Commons - any update?

[CMurdoch]

Assuming you're correct, the scenario must be along the following assumptions:

Commons salary is around £12k per week.
Hibs want to / can only afford £2k per week.
Celtic say they will only pay £8k if he is on loan.
So Commons has to accept a £2k drop if he comes back to us.
Commons want's full whack so stays at Parkhead.

If that's reasonably near the facts, Hibs stick out for £2k contribution and hope that Celtic will back down or at least come to a compromise in order to get at least some contribution to Commons' wage, or he accepts a compromise. :dunno:

Hibs would stretch to £3k to get him late January for the remaining 18 weeks of the season - £54k would be money well spent so long as he doesn't get injured

[Golden Bear]

It's not so much the possibility of Commons not signing for us, but more the thought of the disappointment if we lose out to inferior Clubs in the SPL.

[Jim44]

It's not so much the possibility of Commons not signing for us, but more the thought of the disappointment if we lose out to inferior Clubs in the SPL.

Commons has said that he would like to stay with us. If that's true, what would it take for one of these inferior teams to turn his head?

[2016 Delivered]

It's not so much the possibility of Commons not signing for us, but more the thought of the disappointment if we lose out to inferior Clubs in the SPL.

He won't sign for another club in Scotland I don't think. The Lennon factor is making him consider staying in the country imo.

[Winston Ingram]

Logically we aren't going to sign him before the end of the month.

He's not going to play for Celtic again. They want to avoid paying him off so they're going to hang on to the last minute so that they can smoke out any other interest to avoid paying the contract up or subsidising another club to take him.

[jacomo]

Logically we aren't going to sign him before the end of the month.

He's not going to play for Celtic again. They want to avoid paying him off so they're going to hang on to the last minute so that they can smoke out any other interest to avoid paying the contract up or subsidising another club to take him.


This seems most likely. It's a question of who blinks first.

Or KC's head being turned by a huge offer from China! :greengrin:

[Nicho87]

Think a positive on a side note is rodgers refusal to allow mackay-stevens out on loan to united. Would be a good player in this league obviously. If we get kc thats an outstanding bit of backing from the board. I think the best way to offer it would be a 6 month contract with a further year on the table if he wants to stay come May.

[theonlywayisup]

This seems most likely. It's a question of who blinks first.

Or KC's head being turned by a huge offer from China! :greengrin:

China Red Buffet restuarant maybe.

Okay - Commons has done okay in a few games in Scotland's second tier. He's not been a stand-out in all games or even large chunks of games. That said, you can tell he was a very good player and that class is still there. However, he is not fit, over weight and 33. His next big pay packet is in the past. No English team or any other foreign team is going to take a risk on an over weight 33 year old. He's no future at Celtic.

To me, his choices are limited. He's now in the player coach stage of a footballer's career.

I've no doubt in my mind that he realises that Hibs, under Lennon, gives him a great opportunity to extend his career at a team with circa 13k fans and also possibly a move into a coaching role. Where else is he going to get that opportunity?

[Marco G]

Assuming you're correct, the scenario must be along the following assumptions:

Commons salary is around £12k per week.
Hibs want to / can only afford £2k per week.
Celtic say they will only pay £8k if he is on loan.
So Commons has to accept a £2k drop if he comes back to us.
Commons want's full whack so stays at Parkhead.

If that's reasonably near the facts, Hibs stick out for £2k contribution and hope that Celtic will back down or at least come to a compromise in order to get at least some contribution to Commons' wage, or he accepts a compromise. :dunno:
Rodgers did not say much, other than it was up to Commons to think about his long term future as well as short term future. No indication that Celtic are bothered about finances or their own interests. Seems like they appreciate all he has contributed over the years and are leaving it to him to decide his own options.

The idea that Celtic would stand in his way for a few grand a week is not likely imo.

[Greenworld]

China Red Buffet restuarant maybe.

Okay - Commons has done okay in a few games in Scotland's second tier. He's not been a stand-out in all games or even large chunks of games. That said, you can tell he was a very good player and that class is still there. However, he is not fit, over weight and 33. His next big pay packet is in the past. No English team or any other foreign team is going to take a risk on an over weight 33 year old. He's no future at Celtic.

To me, his choices are limited. He's now in the player coach stage of a footballer's career.

I've no doubt in my mind that he realises that Hibs, under Lennon, gives him a great opportunity to extend his career at a team with circa 13k fans and also possibly a move into a coaching role. Where else is he going to get that opportunity?
LOL he can get a coaching role wherever he likes..crowd is circa 15k now by the way not 13k
I think he would make a huge difference to getting us up


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[BoomtownHibees]

China Red Buffet restuarant maybe.

Okay - Commons has done okay in a few games in Scotland's second tier. He's not been a stand-out in all games or even large chunks of games. That said, you can tell he was a very good player and that class is still there. However, he is not fit, over weight and 33. His next big pay packet is in the past. No English team or any other foreign team is going to take a risk on an over weight 33 year old. He's no future at Celtic.

To me, his choices are limited. He's now in the player coach stage of a footballer's career.

I've no doubt in my mind that he realises that Hibs, under Lennon, gives him a great opportunity to extend his career at a team with circa 13k fans and also possibly a move into a coaching role. Where else is he going to get that opportunity?

Wow. Talk him up why don't you.

Where does the rubbish that he's overweight come from?

[Brightside]

Hibs would stretch to £3k to get him late January for the remaining 18 weeks of the season - £54k would be money well spent so long as he doesn't get injured

They wont. We have a strict wage structure. They may over additional bonus payments but he wont be offered 3k a week to sign.

[Brightside]

Wow. Talk him up why don't you.

Where does the rubbish that he's overweight come from?

He is overweight. but he's technically better than most in scotland so can get away with - especially in this league.

[HoboHarry]

He is overweight. but he's technically better than most in scotland so can get away with - especially in this league.
Can you give us a link to a current photo (in a Hibs top) that shows these layers of flab that you allude to?

[BoomtownHibees]

He is overweight. but he's technically better than most in scotland so can get away with - especially in this league.

I'm not so sure tbh. He looks no more "overweight" now than what he ever has

[Marco G]

He is overweight. but he's technically better than most in scotland so can get away with - especially in this league.
Could you give some details on his bmi, biochemical indices etc please. You seem to know a lot! Fwiw he looks a fit guy to me but I dont have the benefit of seeing all the data like you do!

[Big L]

Rodgers was on tonight basically saying it's not just this season that concerns Commons but also the next 3 years. I don't think their is anyway he will get that length of deal from us.

[macca70]

If he decides to stay at Celtic then fine but imo it's short sighted and only to boost his bank balance.

Why not become a legend with us and that opens up so many avenues.

[malcolm]

could you give some details on his bmi, biochemical indices etc please. You seem to know a lot! Fwiw he looks a fit guy to me but i dont have the benefit of seeing all the data like you do!

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[MWHIBBIES]

If he decides to stay at Celtic then fine but imo it's short sighted and only to boost his bank balance.

Why not become a legend with us and that opens up so many avenues.He is 33, he is more than within his rights to be short sighted.

[Marco G]

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[jgl07]

He is 33, he is more than within his rights to be short sighted.
And how many clubs will offer a three year deal to a 33 year-old?

I can't see more than an 18 month contract being offered.

[2016 Delivered]

If he decides to stay at Celtic then fine but imo it's short sighted and only to boost his bank balance.

Why not become a legend with us and that opens up so many avenues.

Unless we win the Scottish cup (again, yes I can't believe it haha) he won't become a legend with us in a team full of legends. He will become part of the coaching staff or more importantly Lennons coaching staff if he signs which means if Lennon does his job right and good, gets a bigger offer, Commons, if he shows the loyalty and trust to Lennon he will go with him, learning his trade.

[2016 Delivered]

And how many clubs will offer a three year deal to a 33 year-old?

I can't see more than an 18 month contract being offered.

It won't. 18 month is what's being discussed.

[MWHIBBIES]

And how many clubs will offer a three year deal to a 33 year-old?

I can't see more than an 18 month contract being offered.1 year in the US earns him more than 5 years at Hibs. He will be considering his options and rightly so.

[houstonhibbee]

It won't. 18 month is what's being discussed.
and this you know how?

or in other words - how do you know this?

[2016 Delivered]

and this you know how?

or in other words - how do you know this?

Sorry. Just what I've heard through different sources. I'm not in the know.

[mcfly]

Can't believe some of the rubbish being written in these pages.

A top class player who had been out of action for nearly 12 months has played about 5 games for us.

He has scored 2 vital goals and we are questioning his weight.

Deary me - the guy is class and his experience is worth loads on the pitch to our younger players.

We can afford him - crowds are 5k up on last year.

[houstonhibbee]

Sorry. Just what I've heard through different sources. I'm not in the know.
So he would sacrifice the remainder of his 12k pw with Celtic to get 18 months on 2k with Hibs ?

[BoomtownHibees]

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[J-C]

So he would sacrifice the remainder of his 12k pw with Celtic to get 18 months on 2k with Hibs ?


Nope, he'll get a pay off from Celtic which covers the rest of this season, we will not be offering £2k it'll be more than that, nearer £4K with all the add ons. Commons wife is heavily involved in a couple of charities in Scotland, these charities are for families who have had still born babies, which Common and his wife had. His kids are also very settled at school in Glasgow, he won't want to be too far away in the next 2-3 years, a player/coach role might interest him at this stage in his career, he was seemingly doing some coaching while he was here.

[houstonhibbee]

Nope, he'll get a pay off from Celtic which covers the rest of this season, we will not be offering £2k it'll be more than that, nearer £4K with all the add ons. Commons wife is heavily involved in a couple of charities in Scotland, these charities are for families who have had still born babies, which Common and his wife had. His kids are also very settled at school in Glasgow, he won't want to be too far away in the next 2-3 years, a player/coach role might interest him at this stage in his career, he was seemingly doing some coaching while he was here.
so Hibs will pay him 4k pw for 18 months?

[Babyshamble]

Hibs news on twiiter saying we're looking to cut shinnies loan deal to get commons in .

[houstonhibbee]

Hibs news on twiiter saying we're looking to cut shinnies loan deal to get commons in .
Cant see that happening based on his recent performances...

[The Leith Dutch]

Can't believe some of the rubbish being written in these pages.

A top class player who had been out of action for nearly 12 months has played about 5 games for us.

He has scored 2 vital goals and we are questioning his weight.

Deary me - the guy is class and his experience is worth loads on the pitch to our younger players.

We can afford him - crowds are 5k up on last year.

A lot of folk - not necessarily you :) - basing what we can afford on Commons in isolation and it's more complicated than that.
If Commons gets 4k a week (to pull one of the figures out the air) I'd imagine that several other important players would be asking for a raise.

[lucky]

KC is taking his time and quite rightly so. He's on very good money at Celtic and will want every penny if he's to move on. I think that a move to the USA would suit him. A lot more cash than Hibs and a good quality of life for his family. They can return to Scotland later on in life and pick up again on the charity work. But as others have said he might just be settled here so you never know

[BoomtownHibees]

Cant see that happening based on his recent performances...

Eh? I would gladly cut Shinnie's loan short if it meant we could keep Commons

[houstonhibbee]

Eh? I would gladly cut Shinnie's loan short if it meant we could keep Commons
How can we cut his loan short if no-one else wants him because of uninspiring performances? We can't just renage on our agreement to keep him to the end of the season because we want to

[Viva_Palmeiras]

And how many clubs will offer a three year deal to a 33 year-old?

I can't see more than an 18 month contract being offered.

Hearts have them lining up...

[Brooster]

There's folk on here just making things up as they go along.

[supermcginn]

Cant see that happening based on his recent performances...

Shinnie couldnt lace commons boots, he cant get near the team at the minute so I would say there's every chance of him going back to Birmingham

[Phil MaGlass]

OK lets say I am a celtic player earning 12 k per week, I have an offer from Hibs for between 2-4 k for 18 months, thers no way on this planet I would take an 8k drop in wages at the end of my career just so I could play for Hibs.

[blackpoolhibs]

OK lets say I am a celtic player earning 12 k per week, I have an offer from Hibs for between 2-4 k for 18 months, thers no way on this planet I would take an 8k drop in wages at the end of my career just so I could play for Hibs.

You might if you got a pay off that gave you the balance from celtic?

I'd imagine he wants to play, and thats clearly not going to happen at parkead.

He will either sign for us, someone else or stay put. :wink:

[Winston Ingram]

OK lets say I am a celtic player earning 12 k per week, I have an offer from Hibs for between 2-4 k for 18 months, thers no way on this planet I would take an 8k drop in wages at the end of my career just so I could play for Hibs.

He'll never get £4k off us. £2k absolute max

[Winston Ingram]

Shinnie couldnt lace commons boots, he cant get near the team at the minute so I would say there's every chance of him going back to Birmingham

I wouldn't be disappointed with this.

I wonder if he could ship him out to St Johnstone to help them replace Swanson:hmmm:

[I'm_cabbaged]

I wouldn't be disappointed with this.

I wonder if he could ship him out to St Johnstone to help them replace Swanson:hmmm:

He's not our player to ship out?

[H18 SFR]

I totally understand the frustration with Shinnie. He was very good in the SPL and had a good spell at Birmingham to start off. It's a pity it's not working out because there is defo a player in there.

[BoomtownHibees]

How can we cut his loan short if no-one else wants him because of uninspiring performances? We can't just renage on our agreement to keep him to the end of the season because we want to

How do you know that? Players get their loans cut short all the time. Tony Watt if you want a recent example

[mjhibby]

Rodgers was on tonight basically saying it's not just this season that concerns Commons but also the next 3 years. I don't think their is anyway he will get that length of deal from us.

I don't think Rodgers is interested in what happens with commons. Celtic are obviously waiting to see if anybody else will want Kris on loan and get more of his wages paid. It will go to the last couple of days of the window most likely. Not ideal for us but that's the way it looks.

[California-Hibs]

He'll never get £4k off us. £2k absolute max

Just wondering what your basing that on because everyone I've known to have close connections with the club always state that the 2k mark is completely wrong and we do pay around 4K to our highest rating players. Just what I've been told/heard over the last few years.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Can't believe some of the rubbish being written in these pages.

A top class player who had been out of action for nearly 12 months has played about 5 games for us.

He has scored 2 vital goals and we are questioning his weight.

Deary me - the guy is class and his experience is worth loads on the pitch to our younger players.

We can afford him - crowds are 5k up on last year.

I've not gone back through the thread but, looks like only one poster questioning his weight.

[scoopyboy]

Just wondering what your basing that on because everyone I've known to have close connections with the club always state that the 2k mark is completely wrong and we do pay around 4K to our highest rating players. Just what I've been told/heard over the last few years.

No player at Easter Road has a basic above £2k.

Win bonuses could possibly get it up to that figure though.

[Since90+2]

Hibs highest earner is on 2k a week basic. No chance Commons will get double that even if its only for 6 months.

[2016 Delivered]

I totally understand the frustration with Shinnie. He was very good in the SPL and had a good spell at Birmingham to start off. It's a pity it's not working out because there is defo a player in there.

He will sign for Dundee or someone and be amazing . Absolutel nap.

[Golden Bear]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

[BlackSheep]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

This.

Shinnie is out and out one of our best players this season. He seems to get a lot of criticism as he does seem to make errors but this is mostly due to the fact he is involved with almost every attacking play we make, when he is on the pitch.

The more he is on the ball the more he will get noticed when he makes a bad pass or doesn't release the ball, but overall Shinnie has been up there with the best this year...... and like every football squad, a dip in form gives someone else the chance and if they take it then you have to bide your time for your next chance.... Just look at Cummings! (and Fontaine now we have changed shape!).

Football is a squad game, not just a team game these days too... we need a strong and deep squad to finish this season in first place as well as make efforts to retain the Scottish Cup.... a shallow squad has been our downfall in seasons past and I think Lennon sees this.

[BoomtownHibees]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

That's just nonsense

[BoomtownHibees]

This.

Shinnie is out and out one of our best players this season. He seems to get a lot of criticism as he does seem to make errors but this is mostly due to the fact he is involved with almost every attacking play we make, when he is on the pitch.

The more he is on the ball the more he will get noticed when he makes a bad pass or doesn't release the ball, but overall Shinnie has been up there with the best this year...... and like every football squad, a dip in form gives someone else the chance and if they take it then you have to bide your time for your next chance.... Just look at Cummings! (and Fontaine now we have changed shape!).

Football is a squad game, not just a team game these days too... we need a strong and deep squad to finish this season in first place as well as make efforts to retain the Scottish Cup.... a shallow squad has been our downfall in seasons past and I think Lennon sees this.

No he hasn't. I'd have McGregor, Hanlon, McGinn, Fyvie and Cummings all above in the the stakes for being our best player this season. Add in what Commons has contributed in his games so far and Shinnie doesn't come close to being "our best player" this season

[Blaster]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

I think he looks a player with a bit of class but doesn't do it often enough. He's been no better than average for us

[Golden Bear]

No he hasn't. I'd have McGregor, Hanlon, McGinn, Fyvie and Cummings all above in the the stakes for being our best player this season. Add in what Commons has contributed in his games so far and Shinnie doesn't come close to being "our best player" this season

I think his post said "one of our best players." Which is absolutely correct.

[HibbySpurs]

You might if you got a pay off that gave you the balance from celtic?

I'd imagine he wants to play, and thats clearly not going to happen at parkead.

He will either sign for us, someone else or stay put. :wink:

I do love the way you state the bleedin obvious :cb:cb:wink:

[Greenworld]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.
I'll send you my shopping list cause your vision is clearly impaired

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[BoomtownHibees]

I think his post said "one of our best players." Which is absolutely correct.

When you have at least 6 that have been better then, for me, he wouldn't come under the banner of "one of our best players"

[B.H.F.C]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

An attacking midfielder that has contributed one goal this season. A few assists as well in fairness. He's shown flashes of quality but he hasn't shown his 'class' on a consistent basis whatsoever.

[Peevemor]

I think he looks a player with a bit of class but doesn't do it often enough. He's been no better than average for us


I think we expect too much from some players too soon - that they hit the ground running. It doesn't always work like that - especially in midfield.

I remember when Hibs signed Pat McGinaly from Blackpool. He wasn't a laddie - he was already 21 and he made his debut at the beginning of season 88-89. I think most people thought he was a reasonable player, but there definitely wasn't a "wow" thing.

It wasn't until season 91-92 that he started scoring regularly, until then he'd only totalled a handful of league goals.

These days it seems that many would want to empty him after 6 months.

http://www.fitbastats.com/hibs/player_games.php?playerid=6327&page=11

[Ozyhibby]

If Shinnie is one of our best players, why does the manager keep dropping him? He's an attacking midfielder, where are all the goals and assists? Fact is, it's not working out for him for whatever reason. He was a decent player previously but has lost his edge.
If he is no longer in the team then it's probably best for all concerned that he returns to his club and goes where he can get game time.


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[Springbank]

An attacking midfielder that has contributed one goal this season. A few assists as well in fairness. He's shown flashes of quality but he hasn't shown his 'class' on a consistent basis whatsoever.

Agreed

[Blaster]

I think we expect too much from some players too soon - that they hit the groud running. It doesn't always work like that - especially in midfield.

I remember when Hibs signed Pat McGinaly from Blackpool. He wasn't a laddie - he was already 21 and he made his debut at the beginning of season 88-89. I think most people thought he was a reasonable player, but there definitely wasn't a "wow" thing.

It wasn't until season 91-92 that he started scoring regularly, until then he'd only totalled a handful of league goals.

These days it seems that many would want to empty him after 6 months.

http://www.fitbastats.com/hibs/player_games.php?playerid=6327&page=11

Yes agree with the expectation point. He has got ability but I still think he's been average for us and not one of our best players of the season so far as has been suggested

[supermcginn]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

Maybe lennon will be down the shops tomorrow then because he hardly ever picks him! I wouldn't pick him ahead of any of our other midfielders that's for sure.

[MWHIBBIES]

If Shinnie is one of our best players, why does the manager keep dropping him? He's an attacking midfielder, where are all the goals and assists? Fact is, it's not working out for him for whatever reason. He was a decent player previously but has lost his edge.
If he is no longer in the team then it's probably best for all concerned that he returns to his club and goes where he can get game time.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkPretty sure he has 7/8 assists.

[Jim Herriot]

There's folk on here just making things up as they go along.

Dumfries YMCA set to swoop for Andy Halliday.

[HappyAsHellas]

Think it's 5 assists, but in 16 games that's an improvement from our midfield stats from last season. I still think he'll play a vital role for us this season though and would be sad to see him go in this window.

[CMurdoch]

Hibs highest earner is on 2k a week basic. No chance Commons will get double that even if its only for 6 months.

4 months surely. End of Jan to End of May. £50k well spent

[California-Hibs]

No player at Easter Road has a basic above £2k.

Win bonuses could possibly get it up to that figure though.

Ah. Perhaps that's where the miscommunication has came in and it's closer to 4k a week after win bonuses and 2k basic. That win bonus will be a welcome extra with how regularly we win this season.

[AlbertK86]

This. Shinnie is out and out one of our best players this season. He seems to get a lot of criticism as he does seem to make errors but this is mostly due to the fact he is involved with almost every attacking play we make, when he is on the pitch. The more he is on the ball the more he will get noticed when he makes a bad pass or doesn't release the ball, but overall Shinnie has been up there with the best this year...... and like every football squad, a dip in form gives someone else the chance and if they take it then you have to bide your time for your next chance.... Just look at Cummings! (and Fontaine now we have changed shape!). Football is a squad game, not just a team game these days too... we need a strong and deep squad to finish this season in first place as well as make efforts to retain the Scottish Cup.... a shallow squad has been our downfall in seasons past and I think Lennon sees this.

Totally agree.

Very similar situation as to when Fyvie got berated for slack passes and getting caught in possession. He takes the ball so often by making himself available and trying to make thing happens.

Glad to see that most people now recognise how important a player Fyvie is for us.

Still believe Shinnie has a big part to play for us. He will get his chance when injuries suspensions kick in

[malcolm]

Can all pick random photos to suit our own argument

What and whose argument? I didn't even open my mouth for you to put words in :wink: let alone express an opinion on the player's weight, BMI or fitness. It's for others, if they to wish or not, to form an opinion on an apparent pictorial contrast.

[SteveHFC]

EXCLUSIVE: @AberdeenFC plan swoop for @CelticFC’s Kris Commons if they lose Jonny Hayes to @CardiffCityFC thesun.uk/60148R1km

[SouthMoroccoStu]

EXCLUSIVE: @AberdeenFC plan swoop for @CelticFC’s Kris Commons if they lose Jonny Hayes to @CardiffCityFC thesun.uk/60148R1km

Hmmmm worth running this by Kenny Miller (the sun reporter)

He's always on the money with these things

[Stokesy's on fire]

EXCLUSIVE: @AberdeenFC plan swoop for @CelticFC’s Kris Commons if they lose Jonny Hayes to @CardiffCityFC thesun.uk/60148R1km

I had to laugh at that article. The diddy dons have no chance

[Stokesy's on fire]

Hmmmm worth running this by Kenny Miller (the sun reporter)

He's always on the money with these things

@scotsunsport @AberdeenFC @celticfc utter bull****!! Made up nonsense with no substance. Lifted from a Dons forum

[CMurdoch]

EXCLUSIVE: @AberdeenFC plan swoop for @CelticFC’s Kris Commons if they lose Jonny Hayes to @CardiffCityFC thesun.uk/60148R1km

We want Commons because we MUST get promotion.
Why would Aberdeen push the boat out for him financially.
So they might beat Hearts to 3rd. No real point.

[truehibernian]

EXCLUSIVE: @AberdeenFC plan swoop for @CelticFC’s Kris Commons if they lose Jonny Hayes to @CardiffCityFC thesun.uk/60148R1km

More likely McInnes would try and sign MOH from The Rangers

[Golden Bear]

From BBC's daily gossip column.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38703511

[2016 Delivered]

@scotsunsport @AberdeenFC @celticfc utter bull****!! Made up nonsense with no substance. Lifted from a Dons forum

No it's not.

[Heisenberg]

Why would Aberdeen replace a rapid left winger with Kris Commons? Makes no sense to me.

[Tyler Durden]

I think we expect too much from some players too soon - that they hit the ground running. It doesn't always work like that - especially in midfield.

I remember when Hibs signed Pat McGinaly from Blackpool. He wasn't a laddie - he was already 21 and he made his debut at the beginning of season 88-89. I think most people thought he was a reasonable player, but there definitely wasn't a "wow" thing.

It wasn't until season 91-92 that he started scoring regularly, until then he'd only totalled a handful of league goals.

These days it seems that many would want to empty him after 6 months.

http://www.fitbastats.com/hibs/player_games.php?playerid=6327&page=11

I agree with your point generally but don't see this applying to Shinnie.

We have a player coming from a much higher level to play in the Scottish Championship. It's reasonable that we expect him to perform immediately and consistently be contributing goals and assists.

He's done that in flashes but prior to Xmas had some truely shocking games. Utd and Morton away for example when we needed much more from him.

I wouldn't be unhappy to see him replace Commons today but he needs to show some serious improvement.

Also I understood Hibs could not cancel his loan in January - Shinnie was quoted explaining the importance of having a full season somewhere. Sounded like he had it agreed he'd be here for the season

[Eyrie]

Also I understood Hibs could not cancel his loan in January - Shinnie was quoted explaining the importance of having a full season somewhere. Sounded like he had it agreed he'd be here for the season

Based on that quote he would want to be playing regularly, so if we sign Commons then Shinnie may prefer to go elsewhere and Hibs would presumably be happy to get him off the wage bill. That would leave the final decision up to Birmingham who may not want him back, so he'd have to find another club to take him first.

[J-C]

Based on that quote he would want to be playing regularly, so if we sign Commons then Shinnie may prefer to go elsewhere and Hibs would presumably be happy to get him off the wage bill. That would leave the final decision up to Birmingham who may not want him back, so he'd have to find another club to take him first.

Correct, it all depends if we sign Commons, if that happens then Shinnie will be purely a back up and nothing more, does he want that? he probably expected to be a starter every week when he came in.

[snooky]

Correct, it all depends if we sign Commons, if that happens then Shinnie will be purely a back up and nothing more, does he want that? he probably expected to be a starter every week when he came in.

BBC sport page saying Aberdeen are set to steal Commons from under Hibs' nose if Johnny Hayes moves to Cardiff. :hmmm:

[J-C]

BBC sport page saying Aberdeen are set to steal Commons from under Hibs' nose if Johnny Hayes moves to Cardiff. :hmmm:

If you believe that.

[GreenLake]

BBC sport page saying Aberdeen are set to steal Commons from under Hibs' nose if Johnny Hayes moves to Cardiff. :hmmm:

Aberdeen mount absolutely no challenge for the title so I doubt it.

[hibees 7062]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.

This :agree:

[Golden Bear]

Could someone maybe tell me who was man of the match today? 😉

[Glory Lurker]

Could someone maybe tell me who was man of the match today? 😉

Yep. :agree:

[cmcd]

Yep. :agree:

Correct

[northstandhibby]

Could someone maybe tell me who was man of the match today? 😉

I don't know for sure. But maybe Keatings?

Glory Glory

[supermcginn]

Could someone maybe tell me who was man of the match today? 😉

If a guy coming from a club representing the 2nd biggest city in britain cant stand out against guys who play junior football in scotland then there's something wrong! Hope he is on the bench next week purely because that'll mean commons is back!

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

Hope we manage to keep a hold of commons till the summer as he's contributed significantly in a short period of team. If we don't then we've got Shinnie to come back in. Would agree with those saying he's a quality player and the similarities to the comments about Fyvie previously. He gets on the ball and sometimes it doesn't come off for him but he'll never hide and still thinks the next ball will come good.

Commons to Aberdeen isn't a bad shout tbh. IF Hayes does go then the sheep, and the board in particular will be under pressure to take a gamble to keep off rangers. They might be able to offer a decent enough 18 month deal to go there

[Glory Lurker]

I don't know for sure. But maybe Keatings?

Glory Glory

A definite shout, but Shinnie comfortable motm for me.

[houstonhibbee]

If a guy coming from a club representing the 2nd biggest city in britain cant stand out against guys who play junior football in scotland then there's something wrong! Hope he is on the bench next week purely because that'll mean commons is back!
so if all the team were supposed to be standouts by your reckoning he was the standout of the standouts if he was voted MOTM

[Off the bar]

Brendan Rodgers quote from article about Scott Brown;

"There might be one or two players who go out on loan. I suspect there will be some change in the squad before the end of the window."

Might give us some hope for KC coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38721153

[HoboHarry]

Brendan Rodgers quote from article about Scott Brown;

"There might be one or two players who go out on loan. I suspect there will be some change in the squad before the end of the window."

Might give us some hope for KC coming back.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38721153
Leigh Griffiths anaw maybe....

:greengrin

[pacoluna]

The thread has been hijacked but I will say that Shinnie is a class football player and anyone who doesn't recognise this would be better employed visiting the shops on a Saturday afternoon.


I haven't been to impressed with him. Its what he does for hibs that I will base my opinion on not previous or current employers. I don't think he will be here next season.

[Dashing Bob S]

I haven't been to impressed with him. Its what he does for hibs that I will base my opinion on not previous or current employers. I don't think he will be here next season.

Like Shinnie as a footballer, but he's a bit lightweight and there is more than a suggestion that he's one of that most infuriating of breeds 'the confidence player' for whom several ducks have to lined up before he hits the level of performance he's capable of.

[southsider]

I think cup draw makes KC coming to ER more likely. Ticket & TV money may well fund his wage. Not ITK but just my thoughts.

[Nicho87]

After one week of back to how it was for him before he came to us he's bound to be wanting a move done asap. Its his last move he might get. Surely an early agreement can get sorted.

[houstonhibbee]

After one week of back to how it was for him before he came to us he's bound to be wanting a move done asap. Its his last move he might get. Surely an early agreement can get sorted.
Theres only 9 days to go so we will know soon enough. I just hope hibs don't leave it too late to bring in anyone else if it doesn't happen.

[Marco G]

Theres only 9 days to go so we will know soon enough. I just hope hibs don't leave it too late to bring in anyone else if it doesn't happen.
Think our recruitment team are on the ball. But we may not be looking for anybody else if we dont get him, from what Neil Lennon and Leeann have been saying.

[truehibernian]

Think our recruitment team are on the ball. But we may not be looking for anybody else if we dont get him, from what Neil Lennon and Leeann have been saying.

Wonder why Danny Swanson is dragging his heels signing on at Saintees ?

[ancient hibee]

Wonder why Danny Swanson is dragging his heels signing on at Saintees ?
Because he doesn't have to.He can wait until the end of the season.The offer will still be there I would think.

[truehibernian]

Because he doesn't have to.He can wait until the end of the season.The offer will still be there I would think.

It was tongue in cheek AH - we are looking to get him.

[ancient hibee]

It was tongue in cheek AH - we are looking to get him.
But not trying too hard I'm told:greengrin

[smithy_hibees]

Commons won't be back at ER.. You either extend his loan while at the club.. We didn't for whatever reason, so we move on and play Shinni/keathings in that role or change our formation and play 2 up top again

[truehibernian]

Commons won't be back at ER.. You either extend his loan while at the club.. We didn't for whatever reason, so we move on and play Shinni/keathings in that role or change our formation and play 2 up top again

I think you're wrong.

[smithy_hibees]

I think you're wrong.

Do you think he'll return ??

[J-C]

Commons won't be back at ER.. You either extend his loan while at the club.. We didn't for whatever reason, so we move on and play Shinni/keathings in that role or change our formation and play 2 up top again

He was here on an emergency loan, you cannot extend it so simply.

A new agreement has to be made for a new loan deal, seeing it's longer than the 1 month emergency, Celtic may want more money for a longer deal, or Commons is negotiating a release and we're trying to tie up a wage plan for him.

[dp00]

Wonder why Danny Swanson is dragging his heels signing on at Saintees ?

He lost one of his best mates at new year so maybe he just fancies staying out just now to deal with that


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[truehibernian]

He lost one of his best mates at new year so maybe he just fancies staying out just now to deal with that


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Sadly I'm very well aware of that mate - was merely pointing out we're well in the hunt for him. Like Daz, he played this weekend hence I'm curious as to why he hasn't signed on with Saintees - I'm hoping he's a Hibs player soon.

[Cod Boy]

Looks like Ryan Christie is going to Aberdeen on loan maybe the start of a Celtic clear out.

[RossScott1991]

6 points clear, from two Commons winners away from home. Think that shows how big a player he could be for us til end of season, throw in game against hearts also, could be a vital player for us. Don't think he is scottish cup tied ? so a incentive for him to be coming to a club that is chasing winning league/promotion and still in the SC. Makes sense on all parties, whether we can fund it is the other question.

[Jack Hackett]

6 points clear, from two Commons winners away from home. Think that shows how big a player he could be for us til end of season, throw in game against hearts also, could be a vital player for us. Don't think he is scottish cup tied ? so a incentive for him to be coming to a club that is chasing winning league/promotion and still in the SC. Makes sense on all parties, whether we can fund it is the other question.

Money spinning replay :wink:

[Slavoj Zizek]

First post.

Let's cut through the ITK/Private Board circle-jerking.

Has Commons signed yet or is this another Henderson-esque thread.

SZ

[SRHibs]

First post.

Let's cut through the ITK/Private Board circle-jerking.

Has Commons signed yet or is this another Henderson-esque thread.

SZ

Maybe:wink:
















Just kidding, I have no idea. The PM board is OTK as this one.

[houstonhibbee]

First post.

Let's cut through the ITK/Private Board circle-jerking.

Has Commons signed yet or is this another Henderson-esque thread.

SZ

No. Everything thing else just speculation

[Slavoj Zizek]

No. Everything thing else just speculation

A winning post.

:top marks

[houstonhibbee]

A winning post.

:top marks
First post to winning post in 12 minutes there....

[hibees 7062]

Looks like Ryan Christie is going to Aberdeen on loan maybe the start of a Celtic clear out.

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265966_1849670051981228_2644825067151438322_n.jp g?oh=08c1cdb19327323c5f275ec8247914f2&oe=5908ACCA

[JimBHibees]

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265966_1849670051981228_2644825067151438322_n.jp g?oh=08c1cdb19327323c5f275ec8247914f2&oe=5908ACCA

That surely can't be real.

[2016 Delivered]

That surely can't be real.

It's verified 😂😂😂

[Heisenberg]

His twitter account no longer exists funnily enough :greengrin

[hibees 7062]

That surely can't be real.

He's just deleted it

[Jack Hackett]

He's just deleted it

Ooops! Too late....You cannot delete the internet :greengrin


Edit

....Lots of people need to realise this fact

[Andy74]

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265966_1849670051981228_2644825067151438322_n.jp g?oh=08c1cdb19327323c5f275ec8247914f2&oe=5908ACCA

Sounds like a lovely young man.

[HoboHarry]

Ach min, furry boots thon internet delete button.......... ochone ochone.......

Teuchters - canna live wi' then and canna live withoot them min.......:greengrin

[IWasThere2016]

Nah, I don't think for a second anything has been agreed, there's too many possible outcomes so discussions are clearly still a work in progress.

I don't think anybody knows what's going to happen at this stage, including Neil Lennon, Kris Commons, his agent, Petrie, Dempster, anyone at Celtic and certainly not anybody on here.

He might sign, he might not but anyone claiming to have inside info is making an educated guess and hoping for the best IMO.

Yup - I'm with you and Brooster on this one. A lot of guesswork going on..

[Stokesy's on fire]

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265966_1849670051981228_2644825067151438322_n.jp g?oh=08c1cdb19327323c5f275ec8247914f2&oe=5908ACCA

He's spot on with that tweet. Aberdeen are a horrible wee club

[Big L]

Aberdeen just signed Ryan Christie from Celtic on loan.

[houstonhibbee]

Aberdeen just signed Ryan Christie from Celtic on loan.
probably discounts them from chasing Commons as well then

[Stokesy's on fire]

probably discounts them from chasing Commons as well then

Commons wages discounts him from most Scottish sides I would imagine.

[smithy_hibees]

He was here on an emergency loan, you cannot extend it so simply.

A new agreement has to be made for a new loan deal, seeing it's longer than the 1 month emergency, Celtic may want more money for a longer deal, or Commons is negotiating a release and we're trying to tie up a wage plan for him.

Surely we work harder within the month we have him to extend his deal, no way was he ever going be match after the few games we had him, so you'd think we'd have plan in place to extend it whist at the club.. Even if it's different terms/deal as you've said
I stand by what I say unfortunately he won't be back Easter Road..

[Brightside]

Yup - I'm with you and Brooster on this one. A lot of guesswork going on..

Nothing has been agreed. BUT we are very close. He may still decide on other options. But we are in for him, we want him, and the financial with Celtic isn't an issue. Left sided winger still being worked on also.

[Heisenberg]

A left sided winger would be absolutely ideal. I'd probably prioritise that over signing Commons if it was a choice.

[J-C]

Surely we work harder within the month we have him to extend his deal, no way was he ever going be match after the few games we had him, so you'd think we'd have plan in place to extend it whist at the club.. Even if it's different terms/deal as you've said
I stand by what I say unfortunately he won't be back Easter Road..

We can't agree a deal with the player when he's here, that's called tapping up, the deal has to be struck with Celtic as they pay his wages after his emergency loan deal is finished. I'm sure Commons would know we wanted him for longer but as his loan was only for a month, Celtic would want more of his wages paid if we wanted to extend it for the rest of the season, say we paid £2k of his £12k wages for the month, I'm pretty sure Celtic will want more of a percentage paid.
Commons may also be trying to get his contract paid up and could be negotiating right now with Celtic, he might want the full contract paid in full but Celtic don't and want to pay less. Then there's his wages from us if he negotiates a deal with Celtic, all these things take time you know.

[Lago]

Nothing has been agreed. BUT we are very close. He may still decide on other options. But we are in for him, we want him, and the financial with Celtic isn't an issue. Left sided winger still being worked on also.
Not according to todays papers, deal will fail because of money.

[Borderhibbie76]

Not according to todays papers, deal will fail because of money.
Il believe Underscore any day over the wee weegie mafia thanks

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[essexhibee]

Nothing has been agreed. BUT we are very close. He may still decide on other options. But we are in for him, we want him, and the financial with Celtic isn't an issue. Left sided winger still being worked on also.

A winger is great news :aok: two flanks with pace will make a massive difference to us

[SouthMoroccoStu]

Il believe Underscore any day over the wee weegie mafia thanks

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:agree:

[Lago]

Il believe Underscore any day over the wee weegie mafia thanks

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Your welcome, just reporting what I read.

[BOB MARLEYS DUG]

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265966_1849670051981228_2644825067151438322_n.jp g?oh=08c1cdb19327323c5f275ec8247914f2&oe=5908ACCA

It's not real. Theres an app where you can do stuff like that.

[CallumLaidlaw]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170126/a47f5e6ece1e9a36088a2db00599baf8.jpg


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[hibee_girl]

It's not real. Theres an app where you can do stuff like that.

If it's not real why has he apologised?

[Dombie]

That's the troll account. He's replaced the L in Scotland with a capital I.

[J-C]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170126/a47f5e6ece1e9a36088a2db00599baf8.jpg


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Love the name at the bottom, Jamesy lol

[The_Exile]

It's not real. Theres an app where you can do stuff like that.

The original tweet where he says he hates the sheep was sent in 2012, almost 5 years ago, looks like someone has been doing some digging and retweeted it when it looked like he was signing for them. Bit of mischief making, if it's fake it's bloody good :greengrin

[Johnny_Leith]

If we get commons for the rest of the season, I'd be delighted. Quality player and would go some way to helping us confirm our goals this season.

[Brightside]

Il believe Underscore any day over the wee weegie mafia thanks

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Its up to Commons. He has two offers from MLS. If he wants the money he will go state side.... just need to hope his missus doesnt fancy it. The Aberdeen thing is bollox.

[GreenLake]

Its up to Commons. He has two offers from MLS. If he wants the money he will go state side.... just need to hope his missus doesnt fancy it. The Aberdeen thing is bollox.

San Jose Earthquakes have signed Cummings (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/01/08/san-jose-earthquakes-sign-panamanian-center-back-harold-cummings).

[snooky]

San Jose Earthquakes have signed Cummings (http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/01/08/san-jose-earthquakes-sign-panamanian-center-back-harold-cummings).

Didn't see that Cumming :greengrin

[H18 SFR]

Can't see him getting the P1 visa...

[houstonhibbee]

Its up to Commons. He has two offers from MLS. If he wants the money he will go state side.... just need to hope his missus doesnt fancy it. The Aberdeen thing is bollox.
Lennon saying waiting on commons making a decision. If it doesn't happen feels we are well covered in midfield but still pursuing a couple of options in other positions

[R'Albin]

It's not real. Theres an app where you can do stuff like that.

It is real. He ended up having to take his Twitter down. He also tweeted his phone number a few years back and it turned out to still be his.

[Radium]

It is real. He ended up having to take his Twitter down. He also tweeted his phone number a few years back and it turned out to still be his.

Date relates to our semi final with the dons


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[Jack Hackett]

Lennon saying waiting on commons making a decision. If it doesn't happen feels we are well covered in midfield but still pursuing a couple of options in other positions

This is where I am. Commons would be icing on the cake whereas someone like Henderson would be a key ingredient in said cake.

[Lago]

Nothing has been agreed. BUT we are very close. He may still decide on other options. But we are in for him, we want him, and the financial with Celtic isn't an issue. Left sided winger still being worked on also.

Doesn't look good according to MSM

[Andy74]

This is where I am. Commons would be icing on the cake whereas someone like Henderson would be a key ingredient in said cake.

Not really. We don't really need midfielders so why would Henderson be key? Commons isn't really required as such either but would potentially be the difference on days we are not be getting the result we should. So, Commons before Henderson for this season but from next season that would reverse.

[Brightside]

Doesn't look good according to MSM

Whats MSM?

[Greenworld]

None of us know looks like a last day job

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[grunt]

Whats MSM?

Main Stream Media (i.e. national press and radio).
I think the poster is referring to an article in the Record where they say Commons is staying put.

[Brightside]

Main Stream Media (i.e. national press and radio).
I think the poster is referring to an article in the Record where they say Commons is staying put.

ah right... thats pish. Rodgers wants him away now.

[SkintHibby]

Did anyone catch Brendan Rodgers after the game when he was asked about Commons?

Rodgers mentioned Hibs straight away and said it was well known Hibs wanted him but he has been "speaking to another club". Said if it did not work out he'd be happy to have him for the rest of the season.

Sometimes you can gauge the way someone says something but the way he replied told me he is not coming to Hibs (hope I'm wrong mind).

[Heisenberg]

Rodgers said Kris Commons was "in negotiations with the club" but did not rule out the 33-year-old playmaker seeing out his contract until the end of the season.

Commons has not featured for Rodgers at all and played five games for Hibernian on a recent emergency loan, scoring twice for the Championship leaders.

"He's had a back issue this week," revealed Rodgers. "I know Hibs really liked him and are probably looking to do a deal, but there are other considerations for Kris - it's not just about the next six months."

[SkintHibby]

Rodgers said Kris Commons was "in negotiations with the club" but did not rule out the 33-year-old playmaker seeing out his contract until the end of the season.

Commons has not featured for Rodgers at all and played five games for Hibernian on a recent emergency loan, scoring twice for the Championship leaders.

"He's had a back issue this week," revealed Rodgers. "I know Hibs really liked him and are probably looking to do a deal, but there are other considerations for Kris - it's not just about the next six months."

Did you also hear him say Commons is carrying an injury? Could not make out what he said after that.

[broondog]

don;t think we should get our hopes up here. Midfield is incredibly strong without him regardless

[Heisenberg]

Tam McManus saying he has it on "very good authority" that Commons won't be back at Hibs unless there is a dramatic turn of events. Hope his good authority isn't Chick Young or he'll end up looking rather silly.

[Cod Boy]

Tam McManus said on good authority he was a good striker never believed that as well.

[J-C]

don;t think we should get our hopes up here. Midfield is incredibly strong without him regardless


He's not really a midfielder though is he? plays in the hole between midfield and attack.

[Billy Whizz]

He's not really a midfielder though is he? plays in the hole between midfield and attack.

As can Hendo

[Lago]

Kind of looks like the longest of long shots that either one is coming to ER, but what will be will be & hibs must stay focused on continuing to win games.

[HibbySpurs]

As can Hendo

True but sadly Hendo doesn't play for us either.

Don't think either will be at Hibs on 01 Feb but that's life, we have enough already to secure promotion and then the summer to secure the improvements needed to have a good tilt at a Euro spot next season.

[IWasThere2016]

Don't think either will be at Hibs .. Believe we still need 1 or 2 in however..

[Jim44]

I think, deep down, we all know that Henderson will definitely not and Commons probably not be comming to ER. Given our recent ascendency, I think we have enough in the tank to see out the season without them but a couple of decent new faces would certainly gee up the resolve to do just that.

[truehibernian]

I think, deep down, we all know that Henderson will definitely not and Commons probably not be comming to ER. Given our recent ascendency, I think we have enough in the tank to see out the season without them but a couple of decent new faces would certainly gee up the resolve to do just that.

I still think the Commons deal will go to the wire Jim and I think he'll sign. What I didn't realise was the Stevie Mallan deal to Barnsley not going through - had me thinking that if the KC deal falters, over cash, then perhaps there's scope for bringing in SM under a similar deal to SJM.

I wouldn't say no to getting Mallan have to say - cracking player probably bereft of confidence in a miserable side. Hibs and Lennon could work wonders for him.

[jacomo]

I still think the Commons deal will go to the wire Jim and I think he'll sign. What I didn't realise was the Stevie Mallan deal to Barnsley not going through - had me thinking that if the KC deal falters, over cash, then perhaps there's scope for bringing in SM under a similar deal to SJM.

I wouldn't say no to getting Mallan have to say - cracking player probably bereft of confidence in a miserable side. Hibs and Lennon could work wonders for him.

Is Hendo a reasonable hope for the summer if we go up?

[Ozyhibby]

I still think the Commons deal will go to the wire Jim and I think he'll sign. What I didn't realise was the Stevie Mallan deal to Barnsley not going through - had me thinking that if the KC deal falters, over cash, then perhaps there's scope for bringing in SM under a similar deal to SJM.

I wouldn't say no to getting Mallan have to say - cracking player probably bereft of confidence in a miserable side. Hibs and Lennon could work wonders for him.

If Mallan was available then I would prefer him than Commons just because of his age.


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[truehibernian]

Is Hendo a reasonable hope for the summer if we go up?

An educated guess would say yes - on the basis of Hibs being promoted (hopefully) and Brendan Rodgers again intimating today that the summer window will be where they do business. Clearly he rates Liam or he wouldn't be on the bench.

Quandary for LH is how much football he wants against future possibilities with Celtic. Personally, I think he's a great prospect but Celtic have a history of looking elsewhere for midfield playmakers. He's developing really really well, has a winning mentality for one so young, but he needs to play regularly to fulfil potential - not just 20 minute cameos.

I think he would do well at Hibs as a regular, and equally think he'd then prosper down south where the game is less rushed and more technique orientated.

If we got LH it would be a real coup.

[truehibernian]

If Mallan was available then I would prefer him than Commons just because of his age.


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I've no info on Mallan, was surprised his Barnsley deal fell through Ozy - I thought it had been agreed. Now it's not I'm wondering if there's a little window of opportunity to get him.

[Ronniekirk]

It will go down to the wire re Commons Effe Ambrose getting linked again Hanlon looks like he needs a wee op to clear up pelvic issue
Still hoping for two additions to squad but Lennon now saying only one

[oldbutdim]

Having Awfy Ambrose in the side would certainly mean more goalmouth excitement.

[Forza Fred]

Aberdeen apparently other club interested in Commons.

Wherever he goes in his next deal...and presumably it won't be a loan...he is going to have to drastically drop his income.

Guess it gets down to whether we can offer him the best deal.

[bingo70]

It will go down to the wire re Commons Effe Ambrose getting linked again Hanlon looks like he needs a wee op to clear up pelvic issue
Still hoping for two additions to squad but Lennon now saying only one

Whoa there....Efe ambrose getting linked? Where about?

[Hibeewilly]

It will go down to the wire re Commons Effe Ambrose getting linked again Hanlon looks like he needs a wee op to clear up pelvic issue
Still hoping for two additions to squad but Lennon now saying only one
Where is NL saying that Ronnie?

[Ronniekirk]

Where is NL saying that Ronnie?

Was the Edinburgh Evening News but on second reading says at Least One Player

[hibs4life]

Maybe he's coming after all..

http://www.celticquicknews.co.uk/commons-exit/

"The Celtic manager said: “He had a good period at Hibs and they were keen to do something. It was between the clubs in terms of whether they could organise it, but also to do with Kris.


“His contract is up. He’s not just looking at the next six months, he is looking at the next few years.”"

[JeMeSouviens]

Kenny Millar update in the Sun - Hibs still hopeful on Commons plus a CB (not Ambrose) and a LW:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/508937/hibs-hope-to-bring-celtics-kris-commons-back-to-easter-road-but-efe-ambrose-wont-be-joining-him/

[Bristolhibby]

When does the transfer window "Slam Shut"?

Cheers

J

Edit - Just Googled. Closes 2300 tomorrow.

[Big_Franck]

Kenny Millar update in the Sun - Hibs still hopeful on Commons plus a CB (not Ambrose) and a LW:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/508937/hibs-hope-to-bring-celtics-kris-commons-back-to-easter-road-but-efe-ambrose-wont-be-joining-him/

After bikeygate i'll take what he says with a pinch of salt from now on.

[21sMay]

We tried to get a lw in from Bristol city but we had no joy , wonder who else is on the radar

[Mikey]

After bikeygate i'll take what he says with a pinch of salt from now on.

It wasn't him who said it.

[Col2]

After bikeygate i'll take what he says with a pinch of salt from now on.

He didn't report it. It was another sun journalist. 99% of the time he is right.

[HibsNutter]

Any chance of us getting Danny Swanson?

[Last Minute]

After bikeygate i'll take what he says with a pinch of salt from now on.


It was not Kenny that Reported that. if you look back Kenny is normally spot on.

[CallumLaidlaw]

It wasn't him who said it.

Correct. And it doesn't mean that the story wasn't true. Hibs DID believe that they had Bikey. His agent changed the goalposts at the last second and hearts came from nowhere.


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[Golden Bear]

Correct. And it doesn't mean that the story wasn't true. Hibs DID believe that they had Bikey. His agent changed the goalposts at the last second and hearts came from nowhere.


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Yet according to our Manager on a live radio broadcast, we didn't even put in an offer.

[HoboHarry]

Yet according to our Manager on a live radio broadcast, we didn't even put in an offer.
Could be that NL isn't "ITK"........ :wink:

[houstonhibbee]

Kenny Millar update in the Sun - Hibs still hopeful on Commons plus a CB (not Ambrose) and a LW:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/508937/hibs-hope-to-bring-celtics-kris-commons-back-to-easter-road-but-efe-ambrose-wont-be-joining-him/
He's still available so we must be in with a good shout with only one day left

[WhileTheChief..]

Sportsound are doing their 'through the window' thing tomorrow night up until midnight when the window closes.

[Col2]

BR saying in live press conference that he thinks Commons will remain at Celtic until end of season and he also references that player has back injury. Press conference just done for Aberdeen game.

Looks unlikely.

[ahibby]

Doesn't all the info we have mean that if KC doesn't agree a deal with any other team on a permanent contract. then he'll come to Hibs? If Celtic were to release him presumably they'd have to agree to pay his contract out? He will probably find it difficult to find a club who will pay him his current salary. So if Celtic released him perhaps he'd agree to just take the difference from Celtic. That would be the best deal for Celtic and him. Otherwise the next best thing would be for a club like Hibs to pay him what they can on a loan deal. If a club takes him permanently then they'll probably afford more towards his wage than Hibs could?

[ahibby]

BR saying in live press conference that he thinks Commons will remain at Celtic until end of season and he also references that player has back injury. Press conference just done for Aberdeen game.

Looks unlikely.

This could also be the case considering JMcG is back and KC was brought in for cover for him. Saturdays results show we might not need him but we never know what injuries we might face going forward.

[SanFranHibs]

Could be that NL isn't "ITK"........ :wink:

He doesn't have enough posts on Hibs.net.

[Andy74]

Yet according to our Manager on a live radio broadcast, we didn't even put in an offer.

The problem is the day before he pretty much said we had left an offer with his agent.

[Marco G]

The problem is the day before he pretty much said we had left an offer with his agent.
He was quoted as saying that Hibs had left things with his representatives, not that we had made an offer. Sounds like we had expressed interest but no actual discussion with his agent had ever taken place. So Neil could make both the statements and be correct!

[A Hi-Bee]

Happy enough to leave things with neil Lennon and the backroom staff to bring in the right ones instead of trying to guess who or what, time will tell.

[Thecat23]

He was quoted as saying that Hibs had left things with his representatives, not that we had made an offer. Sounds like we had expressed interest but no actual discussion with his agent had ever taken place. So Neil could make both the statements and be correct!

They asked him to come in again no offer was made to him. 👍🏼

[Baw187]

Putting 2 and 2 together from reading the Kenny Miller piece and the quote from Rodgers, it sounds as if Celtic aren't willing to buy him out the contract or are playing hardball with him. If they won't pay him up what he thinks he'd be due, he's hardly going to walk away from a guaranteed 18k a week for the next 5 months. No matter how much he might want to join us.

If this is the only stumbling block then I'd be hopeful that Celtic will buckle in the end given they won't want to pay him not to play till the end of the season.

[GreenLake]

Putting 2 and 2 together from reading the Kenny Miller piece and the quote from Rodgers, it sounds as if Celtic aren't willing to buy him out the contract or are playing hardball with him. If they won't pay him up what he thinks he'd be due, he's hardly going to walk away from a guaranteed 18k a week for the next 5 months. No matter how much he might want to join us.

If this is the only stumbling block then I'd be hopeful that Celtic will buckle in the end given they won't want to pay him not to play till the end of the season.

It must be tough dropping from £18k down to £10k nevermind £2k. Football players have a short window for earning by playing.

[oldbutdim]

When does the transfer window "Slam Shut"?

Cheers

J

Edit - Just Googled. Closes 2300 tomorrow.

I think it's midnight in Scotland, 11.00 in Ingerlund

[The Sundance Kid]

Tam McManus tweeting 'Dundee United very interested in Kris Commons along with a host of Premiership clubs but again wages a huge stumbling block. Can't afford him'

Then responded to someone who tweeted that with Dundee United due to get in a million from Andrew Robertson's transfer there could be something in it by saying 'That's why I think they are in for him could put some of that towards his wages in a loan deal? Again can't see him leaving Celtic though.'

[Heisenberg]

Tam McManus tweeting 'Dundee United very interested in Kris Commons along with a host of Premiership clubs but again wages a huge stumbling block. Can't afford him'

Then responded to someone who tweeted that with Dundee United due to get in a million from Andrew Robertson's transfer there could be something in it by saying 'That's why I think they are in for him could put some of that towards his wages in a loan deal? Again can't see him leaving Celtic though.'

I've come to the conclusion that Tam McManus talks pish.

[AlbertK86]

Tam McManus tweeting 'Dundee United very interested in Kris Commons along with a host of Premiership clubs but again wages a huge stumbling block. Can't afford him' Then responded to someone who tweeted that with Dundee United due to get in a million from Andrew Robertson's transfer there could be something in it by saying 'That's why I think they are in for him could put some of that towards his wages in a loan deal? Again can't see him leaving Celtic though.'

Can't see Commons doing that to Lennon but I suppose you can never say never

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[Dr Jimmy]

It must be tough dropping from £18k down to £10k nevermind £2k. Football players have a short window for earning by playing.

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

[snooky]

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

Plus if you play for the OF you get a shoe-in to chat on all BBC & ITV fitbaw progs + get your pockets lined to boot .... and no education required. :aok:

[Allant1981]

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

exactly, and even if he does sign for us on 2k a week thats a hundred grand a year, not to be sniffed at

[Unseen work]

United now heavily interested in Commons.

Got a sell on % with Robertson so if his deal goes through it could free up quite a bit of money for them.

Apologies if already been mentioned.

[GreenLake]

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

It isn't easy for an ex-football player to find a different job paying £2k a week never mind £18k.

[Jim44]

Tam McManus tweeting 'Dundee United very interested in Kris Commons along with a host of Premiership clubs but again wages a huge stumbling block. Can't afford him'

Then responded to someone who tweeted that with Dundee United due to get in a million from Andrew Robertson's transfer there could be something in it by saying 'That's why I think they are in for him could put some of that towards his wages in a loan deal? Again can't see him leaving Celtic though.'s


I've come to the conclusion that Tam McManus talks pish.


Can't see Commons doing that to Lennon but I suppose you can never say never

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What is there for Commons at Celtic at this stage in his career? His whole demeanour before he returned to Celtic suggested he was happy at ER, so I'm slightly bemused that Dundee United have entered the scenario. Hibs or Dundee United? The amount of cash each might contribute to his wages is irrelevant to him but might be to Celtic but at the end of the day it's up to him. I've got to say that if he ends up at Tannadice, I'll be disappointed in the guy.

[snooky]

It isn't easy for an ex-football player to find a different job paying £2k a week never mind £18k.

In the old days retired players used their high profile by either taking over pubs or getting hired as a salesman.
Not fantastic money I grant you but hey, probably a lot more than the poor punters were on who coughed up every week to cover the said player's wages.

[Heisenberg]

Commons wouldn't go to United. Wouldn't do that to Lennon.

[ancient hibee]

s





What is there for Commons at Celtic at this stage in his career? His whole demeanour before he returned to Celtic suggested he was happy at ER, so I'm slightly bemused that Dundee United have entered the scenario. Hibs or Dundee United? The amount of cash each might contribute to his wages is irrelevant to him but might be to Celtic but at the end of the day it's up to him. I've got to say that if he ends up at Tannadice, I'll be disappointed in the guy.

Why? He owes Hibs nothing. He'll naturally take what's the best deal for him.

[Peevemor]

In the old days retired players used their high profile by either taking over pubs or getting hired as a salesman.
Not fantastic money I grant you but hey, probably a lot more than the poor punters were on who coughed up every week to cover the said player's wages.
Except now the pub industry is screwed and there are far less sales jobs. On the other hand, players (even at the likes of Hibs) are better paid than 25± years ago.

[Jim44]

Why? He owes Hibs nothing. He'll naturally take what's the best deal for him.

But in terms of his wages, no matter what club he goes to, he won't get more than his present Celtic wage. What are the elements of the better deal you refer to? Are you thinking, for example, of a new contract next season or a coaching post, maybe?

[snooky]

Except now the pub industry is screwed and there are far less sales jobs. On the other hand, players (even at the likes of Hibs) are better paid than 25± years ago.

:agree: I agree Peevemor. The money that even the average players get these days should allow them to set themselves up with a mortgage-free home and a decent bank account by the time the quit playing.
That's a much better start than your average Joe gets.

[HoboHarry]

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

No one said they were but that's not really the point. They only have a short time to earn the big money which will allow them and their families to live in comfort for the rest of their lives and any player with a modicum of intellect should be aiming for that. I certainly would have done had I been given the opportunity.......

[ancient hibee]

But in terms of his wages, no matter what club he goes to, he won't get more than his present Celtic wage. What are the elements of the better deal you refer to? Are you thinking, for example, of a new contract next season or a coaching post, maybe?

I'm purely commenting on your being disappointed in him f he goes to DU and saying that if it's a better deal he'll accept it and rightly so.

[Brightside]

:agree: I agree Peevemor. The money that even the average players get these days should allow them to set themselves up with a mortgage-free home and a decent bank account by the time the quit playing.
That's a much better start than your average Joe gets.

Pay off a mortgage as an average player in scotland? You'd probably still be living at your mum and dads!

[givescotlandfreedom]

The stadium lights are on which isn't normally the case. New signing being paraded or utter guff.

[Jim44]

I'm purely commenting on your being disappointed in him f he goes to DU and saying that if it's a better deal he'll accept it and rightly so.

I understand and agree with you about him going elsewhere if he can get a better deal. But my point is that in terms of his wages, he will only get what his contract with Celtic is. I'm saying that I would be disappointed in him because I don't think that any deal 'add-ons' from us or D Utd would be significantly different. He's got good connections with us, we're in a better place than them and I can't see the attraction for him to in going to Tannadice. That being the case, I would be disappointed if he chose them.

[scoopyboy]

He will either stay at Celtic until his contract runs out or come to Hibs.

It could well go right to the wire.

If Celtic/Commons can't agree a severance package then it will come down to if we can agree a loan fee with Celtic.

Trouble is if it gets too close to the deadline do Hibs turn their attention elsewhere?

[21.05.2016]

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

Exactly, they might not being getting the same money as playing but there is still plenty for them to do, coaching, management, punditry gig, journalism etc. and thats just if they want to stay involved in football, nothing to keep them from getting a "normal job" to pay their bills.


United now heavily interested in Commons.

Got a sell on % with Robertson so if his deal goes through it could free up quite a bit of money for them.

Apologies if already been mentioned.

I would be very surprised if Commons chose United over hibs tbh. We have a far better team to play in, favourites to win the league, better stadium and training facilities and he has ties with Lennon.

[Eyrie]

It isn't easy for an ex-football player to find a different job paying £2k a week never mind £18k.

That's called the real world.

I always laugh when they talk about footballers being on "only £2k" or whatever, when most of us will be on a third of that at best.

[J-C]

Never understand when agents and players say they only have a short career so they need to earn as much as possible. They are not barred from working after football.

They can't all go into coaching/management or tv puditry.

[21.05.2016]

That's called the real world.

I always laugh when they talk about footballers being on "only £2k" or whatever, when most of us will be on a third of that at best.

Exactly. Bless the poor wee lambs only being on £100k+ a year, it's a tough life :rolleyes:

[Thecat23]

Roll on tomorrow, busy day for Mr Lennon!!!! One player heading to Hibs from down south.

[AlbertK86]

Roll on tomorrow, busy day for Mr Lennon!!!! One player heading to Hibs from down south.

Tease !!!

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[Thecat23]

Tease !!!

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Haha if I knew his name I'd fire it up bud. I'll keep digging!

[snooky]

Pay off a mortgage as an average player in scotland? You'd probably still be living at your mum and dads!

Actually underscore, I kinda am - in a way. :wink:

[Baw187]

Exactly. Bless the poor wee lambs only being on £100k+ a year, it's a tough life :rolleyes:

I don't disagree but when you're a guy like Commons who has been earning 9 times that then you have to be prepared for the adjustment when it comes. He seems a switched on guy so reckon he will be but many aren't quite as clever and end up bankrupt!

It's all relative.

[mjhibby]

He will either stay at Celtic until his contract runs out or come to Hibs.

It could well go right to the wire.

If Celtic/Commons can't agree a severance package then it will come down to if we can agree a loan fee with Celtic.

Trouble is if it gets too close to the deadline do Hibs turn their attention elsewhere?

Call it a loan fee or whatever the jargon is that is all hibs and Celtic are discussing. Celtic don't need the money with the millions from the champions league so really are just playing games. That's their choice as he is their player.

[21.05.2016]

I don't disagree but when you're a guy like Commons who has been earning 9 times that then you have to be prepared for the adjustment when it comes. He seems a switched on guy so reckon he will be but many aren't quite as clever and end up bankrupt!

It's all relative.

True, it's a big lifestyle change but nevertheless, they'll still be far better off than most. Christ i'd kill to be earning £100k+ a year lol! Your right in what your saying though, it's all relative and players in that position obviously have to learn to live a bit less lavishly than they once did and as you say, some don't adapt to that well and end up in bother. O'Conner probably a classic example of that, lived the high life during his hayday, flash cars, big houses, plenty bling etc. but after his career went tits up I think by what I hear he was keen to still hold onto that lifestyle but couldn't afford to do so anymore and ended up in trouble.

Commons however has played for celtic and seems a well spoken guy who knows the game well, i'm sure once his football playing days are over he'll manage to bag himself a punditry role or the like which may not bring in the same earning as being a player but he certainly wont be badly off.

[scoopyboy]

Call it a loan fee or whatever the jargon is that is all hibs and Celtic are discussing. Celtic don't need the money with the millions from the champions league so really are just playing games. That's their choice as he is their player.

Celtic playing games is my take as well, no need in their position.