Neil Lennon

[Thecat23]

Dont think anyone is trying to brush over anything, but this raising him towards legend status seems to ignore many of the criticisms re his poor substitutions, always reverting to the diamond, lack of width etc etc.

Don't get me wrong he had his faults and I am still fully behind Lennon. But anyone who delivers the SC is a legend.

[Lago]

He will always be a legend for winning the cup. There should be no argument on that, regardless of any other criticisms

Ok I will accept cup win puts him up there with the best that hibs have had, however equally that doesn't mean he is immune from constructive criticism for some of his decisions etc

[Lago]

Don't get me wrong he had his faults and I am still fully behind Lennon. But anyone who delivers the SC is a legend.

Ok I'll not fall out with you over the legend description as I normally agree with you more often than disagree.:aok:

[Thecat23]

Ok I'll not fall out with you over the legend description as I normally agree with you more often than disagree.:aok:

It's all good👍🏼 We all have different opinions. As I say Stubbs had a lot of faults so understand why others may see things differently.

[Gordy M]

Amen to that, :top marks and from someone who wanted Lennon but is still far from convinced he's going to do what he was brought to the club to do.

Although i live in hope, and am much happier after yesterdays result. :thumbsup:

Yeh definitely mate, i think a lot are still to be fully convinced but im still confident he will take us up. My hope is that, like a lot of managers, he started out by trying to make us hard to beat, which in the main i think he has. We had a habit of losing soft goals and although this has happened recently...i think he has mostly addressed this.

Now im hoping we can go on and be more expansive and attack with pace. If we do that then i think we win the league. After yesterday onwards and upwards:thumbsup:

[Slavers]

Lennon is doing the job well. I dont think his signings have been bad so far. He has us top of the league. Bringing in Humphery & Commons to the club for Jan 1st is good work.

As a poster said we have a good defensive record under Lennon only lost 2 games out of 19 league games. He has faced problems with the squad an ref decisions and has us sitting top of the league with UTD to play at home next!

It is a happy new year and will continue to be under Lennon who i think is a very safe pair of hands and a clever manager.

[Lago]

It's all good👍🏼 We all have different opinions. As I say Stubbs had a lot of faults so understand why others may see things differently.

I agree re opinions, I really just want NL to suceed this season and sometimes feel he is not getting a fair hearing as there is always reference back to Stubbs & the cup game, ignoring many of the poor results in the league during last season.
I am in away, like some others, both blessed & tormented by having followed Hibs from the Turnbull times onwards. Believe me I want sucess as much as the next fan, but having sat through the Bertie Auld, Alex Miller & Jim Duffy times I can put up with some stuffy performances this season if it brings promtion.
Just as a aside, I always enjoyed the Alex McLeish era at ER as being up there with the most exciting of times.
Happy New Year.

[Super_JMcGinn]

Lennon is doing the job well. I dont think his signings have been bad so far. He has us top of the league. Bringing in Humphery & Commons to the club for Jan 1st is good work.

As a poster said we have a good defensive record under Lennon only lost 2 games out of 19 league games. He has faced problems with the squad an ref decisions and has us sitting top of the league with UTD to play at home next!

It is a happy new year and will continue to be under Lennon who i think is a very safe pair of hands and a clever manager.

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.

[BoomtownHibees]

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.

We have only lost 11 goals in 19 games and you think our defensive record should be better??

[Super_JMcGinn]

We have only lost 11 goals in 19 games and you think our defensive record should be better??

Yes, given we have International class central defenders and where we are playing don't you ?

Look at the goals we have conceded at ER ? bloody comical defending.

[tamig]

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.

I think we have the best defensive record in the land - despite a couple of shaky performances. Why can't you just be happy that we're now in a position where we can put out nearest challengers to the sword next game and look to pull away? You seem to love a moan.

[Super_JMcGinn]

I think we have the best defensive record in the land - despite a couple of shaky performances. Why can't you just be happy that we're now in a position where we can put out nearest challengers to the sword next game and look to pull away? You seem to love a moan.

I'm happy we are top and delighted with yesterdays win. I just don't get the Lennon love in.

[blackpoolhibs]

Yes, given we have International class central defenders and where we are playing don't you ?

Look at the goals we have conceded at ER ? bloody comical defending.

:faf: And i get accused of talking sheite.

Were they all born in San Marino?

[BoomtownHibees]

Yes, given we have International class central defenders and where we are playing don't you ?

Look at the goals we have conceded at ER ? bloody comical defending.

No I don't. We currently have the best defensive record in the UK (I think) so don't think that's an issue. What country would these international defenders be playing for??

Scoring enough goals at the other end however is a different story

[Super_JMcGinn]

:faf: And i get accused of talking sheite.

Were they all born in San Marino?

A few on here reckon Hanlon should be playing for Scotland, where have you been BH.

[lucky]

Yes, given we have International class central defenders and where we are playing don't you ?

Look at the goals we have conceded at ER ? bloody comical defending.

Who are our international class defenders? None of the 4 of them have been capped except Hanlon at U21 & U19. So I'd say they've played very well. Best defensive record in the country.

Edit: Fonts has an U20 cap for England

[blackpoolhibs]

A few on here reckon Hanlon should be playing for Scotland, where have you been BH.

Ah so because a couple of folk on here think he should be playing for Scotland that makes them international quality?

How could i fail to realise this, i apologise.

[Super_JMcGinn]

Ah so because a couple of folk on here think he should be playing for Scotland that makes them international quality?

How could i fail to realise this, i apologise.


No need to apologise BH, I don't think he is either :aok:

[McD]

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.


Entitled? Really?

Rather arrogant isnt it?

[McD]

No need to apologise BH, I don't think he is either :aok:


You are are the one who described our defenders as "international quality", so, now you've also stated that Hanlon isn't international quality, which of the rest of our defence is?

[Super_JMcGinn]

You are are the one who described our defenders as "international quality", so, now you've also stated that Hanlon isn't international quality, which of the rest of our defence is?

A few happen to think Darren is too, I'm not one of those either but I do think he is better than Paul. :aok:

It's all only my opinion though which is what this board is for is it not ?

[BoomtownHibees]

A few happen to think Darren is too, I'm not one of those either but I do think he is better than Paul. :aok:

It's all only my opinion though which is what this board is for is it not ?

So do you think we have international class defenders (your words) or not. You're posts are contradictory

[Super_JMcGinn]

So do you think we have international class defenders (your words) or not. You're posts are contradictory

I was being facetious, I should have inserted smileys, my bad.

[McD]

A few happen to think Darren is too, I'm not one of those either but I do think he is better than Paul. :aok:

It's all only my opinion though which is what this board is for is it not ?


No issues with opinions buddy, just a bit odd that you chose to describe our defenders as international quality whilst deriding their defensive record (essentially saying that as they're international quality they should be doing far better), yet now you're saying that you don't rate any of them as international quality.

I'd say that both are better than some of the dross that gets selected by strachan, but that's not going as far as saying they're international quality, more a comment on the crap that's there ahead of them.

As you said, opinions and all that :aok:


edit: just seen your next post re. Smileys, fair do's mate :greengrin

[matty_f]

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.

We're not entitled to anything, tbf.

[matty_f]

I was being facetious, I should have inserted smileys, my bad.

So if you don't think that they're international standard do you not think that we're entitled, then?

[Canon Hannan]

I'm happy we are top and delighted with yesterdays win. I just don't get the Lennon love in.

Because you have Sevco allegiances maybe?

[tamig]

Because you have Sevco allegiances maybe?

Lol. I'm sure some might say "like you have sellick allegiances"?

[Heisenberg]

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.

What a ridiculous post. We are entitled to nothing.

[Lago]

What a ridiculous post. We are entitled to nothing.

Correct, everything in life & football has to be earned!!

[Canon Hannan]

Lol. I'm sure some might say "like you have sellick allegiances"?

And you Hearts 😂😂😂
Happy New Year 🙏😂😂👍

[Super_JMcGinn]

What a ridiculous post. We are entitled to nothing.

I was basing it on the quality of our defenders and the ridiculous goals we have lost at ER in particular.

If you're going to quote my posts quote them in their entirety tyvm :aok:

[Super_JMcGinn]

So if you don't think that they're international standard do you not think that we're entitled, then?

Maybe entitled was the wrong word but it was used in conjunction with a few other posts Matty.

I think we should have conceded fewer goals, the ones we have lost at ER in particular have been very poor.

[Super_JMcGinn]

Because you have Sevco allegiances maybe?


Your defence of anything celtic is nauseating in the extreme and my only allegiance is in the true greens, not the plastic variety as I have told you countless times before.

[StevieCowan]

Maybe entitled was the wrong word but it was used in conjunction with a few other posts Matty.

I think we should have conceded fewer goals, the ones we have lost at ER in particular have been very poor.


Is it just me or does anyone criticising our defence, when its the best in the UK, seem a little :confused:

[Super_JMcGinn]

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What would you call them ? unavoidable ? Have you been to ER this season ?

Why do you have to become abusive someone doesn't agree with you ? You come across as a right Mr know it all.

[Brightside]

What would you call them ? unavoidable ? Have you been to ER this season ?

Why do you have to become abusive someone doesn't agree with you ? You come across as a right Mr know it all.

Every single game. You on the other hand are the type of fan the club could do without.

[Heisenberg]

Is it just me or does anyone criticising our defence, when its the best in the UK, seem a little :confused:

Yes it's extremely confusing. Some people are never happy. There are a few things that this team can be criticised for but the defence has been one of our major strong points this season.

[Smartie]

You can look at every goal conceded and find fault and blame somewhere.

Over the piece, looking at the bigger picture, our defensive record is good although Lennon and the players will look at the goals we concede and try to further minimise the goals we concede.

So I kind of see what the guy is trying to say - we HAVE lost a few bad goals (the one we lost yesterday was terrible).

But the bigger picture is that our defensive record is decent, our defenders are all excellent players and if we're looking to win more games our attention should be on other parts of the team before it falls on the defence.

[tamig]

Your defence of anything celtic is nauseating in the extreme and my only allegiance is in the true greens, not the plastic variety as I have told you countless times before.

Agreed. And when I suggest the same he accuses me of having hertz allegiances - with no justification whatsoever. It's quite pathetic really.

[Baldy Foghorn]

I'm happy we are top and delighted with yesterdays win. I just don't get the Lennon love in.

:faf::faf:

He's been getting panned by many for weeks, or have you missed it?

[J-C]

We're in the bloody championship not La Liga ,we're entitled to have a better defensive record than we have.

Our points tally is not great given we won our first 5 on the bounce.


No happy with having the best defensive record in Britain :confused:

[Brightside]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

[Onion]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Disagree. The problem is we demand far too much of our full backs who are having to fill in for the deficiencies of our midfield which lacks creativity, drive and goals. In fact it was shocking to see Commons play a great defence-splitting pass to Cummings for the first goal on Sat, rather than the usual try, fail, stick it out wide.

DG has been an immense captain and servant for Hibs over the the last 2 yrs and one of those players who will be sorely missed when he's moves on.

[HoboHarry]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.
Then you have no idea of what you are looking at. If indeed you are looking at all......

[truehibernian]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Wow ! Surely that's tongue in cheek ??

When we've been used to seeing Gatheussi, Van Zanten, Thicot, Boeteng, Maybury and Clancy at right back, SDG has been Dani Alves in comparison.

He's been solid and reliable and gives 100% every game. Good leader too.

Goodness knows how much better a player we could get given our league and size. He's been a top signing on and off the pitch.

[MWHIBBIES]

Wow ! Surely that's tongue in cheek ??

When we've been used to seeing Gatheussi, Van Zanten, Thicot, Boeteng, Maybury and Clancy at right back, SDG has been Dani Alves in comparison.

He's been solid and reliable and gives 100% every game. Good leader too.

Goodness knows how much better a player we could get given our league and size. He's been a top signing on and off the pitch.Agree with this post but there was nothing wrong with Maybury, always solid for us.

[Allant1981]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

sorry but thats a load of rubbish, he has not been poor for 2 years, not great every game but certainly not poor for 2 years

[truehibernian]

Agree with this post but there was nothing wrong with Maybury, always solid for us.

Maybe a tad harsh on him MW, agreed.

[Thecat23]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Far from poor Underscore. He's had some poor games but more solid ones than not.

[southern hibby]

For all those saying we have the Best defence ( which we do) our defenders need to stay focused during a game. Morton game goalie saves hit bar ( twice) then concede a goal. No follow up challenge.

Exact same yesterday except only hits bar once. I'd hazard a guess our defence is only good because teams only try to defend against us and try and get a sucker punch against us and hold on. We have conceded several goals now from dead centre of goals ( between Hanlon/ mcgregor) and I'd hazard a guess this could be more if playing against higher standard of players/ teams.

That being said thought this threadwas about NL, I personally don't like some of his tactics and substitutions. But he's the manager and I'll support the team 100% however if he was to leave tomorrow I can honestly say I wouldn't be fused at all.

GGTTH

[BoomtownHibees]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years?

What an absolute load o bollocks

[Super_JMcGinn]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.


LOL that is a topper even by your lofty standards :not worth

[Super_JMcGinn]

For all those saying we have the Best defence ( which we do) our defenders need to stay focused during a game. Morton game goalie saves hit bar ( twice) then concede a goal. No follow up challenge.

Exact same yesterday except only hits bar once. I'd hazard a guess our defence is only good because teams only try to defend against us and try and get a sucker punch against us and hold on. We have conceded several goals now from dead centre of goals ( between Hanlon/ mcgregor) and I'd hazard a guess this could be more if playing against higher standard of players/ teams.

That being said thought this threadwas about NL, I personally don't like some of his tactics and substitutions. But he's the manager and I'll support the team 100% however if he was to leave tomorrow I can honestly say I wouldn't be fused at all.

GGTTH

I'm with you 100% on the last paragraph.

[truehibernian]

For all those saying we have the Best defence ( which we do) our defenders need to stay focused during a game. Morton game goalie saves hit bar ( twice) then concede a goal. No follow up challenge.

Exact same yesterday except only hits bar once. I'd hazard a guess our defence is only good because teams only try to defend against us and try and get a sucker punch against us and hold on. We have conceded several goals now from dead centre of goals ( between Hanlon/ mcgregor) and I'd hazard a guess this could be more if playing against higher standard of players/ teams.

That being said thought this threadwas about NL, I personally don't like some of his tactics and substitutions. But he's the manager and I'll support the team 100% however if he was to leave tomorrow I can honestly say I wouldn't be fused at all.

GGTTH

Yesterday's goal was a case of playing too square and following the ball not the runners - all of our players were moths to a flame, with I think Daz rushing out of position which left the pocket of space in front of Laidlaw when the cross came in. I've been impressed with Laidlaw's reactions - definitely let down by a few players at that passage of play yesterday.

[Jonnyboy]

Let's face it, there are some Hibs fans who do not like and never will like Lennon, for whatever reason. I heard a few calling for his head on Saturday as he came to acknowledge our fantastic away support.

For me, it matters not whether folk like him or not. He's here to do a job and at this point in time he's doing that by having us in the automatic promotion slot. I don't get the 'must do better defensively' argument either. Yes we've lost some daft goals but name me a team that doesn't. It's ironic that the one complaining so much about our defence has a username based on one of those defenders :greengrin

[keep the faith]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Wow!!! That's utter nonsense.

[660]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Jesus. Presumably you have been asleep for the last 30 years where out RB/RWB has been rank almost without exception. I'm struggling to think of a decent RB out with Whittaker and de la Cruz.

Our current RB scored the winner in the SCF, has been solid and is the captain of the team with the best spirit in my time watching hibs. His delivery could occasionally be better but to say he is "poor" is ridiculous.

[Brightside]

Wow ! Surely that's tongue in cheek ??

When we've been used to seeing Gatheussi, Van Zanten, Thicot, Boeteng, Maybury and Clancy at right back, SDG has been Dani Alves in comparison.

He's been solid and reliable and gives 100% every game. Good leader too.

Goodness knows how much better a player we could get given our league and size. He's been a top signing on and off the pitch.
Last 2 years. The woman spends her life slagging hanlon now she is on to commons. Yet calls herself after a FB who sadly has not been great for a while despite the Cup exploits.

[truehibernian]

Last 2 years. The woman spends her life slagging hanlon now she is on to commons. Yet calls herself after a FB who sadly has not been great for a while despite the Cup exploits.

Sorry underscore you've lost me ??? What woman ?

[Brightside]

Sorry underscore you've lost me ??? What woman ?

Gail stdavidgray or whatever he is calling himself this week. Bottom line both players are quality and in my view our weakness remains on the flanks.

[ronaldo7]

Gail stdavidgray or whatever he is calling himself this week. Bottom line both players are quality and in my view our weakness remains on the flanks.

To say Gray has been poor for the last 2 years is a bit ott though, don't you think?

[PercyHibs]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Totally agree. Our full backs just aren't good enough going forward. Both very good defenders but our style of play does not suit them. Neither can cross a ball or take on a man

[Smartie]

To say David Gray has been poor for 2 years is the craziest of crazy talk.

We'll see the best of our 2 current, excellent fullbacks when less is expected of them in an attacking sense and they can focus on doing what they do best - defending, with the odd bit of attacking thrown in that you'd expect of a FULL back.

TBH I think they're amongst the best in the country in their respective positions.

[HoboHarry]

To say David Gray has been poor for 2 years is the craziest of crazy talk.

We'll see the best of our 2 current, excellent fullbacks when less is expected of them in an attacking sense and they can focus on doing what they do best - defending, with the odd bit of attacking thrown in that you'd expect of a FULL back.

TBH I think they're amongst the best in the country in their respective positions.
They are smartie but you are wasting your time saying that to some on here.

[swin1875]

To say David Gray has been poor for 2 years is the craziest of crazy talk.

We'll see the best of our 2 current, excellent fullbacks when less is expected of them in an attacking sense and they can focus on doing what they do best - defending, with the odd bit of attacking thrown in that you'd expect of a FULL back.

TBH I think they're amongst the best in the country in their respective positions.

Totally agree with you,the fact that we have had zero width for a while now I feel our fullbacks are doing 2 positions in one and get slated for it,hope the arrival of humphreys eases some pressure on gray and let him be what he is a right back

[Lago]

And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.

Boy have you srirred up a hornet's nest:greengrin

[fife hfc]

Stubbs will always be a legend and I thank him for the greatest day ever following Hibs. I was on the fence regarding Lennon and a bit apprehensive but he has us top of the league and I believe will get us promoted. He has lost two vital players in Fyvie and McGinn that unsurprisingly has affected our form and it has not been the easy on the eye football but it is effective. Long term I think the football may not be great but it will get us promoted and that is his remit.

[Dashing Bob S]

Stubbs will always be a legend and I thank him for the greatest day ever following Hibs. I was on the fence regarding Lennon and a bit apprehensive but he has us top of the league and I believe will get us promoted. He has lost two vital players in Fyvie and McGinn that unsurprisingly has affected our form and it has not been the easy on the eye football but it is effective. Long term I think the football may not be great but it will get us promoted and that is his remit.

Very much this. We had bad decisions go against us, we lost several key players, we didn't have a midfielder who could score goals, and we lacked a winger of pace. And we are still top of the league.

Now we've addressed those issues and I think we'll be a lot stronger in the second half of the season.

[tamig]

Jesus. Presumably you have been asleep for the last 30 years where out RB/RWB has been rank almost without exception. I'm struggling to think of a decent RB out with Whittaker and de la Cruz.

Our current RB scored the winner in the SCF, has been solid and is the captain of the team with the best spirit in my time watching hibs. His delivery could occasionally be better but to say he is "poor" is ridiculous.

Lol. De la Cruz was good going forward but he was never a right back in a million years.

[edwards]

David Gray has been poor for the past two years Really WHAT planet are you on. Is that why he was given the captains arm band. He has been a great signing and has been a very good full back. His crossing might be slightly suspect but it is better than Lewis's. Now we have an experienced winger who might play in front of Gray lets see what the outcome is still think Gray is a pretty decent right back and plays with commitment and determination.

[Blaster]

I was being facetious, I should have inserted smileys, my bad.

Bad?? I think you are nuts and pick faults where there is no need

Not got a clue Gail

[Brightside]

To say Gray has been poor for the last 2 years is a bit ott though, don't you think?

Both full backs get in positions that should be exploited. They both should be hitting the byline for cutbacks and easy goals. They simply don't do it. That's a clear fact for the past two years in this league.

[Baw187]

Totally agree. Our full backs just aren't good enough going forward. Both very good defenders but our style of play does not suit them. Neither can cross a ball or take on a man

This. Can't cross well enough and don't have the pace we need to destroy teams the way Wallace and Tavernier did last year for the Huns.

That's not to say they are bad players, they are decent enough, but don't suit how we are trying to play.

IMO

[Marco G]

Totally agree. Our full backs just aren't good enough going forward. Both very good defenders but our style of play does not suit them. Neither can cross a ball or take on a man
Sorry, but you are just 100% wrong. Or you have not been to many of our games?

[lucky]

David Gray has been poor for the past two years Really WHAT planet are you on. Is that why he was given the captains arm band. He has been a great signing and has been a very good full back. His crossing might be slightly suspect but it is better than Lewis's. Now we have an experienced winger who might play in front of Gray lets see what the outcome is still think Gray is a pretty decent right back and plays with commitment and determination.

Not according to the stats. LS has a very good record on assists especially compared to DG

[Danderhall Hibs]

Not according to the stats. LS has a very good record on assists especially compared to DG

I think Stevenson has a lot more attempts mainly due to the fact the opposition usually let us/him have as much ball on the left hand side as we want due to the lack of threat.

[Baw187]

Sorry, but you are just 100% wrong. Or you have not been to many of our games?

Have you? It's evident that neither have the pace or distribution that we are crying out for.

Again, not that they are terrible players, just don't give us what we currently need if we want to break teams down and score more goals.

[J-C]

Have you? It's evident that neither have the pace or distribution that we are crying out for.

Again, not that they are terrible players, just don't give us what we currently need if we want to break teams down and score more goals.


Is this not why Humphrey was signed, to give us pace and a final ball/cross. I think we all see that as defenders they are both decent and we as fans have been crying out for wingers for 2 years, it still amazes me it's taken this long to bring in a fast winger.

[Danderhall Hibs]

Is this not why Humphrey was signed, to give us pace and a final ball/cross. I think we all see that as defenders they are both decent and we as fans have been crying out for wingers for 2 years, it still amazes me it's taken this long to bring in a fast winger.

:agree:

[Baw187]

Is this not why Humphrey was signed, to give us pace and a final ball/cross. I think we all see that as defenders they are both decent and we as fans have been crying out for wingers for 2 years, it still amazes me it's taken this long to bring in a fast winger.

Agree. If we play with wingers from now on then ideal. Lewis and Gray are more than capable fullbacks.

Playing 3-5-2 (or a fancier adaptation of that) this season hasn't worked well enough though cause they've been asked to get forward and deliver in to the box. And, as I say, that is not their strength.

[J-C]

Agree. If we play with wingers from now on then ideal. Lewis and Gray are more than capable fullbacks.

Playing 3-5-2 (or a fancier adaptation of that) this season hasn't worked well enough though cause they've been asked to get forward and deliver in to the box. And, as I say, that is not their strength.


4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 is the way to play the teams in this division, we don't need 2 wingers but we needed at least one to stretch defences. We have Keatings, Boyle and Cummings who can play up top and wide to give us pace, Commons has little pace but makes up in pure creativity and guile, we have pace in the team it's the tempo we need to get right.

[Lago]

Is this not why Humphrey was signed, to give us pace and a final ball/cross. I think we all see that as defenders they are both decent and we as fans have been crying out for wingers for 2 years, it still amazes me it's taken this long to bring in a fast winger.

One of the most sensible posts I've read, yes folks it is 2 years we have been needing wingers/pace not just this seasons problem.

[Baw187]

4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 is the way to play the teams in this division, we don't need 2 wingers but we needed at least one to stretch defences. We have Keatings, Boyle and Cummings who can play up top and wide to give us pace, Commons has little pace but makes up in pure creativity and guile, we have pace in the team it's the tempo we need to get right.

It's not necessarily just pace that we've been lacking it's the speed and accuracy at which we move the ball to catch the teams that sit in, off guard.

Yes, Commons will help as he has the foresight and touch to play runners in quickly but for me, that has been our problem for the last 2 years more than anything.

[Nicho87]

With Humphreys signing, what formation do we reckon we woukd adjust to when / if he starts. 442?

[Is It On....]

This. Can't cross well enough and don't have the pace we need to destroy teams the way Wallace and Tavernier did last year for the Huns.

That's not to say they are bad players, they are decent enough, but don't suit how we are trying to play.

IMO

A quick look at the Sevco hordes that post on The Den suggests they think that "Tav" is useless as he can't defend, particularly corners...😂

[Thecat23]

Is this not why Humphrey was signed, to give us pace and a final ball/cross. I think we all see that as defenders they are both decent and we as fans have been crying out for wingers for 2 years, it still amazes me it's taken this long to bring in a fast winger.

This 👍🏼

[blackpoolhibs]

Yes, given we have International class central defenders and where we are playing don't you ?

Look at the goals we have conceded at ER ? bloody comical defending.


I'm happy we are top and delighted with yesterdays win. I just don't get the Lennon love in.


:faf: And i get accused of talking sheite.

Were they all born in San Marino?


A few on here reckon Hanlon should be playing for Scotland, where have you been BH.


Ah so because a couple of folk on here think he should be playing for Scotland that makes them international quality?

How could i fail to realise this, i apologise.


No need to apologise BH, I don't think he is either :aok:


You are are the one who described our defenders as "international quality", so, now you've also stated that Hanlon isn't international quality, which of the rest of our defence is?


A few happen to think Darren is too, I'm not one of those either but I do think he is better than Paul. :aok:

It's all only my opinion though which is what this board is for is it not ?


So do you think we have international class defenders (your words) or not. You're posts are contradictory


I was being facetious, I should have inserted smileys, my bad.


Because you have Sevco allegiances maybe?


Lol. I'm sure some might say "like you have sellick allegiances"?


What a ridiculous post. We are entitled to nothing.


And you Hearts 😂😂😂
Happy New Year 🙏😂😂👍


I was basing it on the quality of our defenders and the ridiculous goals we have lost at ER in particular.

If you're going to quote my posts quote them in their entirety tyvm :aok:


Your defence of anything celtic is nauseating in the extreme and my only allegiance is in the true greens, not the plastic variety as I have told you countless times before.


What would you call them ? unavoidable ? Have you been to ER this season ?

Why do you have to become abusive someone doesn't agree with you ? You come across as a right Mr know it all.


Every single game. You on the other hand are the type of fan the club could do without.


Agreed. And when I suggest the same he accuses me of having hertz allegiances - with no justification whatsoever. It's quite pathetic really.


And we ignore the fact that David Gray has been poor for the last 2 years? Our FB positions are the weakest we have.


Then you have no idea of what you are looking at. If indeed you are looking at all......


Wow ! Surely that's tongue in cheek ??

When we've been used to seeing Gatheussi, Van Zanten, Thicot, Boeteng, Maybury and Clancy at right back, SDG has been Dani Alves in comparison.

He's been solid and reliable and gives 100% every game. Good leader too.

Goodness knows how much better a player we could get given our league and size. He's been a top signing on and off the pitch.


sorry but thats a load of rubbish, he has not been poor for 2 years, not great every game but certainly not poor for 2 years


LOL that is a topper even by your lofty standards :not worth


Wow!!! That's utter nonsense.


Jesus. Presumably you have been asleep for the last 30 years where out RB/RWB has been rank almost without exception. I'm struggling to think of a decent RB out with Whittaker and de la Cruz.

Our current RB scored the winner in the SCF, has been solid and is the captain of the team with the best spirit in my time watching hibs. His delivery could occasionally be better but to say he is "poor" is ridiculous.


Last 2 years. The woman spends her life slagging hanlon now she is on to commons. Yet calls herself after a FB who sadly has not been great for a while despite the Cup exploits.


Sorry underscore you've lost me ??? What woman ?


Gail stdavidgray or whatever he is calling himself this week. Bottom line both players are quality and in my view our weakness remains on the flanks.


To say Gray has been poor for the last 2 years is a bit ott though, don't you think?


Totally agree. Our full backs just aren't good enough going forward. Both very good defenders but our style of play does not suit them. Neither can cross a ball or take on a man


They are smartie but you are wasting your time saying that to some on here.


Boy have you srirred up a hornet's nest:greengrin


Bad?? I think you are nuts and pick faults where there is no need

Not got a clue Gail


Both full backs get in positions that should be exploited. They both should be hitting the byline for cutbacks and easy goals. They simply don't do it. That's a clear fact for the past two years in this league.

This is why i love Hibs.net,full of complete zoomers.:greengrin

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This is why i love Hibs.net,full of complete zoomers.:greengrin


Is this a record for the greatest number of quoted references in a single post?

Awesome. :not worth

[ronaldo7]

Both full backs get in positions that should be exploited. They both should be hitting the byline for cutbacks and easy goals. They simply don't do it. That's a clear fact for the past two years in this league.

Can you provide the evidence please.

How many times did Gray reach the byline?
How many times did he get his cross over?
How many times did he fail to cross?
How many times did the Forward miss the chance?
How many times was the Forward missing in action?

Just the Facts will do.:aok:

Gray has been great for us imo, his distribution at times could be better, final ball etc, but to claim he's been mince is just pure mince IMO.

Opinions eh.

[The Spaceman]

David Gray is one of the best Captains we have had in a long, long time. A club legend.

[sleeping giant]

David Gray is one of the best Captains we have had in a long, long time. A club legend.

Absolutely . To say he has been poor for 2 years is laughable.
Deary me

[Keith_M]

I thought this thread was about Neil Lennon?


:confused:

[Since90+2]

Gray has been a very solid and reliable player for us and for obvious reasons will always be a legend

However,if we want the club to progress and be challenging in the top 3 or 4 in the Premiership next season then both him and Stevenson need to be replaced.

[tamig]

This is why i love Hibs.net,full of complete zoomers.:greengrin

And all those quotes from a thread titled Neil Lennon!

[Keith_M]

Let's get back to the subject at hand, which is supposed to be Neil Lennon.

Here's a cute photo of him as a kid...




http://efdreams.com/data_images/dreams/orangutan/orangutan-05.jpg



:duck:



:greengrin

[Super_JMcGinn]

David Gray is one of the best Captains we have had in a long, long time. A club legend.

I don't think he has ever forgiven him for replacing our previous captain.

And you are right about his legendary status along with he others on the pitch that famous day. :flag:

[Baldy Foghorn]

I don't think he has ever forgiven him for replacing our previous captain.

And you are right about his legendary status along with he others on the pitch that famous day. :flag:

So you agree that PH is a legend?

[Super_JMcGinn]

So you agree that PH is a legend?


Absolutely :aok:

[Danderhall Hibs]

So you agree that PH is a legend?

Aye, but remember we only won after he went off. :greengrin

[Baldy Foghorn]

Aye, but remember we only won after he went off. :greengrin

:greengrin

[Lago]

I thought this thread was about Neil Lennon?


:confused:
Dont be silly, that assumes a degree of logical thinking.

[Brightside]

Can you provide the evidence please.

How many times did Gray reach the byline?
How many times did he get his cross over?
How many times did he fail to cross?
How many times did the Forward miss the chance?
How many times was the Forward missing in action?

Just the Facts will do.:aok:

Gray has been great for us imo, his distribution at times could be better, final ball etc, but to claim he's been mince is just pure mince IMO.

Opinions eh.

3% :wink:

[WhileTheChief..]

Lennon on Radio 5 today for the English Premier matches.

Already mentioned us being back top of the league :na na:

[ronaldo7]

3% :wink:

So that'll be a 97% success rate. No bad fur a mince right back eh.:wink:

[Canon Hannan]

Agreed. And when I suggest the same he accuses me of having hertz allegiances - with no justification whatsoever. It's quite pathetic really.

I was joking ffs.
Smile and be happy, hope you got some over the hols?

[Viva_Palmeiras]

3% :wink:

62.07% of stats are made-up.

[HoboHarry]

62.07% of stats are made-up.
And the other 48% are lies or bad math........

[weecounty hibby]

And the other 48% are lies or bad math........

It's maths, with an S at the end. ****in americanisms. My 9 year old daughter talks about putting things in the garbage, and sneakers!! Does my nut in

[HoboHarry]

It's maths, with an S at the end. ****in americanisms. My 9 year old daughter talks about putting things in the garbage, and sneakers!! Does my nut in
Sorry mate, lived here in the states so long that I'm bi-lingual in English.........:greengrin

[tamig]

I was joking ffs.
Smile and be happy, hope you got some over the hols?

Fair enough bud. Happy New Year to you 🍻

[weecounty hibby]

Sorry mate, lived here in the states so long that I'm bi-lingual in English.........:greengrin

I blame Sam and Cat, the Thundermans and Icarley etc for my daughters misuse of English. Although some of them are, sadly as a 47 year old man, decent viewing for some reason😳

[HoboHarry]

I blame Sam and Cat, the Thundermans and Icarley etc for my daughters misuse of English. Although some of them are, sadly as a 47 year old man, decent viewing for some reason😳

Your knowledge of American telly is better than mine lol. Icarly was the one I'd heard of.....

[Brightside]

It's maths, with an S at the end. ****in americanisms. My 9 year old daughter talks about putting things in the garbage, and sneakers!! Does my nut in

It should actually be Math...but I'm not starting another argument on this thread. :greengrin

[J-C]

It should actually be Math...but I'm not starting another argument on this thread. :greengrin


It's Mathematics not Mathemetic but unfortunately both Math and Maths are equally acceptable.

[weecounty hibby]

It's Mathematics not Mathemetic but unfortunately both Math and Maths are equally acceptable.
Not in my house😀

[HoboHarry]

Not in my house😀

I relented on that one years back but I'm f****d if I'm mis-pronouncing tomato 😀

[ancient hibee]

I relented on that one years back but I'm f****d if I'm mis-pronouncing tomato 😀
Let's call the whole thing off.

[steakbake]

Vindicated.

[sleeping giant]

Loving