Simon Murray

[overdrive]

Even if that's true they can appeal his first yellow as it was for diving.

And hope the appeal can't be heard in time.

[ShadesLongThrow]

I'm liking the Hamilton keeper and the way he clears everyone out of his way - team mate or opponent. Makes the United forwards think twice about challenging him.

[JimBHibees]

He was booked for dissent/abuse to the officials not diving. No chance he'll win any appeal.

No he wasn't the lineman thought he dived.

[Dibben]

as john mcenroe once said , you can not be serious ?

😬

[Billy Whizz]

No he wasn't the lineman thought he dived.

You can appeal simulation

[JimBHibees]

Even if that's true they can appeal his first yellow as it was for diving.

The first yellow was a dive though. It will be heard before Sunday.

[bingo70]

I'm liking the Hamilton keeper and the way he clears everyone out of his way - team mate or opponent. Makes the United forwards think twice about challenging him.

Yeah he's been excellent, where did Hamilton get him from?

[hibee_girl]

The first yellow was a dive though. It will be heard before Sunday.

I'm not saying it wasn't a dive, just they can appeal it.

[O'Rourke3]

How do you know that?

Time the ref took to book him. It was ages before he went to his card and Murray was giving everyone abuse. I may be wrong of course but McLean has been quick with bookings
so far.

[bigwheel]

Yeah he's been excellent, where did Hamilton get him from?

on loan from Norwich City

[Salt N Sauzee]

If you're running at full pelt and someone boots your left knee how would you react?

Wasnt running full pelt though was he.

If im an Arab I would be wanting a penalty but you can see why it went against him. He looks for it big time by throwing his right leg up

[Since90+2]

Time the ref took to book him. It was ages before he went to his card and Murray was giving everyone abuse. I may be wrong of course but McLean has been quick with bookings
so far.

The only reason he could have gave the foul to Hamilton was he thought it was a dive , I can't think of any other reason why he would have made that decision.

[JimBHibees]

Makes contact with his left knee. Doesn't do himself any favours by throwing his left leg up.

Stonewall pen

[Hibby70]

How long do they have to appeal? If they leave it late could they avoid any hearing

[makaveli1875]

taking the sending off out of the equation , the guy did **** all against a premiership defence , second bottom at that . All he showed us tonight is that he's a greedy diving ******* .

[JimBHibees]

I'm not saying it wasn't a dive, just they can appeal it.

I think in this case though they will make a decision before the second leg rather than allow him to appeal and hearing heard next week.

[RoxburghHibs]

How long do they have to appeal? If they leave it late could they avoid any hearing

You can't appeal yellow cards?

[bingo70]

Wasnt running full pelt though was he.

If im an Arab I would be wanting a penalty but you can see why it went against him. He looks for it big time by throwing his right leg up

Aye he was, he had to be to get his toe onto the ball and get their in front of the defender.

If you can be running, concentrating on trying to get the ball and then In a millisecond decide how you're going to go down after being booted from a defender you're a better man than me and I suspect you're giving murrays acting abilities too much credit.

[Billy Whizz]

You can't appeal yellow cards?

You can for simulation

[RoxburghHibs]

You can for simulation

Really? Never heard that before - I stand corrected.

[hibee_girl]

How long do they have to appeal? If they leave it late could they avoid any hearing


I think in this case though they will make a decision before the second leg rather than allow him to appeal and hearing heard next week.

They just said on BT Sport that if Utd leave it until tomorrow to appeal then Murray can play on Sunday as there won't be a hearing until after the game.

[dmc1875]

You can't have a go at him for going down under that challenge ts a stonewall penalty. The first one was a dive, Donati fooled him with stopping before he was expecting contact.

God help the lad with some comments on here if he signs for us. He's not had a good game today but people writing him off after today is ridiculous.

[JimBHibees]

Time the ref took to book him. It was ages before he went to his card and Murray was giving everyone abuse. I may be wrong of course but McLean has been quick with bookings
so far.

The ref didn't know what to give and was waiting on stevie wonder on the line to give him the right info.

[JimBHibees]

They just said on BT Sport that if Utd leave it until tomorrow to appeal then Murray can play on Sunday as there won't be a hearing until after the game.

Yes just heard that doesn't make much sense imo.

[Lago]

Stonewall pen
Certainly was.

[hibee_girl]

Yes just heard that doesn't make much sense imo.

Of course it doesn't, it's the SPFL! :greengrin

[JimBHibees]

Of course it doesn't, it's the SPFL! :greengrin

Indeed :greengrin

[O'Rourke3]

:whistle::whistle:

[calumhibee1]

You can't have a go at him for going down under that challenge ts a stonewall penalty. The first one was a dive, Donati fooled him with stopping before he was expecting contact.

God help the lad with some comments on here if he signs for us. He's not had a good game today but people writing him off after today is ridiculous.

To be fair people started clamouring for him to sign based on 45 minutes so it's no surprise people are writing him off after 90. For what it's worth I never seen tonight but I don't think he's good enough.

[Golden Bear]

Well I still think Murray would be a good signing.

[Babyshamble]

Slagging a player off before he's even signed.hibs.net class 👍

[Mikey09]

It's a penalty. Murray's got a knick on the ball and the Accies lad has taken a swing catching him. Stonewaller. McLean was gonna give it but Lino has changed his mind for him. Poor decision.

[Buc]

It's a penalty. Murray's got a knick on the ball and the Accies lad has taken a swing catching him. Stonewaller. McLean was gonna give it but Lino has changed his mind for him. Poor decision.

I agree that it was a pen, however he made such a meal of the fall part that I can understand why a dive was called.

[Shrekko]

I agree that it was a pen, however he made such a meal of the fall part that I can understand why a dive was called.
Agree with you- probably was a pen but his delayed theatrics you could argue was actually diving. His fall just looked ridiculous.

[Ray_]

Was that when the song was introduced about him walking like a woman and wearing a bra? Remember singing that song when I was very young and only ever knew him as a hun player.

The Scotland support sang it about Bobby Moore and the Hibs fans for Colin Stein, he was the original Agathe, the transfer was bad enough, but before the TT's emerged, he kept on scoring against us, from the start. Within a week he had got his hat trick in that 6-1 & three month later, he got the only goal to put us out the cup.

[GordonHFC]

I remember us singing

Colin, Colin, Colin Stein, the biggest bum youve ever seen 😊

[JimBHibees]

You can't have a go at him for going down under that challenge ts a stonewall penalty. The first one was a dive, Donati fooled him with stopping before he was expecting contact.

God help the lad with some comments on here if he signs for us. He's not had a good game today but people writing him off after today is ridiculous.

Absolutely spot on. He scores goals he harries defenders he will get better.

[JimBHibees]

To be fair people started clamouring for him to sign based on 45 minutes so it's no surprise people are writing him off after 90. For what it's worth I never seen tonight but I don't think he's good enough.

So your writing him off without seeing him. :greengrin

[brog]

There's no doubt Murray's raw & has a lot to learn but there's also no doubt he's a pest to all defences with his energy & commitment. With all the fuss about his dive & red card its been largely forgotten that SM earned what should have been a pen really by chasing a lost cause. I remain hopeful we'll see him at ER.

[RIP Bestie]

Absolutely spot on. He scores goals he harries defenders he will get better.

The boy got no service at all last night. Ball continually hoofed forward aimlessly.
There is certainly a player in there and I would be delighted if we signed him

[calumhibee1]

So your writing him off without seeing him. :greengrin

I've seen him plenty times, which is what I'm basing my opinion on. I just didn't watch the game last night. If he signs I hope he does well and I don't think he's an absolutely awful player, I just feel we can/should be going for better.

My point was more the fact that people became really excited about the prospect of signing him due to his second half performance against Falkirk. It's then no surprise that people after watching him by all accounts have a bad 90 minutes last night aren't so excited. Fickle football fans!

[RIP Bestie]

I've seen him plenty times, which is what I'm basing my opinion on. I just didn't watch the game last night. If he signs I hope he does well and I don't think he's an absolutely awful player, I just feel we can/should be going for better.

My point was more the fact that people became really excited about the prospect of signing him due to his second half performance against Falkirk. It's then no surprise that people after watching him by all accounts have a bad 90 minutes last night aren't so excited. Fickle football fans!

Murray has been talked about as a potential signing for us, long before the Falkirk game.
A lot of Hibs fans had based their opinions on a lot more than 90 minutes of football.
Don't stereotype us all with your way of identifying a decent player whether that be good or bad.
He has impressed throughout the season.

[we are hibs]

He has impressed throughout the season.


he really hasn't.

[JimBHibees]

I've seen him plenty times, which is what I'm basing my opinion on. I just didn't watch the game last night. If he signs I hope he does well and I don't think he's an absolutely awful player, I just feel we can/should be going for better.

My point was more the fact that people became really excited about the prospect of signing him due to his second half performance against Falkirk. It's then no surprise that people after watching him by all accounts have a bad 90 minutes last night aren't so excited. Fickle football fans!

Agree about fickle fans think he would be a decent signing not an amazing one and he may be not a first starter however really impressed by his workrate and attitude however he is raw and can make poor decisions. A great attitude can IMO get you along way though and he will get better service at Hibs also. What is for sure he was absolutely done over by the linesman last night and if he does join Hibs he will already be tarred with a diving rep.

[tamig]

The Scotland support sang it about Bobby Moore and the Hibs fans for Colin Stein, he was the original Agathe, the transfer was bad enough, but before the TT's emerged, he kept on scoring against us, from the start. Within a week he had got his hat trick in that 6-1 & three month later, he got the only goal to put us out the cup.
Thanks for that Ray. Cheers 👍

[Baldy Foghorn]

Agree about fickle fans think he would be a decent signing not an amazing one and he may be not a first starter however really impressed by his workrate and attitude however he is raw and can make poor decisions. A great attitude can IMO get you along way though and he will get better service at Hibs also. What is for sure he was absolutely done over by the linesman last night and if he does join Hibs he will already be tarred with a diving rep.

Good post Jim

[RoxburghHibs]

I would see SM as a replacement to Brian Graham's squad place (assuming he is on his way) more than a replacement to Holt or Keating's - Keating's was more an attacking midfielder last season anyway.

[jeffers]

Agree about fickle fans think he would be a decent signing not an amazing one and he may be not a first starter however really impressed by his workrate and attitude however he is raw and can make poor decisions. A great attitude can IMO get you along way though and he will get better service at Hibs also. What is for sure he was absolutely done over by the linesman last night and if he does join Hibs he will already be tarred with a diving rep.

Bit in bold, his first booking was totally deserved, blatant dive.

Admittedly I've only seen him in games against us and the play off games but he's not impressed me at all. Even in the 2nd half v Falkirk where he did well I wasn't thinking I hope we sign him. If we are looking to finish as the best of the rest next season I'd hope for better than him - I can't see the Huns, Aberdeen or Hearts being interested in him and certainly wouldn't be worried if they did sign him. Sure he runs about a lot and is a nuisance to defenders but so was James Collins.

Out of interest not heard or read anywhere about him turning down a new deal with Dundee Utd, only that he is out of contract in the summer, did they offer him a new one ?

[HibernianJK]

he really hasn't.

So he's ***** but he's classed as an absolute key player for Utd?

FWIW couldn't care less if he's 'made a meal of it' absolute woeful decision from the lino.

[JimBHibees]

Bit in bold, his first booking was totally deserved, blatant dive.

Admittedly I've only seen him in games against us and the play off games but he's not impressed me at all. Even in the 2nd half v Falkirk where he did well I wasn't thinking I hope we sign him. If we are looking to finish as the best of the rest next season I'd hope for better than him - I can't see the Huns, Aberdeen or Hearts being interested in him and certainly wouldn't be worried if they did sign him. Sure he runs about a lot and is a nuisance to defenders but so was James Collins.

Out of interest not heard or read anywhere about him turning down a new deal with Dundee Utd, only that he is out of contract in the summer, did they offer him a new one ?

Agree the first one was a dive and he scores goals as well as running about. Quite happy with the signing but each to their own. Just think he will only get better and would be a good option for us.

[ahibby]

I'd be concerned if he is the best we can do and Chris Sutton doesn't seem to think he is on NLs radar anyway. I hope he is right. Although he took a kick to the left knee before his second dive, there is no way that the knock would have thrown him in the air as though he had been blown up by a grenade. It reminds me of the game we used to play as kids called dead man's fall. I agree with the second yellow because of the dive even though there was contact.

[brog]

I'd be concerned if he is the best we can do and Chris Sutton doesn't seem to think he is on NLs radar anyway. I hope he is right. Although he took a kick to the left knee before his second dive, there is no way that the knock would have thrown him in the air as though he had been blown up by a grenade. It reminds me of the game we used to play as kids called dead man's fall. I agree with the second yellow because of the dive even though there was contact.

Good job you're not a ref then! :wink:

[RIP Bestie]

he really hasn't.

He has impressed me and a good few others, won't impress everyone, I get that.
The point being made was that the opinion was based on what people had seen throughout the season and not a judgement made over 90 minutes against Falkirk or 90 minutes against Hamilton

[CMurdoch]

The question for Lennon is will Murray play well in the Hibs team given the players that would be around him rather than how he is looking with the poor Dundee Utd team he is playing in. Watching last nights game none of the Utd players stood out in a positive way.

[Big L]

There's no doubt Murray's raw & has a lot to learn but there's also no doubt he's a pest to all defences with his energy & commitment. With all the fuss about his dive & red card its been largely forgotten that SM earned what should have been a pen really by chasing a lost cause. I remain hopeful we'll see him at ER.

I think it was December last year I said on here that we should go for him, a couple of the lads said he was a bit raw and as usual I tended to disagree, however, watching him last night I accept they were right. If we ever get rid of the rough edges we could have a hell of a player on our hands, he has pace and desire to win as well as being a goal scorer. I hope we get him.

[Keyser Sauzee]

He has impressed me and a good few others, won't impress everyone, I get that.
The point being made was that the opinion was based on what people had seen throughout the season and not a judgement made over 90 minutes against Falkirk or 90 minutes against Hamilton

I understand everyone has an opinion but I really don't understand the people that are genuinely excited by Simon Murray possibly signing! He is average for the level we will be playing at next year and fair do's if he's a squad player but I want better. I keep seeing that people like his work rate, that's all he has and signing him will go back to the days of calderwood/fenlon/butcher where all the players had was hard work but no great ability. If he signs I hope I'm proved wrong but I don't see him being that successful here.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Also how many times have people really seen him this season, 5/6??? Most of those games will have been against us where he hasn't really shone bar 1 game at tannadice so I'm struggling to see where people are saying he has impressed the whole season??

[Andy74]

Also how many times have people really seen him this season, 5/6??? Most of those games will have been against us where he hasn't really shone bar 1 game at tannadice so I'm struggling to see where people are saying he has impressed the whole season??

Their manager must have seen him a fair bit. He described him last night as a massive part of the team, in form and scoring goals.

He was also pretty impressive against us when playing for Arbroath. I'm sure some people recall we wanted him before then but he had signed for Utd and have maybe kept a wee eye on him since we were linked with him again last year.

[Dundee Hibee]

I'd rather have Mikkelsen than Murray.

[we are hibs]

So he's ***** but he's classed as an absolute key player for Utd?

FWIW couldn't care less if he's 'made a meal of it' absolute woeful decision from the lino.


Being a key player for one of the worst Dundee united sides ive ever seen isn't an achievement. we can and should be aiming higher than Simon Murray.

[Big_Franck]

Murray wasn't great last night at all. He also wasted one of the best chances in the game second half when Untied had a 3 on 2 and he decided to shoot instead of laying in Spittal who was in a much better position. From what I've seen of him he seems to do that a lot and it's the kind of things that infuriates players and fans. He still put in a great shift, though I suppose so would have a lot of United fans.

[JDHibs]

For a guy whos only been a pro for 3 seasons to score 18 goals and get 12 assists in a poor Dundee Utd team is some going!

May not be a great player but hes improving and offers alot more than what we had last season up top. Would 100% give us a good option next season

[JohnMcM]

If NL thinks Murray is good enough and gets him, that'll be good enough for me. He'll be very much aware that his signings will reflect back upon him. I'll back his judgement.
:flag:

[Baldy Foghorn]

Their manager must have seen him a fair bit. He described him last night as a massive part of the team, in form and scoring goals.

He was also pretty impressive against us when playing for Arbroath. I'm sure some people recall we wanted him before then but he had signed for Utd and have maybe kept a wee eye on him since we were linked with him again last year.

Spot on

[Dashing Bob S]

I don't think anybody, least of all Lennon, believes that we are signing Messi. What we have is a pacy raw dedicated talent with an eye for goal whom the boss obviously thinks can improve with the right coaching.

Could be a star, a failure or a middling success - we need somebody to fill the Eoin Doyle role - the point is, no way of knowing.

[Shrekko]

I don't think anybody, least of all Lennon, believes that we are signing Messi. What we have is a pacy raw dedicated talent with an eye for goal whom the boss obviously thinks can improve with the right coaching.

Could be a star, a failure or a middling success - we need somebody to fill the Eoin Doyle role - the point is, no way of knowing.

Eoin Doyle is exactly who I thought off when our interest in Murray became known. Very close to being a really good player had the circumstances been better and went on to do well for himself.

[bingo70]

Eoin Doyle is exactly who I thought off when our interest in Murray became known. Very close to being a really good player had the circumstances been better and went on to do well for himself.

And they're both ginger, which I'm sure wasn't lost on bob

[RIP Bestie]

I understand everyone has an opinion but I really don't understand the people that are genuinely excited by Simon Murray possibly signing! He is average for the level we will be playing at next year and fair do's if he's a squad player but I want better. I keep seeing that people like his work rate, that's all he has and signing him will go back to the days of calderwood/fenlon/butcher where all the players had was hard work but no great ability. If he signs I hope I'm proved wrong but I don't see him being that successful here.

I remember people saying the same sort of things about John O'Neil and look how good he was for us

[Unseen work]

Why do people keep saying "if he's the best we can get"

He's not the best we can get, hence why we have got in Swanson and are linked with other very good players.

Murray however would be a big improvement on the squad as a whole, he is better than Boyle and Graham imo.

Would score more than holt.

More of an attacking threat than Keatings.

[tamig]

I remember people saying the same sort of things about John O'Neil and look how good he was for us

My recollection was that most folk were pretty excited about that signing. He'd had a few cracking seasons for St J before we signed him.

[makaveli1875]

People keep saying he's a raw talent , well he's certainly raw but theres no talent there . Also he's 25 so if he's still raw thats all he's ever going to be .
Were talking about signing the likes of Stokesy , Commons and Boyce , Murray is not anywhere close to the level of these guys and sadly never will be . He's a bottom 6 player at best if not a championship player

[ahibby]

[/B]Good job you're not a ref then! :wink:

Yeah but we all know that refs don't go by the book anyway.:wink:

[JDHibs]

People keep saying he's a raw talent , well he's certainly raw but theres no talent there . Also he's 25 so if he's still raw thats all he's ever going to be .
Were talking about signing the likes of Stokesy , Commons and Boyce , Murray is not anywhere close to the level of these guys and sadly never will be . He's a bottom 6 player at best if not a championship player

Does this work for every single player? If they are top level by 25 they are rubbish?

Can you tell Jamie Vardy that? Or Ian Wright? Lots of players dont reach their potential until later on. Murrays only been a pro for 3 years.

[frazeHFC]

Why do people keep saying "if he's the best we can get"

He's not the best we can get, hence why we have got in Swanson and are linked with other very good players.

Murray however would be a big improvement on the squad as a whole, he is better than Boyle and Graham imo.

Would score more than holt.

More of an attacking threat than Keatings.

I'd rather have Holt, Keatings and Boyle over Murray from what I've seen of him. Would be happy to be proved wrong if he joined.

[Dashing Bob S]

And they're both ginger, which I'm sure wasn't lost on bob

Are they? Never crossed my mind.

[dmc1875]

Does this work for every single player? If they are top level by 25 they are rubbish?

Can you tell Jamie Vardy that? Or Ian Wright? Lots of players dont reach their potential until later on. Murrays only been a pro for 3 years.

Our very own Ivan sproule springs to mind

[blackpoolhibs]

I dont think for one minute that if we sign him, he's coming in as a starter for us. I think Lennon likes what he see's, and thinks he can work on him and make him better.

The lad has scored more goals than anyone we have bar JC, you cant have enough goals in your team, and we don't score enough of them.

[Stevie Reid]

I dont think for one minute that if we sign him, he's coming in as a starter for us. I think Lennon likes what he see's, and thinks he can work on him and make him better.

The lad has scored more goals than anyone we have bar JC, you cant have enough goals in your team, and we don't score enough of them.

Totally agree. If we sign Murray we'll still acquire another striker that requires a bigger financial outlay, and will be intended to be a first pick. Murray will be great to bring on when chasing a game or holding on to a lead, his energy and workrate are excellent. If he can play his way in from there, fair enough.

Happy to have him if Lennon wants him.

[hibs#1]

To be able to bring him and Boyle of the bench at times,if we are behind will be a great tactic to have.i think the comparisons to sproule and Doyle are fitting.
He is still young enough to improve and only been a full time footballer for a couple of years.
As others have said I doubt he'll be coming in as our main striker he'll be more of a squad player at first anyway.

[makaveli1875]

To be able to bring him and Boyle of the bench at times,if we are behind will be a great tactic to have.i think the comparisons to sproule and Doyle are fitting.
He is still young enough to improve and only been a full time footballer for a couple of years.
As others have said I doubt he'll be coming in as our main striker he'll be more of a squad player at first anyway.

comparisons to sproule and doyle are way off the mark . Sproule had pace like weve never seen before and a bit of skill to go with it . Doyle was a goal machine in Ireland .
Murray puts in a shift ...

[RIP Bestie]

My recollection was that most folk were pretty excited about that signing. He'd had a few cracking seasons for St J before we signed him.

Not the way I remember it. I remember having a good few heated discussions with people who felt we should have been going for better than "a player who didn't make it Dundee United and had to drop into the First Division to make anything of himself" Words like journeyman and headless chicken were often used.

[brog]

comparisons to sproule and doyle are way off the mark . Sproule had pace like weve never seen before and a bit of skill to go with it . Doyle was a goal machine in Ireland .
Murray puts in a shift ...

The comparison to Ivan is very apt. He was 24 when he joined us & had been playing part time in Ireland. I doubt if more than a few Hibs fans had heard of him before he signed. Ivan was also extremely raw & almost returned to Ireland before he came good at ER. If anything Ivan was less experienced & less accomplished than SM is now. If SM turns out to be half as good as Ivan we'll be delighted.

[Andy74]

The comparison to Ivan is very apt. He was 24 when he joined us & had been playing part time in Ireland. I doubt if more than a few Hibs fans had heard of him before he signed. Ivan was also extremely raw & almost returned to Ireland before he came good at ER. If anything Ivan was less experienced & less accomplished than SM is now. If SM turns out to be half as good as Ivan we'll be delighted.

There was a thread after Sproule's debut about whether he was the worst footballer ever to have played for us as I recall. Took months for that to be reversed. He was offski until that Ibrox game.

[James70]

They could make a movie about Ivan's career with us, how the boy from Ireland failed to impress, was on the point of returning home when nobody rated him and how he turned it all round by scoring a hat trick against his own favourite team on their own ground and virtually became a god overnight.

[Billy Whizz]

They could make a movie about Ivan's career with us, how the boy from Ireland failed to impress, was on the point of returning home when nobody rated him and how he turned it all round by scoring a hat trick against his own favourite team on their own ground and virtually became a god overnight.

And giving me one of the best days of my life, can remember that game as if it was yesterday
Might YouTube it now to remind me of it

[hibs#1]

The comparison to Ivan is very apt. He was 24 when he joined us & had been playing part time in Ireland. I doubt if more than a few Hibs fans had heard of him before he signed. Ivan was also extremely raw & almost returned to Ireland before he came good at ER. If anything Ivan was less experienced & less accomplished than SM is now. If SM turns out to be half as good as Ivan we'll be delighted.


Thanks that's exactly what I was getting at.👍

[ballengeich]

Does this work for every single player? If they are top level by 25 they are rubbish?

Can you tell Jamie Vardy that? Or Ian Wright? Lots of players dont reach their potential until later on. Murrays only been a pro for 3 years.

You can add Darren Mcgregor to that list as he was close to 25 before his first full-time contract.

[FitbaFolkKen]

And giving me one of the best days of my life, can remember that game as if it was yesterday
Might YouTube it now to remind me of it

Just did, what struck me watching the goals was it shows you how pacey and direct a player Scott Brown was before he went to Celtic.

[Conj]

Just did, what struck me watching the goals was it shows you how pacey and direct a player Scott Brown was before he went to Celtic.

I've always thought that when I watch it, the media always used to say how fast Peter Lovenkrands was but Brown gives him a head start and flies past him.

[Billy Whizz]

I've always thought that when I watch it, the media always used to say how fast Peter Lovenkrands was but Brown gives him a head start and flies past him.

Twice

[brog]

Just did, what struck me watching the goals was it shows you how pacey and direct a player Scott Brown was before he went to Celtic.

Absolutely but also in the 3-1 win at Celtic. His run & composure for the 3rd goal, despite being cleaned out by Jackie McNamara, was just superb.

[RoscoHibby]

I've always thought that when I watch it, the media always used to say how fast Peter Lovenkrands was but Brown gives him a head start and flies past him.

And I'm sure lovenkrands had just came on as sub as well...

[Lago]

Seems that the thread has gone way of on a tangent.

[JohnM1875]

Seems that the thread has gone way of on a tangent.

Happens all to often! Understandable during the close season I guess!

Throughout the season I was saying to my best mate and his Dad (who I have a season ticket beside) I thought we'd go after Murray and I thought he'd be a good signing.

But now I'm not so sure! I think if I had the choice between Murray and Keating's I'd definitely opt for Keating's (I know that's not how things work and Keats is away) I just can't help but think we can aim higher than Murray.

But believe me, if he does sign I hope he proves me wrong and he's a revelation!

[jacomo]

They could make a movie about Ivan's career with us, how the boy from Ireland failed to impress, was on the point of returning home when nobody rated him and how he turned it all round by scoring a hat trick against his own favourite team on their own ground and virtually became a god overnight.


Garry O'Connors fury at being subbed off for Ivan.

'What's he going to f***ing do?'

:hilarious

[southsider]

There was a thread after Sproule's debut about whether he was the worst footballer ever to have played for us as I recall. Took months for that to be reversed. He was offski until that Ibrox game.
He came on for us, as a sub at Hampden (Livi ?) and I thought he looked like a bad Junior. So glad to be proved wrong. Ibrox 0-3 was fantastic.

[oneone73]

He came on for us, as a sub at Hampden (Livi ?) and I thought he looked like a bad Junior. So glad to be proved wrong. Ibrox 0-3 was fantastic.

Dundee Utd iirc?

[lyonhibs]

Not helped by Caldwell's pathological unwillingness to pass to him.

[JimBHibees]

Not helped by Caldwell's pathological unwillingness to pass to him.

Yep remember that clearly. Ivan in acres of space wide and Caldwell tried to go solo or just lump into the box.

[HibernianJK]

I'd rather have Mikkelsen than Murray.

Good god I'm glad your not our manager

[tamig]

Not the way I remember it. I remember having a good few heated discussions with people who felt we should have been going for better than "a player who didn't make it Dundee United and had to drop into the First Division to make anything of himself" Words like journeyman and headless chicken were often used.

Suppose you could say it was time to wheel out one of Yogi's classic cliches to deal with those discussions 😀

[Spike Mandela]

Simon Murray........Naaaahhhh.:whistle:

[SirDavidsNapper]

Keatings for Murray would be the worst swap ever

[Heisenberg]

Keatings for Murray would be the worst swap ever

I'm in this boat now. He was extremely poor today as well as the first leg.

[lugz]

No thanks, I'd hope the club are aiming higher than him.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Arab forum poster is claiming he's already signed, needs to improve a lot if that's the case.

[Ozyhibby]

Have to agree, he looks a poor option. Hope we are looking at a lot better than that.


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[Lago]

I'm in this boat now. He was extremely poor today as well as the first leg.
Frankly therecweren't many that were any good.

[makaveli1875]

There cant seriously be anyone that still thinks we should sign this guy , he's pish

[High-On-Hibs]

Thought he was the only Dundee Utd player than showed any real energy. He didn't really show any quality today, but I wouldn't judge him on this performance alone, considering how poor the whole Dundee Utd team were today.

[lugz]

Thought he was the only Dundee Utd player than showed any real energy. He didn't really show any quality today, but I wouldn't judge him on this performance alone, considering how poor the whole Dundee Utd team were today.

I wouldn't say it's just judging him on today we've played them several times and they've been on TV a lot. If we want a fast striker with plenty energy who's erratic in front of goal lets just save money and play Boyle up there.

[jodjam]

Keatings for Murray would be the worst swap ever

Obviously too young to remember Noel Edmonds Saturday swap shop

[CockneyRebel]

[QUOTE=Ozyhibby;5054773]Have to agree, he looks a poor option. Hope we are looking at a lot better than this

This - have to agree, he's not good enough.

[bingo70]

There cant seriously be anyone that still thinks we should sign this guy , he's pish

When considering signing a squad player that's clearly very raw I'd be amazed if someone was put off by a bad performance, and he was terrible second half today (that's all I saw).

The nature of that type of signing is they'll look bad in some games but show potential in others, it's a relatively cheap gamble, that's the point.

Something that struck me over the last few games of his I've seen is how bad the service has been to him, when there's all that expectation and pressure on someone who's clearly not at a level to be able to handle that yet I'm not surprised he looked guilty of trying too hard.

In short I'd still be quite pleased if we get him but my expectation is he'd be an impact sub for the first six months at least.

Fwiw Im not sure Cummings would score goals in that Dundee Utd team.

[jeffers]

Obviously too young to remember Noel Edmonds Saturday swap shop

I think I'd rather have Noel Edmonds than Murray mate.

[Scouse Hibee]

I would hope we are aiming for a better striker than him. His conversion rate from actual chances is far too low.

[Thecat23]

Sorry but he doesn't look a player who would score much in the Prem. I'd like to think Hibs will be looking to bring in better.

[truehibernian]

Sorry but he doesn't look a player who would score much in the Prem. I'd like to think Hibs will be looking to bring in better.

I'm astonished we have gone for him TC - he's no better than John Baird and both I consider to have found their top level.

Losing Keatings and replacing with Murray is utterly baffling for me. Keatings has been badly advised in my opinion and should have stayed to prove if he was good enough. He will end up a journeyman lower league player unless he changes his attitude and fights for his place in a top side and keeps it.

[heretoday]

Sorry Simon.

The party's over.

[cleanyman]

A junior player

Shouldn't be anywhere near Hibs.

[James70]

If he was a raw youngster it would be worth taking a chance on him but I believe he's 25 so probably too late to do much to improve him, not forgetting how we transformed Ivan though.

[angus hibby]

Was speaking to a United fan who was at game today. Word amongst Utd fans is that Murray signed for us yesterday. No idea if true, just passing on what United fan told me.

They reckon he went through the motions today.

[cabbageandribs1875]

please mr lennon, no, don't do this

[Wigson13]

Was speaking to a United fan who was at game today. Word amongst Utd fans is that Murray signed for us yesterday. No idea if true, just passing on what United fan told me.

They reckon he went through the motions today.

No way is any player signing up with another club the day before such an important game

[Golden Bear]

Whatever happened to the "in Mr Lennon we trust" line? 🙄

[Libby Hibby]

In Lennon we trust

[CMurdoch]

Just as an average player can look better in a good team a good player can look worse in a bad team.
Murray might be a case in point in a very poor Dundee Utd side.
To my eyes he doesn't look good enough but Lennon will be a better judge than me so happy to leave it to him.

[tamig]

In Lennon we trust

Exactly. If the boss wants him that's good enough for me. A lot of football managers on this thread 😀

[Dashing Bob S]

Yes looked pish today but I'd be nervous if I was signing for Hibs too. Lenny obviously sees something coachable in him and he has pace. It's not exactly a bank breaking signing. Chill amigos.

[WhileTheChief..]

A quick look at the Utd forums and they seem to think he's signed for us already.

[FitbaFolkKen]

I can't see him being first choice but I can see him starting a few games and making an impact form the bench. Let's be honest Keats wouldn't have been happy being a bit part player for another season so Murray would fill that void in my eyes.

Lennon obviously sees him as being able to contribute positively so let's just wait and see before we write the boy off.

[blackpoolhibs]

I cant believe anyone would have any sort of opinion on any player playing on that pitch today. Murray along with every other Dundee Hibs player was sheite.

The other week, only two games ago he played very well. He wont be a first pick, but he is someone who could improve playing in a better side given a chance.

And the comparison with Keatings is just silly, Murray has scored more and has more assists than he has, granted he's played more games, but we all know Keatings would never be good enough to get in a Hibs team.

[at last 61]

Get ali Crawford in instead going into the last year of his contract

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[connerg]

Get ali Crawford in instead going into the last year of his contract

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The Rangers fan.

[Forza Fred]

Murray had a poor game against Accies but I would still be comfortable with him signing for us.

He runs at defences and no doubt would improve under Lennon.

If there's better about, fair enough, but we need to add to the squad and Murray imho, is worth a punt.

If he doesn't work out, well he'll be on his way after a season.

[SirDavidsNapper]

Get ali Crawford in instead going into the last year of his contract

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Was he not yet another talented young player deemed not good enough for the big glass curtain wall team ?

[JimBHibees]

I cant believe anyone would have any sort of opinion on any player playing on that pitch today. Murray along with every other Dundee Hibs player was sheite.

The other week, only two games ago he played very well. He wont be a first pick, but he is someone who could improve playing in a better side given a chance.

And the comparison with Keatings is just silly, Murray has scored more and has more assists than he has, granted he's played more games, but we all know Keatings would never be good enough to get in a Hibs team.

Agree with that.

[calumhibee1]

I cant believe anyone would have any sort of opinion on any player playing on that pitch today. Murray along with every other Dundee Hibs player was sheite.

The other week, only two games ago he played very well. He wont be a first pick, but he is someone who could improve playing in a better side given a chance.

And the comparison with Keatings is just silly, Murray has scored more and has more assists than he has, granted he's played more games, but we all know Keatings would never be good enough to get in a Hibs team.

He played very well for 45 minutes. For the other 495 minutes in the playoffs he's been largely pish. As he has been most of the time I've seen him throughout the regular season.

If he signs then I hope he does well, I just don't think he's even close to being good enough.

[Hermit Crab]

Seem to remember folk writing off Griffiths during his first loan season after only 11 goals in his 30 odd appearances plus his gesturing to supporters and getting suspended etc. If the boy Murray signs then give him a chance ffs.

[Golden Bear]

He played very well for 45 minutes. For the other 495 minutes in the playoffs he's been largely pish. As he has been most of the time I've seen him throughout the regular season.

If he signs then I hope he does well, I just don't think he's even close to being good enough.

That's a sweeping statement Calum. Did you attend both legs of the play off games against Morton as they were not televised to my knowledge?

[neil7908]

I'm not desperate for us to sign him but also think he's bring judged a bit unfairly by those who may have only seen him a couple of times.

There has been spells where Jason won't score for 3-4 games, even getting dropped earlier in the season, and I suspect scouts watching then wouldn't be overly impressed.

If Murray is signed as our main forward to play alongside Jason next year I'd be nervous but if he's coming in alongside Stokes and someone else to provide a bit of competition then can't see the harm given he's free and presumably won't be on much.

[JimBHibees]

That's a sweeping statement Calum. Did you attend both legs of the play off games against Morton as they were not televised to my knowledge?

Where he scored 2 goals including an absolute screamer in the first leg. No one is saying he is the finished article however he has enough about him for us to consider what would be a low risk signing. He probably wouldnt be a first starter however I would be happy if we had guys like him as a standby or as an impact sub.

I am not sure there was anybody in a United shirt who was impressive yesterday and the couple of chances he got werent that bad attempts. Looked like the number of full on games including 2 on artificial surfaces in a short space of time caught up with them yesterday.

They will though be rightly aggrieved to have been done over by an inexplicable decision in the first leg which significantly affected their chances a bit like the penalty last season we didnt get v Falkirk.

[JimBHibees]

I'm not desperate for us to sign him but also think he's bring judged a bit unfairly by those who may have only seen him a couple of times.

There has been spells where Jason won't score for 3-4 games, even getting dropped earlier in the season, and I suspect scouts watching then wouldn't be overly impressed.

If Murray is signed as our main forward to play alongside Jason next year I'd be nervous but if he's coming in alongside Stokes and someone else to provide a bit of competition then can't see the harm given he's free and presumably won't be on much.

Totally agree with that.

[Borderhibbie76]

He played very well for 45 minutes. For the other 495 minutes in the playoffs he's been largely pish. As he has been most of the time I've seen him throughout the regular season.

If he signs then I hope he does well, I just don't think he's even close to being good enough.
That's utter nonsense mate he scored in the first 4 play offs...I'm not over enthused at this signing either but don't be making stuff up ffs

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[Winston Ingram]

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[cleanyman]

Signed

[Heisenberg]

Looks like it's 100% happening then. Need to give him support no matter what the opinions about him are. He'll run himself into the ground every time he plays that's for sure.

[H18 SFR]

18665

Suggesting on Facebook/Twitter that this is photoshopped. Anyone in the know of these things confirm if this is real?

[Saturday Boy]

Suggesting on Facebook/Twitter that this is photoshopped. Anyone in the know of these things confirm if this is real?

It's real, he does look like that 😱.

Don't know if he's signed though

[Michael]

Suggesting on Facebook/Twitter that this is photoshopped. Anyone in the know of these things confirm if this is real?

No one would put that effort in. Looks real.

[Billychaotic182]

Suggesting on Facebook/Twitter that this is photoshopped. Anyone in the know of these things confirm if this is real?

100% real

[H18 SFR]

I'm very happy with this signing.

I genuinely understand how this signing will split opinion, I just feel that Lennon can get the best out of him, when this laddie is on fire he is an absolute handful, he will deliver for Hibs.

[Mikey]

He's getting the same sort of welcome as Efe Ambrose got.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm very happy with this signing.

I genuinely understand how this signing will split opinion, I just feel that Lennon can get the best out of him, when this laddie is on fire he is an absolute handful, he will deliver for Hibs.
:agree::agree::agree:

[Lago]

Seem to remember folk writing off Griffiths during his first loan season after only 11 goals in his 30 odd appearances plus his gesturing to supporters and getting suspended etc. If the boy Murray signs then give him a chance ffs.
Along with Effe, the bomb scare, Ambrose as a disaster waiting to happen. Opinions eh

[Cameron1875]

I'm okay with this if it means he'll be 3rd choice behind Cummings and another new striker. Gives him time to develop without throwing him into the team every week.

It would be asking a lot to finish top 4 with just Cummings and Murray as our strikers!

[Lago]

I'm very happy with this signing.

I genuinely understand how this signing will split opinion, I just feel that Lennon can get the best out of him, when this laddie is on fire he is an absolute handful, he will deliver for Hibs.
Me too, think this will be a great signing for Hibs.

[Smartie]

He was very good in the first couple of playoff games I watched, he was pretty average in the second two.

He's different to what we have though, which can only be a good thing. In the past too many of our strikers have been too similar, and for that reason I think he will be a very worthwhile signing.

[Andy74]

I'm okay with this if it means he'll be 3rd choice behind Cummings and another new striker. Gives him time to develop without throwing him into the team every week.

It would be asking a lot to finish top 4 with just Cummings and Murray as our strikers!

We'd be even happier if he makes himself first choice surely?

[Johnny_Leith]

Trust the gaffer with this one. He's scored a decent amount of goals this season, has pace to burn and creates chances. If NL can hone the weaker parts of his game, we could have a player here. Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

[GreenCastle]

He's a winger - they are hot and cold.

He has pace - he can score goals / assist - he works hard.

Let's give the guy a chance :agree:

Swanson / Boyle / Murray - options.

Find it odd the day after Utd stay down he posts this picture though...

[SHODAN]

This feels very similar to when we signed Colin Nish.

[Craig_in_Prague]

Trust the gaffer with this one. He's scored a decent amount of goals this season, has pace to burn and creates chances. If NL can hone the weaker parts of his game, we could have a player here. Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

well said - same thoughts.

Having a player up top that will run all day, can get a decent amount of goals - will help us over the long season ahead IMO,
I haven't seen a lot of him and even the games he done well, I didn't really get the over the top comments about him (including from our manager), but I fully trust NL and expect the boy to do really well for us.

[Heisenberg]

This feels very similar to when we signed Colin Nish.

Nish was actually a pretty proven goal scorer in the top flight. Murray is more of a gamble I'd say.

[California-Hibs]

Reading the Dundee United message board and they certainly won't miss him. 'Not good enough, doesn't score enough, goals to games ratio is poor, knocking your pan in isn't enough'

I'll trust Lennon with this one but I'm certainly not too excited by it from what I've seen of him and what I'm hearing.

[Keyser Sauzee]

He's a winger - they are hot and cold.

He has pace - he can score goals / assist - he works hard.

Let's give the guy a chance :agree:

Swanson / Boyle / Murray - options.

Find it odd the day after Utd stay down he posts this picture though...


Hes a centre forward not a winger.

[Cameron1875]

Stubbsy set the standard of player Hibs should be aiming for and that was in the Championship!

Allan, Mcginn, Stokes, Mcgregor, and Henderson all brought something to us and were some of the best players outside Celtic and Aberdeen.

I really don't want us to lower our standards and start signing crap. Fingers crossed Murray falls into the Stubbs category.

[Keyser Sauzee]

Those who are using Griffiths and Ambrose as examples where a lot of fans got it wrong before they had signed are missing something, both those players had proven to be very good players before signing, which Murray has yet to do. Hope I'm proven wrong if he signs but I don't think he is good enough.

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[JDHibs]

He isnt coming in as first choice. We arent selling Cummings.

He is also very much risk free if the rumours are correct regarding his wages.

[NAE NOOKIE]

This guy has been totally off the radar until the last few weeks of this season, I cant say I even noticed him in Utd's two games at Easter Road or in the two televised games at Tannadice. He seems to be a player who is willing to work his socks off, but doesn't score as many as he should ... Gareth Evans anybody? :greengrin

Perhaps if you stick him in front of 16,000 every other Saturday and point him towards the goals he will turn into the next Jamie Vardy ..... one can but hope ..... anyway, if he has signed good luck to him and welcome to the Hibees Simon :thumbsup:

[J-C]

He's a winger - they are hot and cold.

He has pace - he can score goals / assist - he works hard.

Let's give the guy a chance :agree:

Swanson / Boyle / Murray - options.

Find it odd the day after Utd stay down he posts this picture though...


As someone has pointed out he's a forward, so too is Boyle but in the modern game you don't get pure out and out strikers nowadays, last season I was fed up seeing Holt out on the left wing looking for space, he had no pace to play there and was better suited to be more central. Sanchez and Walcott are a perfect example of todays modern strikers playing left, right or through the middle.

[Craig_in_Prague]

This guy has been totally off the radar until the last few weeks of this season, I cant say I even noticed him in Utd's two games at Easter Road or in the two televised games at Tannadice. He seems to be a player who is willing to work his socks off, but doesn't score as many as he should ... Gareth Evans anybody? :greengrin

Perhaps if you stick him in front of 16,000 every other Saturday and point him towards the goals he will turn into the next Jamie Vardy ..... one can but hope ..... anyway, if he has signed good luck to him and welcome to the Hibees Simon :thumbsup:

Pretty sure I read Hibs were interested a year ago, but don't know if true.

He'll be a different type of striker to the eventual 4 we'll have in the squad and I am sure he'll do a good job with NL and coaching staff working with him.

[Andy74]

Stubbsy set the standard of player Hibs should be aiming for and that was in the Championship!

Allan, Mcginn, Stokes, Mcgregor, and Henderson all brought something to us and were some of the best players outside Celtic and Aberdeen.

I really don't want us to lower our standards and start signing crap. Fingers crossed Murray falls into the Stubbs category.

The Stubbs that signed Dagnall, Sinclair, Dje Dje and Feruz in forward positions? I think Murray will have more impact than any of those.

Stubbs made very good signings. He also had some poor ones.

[tamig]

The Stubbs that signed Dagnall, Sinclair, Dje Dje and Feruz in forward positions? I think Murray will have more impact than any of those.

Stubbs made very good signings. He also had some poor ones.

Indeed. A lot of folk getting their knickers in a twist about this signing for some strange reason. I trust in Lennon and I'm sure he will improve Simon Murray as a player and the guy will do well for us.

[Lago]

This feels very similar to when we signed Colin Nish.
No it doesn't.

[staunchhibby]

I believe Simon Murray has signed this morning.

[Andy74]

Evening News now reporting it. Complete with selfie.

[Pretty Boy]

He's raw but his goalscoring record is good at about 1 goal every 2.5 games.

He's maybe not one to get the pulse racing but he could well prove to be a decent bit of business.

[RoxburghHibs]

Welcome to the Hibees Simon 👍🏼🇳🇬

[lucky]

I think he's a good signing. 18 goals this season is not a bad return only JC at Hibs bettered him. The guys got pace and is physical player. I think he'll do well

[Unseen work]

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[MacGruber]

This feels very similar to when we signed Colin Nish.

More so Brian Graham. I think Murray is nowhere near good enough. Now he's signed though I'll judge him on what he does in a Hibs Jersey and hope to be proved wrong - which I often am.
Welcome to the Hibees Sideshow Bob

[Peevemor]

Evening News now reporting it. Complete with selfie.

I didn't realise that he's Gary Muray's son, but now that I know it's pretty obvious...

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[Onion]

From the little I've seen when he's played against us and in the POs, he has decent pace and physique and an eye for goal. Cummings is a better goal scorer and striker of a ball.

[JimBHibees]

The Stubbs that signed Dagnall, Sinclair, Dje Dje and Feruz in forward positions? I think Murray will have more impact than all of those.

Stubbs made very good signings. He also had some poor ones.

Changed it for you. Welcome to Hibees Simon. Big heart which goes along way IMO. :flag:

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From the little I've seen when he's played against us and in the POs, he has decent pace and physique and an eye for goal. Cummings is a better goal scorer and striker of a ball.


:agree: He's got enough to be given a proper chance. He scored more goals last season thatn anyone at ER other than Cummings, and he's big, strong, and pacey.

It's the SPL we want him to play in - not Serie A.

[Hi Heid Yin]

Welcome to our club, Simon.
I for one am happy to give you the benefit of the doubt before you even kick a ball for us.
Impressive stats btw.
Neil Lennon has sung your praises and that's good enough for me.
He knows what he is looking for and what is required at SPL level.
:flag:

[Stevie Reid]

Has the raw materials to cause problems and score goals in the SPL - if Lennon can take those and improve him further (which he obviously does), then I'm excited to see how he develops.

Happy to have whoever Neil Lennon sees fit to bring in.

[JimBHibees]

:agree: He's got enough to be given a proper chance. He scored more goals last season thatn anyone at ER other than Cummings, and he's big, strong, and pacey.

It's the SPL we want him to play in - not Serie A.

Couldnt agree more he will get goals for Hibs of that I have no doubt.

[hfc rd]

If Neil Lennon thinks he can bring the best out of him then that is all that matters to me. TBH, when I've seen him play I've not been that overly impressed but he will have my full backing and I hope he proves me wrong!

[Unseen work]

He has scored 18 goals this season, that I up there with Cummings and Dobbie.

He doesn't seem effected by confidence and will no stop run at defenders, something they absolutely hate and leads to giving fans a lift, winning corners etc.

Defensivley he will be a big asset as he wins it back Sharon by putting defenders under pressure.

Do I think he will start? No.

But he will be a good option to have on the bench imo, we have recently had some very good technical/ neat tidy players that have struggled to influence games as much as they should. Murray is the opposite of this as he will work non stop and get in them positions.

[matty_f]

Has the raw materials to cause problems and score goals in the SPL - if Lennon can take those and improve him further (which he obviously does), then I'm excited to see how he develops.

Happy to have whoever Neil Lennon sees fit to bring in.

:agree:

I saw that St Johnstone were also trying to sign him, Tommy Weight is a good judge of a player and knows how to get players in that work for the team. Probably a good sign that there's a player there.

Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

[NAE NOOKIE]

Pretty sure I read Hibs were interested a year ago, but don't know if true.

He'll be a different type of striker to the eventual 4 we'll have in the squad and I am sure he'll do a good job with NL and coaching staff working with him.

I listened to most of the game yesterday on Sportsound ..... at one point according to the commentators Spittal was doing his nut at Murray because he wouldn't turn and come short for the ball, instead he was looking for it over the top all the time .... nothing wrong with that if you have midfield players who can pick the pass you need to run on to.

In spite of what folk keep saying I don't think Cummings is particularly quick, so it might add a new dimension to our forward play if Murray has the pace to burn folk are saying he does and especially in the premier league where every game wont involve us trying to play in the final third against teams with 9 men behind the ball leaving no space to run into.

In fact, when you look at the retention of Boyle and the addition of Swanson it seems like NL is certainly looking to have pace in the final third.

[Scouse Hibee]

As fans we always wish we could get better but if he has signed he will receive my full support and be judged on what he does for Hibs nothing else

[Golden Bear]

So it would appear that all we need now is the official announcement from the Club.

[Stevie Reid]

:agree:

I saw that St Johnstone were also trying to sign him, Tommy Weight is a good judge of a player and knows how to get players in that work for the team. Probably a good sign that there's a player there.

Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

Totally agree Matty, very encouraging sign given Tommy Wright's transfer record - and, if he had signed for Saints had went onto have a great season, there'd no doubt be many on here who would chastise the manager for not getting him when he was out of contract.

[Blaster]

Totally agree Matty, very encouraging sign given Tommy Wright's transfer record - and, if he had signed for Saints had went onto have a great season, there'd no doubt be many on here who would chastise the manager for not getting him when he was out of contract.

They can have Brian graham instead

[J-C]

The EEN saying that Murray started at Montrose before returning to the junior ranks and also spent 1 year living in Australia before signing for Arbroath, this may explain why he's a late bloomer and at 25 still looks a bit raw.

[Greencore]

Dundee United fans bitter and saying he is on 3k a week for us.. surely not.. .

[heretoday]

Well at least he's still pretty raw so he can learn from others more experienced, like Stokesy hopefully.

[Peevemor]

The EEN saying that Murray started at Montrose before returning to the junior ranks and also spent 1 year living in Australia before signing for Arbroath, this may explain why he's a late bloomer and at 25 still looks a bit raw.

His Dad played for Montrose too.

[Wilson]

:agree:

I saw that St Johnstone were also trying to sign him, Tommy Weight is a good judge of a player and knows how to get players in that work for the team. Probably a good sign that there's a player there.

Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

It is odd but I had been thinking of posting something along the lines that if St. Johnstone (or similar) took a chance on him, and he got them goals, then there would be people on here asking how we could possibly have missed out. Then I saw your post...

For a change, it seems, we are getting in first.

[HibernianJK]

Glad to have signed him but hopefully will still add another striker.

[Golden Bear]

His Dad gave 100% in a Hibs jersey and I'm sure Simon will be the same.

[theonlywayisup]

http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-win-race-to-sign-dundee-united-striker-simon-murray-1-4460055

[jeffers]

As fans we always wish we could get better but if he has signed he will receive my full support and be judged on what he does for Hibs nothing else

Totally agree with this. Not been impressed with what I've seen from him, but he starts with a clean slate at Hibs as far as I'm concerned.

[Roxyhibee]

:agree:

I saw that St Johnstone were also trying to sign him, Tommy Weight is a good judge of a player and knows how to get players in that work for the team. Probably a good sign that there's a player there.

Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

Certainly seems to have plenty of presence about him and that's a positive start from me, agree we've got a signing here - welcome to Hibs Simon.

Tommy Weight - pound for pound one of the best managers around... sorry.

[PatHead]

Welcome to Hibs, Simon.

[CMurdoch]

We are rebuilding our squad so not every player will be an exciting signing. Signing Murray on a free is a good bit of low risk business.
We still need to sign a prolific scorer such as Boyce and should be willing to spend cash on the right guy.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Happy with this, welcome to Hibernian Simon:flag:

[Billychaotic182]

was a bit worried by this signing at first as I think my Utd supporting mates put me off him but he gets my full backing. Hope he proves a lot of fans wrong and hits the ground running for us. Also hope we get to see Oli Shaw given a good run in the team as I think he will rattle them in.

[Baldy Foghorn]

Dundee United fans bitter and saying he is on 3k a week for us.. surely not.. .

And they would know this right enough:aok:

[Congruence]

Delighted with this:thumbsup:

[KeithTheHibby]

Simon Murray got 16 goals from 46 games, roughly 1 in 3. Career total 47 goals, 117 games, roughly 1 in 2.5.

Cummings has 23 goals from 41 games, over 1 in 2. Career 71 goals from 150 games, just under 1 in 2.

Now from that it's clear JC has a better scoring record however I would bet that JC has also played in a better team than Murray during this time.

I really don't know much about this lad however from what I have seen he works hard and would imagine he will be delighted to have got a move to Hibs and will work even harder under Lennon.

What is evident is that the lad scores goals and anyone saying otherwise is talking nonsense as the stats don't lie.

[makaveli1875]

im a bit shocked with this 1 , the 7 or 8 times iv seen him this season he's looked utter gash :confused: if he puts in too many performances like yesterday he will have the boo boys on his case big time. Lets hope our 1st choice forwards dont get too many injuries or suspensions

[southsider]

The last CF with red hair we signed from a Dundee club was Keith, Keith, Keith. He did alright didn't he ?

[ColinNish]

Dundee United fans bitter and saying he is on 3k a week for us.. surely not.. .

Bitter? Where you seeing this? Most of the ones i know are delighted he's gone...

[Speedway]

His Barnet is no where near Hibs class.

Like his tenaciousness though, could be the next Gary Murray.

[woodythehibee]

Not a chance he's on anywhere near 3k a week (or even 2k a week).

He will probably be 3rd/4th choice.

[Vault Boy]

Welcome to Hibs, Simon! Be sure to ignore those who have already decided you're not good enough and bag plenty of goals. :thumbsup:

[CMurdoch]

Not a chance he's on anywhere near 3k a week (or even 2k a week).

He will probably be 3rd/4th choice.

Could see him being on 2k

[easty]

Could see him being on 2k

No chance

[brog]

Not a chance he's on anywhere near 3k a week (or even 2k a week).

He will probably be 3rd/4th choice.

I'm not sure where everyone is getting this 3rd or 4th choice from. Right now he's a starter alongside JC & with his pace & energy I can see him being an excellent foil for JC. We'll need to sign a further 2 top class strikers & keep JC for Murray to be 4th choice striker.

[southsider]

Did we not put in a bid for this lad in January window which DU turned down

[brog]

The Stubbs that signed Dagnall, Sinclair, Dje Dje and Feruz in forward positions? I think Murray will have more impact than any of those.

Stubbs made very good signings. He also had some poor ones.

2 of the above were young loan signings & Darnall was short term back up. I think of AS signing Dom & Stokes & NL signing Holt & Graham, (& being knocked back by Heskey) & I know which I prefer. Having said that I'm pleased about Murray & I'm sure he's thrilled to be at ER.

[Andymac85]

I'm based in Dundee and heard a few folk mentioning that this boys work ethic is through the roof. I, for one, am delighted he has signed.

[JDHibs]

If you dont slate every single player linked with this club, are you really a Hibs fan?

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

If you dont slate every single player linked with this club, are you really a Hibs fan?

One of the great philosophical questions of our time.

[pacorosssco]

Could see him being on 2k

Seen derek mcinnes say dons wage bill 48k a week in papers today and comparing that celtic pay some players close to that amount. 5 million a year is playing budget at dons a season. Id doubt few else have that outwith Rangers.

[IGRIGI]

Looking at our goal scoring outwith Cummings I don't know how anyone can turn their nose up at someone who bagged 18 goals last season.

[Hibby Bairn]

Cannae beat a good old fashioned Hibs.net "welcome to Hibs" thread.

Seems a more than decent lad and prospect. Can we not just give the boy our full support.

[Ozyhibby]

Seen derek mcinnes say dons wage bill 48k a week in papers today and comparing that celtic pay some players close to that amount. 5 million a year is playing budget at dons a season. Id doubt few else have that outwith Rangers.

The Dons turnover is way out of sync with the crowds they get. I'm not sure what level of financial shenanigans they get up to to make that happen but as we have no FFP rules in Scotland we never will.


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[California-Hibs]

Looking at our goal scoring outwith Cummings I don't know how anyone can turn their nose up at someone who bagged 18 goals last season.

Maybe because it was in the Championship and the Premier League is a step up?

[Northernhibee]

Reminds me of Round Doyle.

Other than the hair colour he's not a natural finisher but his endeavour and positioning makes him a threat.

[StevieT]

I went along to the United's 3 home play-off games and paid particular attention to how this lad played. Here is my opinion of what I saw -

He is fast....very fast. Someone who could get on to the end of something if Boyle hit the bye-line (would be interesting to see who is faster).
He is strong and isn't easily pushed off the ball.
He works his socks off and has a fantastic work ethic and will run and chase all day.
He makes things happen and gets to balls that he has no right to get to, in the same way as Boyle does.
He can win balls in the air.

On the down side, he can be selfish in front of goal, but then again so can most strikers.

He has done well to score the number of goals he has this season as he has been part of a very poor United team.

Assuming he has / does signed he will be a good addition to our squad. The fans will love his work rate in the same we they do with Boyle. They will probably dislike his selfishness in front of goal however that can be coached out of you (remember that at United he hasn't had a great deal of support).

[makaveli1875]

Cannae beat a good old fashioned Hibs.net "welcome to Hibs" thread.

Seems a more than decent lad and prospect. Can we not just give the boy our full support.

he has my full support , i havnt been impressed by him at all but i hope he comes in and makes me eat my words and scores a bucket load . If lennon can improve him they way he has with boyle then who knows
Welcome to the hibees Simon , may you prove me and all the doubters wrong , if not be ready for the boo boys on your case :greengrin

[Ozyhibby]

The Dons turnover is way out of sync with the crowds they get. I'm not sure what level of financial shenanigans they get up to to make that happen but as we have no FFP rules in Scotland we never will.


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Aberdeen
2015/16 turnover £13m average gate 13k (£1000 per fan)
Hibs
2015/16 turnover £7m on 9200 (£760 per fan)
Hearts
2015/16 £9.9m on gates of £16k (£618 per fan)

We were in the championship so less tv money etc but we had maximum cup runs that year which explains the high spend per fan.
Aberdeen though manage to get a lot of money out of each fan.


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[JDHibs]

Aberdeen
2015/16 turnover £13m average gate 13k (£1000 per fan)
Hibs
2015/16 turnover £7m on 9200 (£760 per fan)
Hearts
2015/16 £9.9m on gates of £16k (£618 per fan)

We were in the championship so less tv money etc but we had maximum cup runs that year which explains the high spend per fan.
Aberdeen though manage to get a lot of money out of each fan.


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Isnt their Catering and merchandise in house? Unlike us who sub contract it out? Would explain the higher turnover figure.

[Super_JMcGinn]

He has scored 18 goals this season, that I up there with Cummings and Dobbie.

He doesn't seem effected by confidence and will no stop run at defenders, something they absolutely hate and leads to giving fans a lift, winning corners etc.

Defensivley he will be a big asset as he wins it back Sharon by putting defenders under pressure.

Do I think he will start? No.

But he will be a good option to have on the bench imo, we have recently had some very good technical/ neat tidy players that have struggled to influence games as much as they should. Murray is the opposite of this as he will work non stop and get in them positions.

Cummings and Dobbie scored 19 League goals alone to Murray's 10.

That being said I hope he is a smash with us and bangs them in. Welcome simon.

[stoneyburn hibs]

I went along to the United's 3 home play-off games and paid particular attention to how this lad played. Here is my opinion of what I saw -

He is fast....very fast. Someone who could get on to the end of something if Boyle hit the bye-line (would be interesting to see who is faster).
He is strong and isn't easily pushed off the ball.
He works his socks off and has a fantastic work ethic and will run and chase all day.
He makes things happen and gets to balls that he has no right to get to, in the same way as Boyle does.
He can win balls in the air.

On the down side, he can be selfish in front of goal, but then again so can most strikers.

He has done well to score the number of goals he has this season as he has been part of a very poor United team.

Assuming he has / does signed he will be a good addition to our squad. The fans will love his work rate in the same we they do with Boyle. They will probably dislike his selfishness in front of goal however that can be coached out of you (remember that at United he hasn't had a great deal of support).

Going by what I've seen of him this season, I'd say this is a fair assessment.
Welcome to the Hibs Simon.

[Golden Bear]

If you dont slate every single player linked with this club, are you really a Hibs fan?

Then when you do sign, the heavy slagging will really start. But don't feel victimised as all the players receive the same treatment from the knowledgeable fans. 😄

[Ozyhibby]

Isnt their Catering and merchandise in house? Unlike us who sub contract it out? Would explain the higher turnover figure.

They turn it into higher player wages as well though.


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[Pete70]

Welcome to Hibernian FC Simon.

Hopefully another striker or 2 and maybe another winger still to come. Add in Rocky and I'll be happy.

[cmcd]

comparisons to sproule and doyle are way off the mark . Sproule had pace like weve never seen before and a bit of skill to go with it . Doyle was a goal machine in Ireland .
Murray puts in a shift ...

Pace like we have never had before?? How about Arthur Duncan who had great pace and goalscoring scoring ability

[iwasthere1972]

Welcome Simon. All for goals and glory.

[RossScott1991]

It's not a signing that has got me excited, not seen much of him play but how much better is he than keatings? However need to get behind the guy and give him support, from what i read with some comments he sounds like he can be a handful for defenders. If we sign Stokes or someone of a similar calibre then I will definitely be happier with this signing, out and out striker and sure he will be able to contribute over course of a season. His attributes of chasing, and working hard might provide a cracking strike partnership with Cummings as it would leave Jase needing put ball in the net. At 25 year old there will be a cap on how much better he can really get, however lets hope we have our very own Jamie Vardy on our hands!!:wink:

Rocky, Ambrose, Stokes + Central midfielder

and i will be happy transfer window!

Welcome to the hibees Simon!:thumbsup:

[Bishop Hibee]

I'd have preferred Boyce or Moult but a good addition and a player who will improve with better players alongside him and Lennon as his manager.

[makaveli1875]

Pace like we have never had before?? How about Arthur Duncan who had great pace and goalscoring scoring ability

im not that old to have seen Duncan mate :greengrin

[Heisenberg]

I'd have preferred Boyce or Moult but a good addition and a player who will improve with better players alongside him and Lennon as his manager.

Boyce/Moult are players we simply won't be able to afford. Murray seems to be a low risk back up signing, if he's being brought in as a first choice I'll be worried.