacement was signed or not.
What's your point? Think Ronnie has made a valid one?
KazaHibs
18-07-2017, 07:38 PM
Yep it was something like that. Crazy money!
Double that :greengrin
Callum_62
18-07-2017, 07:39 PM
So, tomorrow then?
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Libby Hibby
18-07-2017, 08:07 PM
So, tomorrow then?
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Dinny, just stop it 😂
Callum_62
18-07-2017, 08:12 PM
Dinny, just stop it [emoji23]
Genuinely
Think we will find out one way or an other tomorrow
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southern hibby
18-07-2017, 08:15 PM
Was under the impression that John O'neil had an option to extend for another year if he played so many games, this is another reason Hibs didn't play him near the end of his contract as they didn't want to trigger the extra years worth of wages.
GGTTH
erin go bragh
18-07-2017, 08:51 PM
No offence man but there is always a signing spotted at ER but it turns out to be rubbish!
Are the signings not done at East mains now .
snooky
18-07-2017, 08:54 PM
Genuinely
Think we will find out one way or an other tomorrow
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We need a ban on speculation posts between sunrise & sunset.
We should call it Ramoraban.
Joe6-2
18-07-2017, 08:56 PM
We need a ban on speculation posts between sunrise & sunset.
We should call it Ramoraban.
At least until tomorrow 😉
jacomo
18-07-2017, 10:59 PM
Was under the impression that John O'neil had an option to extend for another year if he played so many games, this is another reason Hibs didn't play him near the end of his contract as they didn't want to trigger the extra years worth of wages.
GGTTH
:agree:
Exactly what happened. Showed just how much financial trouble the club was in back then.
The Leith Dutch
18-07-2017, 11:40 PM
What's your point? Think Ronnie has made a valid one?
Agree with most of the points - mine is that selling Cummings without having a replacement lined up was not really a "choice" the club could be held accountable for.
No biggie.
Brightside
19-07-2017, 06:36 AM
Are the signings not done at East mains now .
Scarve pictures are done on the pitch. Also it's closer to th boozer for Stokes
RoxburghHibs
19-07-2017, 07:18 AM
Scarve
I'm sure you can get antibiotics for that? :greengrin
Hibs hoping to know by the end of the week, according to the Evening News.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-hope-anthony-stokes-future-will-be-clear-by-end-of-week-1-4507428
Jim44
19-07-2017, 08:04 AM
Hibs hoping to know by the end of the week, according to the Evening News.
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-hope-anthony-stokes-future-will-be-clear-by-end-of-week-1-4507428
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Hallelujah!!!! I'll believe it when I see it.
Since90+2
19-07-2017, 08:08 AM
My gut instinct is he wont be signing. If we have offered him our top wack pay of around 3k per week thats probably about a third of what he could get elsewhere.
Hope i'm wrong and he signs but the fact he could earn substantially more at another club just makes me think it wont happen.
GreenNWhiteArmy
19-07-2017, 08:21 AM
My gut instinct is he wont be signing. If we have offered him our top wack pay of around 3k per week thats probably about a third of what he could get elsewhere.
Hope i'm wrong and he signs but the fact he could earn substantially more at another club just makes me think it wont happen.
I still think he'll be back at ER next season. He's never really cut it down south for one reason or another so a team from League One or offering 10k a week is unlikely imo. He may get 5k but as I've said, his goalscoring record down there is non existent so why would a team take a chance on him?
neil7908
19-07-2017, 09:00 AM
I still think he'll be back at ER next season. He's never really cut it down south for one reason or another so a team from League One or offering 10k a week is unlikely imo. He may get 5k but as I've said, his goalscoring record down there is non existent so why would a team take a chance on him?
Thing is though, English Championship or top League 1 teams can offer £5-6k per week without breaking sweat. They certainly wouldn't break the bank for Stokes but can easily afford to take a risk with what is pretty small money for them.
I don't think he'll have loads of clubs queueing up for him but there will be a one or two who'll think he's worth the risk and can offer him double what we can.
Borderhibbie76
19-07-2017, 09:10 AM
Either way (And I hope he does sign) this needs sorting and fast...our league season starts 2 weeks on sat and we still haven't got a main striker on our books, tho Murray has started promisingly. IMO we need another 1st choice striker in for the league kick off...with hopefully at least 1 more to follow before 31 Aug
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neil7908
19-07-2017, 09:18 AM
Either way (And I hope he does sign) this needs sorting and fast...our league season starts 2 weeks on sat and we still haven't got a main striker on our books, tho Murray has started promisingly. IMO we need another 1st choice striker in for the league kick off...with hopefully at least 1 more to follow before 31 Aug
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I'm desperate for him to sign but there is only so long things can go on for with the season having already started.
We have our first real test coming up on Friday at a ground we've struggled at historically. The league is of course important to us but to me the cups are huge for this club. Finishing second or third would be wonderful but I'd happily give that up for silverware.
Point being that seasons started imo and we are at least 2 players short up front.
Geo_1875
19-07-2017, 09:42 AM
Thing is though, English Championship or top League 1 teams can offer £5-6k per week without breaking sweat. They certainly wouldn't break the bank for Stokes but can easily afford to take a risk with what is pretty small money for them.
I don't think he'll have loads of clubs queueing up for him but there will be a one or two who'll think he's worth the risk and can offer him double what we can.
I think the baggage he brings with him might put them off taking that risk.
BlackSheep
19-07-2017, 09:48 AM
Thing is though, English Championship or top League 1 teams can offer £5-6k per week without breaking sweat. They certainly wouldn't break the bank for Stokes but can easily afford to take a risk with what is pretty small money for them.
I don't think he'll have loads of clubs queueing up for him but there will be a one or two who'll think he's worth the risk and can offer him double what we can.
Interest in Stokes from anyone other than us is purely speculation right now... the article that did in fact speculate interest from others did not even name names.
Onceinawhile
19-07-2017, 10:07 AM
Imagine we signed him, kept it quiet and then just put him in the team for Friday.
Oh my.
High-On-Hibs
19-07-2017, 10:21 AM
Imagine we signed him, kept it quiet and then just put him in the team for Friday.
Oh my.
Not a chance. RP would be standing on the phone to the BBC, the EN, The Scotsman and every other MSM outlet waiting to talk the moment he signs the dotted line. It would be a real boost to ticket sales.
Real Emerald
19-07-2017, 10:25 AM
I'm desperate for him to sign but there is only so long things can go on for with the season having already started.
We have our first real test coming up on Friday at a ground we've struggled at historically. The league is of course important to us but to me the cups are huge for this club. Finishing second or third would be wonderful but I'd happily give that up for silverware.
Point being that seasons started imo and we are at least 2 players short up front.
I agree, I understand getting rid of some of last years players and replacing them with better but it's a risky strategy if you've nothing lined up. That's maybe fine if you're talking about the odd midfielder where there's cover but we have a whole forward line to replace and fast. If Stokes falls through I'd be really concerned and we need more than just him.
ahibby
19-07-2017, 10:34 AM
Not a chance. RP would be standing on the phone to the BBC, the EN, The Scotsman and every other MSM outlet waiting to talk the moment he signs the dotted line. It would be a real boost to ticket sales.
His experience would be useful. I won't be too disappointed if we don't sign him, though. I'm not sure that he has the hunger to excel in games against the likes of Killie and Partick etc. We saw that on the big occasions like the cup final he steps up. As I question his hunger, perhaps his work rate too I suppose, I'd be interested in a striker with something still to prove but admittedly Stokes' experience is a big plus. Stokes + another would be interesting, but Stokes alone, I'd be less excited about. I know that S Murray has something to prove and his work rate is definitely what I'm looking for so another like him to keep the competition going, as I said, I'd find interesting.
Shrekko
19-07-2017, 10:38 AM
Totally bemused at the comments questioning Stokes work rate. I must have been watching a different player last year- he worked his socks off from what I saw. Maybe tried too hard sometimes.
lyonhibs
19-07-2017, 10:38 AM
The length of time this is taking makes me think he isn't coming or rather that if he does it's because he didn't get a better offer during this "waiting period"
Hope I'm wrong on both counts clearly
ahibby
19-07-2017, 10:45 AM
Totally bemused at the comments questioning Stokes work rate. I must have been watching a different player last year- he worked his socks off from what I saw. Maybe tried too hard sometimes.
Just calling it as I see it some will agree and some won't and it doesn't really matter either way.
Callum_62
19-07-2017, 10:49 AM
Totally bemused at the comments questioning Stokes work rate. I must have been watching a different player last year- he worked his socks off from what I saw. Maybe tried too hard sometimes.
:agree:
Big_Franck
19-07-2017, 10:53 AM
The length of time this is taking makes me think he isn't coming or rather that if he does it's because he didn't get a better offer during this "waiting period"
Hope I'm wrong on both counts clearly
That's the case with pretty much every signing we make. The vast majority of our signings would have joined someone else if they'd been offered another 500pw. That's not unique to the Hibs-Stokes situation.
I only hope that we aren't spending most of our time on this one deal. We need 2 or 3 strikers/wide players in and fast. I'll be disappointed if we go another week without bringing in a forward.
kaimendhibs
19-07-2017, 11:21 AM
Totally bemused at the comments questioning Stokes work rate. I must have been watching a different player last year- he worked his socks off from what I saw. Maybe tried too hard sometimes.This for me
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overdrive
19-07-2017, 11:22 AM
Totally bemused at the comments questioning Stokes work rate. I must have been watching a different player last year- he worked his socks off from what I saw. Maybe tried too hard sometimes.
I agree. It was his overall play and work rate that we were all praising in that half-season. It was the lack of 'moments of magic' and goalscoring that we were used to from his first stint that we were bemoaning about him. He did actually score quite a few in the end and the moments of magic came in the Cup Final.
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