Come on Scotland!

[Speedy]

England are no great shakes. We could have kept the pressure on them with 3 points from a very winnable game.

We were appalling last night and what is worse is we just roll over and accept our fate. We have absolutely zero ambition to even win games at home.

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Agreed.

[CentreLine]

It's not a must win though is it?

If we win on Tuesday we go 7 points clear of Slovakia who were seeded 2nd in the group.

Of course we should be beating Lithuania but our qualification is far from over.

But it was a must win. Then if we win on Tuesday we would be 9 points clear if Slovakia and more importantly clear of England. Now, on the other hand, we are behind England. Not acceptable at this stage given our "easy" start.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Bayern Munich ladies would have beat all four of them teams yesterday.

Stop being daft!

[Scouse Hibee]

Bayern Munich ladies would have beat all four of them teams yesterday.

Really? Think you're getting carried away and trying to compare a ladies team to a mens when there is really no comparison to be made. Not a chance in hell they would have beaten any of them. Or is this a whoosh ;-) moment.

[Onion]

But it was a must win. Then if we win on Tuesday we would be 9 points clear if Slovakia and more importantly clear of England. Now, on the other hand, we are behind England. Not acceptable at this stage given our "easy" start.

Expect we'll push England hard in our 1 to 1s with them but at the the end of the campaign, when we reflect on how we've come up short (yet again) those 2 points lost last night will be pivotal. It's rarely the decent teams that stop us from qualifying, always the dross.

[ancient hibee]

This. It's the blazers at the top that need the finger pointed at the most for the domestic and international failure of the country in football. Regan, Doncaster etc can GTF!

Don't think so. In fact it's clubs like Hibs who haven't brought through a decent international class player in over 10 years who are to blame.

[Dashing Bob S]

Scotland are pish and have been for close on 30 years. This was a typical performance, and increasingly, result. The win in Malta was a fluke.

[Frazerbob]

Scotland are pish and have been for close on 30 years. This was a typical performance, and increasingly, result. The win in Malta was a fluke.

In what way was it a fluke?

[Speedy]

But it was a must win. Then if we win on Tuesday we would be 9 points clear if Slovakia and more importantly clear of England. Now, on the other hand, we are behind England. Not acceptable at this stage given our "easy" start.

I'm just going to have to agree to disagree. For me it's only a "must win" if you actually have to win it to qualify. McArthur called it well in his interview imo, no game is a must win at this stage.

We're second at the moment with huge games to come against Slovakia, Slovenia & Lithuania in the battle for second. Win our fair share of them and we'll have a good chance of qualifying.

[Speedy]

Expect we'll push England hard in our 1 to 1s with them but at the the end of the campaign, when we reflect on how we've come up short (yet again) those 2 points lost last night will be pivotal. It's rarely the decent teams that stop us from qualifying, always the dross.

It's normally our away form that stops us from qualifying, it's normally ****.

[Eyrie]

I'm just going to have to agree to disagree. For me it's only a "must win" if you actually have to win it to qualify. McArthur called it well in his interview imo, no game is a must win at this stage.

We're second at the moment with huge games to come against Slovakia, Slovenia & Lithuania in the battle for second. Win our fair share of them and we'll have a good chance of qualifying.

Every game is a ten game schedule is a must win, and even more so if it's a home game against one of the weaker teams that you would expect your rivals to beat home and away.

[Onceinawhile]

In what way was it a fluke?

In the way that we got a penalty to put us 2-1 up for no discernible reason?

[Glory Lurker]

We're second at the moment with huge games to come against Slovakia, Slovenia & Lithuania in the battle for second. Win our fair share of them and we'll have a good chance of qualifying.

Back in the day, we could put up a decent show against Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and the USSR. It shows how far we've slid down that we are concerned about our chances against just bits of them.

[Dashing Bob S]

In what way was it a fluke?

It went against the results of the last 30 years, which suggest we normally struggle against teams that...well, are teams.

[G B Young]

It went against the results of the last 30 years, which suggest we normally struggle against teams that...well, are teams.

I stopped watching Scotland games years ago and they've done nothing since to make me think I made the wrong decision. Quite why so many wring their hands and bemoan their ineptitude after every fresh calamity is beyond me. They've been dross for decades and despite once having some high calibre players they weren't especially great as a team even way back then.

Overall, as somebody else mentions, international football is vastly overrated and by and largely boring. The fact Scotland have for so long been a bit part player on this stage sums up how poor we are. Of course, you could rightly claim the Scottish game as a whole is probably as poor as it's ever been, and as someone who actually remembers when our clubs carried some clout on the European stage it's deeply dispiriting to see what passes for top level Scottish football now. But when your club's in the blood you're pretty much stuck with them!

[bingo70]

I stopped watching Scotland games years ago and they've done nothing since to make me think I made the wrong decision. Quite why so many wring their hands and bemoan their ineptitude after ever fresh calamity is beyond me. They've been dross for decades and despite once having some high calibre players they weren't especially great as a team even way back then.

Scotland are my country and even if I wanted to I couldn't just stopped caring, that applies to all sports I'm interested in.

Find it a bit bizarre you're able to just stop supporting them tbh but each to their own.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Scotland are my country and even if I wanted to I couldn't just stopped caring, that applies to all sports I'm interested in.

Quite right too.

[JimBHibees]

I stopped watching Scotland games years ago and they've done nothing since to make me think I made the wrong decision. Quite why so many wring their hands and bemoan their ineptitude after every fresh calamity is beyond me. They've been dross for decades and despite once having some high calibre players they weren't especially great as a team even way back then.

Overall, as somebody else mentions, international football is vastly overrated and by and largely boring. The fact Scotland have for so long been a bit part player on this stage sums up how poor we are. Of course, you could rightly claim the Scottish game as a whole is probably as poor as it's ever been, and as someone who actually remembers when our clubs carried some clout on the European stage it's deeply dispiriting to see what passes for top level Scottish football now. But when your club's in the blood you're pretty much stuck with them!

Always watch and support Scotland games a bit like Hibs not the best quality but always want them to do well. Also support rugby games a bit like yourself a wee bit pointless and also not the best.

[JimBHibees]

Scotland are my country and even if I wanted to I couldn't just stopped caring, that applies to all sports I'm interested in.

Find it a bit bizarre you're able to just stop supporting them tbh but each to their own.

Totally agree. Bizarre.

[theonlywayisup]

Not read any of the previous comments, but here is my take on the game.

My first thought pre-match was why we hadn't sold every seat in what was also going to be a key, tricky but winnable game, especially after our win in Malta. By the end of the game, I could understand why people have turned away from Scotland.

The game started and my next thought was why did we start so slowly. We gave them too much time on the ball and were very slow when we were in possession. After 5 minutes, I knew that we were not going to win the game unless we 1) scored a cracker out of nothing, 2) they made a mistake or 3) we got lucky. It was Lithuania FFS, why did we give them so much time on the ball? If we started the game, the way we played the last five minutes, we would have won 3 or 4 nil.

As the game progress, I couldn't believe how poor Ritchie and Robertson were down the left. Why couldn't one of them at least get past the full back and get a cross in. But no, every time it was a pass backwards. It's Lithuania at home FFS!!

On the right, Paterson started poorly, but got better as the game went on. He had some poor challenges, some poor passes, but he never hid.

Burke looked by far our best player and was dragged down a few times when on the run. I couldn't believe that he was taken off, but there were two occasions when he gave up on a through ball or failed to track a player, so was hooked. I thought at the time, Strachan clearly doesn't want to lose this game rather than going for the win.

Martin up front, I thought, did well in holding up the ball. But, all he could do was pass the ball back to the midfield, who then didn't have a striker to target, so they played the ball sideways/backwards. It was like watching Barry Ferguson all over again.

I've always felt that Scotland (and England) are really poor at centre-back and until we find a better pairing, we will never make it as a team capable of winning our way through to major competitions. As someone who grew up watching the Scotland team of the 70s and 80s, this Scotland team is a pale imitation of those teams. If only we had a Holton, a McQueen, a Miller, a Mcleish, a Hansen, a Narey and that's only the centre backs!!!

The atmosphere started well but was dragged down by the Scotland display. I saw a number of ageing Scotland fans in kilts and bonnets that were very drunk. Very passionate, good nature and obviously there for the party. I suppose the football is so poor, it's best watching drunk.

I enjoyed the day out, but would I rush back. Em, no!!

[fulshie]

Not read any of the previous comments, but here is my take on the game.

My first thought pre-match was why we hadn't sold every seat in what was also going to be a key, tricky but winnable game, especially after our win in Malta. By the end of the game, I could understand why people have turned away from Scotland.

The game started and my next thought was why did we start so slowly. We gave them too much time on the ball and were very slow when we were in possession. After 5 minutes, I knew that we were not going to win the game unless we 1) scored a cracker out of nothing, 2) they made a mistake or 3) we got lucky. It was Lithuania FFS, why did we give them so much time on the ball? If we started the game, the way we played the last five minutes, we would have won 3 or 4 nil.

As the game progress, I couldn't believe how poor Ritchie and Robertson were down the left. Why couldn't one of them at least get past the full back and get a cross in. But no, every time it was a pass backwards. It's Lithuania at home FFS!!

On the right, Paterson started poorly, but got better as the game went on. He had some poor challenges, some poor passes, but he never hid.

Burke looked by far our best player and was dragged down a few times when on the run. I couldn't believe that he was taken off, but there were two occasions when he gave up on a through ball or failed to track a player, so was hooked. I thought at the time, Strachan clearly doesn't want to lose this game rather than going for the win.

Martin up front, I thought, did well in holding up the ball. But, all he could do was pass the ball back to the midfield, who then didn't have a striker to target, so they played the ball sideways/backwards. It was like watching Barry Ferguson all over again.

I've always felt that Scotland (and England) are really poor at centre-back and until we find a better pairing, we will never make it as a team capable of winning our way through to major competitions. As someone who grew up watching the Scotland team of the 70s and 80s, this Scotland team is a pale imitation of those teams. If only we had a Holton, a McQueen, a Miller, a Mcleish, a Hansen, a Narey and that's only the centre backs!!!

The atmosphere started well but was dragged down by the Scotland display. I saw a number of ageing Scotland fans in kilts and bonnets that were very drunk. Very passionate, good nature and obviously there for the party. I suppose the football is so poor, it's best watching drunk.

I enjoyed the day out, but would I rush back. Em, no!!Couldn't put it better myself although I thought you do Robertson an injustice as he had a tough time with "backpass" Ritchie in front of him. Wee Strachan needs to take a long at himself, poor set up, poor sub decisions and an absolutely pathetic post match interview. I bought the season book so I will be back.

[H18 SFR]

Martin O'Neill for Scotland. Seems to always find a way.

Are there any other managers with this trait that we could realistically get?

I know he wouldn't want the gig for the record.

[SHODAN]

My main problem with Scotland is the manager's (whoever they may be at the time) persistence to stick with players who are clearly underperforming, particularly up front.

4-5-1 I understand, particularly in international football. But we appear to go with someone who's doing okay, go "yeah, he's fine for the next couple years", stick him up front and persist in playing him no matter how he actually performs at international level or club level, and in spite of the other options we have.

First we had Kenny Miller. Then once he effectively forced the manager's hand by retiring, we had Steven Fletcher. Now it appears to be Chris Martin's turn to be constantly selected despite doing nothing of note. Leigh Griffiths should be our automatic starter (he can do the work of a two-man forward line anyway) and even then - where is Jordan Rhodes? Or Ross McCormack?

[Dashing Bob S]

I stopped watching Scotland games years ago and they've done nothing since to make me think I made the wrong decision. Quite why so many wring their hands and bemoan their ineptitude after every fresh calamity is beyond me. They've been dross for decades and despite once having some high calibre players they weren't especially great as a team even way back then.

Overall, as somebody else mentions, international football is vastly overrated and by and largely boring. The fact Scotland have for so long been a bit part player on this stage sums up how poor we are. Of course, you could rightly claim the Scottish game as a whole is probably as poor as it's ever been, and as someone who actually remembers when our clubs carried some clout on the European stage it's deeply dispiriting to see what passes for top level Scottish football now. But when your club's in the blood you're pretty much stuck with them!

Can't disagree with a single word of that, old chap.

[Brightside]

Based on the squad thats been picked I would go with something like this...but Wee Gordo wont...

Marshall

Paterson Berra Martin Robertson

Burke Morrison McArthur Snodgrass Anya

Griffiths


Plenty pace in that squad. We must take the game to Slovakia.

[Allant1981]

Based on the squad thats been picked I would go with something like this...but Wee Gordo wont...

Marshall

Paterson Berra Martin Robertson

Burke Morrison McArthur Snodgrass Anya

Griffiths


Plenty pace in that squad. We must take the game to Slovakia.

Berra is no better than hanley, both are poor to be honest, wouldnt go with the 3 you have in the middle, think fletcher would be better but agree with anya and burke on the wings, i would rather he had someone up front with griffiths but he wont

[SteveHFC]

Berra is no better than hanley, both are poor to be honest, wouldnt go with the 3 you have in the middle, think fletcher would be better but agree with anya and burke on the wings, i would rather he had someone up front with griffiths but he wont

Martin will start upfront on his own since he was outstanding on Saturday according to Strachan.

[CorrieHibs]

Berra is no better than hanley, both are poor to be honest, wouldnt go with the 3 you have in the middle, think fletcher would be better but agree with anya and burke on the wings, i would rather he had someone up front with griffiths but he wont

I think Darren Fletcher is out.

[Brightside]

Berra is no better than hanley, both are poor to be honest, wouldnt go with the 3 you have in the middle, think fletcher would be better but agree with anya and burke on the wings, i would rather he had someone up front with griffiths but he wont

Fletcher isn't training today and will have a fitness test tomorrow.

Brerra is in just as he is the only one to replace Hanley... I wouldn't have Hanley anywhere near a scotland squad.

[Blaster]

I'd play Maloney. Someone who can put their foot on the ball

[bingo70]

I'd play Maloney. Someone who can put their foot on the ball

And a goal threat.

I just don't see it with Callum Paterson at the back, very poor defensively IMO. I'm not really a fan of full backs on the wrong side but could tierney or Wallace (grass) work out there? I've always been impressed by Shinnie at Aberdeen, he can ply right or left back I think can't he? I'd have him in there.

[Brightside]

I'd play Maloney. Someone who can put their foot on the ball

He's not in the squad tho? Unless he was drafted in

[JimBHibees]

He's not in the squad tho? Unless he was drafted in

Maloney was on the bench Saturday.

[Blaster]

He's not in the squad tho? Unless he was drafted in

Yeah mate he was on the bench on Saturday

[Brightside]

Yeah mate he was on the bench on Saturday

In that case yes i'd have him in ahead of morrison...he can play further up and be a threat.

[eastmainsmsh]

I think king Kenny should take over 🍺

[Allant1981]

I think Darren Fletcher is out.

Didnt realise that cheers

[bingo70]

Sorry if this has been posted before but good interview with Chris Sutton on the BBC website about Strachan and I completely agree with everything he says.

I actually think he might be away in the coming days regardless of result tonight.

Hope the link below works.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04bn2tg?utm_source=Viber&utm_medium=Chat&utm_campaign=Private

[WeeRussell]

I stopped watching Scotland games years ago and they've done nothing since to make me think I made the wrong decision. Quite why so many wring their hands and bemoan their ineptitude after every fresh calamity is beyond me. They've been dross for decades and despite once having some high calibre players they weren't especially great as a team even way back then.

Overall, as somebody else mentions, international football is vastly overrated and by and largely boring. The fact Scotland have for so long been a bit part player on this stage sums up how poor we are. Of course, you could rightly claim the Scottish game as a whole is probably as poor as it's ever been, and as someone who actually remembers when our clubs carried some clout on the European stage it's deeply dispiriting to see what passes for top level Scottish football now. But when your club's in the blood you're pretty much stuck with them!

For a lot of us, our country is in our blood. Hence we'll continue to get annoyed when we get poor results, rather than just stop watching them.

[Hibs90]

Griffiths is not starting

[Albanian Hibs]

Griffiths is not starting

Terrible decision, but to be expected with him still the manager

[Hiber-nation]

I have no idea what goes on in Strachan's mind but I think he might bring back Anya for Burke, Steven Fletcher for Chris Martin, McArthur for Darren Fletcher and maybe even Hutton in for whatisname.

[blackpoolhibs]

I have no idea what goes on in Strachan's mind but I think he might bring back Anya for Burke, Steven Fletcher for Chris Martin, McArthur for Darren Fletcher and maybe even Hutton in for whatisname.

Me neither, but i do know whats going on in your's.

[Hiber-nation]

Me neither, but i do know whats going on in your's.

:greengrin

[blackpoolhibs]

:greengrin

:wink:

[Jonnyboy]

Me neither, but i do know whats going on in your's.

Can you PM me what's going on in mine G as I rarely know most days 😀

[SHODAN]

Griffiths is not starting

Looks like I was right in predicting that Martin is following Fletcher and Miller in the "can do no wrong" role up front for the next 2 campaigns.

[magpie1892]

I wouldn't have Hanley anywhere near a scotland squad.

I was at both the Malta and Lithuania games and Hanley was at fault for each of the goals conceded in these two fixtures.

Thing is, both Hanley and Ritchie are having stand-out seasons thus far for NUFC.

I think Scotland have a management problem. WTF Martin, a complete donkey, is doing on the park ahead of Griffiths is a complete mystery.

Speaking objectively, Strachan should have quit after the Euro Quals.

Not here to gloat. I know my lot are no great shakes either.

[Craig_in_Prague]

5/4 Slovakia looks good IMO.

[steve75]

I was at both the Malta and Lithuania games and Hanley was at fault for each of the goals conceded in these two fixtures.

Thing is, both Hanley and Ritchie are having stand-out seasons thus far for NUFC.

I think Scotland have a management problem. WTF Martin, a complete donkey, is doing on the park ahead of Griffiths is a complete mystery.

Speaking objectively, Strachan should have quit after the Euro Quals.

Not here to gloat. I know my lot are no great shakes either.

Hanley has only started 1 game for Newcastle and has only been used once as a sub. (Away to QPR when already 5-0 up)

[Onion]

For a lot of us, our country is in our blood. Hence we'll continue to get annoyed when we get poor results, rather than just stop watching them.

Always hoping for the best with Scotland, and tonight is a huge match. A win would go a long way to making up for that home draw. A loss, and we might as well sack Strachan and start rebuilding for 2020.

[Jonnyboy]

I was at both the Malta and Lithuania games and Hanley was at fault for each of the goals conceded in these two fixtures.

Thing is, both Hanley and Ritchie are having stand-out seasons thus far for NUFC.

I think Scotland have a management problem. WTF Martin, a complete donkey, is doing on the park ahead of Griffiths is a complete mystery.

Speaking objectively, Strachan should have quit after the Euro Quals.

Not here to gloat. I know my lot are no great shakes either.

Re Martin, I couldn't agree more. Said much the same earlier on in the thread, J

[blackpoolhibs]

Can you PM me what's going on in mine G as I rarely know most days 😀


:tee hee:

[HappyHanlon]

If Martin is to start then I want Strachan gone before a ball in even kicked tonight.

He's not scored domestically for 20 matches and has only really scored against minnows.

Maybe Chris Sutton has a point *shudders* , maybe Strachan is bored and not giving two ***** about the job.

Had a look at the U21's line up for their match and there's some good prospects there. Need to start playing them in friendlies.

[magpie1892]

Hanley has only started 1 game for Newcastle and has only been used once as a sub. (Away to QPR when already 5-0 up)

Incorrect. You're out by a factor of 250%.

[SteveHFC]

SCOTLAND: Marshall, Paterson, Hanley, Martin, Tierney, D Fletcher, McArthur, Snodgrass, Bannan, Ritchie, S Fletcher

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

For a lot of us, our country is in our blood. Hence we'll continue to get annoyed when we get poor results, rather than just stop watching them.

Unless there is a Rugby match at Murrayfield for mr young! Wooden spoon smilie! ;-)

[steve75]

Incorrect. You're out by a factor of 250%.

Was a bit hasty with the stats. But a quick look shows he isnt playing regularly for Newcastle and many weeks isn't even making the bench.

[GlesgaeHibby]

SCOTLAND: Marshall, Paterson, Hanley, Martin, Tierney, D Fletcher, McArthur, Snodgrass, Bannan, Ritchie, S Fletcher

Tierney is a great full back, but to drop Andy Robertson is baffling. He played well on saturday. What Griffiths has to do is beyond me, but at least Fletcher gets nod ahead of Martin.

[Mcpakeisgod]

Tierney is a great full back, but to drop Andy Robertson is baffling. He played well on saturday. What Griffiths has to do is beyond me, but at least Fletcher gets nod ahead of Martin.

According to sky sports Andy is carrying a knock

[euro Hibby]

i would like to have seen Leigh and Steven but i am not the manager.......

[magpie1892]

Was a bit hasty with the stats. But a quick look shows he isnt playing regularly for Newcastle and many weeks isn't even making the bench.

He's had a couple of minor injuries. When he's fit, he's ALWAYS made the starting XI, come on, or been on the bench. You weren't 'a bit hasty' with the stats, just wrong.

I've seen him play four times in the flesh this season - two for NUFC and two for Scotland. I caught another NUFC appearance on the TV. His performances for NUFC have been significantly better than those he has posted for the national team. This is why I suggested the problem may lie upstairs. The same goes for Ritchie, as I mentioned.

[magpie1892]

i would like to have seen Leigh and Steven but i am not the manager.......

I agree that this is by far the best way forward. 4-4-2 with Griffith playing off Fletcher - in an O'Connor/Riordan stylee.

Seems obvious, but I am not the manager either.

[Smartie]

Decent team, can't really complain.

Not sure about Ritchie out wide, always preferred him through the middle.

I've always liked Anya, I'd like to see him get a decent run. Maybe the last half hour when legs tire.

Delighted Martin's been dropped, I simply cannot believe he's been getting a game. I still like Fletcher, he's a good player and gets in just ahead of Leigh for me.

[Broken Gnome]

Ritchie can't play in the same team as Snodgrass. We're basically playing two left wingers who aren't quick to play left wing, so the better player gets to keep his favoured role while the other gets shown up by having to go backwards all the time.

[Col2]

Ritchie stays in - never seen him have a good game

No Griffiths. Yes fletch is improvement on Chris Martin but it's clear we are defensive.

No Burke

No pace, no creativity, (probably) No hope

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

not the best team but, support the jersey more than who fills them.

[blackpoolhibs]

A win please Scotland. :pray:

[hfc rd]

Is Marek Hamsik playing? If so, I'm sure he'll definitely be up for it against our weakest area - defence.

[cabbageandribs1875]

impressive tartan army there :saltireflag

[blackpoolhibs]

That Slovakian anthem is a catchy tune. :faf:

[lucky]

I think GS has lost the plot. How's Burke not even on the bench? He clearly does not rate LG, I'm surprised SF starts when did he last put a performance in? Team does not look balanced.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Damn Pink strips

[Stax]

X2 goalies on the bench and no Burke?

[cabbageandribs1875]

4 games without a goal for slovakia....oh oh

[lucky]

Good chance for Fletcher but totally miscues his header. Slovakia look a poor side.

[TRC]

Can't get the Scotland game to work in Sweden so watching England and Slovenia look pretty handy

[cabbageandribs1875]

4 games without a goal for slovakia....oh oh




and there we have it

[SteveHFC]

Oh **** off

[blackpoolhibs]

FFS Referee

[Thecat23]

9 outfield players in the box and we couldn't stop that. Wow... just wow!

[Waxy]

No gonna happen again. We've become world minnows.

[Forever_Green93]

How was that not a free kick?!

[Scouse Hibee]

Have they scored :-)

[lucky]

How far away is the tv camera from the pitch? The stand it's in must be really high!

[heretoday]

Damn Pink strips

One day in the future they'll be running out in bra and fishnets.

Actually, I might pay to see that.

[Keith_M]

Have they scored :-)


What makes you think that?



:greengrin

[cabbageandribs1875]

One day in the future they'll be running out in bra and fishnets.

Actually, I might pay to see that.



or clown suits, all the rage at the moment

[Glory Lurker]

Does the ref have cards?

[CentreLine]

Does the ref have cards?

We'll see them when a Scot commits to a robust tackle

[cabbageandribs1875]

U21's beaten 2-0 in Macedonia, sigh

[Keith_M]

One day in the future they'll be running out in bra and fishnets.

Actually, I might pay to see that.


You mean like this?



http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/253104/slide_253104_1572993_free.jpg

[blackpoolhibs]

We are a better team than this lot, but one bad decision has us facing an uphill battle. :rolleyes:

[heretoday]

Paterson's got a Hitler moustache. That won't go down well with the Slovaks.

[magpie1892]

How far away is the tv camera from the pitch? The stand it's in must be really high!

It's no higher than the West at ER, the gantry is right at the back of the top tier - where they have cameras at ER also...

I think they just need to zoom in slightly as the pitchside shots are all fine.

[Joe6-2]

You mean like this?



http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/253104/slide_253104_1572993_free.jpg

I wish 11 of them were playing 😉

[GlesgaeHibby]

We've been the better team, a shocking refereeing decision costing us.

[3pm]

Tierney won't be at Parkhead long.

Barry Bannan is murder.

[blackpoolhibs]

I'd get Fletcher off now and let Griffiths use his pace against that back 4 who are slower than Hibs back 4.

[hfc rd]

We've been the better team, a shocking refereeing decision costing us.



This. Then again their GK has hardly been tested compared to David Marshall for us.

Bring Leigh Griffiths on.

[HibbyAndy]

Bannan and S.Fletcher are like playing 2 men down.

[(((Fergus)))]

Why are we dressed as hookers?

[lucky]

It's like watching Hibs. Plenty of passing but nothing up front and dodgey at the back. Wonder if this ex Celtic manager has a plan B

[hfc rd]

The two Sheffield Wednesday players, Bannan & Fletcher, have been our two most poorest players on the pitch. Diabolical, the pair of them.

[Michael]

Why are we dressed as hookers?

'cause we're getting pumped.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I know we'll get beat from England but, they are abysmal, where does the SKY dough go?

[SaulGoodman]

It's like watching a Hibs team play in pink. Nothing upfront, useless balls to nowhere, pish crossing and when we do get a good ball in there's no one there and no one following in

[heretoday]

Bannan is awful. Shame we have to include second-raters like that.

[Jonnyboy]

Bannan is awful. Shame we have to include second-raters like that.

Agreed, as is Snodgrass

[Golden Bear]

Disappointing, although I still think we'll get something from this game.

[hibeedonald]

Griffiths on for fletch now surely

[chasitup]

Bannan is awful. Shame we have to include second-raters like that.
I have no idea how he gets a game. I think Mcarthur is poor too and Snodgrass has had a shocker so far.

[rotherhamrob]

Can anyone explain how bannan and fletcher are getting in before Griffiths and is Burke injured or dropped?

[euro Hibby]

yeah slow at the back the slovaks and wee leigh would have enjoyed that. as some one said, like Hibs and who chose the pink strips ?

lets see the subs

[madhatter]

Scotland are playing like Hibs.

3 midfielders in the middle and none of them could be classified as playmakers.

Far too defensive.

You can play attacking formations but with defensive minded players you won't achieve much.

McGeouch, Fyvie, Bartley = Fletcher, Bannan, McArthur.

What has happened to Morrison, Ross McCormack, Anya, and Dorrans?

I'd honestly drop Fletcher, Bannan and McArthur and start Bridcutt, Dorrans and Morrison.

Compare the position of Hamsik to Scotland's midfielders, he is quite a bit higher on the pitch when they attack.

[bingo70]

It's like watching Hibs. Plenty of passing but nothing up front and dodgey at the back. Wonder if this ex Celtic manager has a plan B

Just said the same.

Flood the midfield so we win the ball a lot and have good possession but nobody getting in the box.

[euro Hibby]

the thing is Scotland cannot affort to have one player off form let alone 3 or 4

[Thecat23]

If we lose this Strapon hasn't a leg to stand on. Bye, bye you little ****ing twat of a man.

Playing Fletcher and Bannan is actually borderline hilarious.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

I just put true love never dies on the jukebox, quite apt really :-)

[HibbyAndy]

I just put true love never dies on the jukebox, quite apt really :-)

Flip N fill love it :aok:

[Onion]

Too defensive. Final ball and lack of attacking support allowing their awful defence enough time to clear the danger. A decent side would be hammering the Slovaks by now. Strachan really has no option now but to go for it second half, as his tenure as Scotland manager is on the line.

[cabbageandribs1875]

yeah slow at the back the slovaks and wee leigh would have enjoyed that. as some one said, like Hibs and who chose the pink strips ?

lets see the subs


probably the same trumpet that introduced burgundy to the scottish national football team kit a few years back, scotland should play in blue...end of

[jonny]

Can anyone explain how bannan and fletcher are getting in before Griffiths and is Burke injured or dropped?

Burke is dropped. Strachan said he told Burke this was a game for experienced players in his pre match interview.

[SkintHibby]

Paterson's got a Hitler moustache. That won't go down well with the Slovaks.

Slovakia was allied to Germany during the war. (Just sayin) :agree:

[cabbageandribs1875]

Burke is dropped. Strachan said he told Burke this was a game for experienced players in his pre match interview.



good old Gord, always the funny guy



:)

[lucky]

Scotland 11/1 to win now. If GS showed a little bit of bravery and went with 2 up top this game is winnable

[Scouse Hibee]

What a save from Joe Hart phenomenal.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

If we lose this Strapon hasn't a leg to stand on. Bye, bye you little ****ing twat of a man.

Playing Fletcher and Bannan is actually borderline hilarious.



Have a word. That is undignified.

[bingo70]

Burke is dropped. Strachan said he told Burke this was a game for experienced players in his pre match interview.

Did he have any suggestions on how youngsters get experience?

There must be more to it than that

[Highland_Hibee]

We've been far better than we were all game vs Lithuania. You play the whistle but they should never have had the opportunity to build up to their goal.


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[HUTCHYHIBBY]

Flip N fill love it :aok:

Quickly followed by Set you free, i'm onto the bevvy now! ;-)

[3pm]

Burke is dropped. Strachan said he told Burke this was a game for experienced players in his pre match interview.

Like Tierney and Paterson!

[Thecat23]

Have a word. That is undignified.

Listen, he's one of the most arrogant men in football. My opinion of him won't change and the sooner he goes the better.

He's more interested in being a sarcastic comedian than a manager. Shame he's ***** at both.

[SteveHFC]

Strachan out

No ****ing excuses now.

[Thecat23]

Quickly followed by Set you free, i'm onto the bevvy now! ;-)

TUUUUNE.

Fire some TTF, Real love in there too!

[Benny Brazil]

Shocking defending Martin and Hanley need shot

[SteveHFC]

TUUUUNE.

Fire some TTF, Real love in there too!

New Emotion too.

[Thecat23]

New Emotion too.

You know it Steve!

[cabbageandribs1875]

right, for the 2022 WC i want to see us in a group with


Andorra
Gibraltar
San Marino
Liechtenstein
Malta


safe £1 bet that we would come no lower than 2nd

[Scouse Hibee]

Have they scored again :-)

[David_D]

Game over I think.

[Green Reaper]

Abysmal defending

[Lago]

What poor stuff.

[Forever_Green93]

Once again absolute stinking defending by Scotland.

[SteveHFC]

You know it Steve!

Dreamscape too.

[Thecat23]

Have they scored again :-)

Yep, but let's be honest it no shock is it?

How's the England game been?

[Joe6-2]

Are this lot really professional footballers, absolutely shocking!
As for strachan, GTF!

[heretoday]

Slovakia was allied to Germany during the war. (Just sayin) :agree:

Sorry I'm thinking of the Czechs.

[ionahibby]

Despite us losing if the England game stays a draw or a Slovenia win it isn't really a disaster just yet we would still have a healthy chance of qualifying.

[Golden Bear]

The ba's burst. The days of us producing talented football players are long on.

[Scouse Hibee]

Yep, but let's be honest it no shock is it?

How's the England game been?

England are struggling and without two great saves from Hart would be behind.

[lucky]

One paced team with little idea. As for GS bye bye. He dropped Burke and Robertson the only two players with pace.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Listen, he's one of the most arrogant men in football. My opinion of him won't change and the sooner he goes the better.

He's more interested in being a sarcastic comedian than a manager. Shame he's ***** at both.

GTF with your listen pish. Come out with statements like that and you're as arrogant as the man you're trying to snide.

[blackpoolhibs]

Despite us losing if the England game stays a draw or a Slovenia win it isn't really a disaster just yet we would still have a healthy chance of qualifying.

Aye right, would that be because like the hibs we would go unbeaten right to the end of the campaign? :rolleyes:

[Brightside]

Missed the first half as i was at training... the second half has been everything expected from scotland under strachan. Utter utter piyesh.

[Thecat23]

England are struggling and without two great saves from Hart would be behind.

Least you will pick up a few goals against us if Strachan is still here.

[cabbageandribs1875]

muchas too late little man, too late

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Despite us losing if the England game stays a draw or a Slovenia win it isn't really a disaster just yet we would still have a healthy chance of qualifying.

I think they call that blind optimism!

[Thecat23]

GTF with your listen pish. Come out with statements like that and you're as arrogant as the man you're trying to snide.

Snide.. no heard that in ages I like it.

He's a wee arse of a man I'd happily tell that to his face if you want to drive him to my door?

[hibbysam]

Aye right, would that be because like the hibs we would go unbeaten right to the end of the campaign? :rolleyes:

Exactly, surely better England winning. We aren't and we're never going to top the group. England win, due to slovakias ***** start we'd be in contention but only if we get rid of strachan!

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

One paced team with little idea. As for GS bye bye. He dropped Burke and Robertson the only two players with pace.

According to the radio both were injured

[SteveHFC]

You have to laugh :faf:

[cabbageandribs1875]

#ashamed


looking forward to wee cheeky jokey gordons interview

[lucky]

Now 3 down against a poor side

[SRHibs]

Have they scored again :-)
This is effectively like a Yam coming on here and doing that every time Hibs lose a goal. Bolt, eh.

[Scouse Hibee]

Another one :-)

[Brightside]

Hanley must be one of the worst defenders to play for Scotland.

[cabbageandribs1875]

This is effectively like a Yam coming on here and doing that every time Hibs lose a goal. Bolt, eh.



best not biting :)

[Scouse Hibee]

This is effectively like a Yam coming on here and doing that every time Hibs lose a goal. Bolt, eh.

Nah ur awrite I'll hang around but thanks anyway.

[Benny Brazil]

I could defend better than Grant ****ing Hanley

[jonny]

According to the radio both were injured

Not according to Strachan. In his pre-match interview he said Robertson picked up a knock but Burke was dropped due to his inexperience.

[Hibs90]

Let's get big Sam in.

[ionahibby]

Aye right, would that be because like the hibs we would go unbeaten right to the end of the campaign? :rolleyes:

If it stays the way it is we will only be 3 point behind England hardly difficult to overturn!

[Mr White]

This is effectively like a Yam coming on here and doing that every time Hibs lose a goal. Bolt, eh.

He gets as good as he gives. It's nothing at all like a yam coming on here to gloat.

[HibbiesandtheBaddies]

Snide.. no heard that in ages I like it.

He's a wee arse of a man I'd happily tell that to his face if you want to drive him to my door?


I'm sure you would. But I'd be at the door as well and i'd be reminding you to keep your manners.

[cabbageandribs1875]

be better with Grant Stott in defence

[Thecat23]

Oh flower of Scotland..... 👀

[bigwheel]

Another one :-)

Cheesing on a Scottish football teams forum when their national team is getting beat ...classy ...really great forum participation...

[J-C]

Strachan not the man for the gig, bizarre selections and press conferences

[Brightside]

GTF with your listen pish. Come out with statements like that and you're as arrogant as the man you're trying to snide.

No really. Strachan is an utter bell end.

[The Captain....]

Difficult to remember Scotland having poorer defenders than Hanley and Callum ****ing Patterson - Slovakia clearly targetted our right back area after watching the game on Saturday.

Strachan will be gone after this I think (and hope)..I still think there's a more effective team/formation as we have some half decent players but we are really struggling defensively...Hanley is as poor a player as I've seen at international level.

[murray26]

Scotland should just pack it in.. shambles.. even when Strachan does get the boot nothing will really change.. it will be the same players.. years of neglect..

[Pretty Boy]

What a save from Joe Hart phenomenal.

One of the best saves I've ever seen, better than Banks v Pele imo.

[SRHibs]

nah ur awrite i'll hang around but thanks anyway.
ltef

[hiberactive]

Slovakia was allied to Germany during the war. (Just sayin) :agree:
Slovakia was not a country during the war so how could they be be allied to Germany???

[blackpoolhibs]

If it stays the way it is we will only be 3 point behind England hardly difficult to overturn!

You do know we can read what you are typing? :confused:

[Thecat23]

I'm sure you would. But I'd be at the door as well and i'd be reminding you to keep your manners.

I'm actually a well mannered man I'll have you know. I'd even invite you both in for coffee first, but I hope you won't be trying to intimidate me as that's 2 on 1 and not showing good manners now is it?

[SRHibs]

He gets as good as he gives. It's nothing at all like a yam coming on here to gloat.

Well, it is. Hibs are a Scottish club and this is a thread for the purpose of supporting Scotland. He's coming into this thread with the sole intent of winding us up. What's the point exactly?

[SteveHFC]

McGinn coming on.

[Scouse Hibee]

Cheesing on a Scottish football teams forum when their national team is getting beat ...classy ...really great forum participation...

Aw come on you know the score. Don't give me that pish, I take it without crying so man up and accept it for what it is.

[Golden Bear]

Mcginn coming on, rather he didn't at this stage actually.

[Just Jimmy]

This will be 4 or 5. Scotland are a shambles.

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[Thecat23]

No really. Strachan is an utter bell end.

Correct.

[David_D]

So Burke is not experienced enough for squad but McGinn is.

[blackpoolhibs]

McGinn coming on, you just know he will get injured.

[SaulGoodman]

Please don't bring Mcginn on. Poor laddie

[The Captain....]

Mcginn coming on, rather he didn't at this stage actually.

Exactly what I was thinking...

[Mr White]

Well, it is. Hibs are a Scottish club and this is a thread for the purpose of supporting Scotland. He's coming into this thread with the sole intent of winding us up. What's the point exactly?

There's an ignore function if it bothers you that much.

[Scouse Hibee]

Well, it is. Hibs are a Scottish club and this is a thread for the purpose of supporting Scotland. He's coming into this thread with the sole intent of winding us up. What's the point exactly?

It's a bit of give and take banter,lighten up ffs.

[SRHibs]

We've passed the ball around alright, but we play with absolutely no purpose and the defence is a total shambles. Least Strachan will be out after this mess.

[SunshineOnLeith]

Brutal decision to put McGinn into this game, not the environment for a young, inexperienced player to come into.

[magpie1892]

Sorry I'm thinking of the Czechs.

The Czechs were allied to Germany in WWII?

Deary me...

[660]

Come back is on. SJM to get a hat trick within 10 mins then shapeshift into gray and henderson and get the winner in 90+2

[SouthsideHarp_Bhoy]

Not according to Strachan. In his pre-match interview he said Robertson picked up a knock but Burke was dropped due to his inexperience.

Fair enough, must have heard wrong

[Ronniekirk]

Now 3 down against a poor side

Not even watching the game But still shocked to read we are 3 down

[blackpoolhibs]

That should be Fletchers last cap, along with a couple of others like Bannan and McCarthy. If we have a traffic cone going spare, then i'd add Hanley to that list.

[Albanian Hibs]

It's a bit of give and take banter,lighten up ffs.

Aye cause its a right laugh right enough

[cabbageandribs1875]

i wonder just how far down the world rankings our national team will plummet before the blazer-wearing ***** have a wee meeting and agree something needs done

[lucky]

Good ball by SJM to LG

[SRHibs]

SJM.:not worth

[Heisenberg]

Great pass from McGinn and poor miss from Sparky.

[K-Zazu]

What a ball from McGinn more than bannan and d fletcher have done in 2 games

[Scouse Hibee]

Aye cause its a right laugh right enough

Oh dear

[hibee_girl]

Aye cause its a right laugh right enough

Let's not pretend that if England were getting humped we wouldn't be slagging Scouse tonight

[SaulGoodman]

It's a bit of give and take banter,lighten up ffs.

It's a gid job England are ***** an aw or I might be biting :wink:

[heretoday]

The Czechs were allied to Germany in WWII?

Deary me...

I think we're at cross purposes here! Forget it, please!

[SRHibs]

Let's not pretend that if England were getting humped we wouldn't be slagging Scouse tonight

Aye, on a Scottish forum. Same thing like.

[Scouse Hibee]

It's a gid job England are ***** an aw or I might be biting :wink:

:-)

[SRHibs]

We've looked more threatening in the last 5 minutes than for the entire game. SJM and Griffiths should start.

[Brightside]

I'm actually a well mannered man I'll have you know. I'd even invite you both in for coffee first, but I hope you won't be trying to intimidate me as that's 2 on 1 and not showing good manners now is it?

Strachan is only a half....put an advertising boarding join your front garden and he wouldn't get in.

[Glory Lurker]

This surely warrants an SFA think tank?

The powers that be are completely unfit for purpose.

[h1bee123]

Lithuania now 1 up agaisnt Malta - a draw would have been a good result for us.

[Stax]

i wonder just how far down the world rankings our national team will plummet before the blazer-wearing ***** have a wee meeting and agree something needs done

It's the blazer wearing c**^* that perpetuate the state our game domestically & internationaly.

[Pretty Boy]

Aye, on a Scottish forum. Same thing like.

It's not a Scottish forum though. It's a forum for Hibs fans wherever they happen to come from.

[Bostonhibby]

i wonder just how far down the world rankings our national team will plummet before the blazer-wearing ***** have a wee meeting and agree something needs done

Cannae see it being that quick, their number 1 priority will still be all things Sevco but they might manage to have a meeting to decide if they want to have a meeting to see how well they think they have done, just before dishing out the pats on the back and pay rises for doing such a good job.

It's an inward looking self serving body accountable to no one but themselves and turkeys don't vote for Xmas.

[Scouse Hibee]

Aye, on a Scottish forum. Same thing like.

I have lived in Scotland and followed a Scottish team for 24 years, stands to reason I will banter with Scots folk on a Scottish club forum surely?

[lucky]

Aye, on a Scottish forum. Same thing like.

This is a Hibs forum not Scottish. But how can you not laugh at how Strachan set this team up. He's as clueless as Butcher

[Thecat23]

Scotland are very poor and chronic to watch.

But if I was an England fan I'd be embarrassed at the money they get invested compared to us and how utterly ***** they are as well

[Billy Whizz]

Was listening to Peter Houston on sports sound pre match. He said 7 of tonight's stating 11 played under Levein when he was Scotland manager. If that's the case, Strachan has done to evolve our national team

[blackpoolhibs]

Let's not pretend that if England were getting humped we wouldn't be slagging Scouse tonight

Strange, i always thought anyone doing it was labeled a troll, and offered a wee rest from this forum or given the dreaded server busy routine?

[SRHibs]

It's not a Scottish forum though. It's a forum for Hibs fans wherever they happen to come from.

Predominantly Scottish, in a Scottish supporting thread. Anyway, I get it; the admins are fine with it, let's move on.

[Sir David Gray]

Absolute embarrassment again tonight.

Strachan should have gone after the failure to qualify for the Euros and after tonight his position is untenable.

New manager in for the England game please.

[theonlywayisup]

I've always felt that Scotland (and England) are really poor at centre-back and until we find a better pairing, we will never make it as a team capable of winning our way through to major competitions. As someone who grew up watching the Scotland team of the 70s and 80s, this Scotland team is a pale imitation of those teams. If only we had a Holton, a McQueen, a Miller, a Mcleish, a Hansen, a Narey and that's only the centre backs!!!


Another game that proves our centre backs are poor. Surely we must have better players than the current two.

[cabbageandribs1875]

so, wee gordon, will it be


'they're a team with a lot of class' ah mean did yi watch thum mr interviewer

and if it wisnae fer that foul on fletch in the 1st half we probably wid o won 2 or 3 nowt

[Brightside]

This surely warrants an SFA think tank?

The powers that be are completely unfit for purpose.

hahaha. They have been having a think tank since Wotte was in the job... we are still waiting for it to be delivered.

[Thecat23]

Strachan is only a half....put an advertising boarding join your front garden and he wouldn't get in.

😂😂

[Biggie]

Hmmmm Lennon and strachan, the only team they have both had success with was Celtc.....easy to win **** when you've loads more money than anyone else.
I don't think either are good managers, both prone to weird team selections, and have an attitude.....but obviously hope Lennon proves me wrong.
Strachan has to walk now.

[Scouse Hibee]

strange, i always thought anyone doing it was labeled a troll, and offered a wee rest from this forum or given the dreaded server busy routine?

wtf?

[Brightside]

Another game that proves our centre backs are poor. Surely we must have better players than the current two.

Hanlon, Davidson, the two lads at Aberdeen.... there are plenty that at least should be tried out.

[Joe6-2]

Absolute embarrassment again tonight.

Strachan should have gone after the failure to qualify for the Euros and after tonight his position is untenable.

New manager in for the England game please.

Sadly it won't change mid qualifiers

[bigwheel]

Aw come on you know the score. Don't give me that pish, I take it without crying so man up and accept it for what it is.

Rival fan cheesing on forum....knock yourself
out if that's what you get your kicks from

[Pretty Boy]

Replacing Strachan won't change a thing.

Another manager who can't get a job anywhere else won't change a failing youth system and suddenly unearth a load of hidden talent. Yes they may well actually pick strikers who score goals or play a multi million pound player in his actual position but the fundemental problems remain. We're a footballing backwater due to decades of mismanagement and neglect and there's no real will to change that where it matters.

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[Hibs90]

Maybe a Team GB is the way forward

[cabbageandribs1875]

Strange, i always thought anyone doing it was labeled a troll, and offered a wee rest from this forum or given the dreaded server busy routine?



depend who yi ken :agree::greengrin

[bingo70]

Sadly it won't change mid qualifiers

I feel pretty sure it will.

No way he'll be able to stay on after this.

[murray26]

Replacing Strachan won't change a thing.

Another manager who can't get a job anywhere else won't change a failing youth system and suddenly unearth a load of hidden talent. Yes they may well actually pick strikers who score goals or play a multi million pound player in his actual position but the fundemental problems remain. We're a footballing backwater due to decades of mismanagement and neglect and there's no real will to change that where it matters.

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Nail on the head 👍

[Golden Bear]

Replacing Strachan won't change a thing.

Another manager who can't get a job anywhere else won't change a failing youth system and suddenly unearth a load of hidden talent. Yes they may well actually pick strikers who score goals or play a multi million pounf player in his actual position but the fundemental problems reamin. We're a footballing backwater due to decades of mismanagement and neglect and there's no real will to change that where it matters.

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Absolutely correct.

[Scouse Hibee]

Rival fan cheesing on forum....knock yourself
out if that's what you get your kicks from

Cheers.

[blackpoolhibs]

I feel pretty sure it will.

No way he'll be able to stay on after this.

I can see him Walking after tonight, he is not one to wait for the chop.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Maybe a Team GB is the way forward



i'd rather we were ranked 250 along beside tonga, which is a possibility come to think of it