View Full Version : Lennon predicting a busy week in the transfer market.
Speedway
04-08-2016, 01:56 PM
No further signings 'in the offing'
http://sport.bt.com/football/europa-league/news/hibernian-boss-neil-lennon-to-vigorously-challenge-five-match-uefa-ban-S11364077463106?
le bill
04-08-2016, 01:56 PM
Not sure if I slipped into a coma for ALL of August and missed the transfer window "slamming shut"😳
By the looks of some of the posts in here August has finished and their nice dry beds need wetting ... I wish some folks on here would just give our new manager, who has been in the job less time than I have food in the fridge, time to get the team playing his way and not the easy to frustrate team of last season.
I bet its all "mouldy" prawn sandwiches :na na: :greengrin
Keyser Sauzee
04-08-2016, 02:04 PM
No further signings 'in the offing'
http://sport.bt.com/football/europa-league/news/hibernian-boss-neil-lennon-to-vigorously-challenge-five-match-uefa-ban-S11364077463106?
He does go on to say after that tho they are working to bring in 2 more.
Steve20
04-08-2016, 02:05 PM
Two more sounds about right. Henderson and a striker.
Dashing Bob S
04-08-2016, 02:11 PM
Pity the guy is getting such a hard time for expressing his opinion.
It is pretty weird. It's football FFS, and it's supposed to be fun and about opinions.
BSEJVT
04-08-2016, 02:27 PM
It is pretty weird. It's football FFS, and it's supposed to be fun and about opinions.
Both have been a bit lacking on Hibs Net recently, you either go with the majority view or have a host of posters queuing up to argue with and belittle you.
The arguing bit is fine, the belittling much less so.
There's no question that it is stifling the debate and at least in the old days the doom and gloomers and happy clappers were more evenly matched :greengrin
There does seem to be a distinct lack of respect for a differing view.
I get it to some extent if there is trawling involved, but often there is not and someone just thinks differently.
Their view may turn out to incorrect in the long or even short term, but if its honestly held it would be a pity if they were dissuaded from expressing it in fear of the reaction.
bordergreen
04-08-2016, 02:47 PM
Both have been a bit lacking on Hibs Net recently, you either go with the majority view or have a host of posters queuing up to argue with and belittle you.
The arguing bit is fine, the belittling much less so.
There's no question that it is stifling the debate and at least in the old days the doom and gloomers and happy clappers were more evenly matched :greengrin
There does seem to be a distinct lack of respect for a differing view.
I get it to some extent if there is trawling involved, but often there is not and someone just thinks differently.
Their view may turn out to incorrect in the long or even short term, but if its honestly held it would be a pity if they were dissuaded from expressing it in fear of the reaction.
Well said sir!
Both have been a bit lacking on Hibs Net recently, you either go with the majority view or have a host of posters queuing up to argue with and belittle you.
The arguing bit is fine, the belittling much less so.
There's no question that it is stifling the debate and at least in the old days the doom and gloomers and happy clappers were more evenly matched :greengrin
There does seem to be a distinct lack of respect for a differing view.
I get it to some extent if there is trawling involved, but often there is not and someone just thinks differently.
Their view may turn out to incorrect in the long or even short term, but if its honestly held it would be a pity if they were dissuaded from expressing it in fear of the reaction.
Ffs where were you when i thought Valur might beat Brondby?
Allant1981
04-08-2016, 03:02 PM
We finished third last season.
We've lost two of our best players.
I don't see how we are stronger than last season!
I'm sorry if this upsets a few of you but that's my honest opinion.
I think we have a decent side but I don't think it's good enough or strong enough to go the distance. I fear the same situation as last season.
I think we're all secretly preying that Falkirk, Utd & Dunfermline are going to be poor, I really hope that's the case!
Genuinely surprised at how confident a lot of folk are. Pre - season friendliest mean the square route of **** all for me and having watched Brondby at Easter Road, I can't say I was overly impressed with them. I think more than a few might be in for a shock once the season gets underway.
Away and blether somewhere else
Borderhibbie76
04-08-2016, 03:07 PM
**** Dunfermline!! I don't get this optimism about how well they are going to do this season! If it had been Stranraer who had won that league last season then we would all be talking about how that's 12 points in the bag.
Dunfermline are *****, end of.
Posted this a few times on here I don't get this Dunfermline love it at all...they r gash and anyone who watched their game v Dundee Utd last week would agree. I don't think they even mustered a shot at goal in 90 mins. They might be top half but no threat to us at all imo
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Allant1981
04-08-2016, 03:08 PM
Pity the guy is getting such a hard time for expressing his opinion.
There is expressing your opinion and posting rubbish to get a reaction, certainly looks like the latter
erin go bragh
04-08-2016, 03:34 PM
Yes it's going to be a long season 👀 Unlucky to lose against Brondby at ER . Brilliant performance in Denmark .
Holt , Cummings and Keatings all scoring in the pre season games . Our defence is looking solid and we have just signed a big athletic keeper with International experience .
Id say we're in better shape for this season than any other in recent memory . Bring it on . Did I mention were the Scottish cup holders .
hibee-boys
04-08-2016, 03:47 PM
I can see it from both points of view, I've been encouraged by our pre-season, delighted we've managed to secure the services of Lennon. However, given the cup win, increase in season ticket sales, reducing the wage bill following a number of departures and primarily an expectation that Lennon would not have taken the job unless he was given reasonable budget, I did expect 2/3 stand out signings within this window.
Big_Franck
04-08-2016, 04:22 PM
No further signings 'in the offing'
http://sport.bt.com/football/europa-league/news/hibernian-boss-neil-lennon-to-vigorously-challenge-five-match-uefa-ban-S11364077463106?
I think Lennon is making a mistake if he is looking at MAYBE bringing two more in. We need more than that or it's going to be another extremely tough league campaign IMO.
Finn2015
04-08-2016, 04:59 PM
It looks like nobody is worried at all regards the season ahead or is it that the ones that are just cant be arsed with the happy clappers shooting them down I wonder.
Oh well, everyone has opinions! We'll just need to wait and see what the season brings. 😁
Not really. I do think we have the strongest side in the division although I don't think it will be a cake walk by any means
Finn2015
04-08-2016, 05:00 PM
Both have been a bit lacking on Hibs Net recently, you either go with the majority view or have a host of posters queuing up to argue with and belittle you.
The arguing bit is fine, the belittling much less so.
There's no question that it is stifling the debate and at least in the old days the doom and gloomers and happy clappers were more evenly matched :greengrin
There does seem to be a distinct lack of respect for a differing view.
I get it to some extent if there is trawling involved, but often there is not and someone just thinks differently.
Their view may turn out to incorrect in the long or even short term, but if its honestly held it would be a pity if they were dissuaded from expressing it in fear of the reaction.
Great post. 👍👍👍
JimBHibees
04-08-2016, 05:04 PM
I can see it from both points of view, I've been encouraged by our pre-season, delighted we've managed to secure the services of Lennon. However, given the cup win, increase in season ticket sales, reducing the wage bill following a number of departures and primarily an expectation that Lennon would not have taken the job unless he was given reasonable budget, I did expect 2/3 stand out signings within this window.
The window isnt shut yet.
Albanian Hibs
04-08-2016, 05:05 PM
It looks like nobody is worried at all regards the season ahead or is it that the ones that are just cant be arsed with the happy clappers shooting them down I wonder.
Oh well, everyone has opinions! We'll just need to wait and see what the season brings. 😁
It sounds like you actually want us to struggle 🙄
Big L
04-08-2016, 05:13 PM
I hear the Irish striker Joe Gormley is training at EM scored 85 goals in 133 games for Cliftonville. Signed for Peterborough last year and immediately had a cruciate.
CockneyRebel
04-08-2016, 05:22 PM
I hear the Irish striker Joe Gormley is training at EM scored 85 goals in 133 games for Cliftonville. Signed for Peterborough last year and immediately had a cruciate.
A striker called Joe Gormley - did he used to be a miner?
archiebald
04-08-2016, 05:23 PM
The window isnt shut yet.
Just said on STV when asked about Stevie mallen there was nothing in that
I hear the Irish striker Joe Gormley is training at EM scored 85 goals in 133 games for Cliftonville. Signed for Peterborough last year and immediately had a cruciate.
The only thing I know about him is he sent this to Stokes after the cup final
@stoksey10 unbelievable 👏 🍀
And from checking his Twitter he's a big Celtic fan.. I'm quite the investigator
Dashing Bob S
04-08-2016, 05:29 PM
Both have been a bit lacking on Hibs Net recently, you either go with the majority view or have a host of posters queuing up to argue with and belittle you.
The arguing bit is fine, the belittling much less so.
There's no question that it is stifling the debate and at least in the old days the doom and gloomers and happy clappers were more evenly matched :greengrin
There does seem to be a distinct lack of respect for a differing view.
I get it to some extent if there is trawling involved, but often there is not and someone just thinks differently.
Their view may turn out to incorrect in the long or even short term, but if its honestly held it would be a pity if they were dissuaded from expressing it in fear of the reaction.
I personally think we're in great shape for the season, and will have stronger, more confident squad under a manager more likely to dominate a weaker league.
But the opposing view that we have a weak pool and might not find as easy as some people think, is an equally valid one, and certainly worth making.
If you can't say something an innocuous as that without being shouted down, then it seems that Scottish Cup win has done something strange to our collective psyche.
Lee Marvin
04-08-2016, 05:35 PM
I hear the Irish striker Joe Gormley is training at EM scored 85 goals in 133 games for Cliftonville. Signed for Peterborough last year and immediately had a cruciate.
Could be something in this
http://www.irishnews.com/sport/2016/08/03/news/could-joe-gormley-link-up-with-liam-boyce-again--636007/
Lost our two best players? Other than a cracking cup final Stokes was average at best. Keatings would have done just as much in them games if he played in stokes place. As for Henderson, well I still think he will be back.
We lost:
Farid - barley played anyway so no lose plus Holt is an improvement
Dagnall - again didn't do anything so no lose.
Thomson - Martin will replace him.
Logan - we just signed his replacement.
Oxley - Laidlaw will do just as well as he did.
We now have the likes of Harris, Stanton, Carmichael, Handling, Crane Insall and Dunsmore all in to stake a claim in the team.
And before you write Harris Stanton and Insall off. All three did well on loan and deserve a chance to prove people wrong and have all done well preseason!
I agree with most of you're post .I would suggest that Stokes played well bringing others into play . Other than scoring he was very decent
snooky
04-08-2016, 05:40 PM
A striker called Joe Gormley - did he used to be a miner?
Forget about him - he's the pits.
greenpaper55
04-08-2016, 05:49 PM
Forget about him - he's the pits.
He might team up well with Carlton Cole !
WoreTheGreen
04-08-2016, 05:53 PM
He might team up well with Carlton Cole !
Signed for Nittengrange
Hi Heid Yin
04-08-2016, 06:09 PM
Fluck all!
:hilarious:hilarious:hilarious
Mr White
04-08-2016, 07:27 PM
having watched Brondby at Easter Road, I can't say I was overly impressed with them. I think more than a few might be in for a shock once the season gets underway.
That'll be Brondby that are currently 3 -1 up at home to the team that finished 7th in the Bundesliga last season? In the stadium we beat them in over 120 minutes 2 weeks ago?
:hilarious
Big L
04-08-2016, 07:27 PM
A striker called Joe Gormley - did he used to be a miner?
Naw! He's 26 about 16 yrs older than you!
HibeeHutch
04-08-2016, 07:55 PM
Dare I say that perhaps it wasn't the players who lost the league / promotion last season but the strategy and tactics of the manager? Even though Stubbs achieved the unthinkable in winning the Cup there were many questions about his use of the squad, set up of the team, tactics against specific teams, failure to defend set pieces and (personally I think too much) focus and energy spent on the league cup.
Perhaps Lennon's management will be more robust and tactically nuanced; and result in a more consistent season and ultimately the title with the same set of players. Bear in mind we may also have some younger players who are re-energized by Lennon too.
greenpaper55
04-08-2016, 07:59 PM
Naw! He's 26 about 16 yrs older than you!
Oh dear !
GreenNWhiteArmy
04-08-2016, 08:02 PM
Dare I say that perhaps it wasn't the players who lost the league / promotion last season but the strategy and tactics of the manager? Even though Stubbs achieved the unthinkable in winning the Cup there were many questions about his use of the squad, set up of the team, tactics against specific teams, failure to defend set pieces and (personally I think too much) focus and energy spent on the league cup.
Perhaps Lennon's management will be more robust and tactically nuanced; and result in a more consistent season and ultimately the title with the same set of players. Bear in mind we may also have some younger players who are re-energized by Lennon too.
Agree with everything you've said mate.
Also Lennon is used to playing teams in Scotland who play to spoil the game and defend. He will have us playing at a much higher tempo this year. Something which cost us numerous times in the league the last couple of season
Dare I say that perhaps it wasn't the players who lost the league / promotion last season but the strategy and tactics of the manager? Even though Stubbs achieved the unthinkable in winning the Cup there were many questions about his use of the squad, set up of the team, tactics against specific teams, failure to defend set pieces and (personally I think too much) focus and energy spent on the league cup.
Perhaps Lennon's management will be more robust and tactically nuanced; and result in a more consistent season and ultimately the title with the same set of players. Bear in mind we may also have some younger players who are re-energized by Lennon too.
Yep, it was Stubbs who hit the bar from a yard out vs Raith, it was Stubbs who dived over a trundler vs Falkirk & it was Stubbs who failed to spot a Falkirk player walking out the penalty box with the ball tucked under his arm. I'm at a loss to understand why so many posters on here continue to denigrate Stubbs' tactics yet give him no credit for completely out manoeuvering Magic Hat in the greatest game in all our lifetimes!
West lower
04-08-2016, 08:32 PM
Yep, it was Stubbs who hit the bar from a yard out vs Raith, it was Stubbs who dived over a trundler vs Falkirk & it was Stubbs who failed to spot a Falkirk player walking out the penalty box with the ball tucked under his arm. I'm at a loss to understand why so many posters on here continue to denigrate Stubbs' tactics yet give him no credit for completely out manoeuvering Magic Hat in the greatest game in all our lifetimes!
I agree with what you say, but he did have this tactic of going defensive for the last 15 minutes of games that we were leading. Never did understand this tactic as it put us on the back foot and inevitably hanging on.
tamig
04-08-2016, 08:36 PM
Dare I say that perhaps it wasn't the players who lost the league / promotion last season but the strategy and tactics of the manager? Even though Stubbs achieved the unthinkable in winning the Cup there were many questions about his use of the squad, set up of the team, tactics against specific teams, failure to defend set pieces and (personally I think too much) focus and energy spent on the league cup.
Perhaps Lennon's management will be more robust and tactically nuanced; and result in a more consistent season and ultimately the title with the same set of players. Bear in mind we may also have some younger players who are re-energized by Lennon too.
I think a few of us have mentioned this on several other threads. Lennon will utilise this squad much better than Stubbs did and will change the shape of the team as it's needed. That squad could have gone up last season - the manager just struggled against teams who parked the bus.
tamig
04-08-2016, 08:40 PM
Yep, it was Stubbs who hit the bar from a yard out vs Raith, it was Stubbs who dived over a trundler vs Falkirk & it was Stubbs who failed to spot a Falkirk player walking out the penalty box with the ball tucked under his arm. I'm at a loss to understand why so many posters on here continue to denigrate Stubbs' tactics yet give him no credit for completely out manoeuvering Magic Hat in the greatest game in all our lifetimes!
Magic hat is a bit like Stubbs though in that he stubbornly sticks to his one dimensional tactics. Stubbsy got it spot on in the final but wouldn't change things against so called smaller teams when it was clear things just weren't happening for us.
tamig
04-08-2016, 08:44 PM
Naw! He's 26 about 16 yrs older than you!
Eh??
Magic hat is a bit like Stubbs though in that he stubbornly sticks to his one dimensional tactics. Stubbsy got it spot on in the final but wouldn't change things against so called smaller teams when it was clear things just weren't happening for us.
Not really true, just as an example against both St M & Dumbarton away he brought on Farid & went much more direct. Farid scored in both games but unfortunately we conceded daft goals & missed clear chances in both games. We conceded 3 away against Sons the previous season as well but as we scored 6 no one really cared. Unlike Warbs, Stubbs played various systems & formations throughout the season. They didn't all work but it's just not true to say he had one dimensional tactics.
tamig
04-08-2016, 08:58 PM
Not really true, just as an example against both St M & Dumbarton away he brought on Farid & went much more direct. Farid scored in both games but unfortunately we conceded daft goals & missed clear chances in both games. We conceded 3 away against Sons the previous season as well but as we scored 6 no one really cared. Unlike Warbs, Stubbs played various systems & formations throughout the season. They didn't all work but it's just not true to say he had one dimensional tactics.
The diamond was his preferred formation. He played 3 at the back in a few games with a fair bit of success - especially in his first season. Last season he tended to use a back 3 only when it was forced on him. Inverness at home in the cup springs to mind. I think he was pretty one dimensional tbh.
[QUOTE=tamig;4780710]The diamond was his preferred formation. He played 3 at the back in a few games with a fair bit of success - especially in his first season. Last season he tended to use a back 3 only when it was forced on him. Inverness at home in the cup springs to mind. I think he was pretty one dimensional tbh.[/QUOT
You don't include the Cup Final then or was that forced on him also?
tamig
04-08-2016, 09:38 PM
[QUOTE=tamig;4780710]The diamond was his preferred formation. He played 3 at the back in a few games with a fair bit of success - especially in his first season. Last season he tended to use a back 3 only when it was forced on him. Inverness at home in the cup springs to mind. I think he was pretty one dimensional tbh.[/QUOT
You don't include the Cup Final then or was that forced on him also?
No he came up trumps in the cup final by putting Stokes on Tavernier. A masterstroke that worked out brilliantly on the day for us. And his subs were perfect that day too - unlike on many other occasions in the latter part of the league campaign. I'm not saying he was duff, I just reckon Lennon will mix it up a bit more and we'll see him using a few different formations on a more regular basis.
monktonharp
04-08-2016, 09:40 PM
I agree with what you say, but he did have this tactic of going defensive for the last 15 minutes of games that we were leading. Never did understand this tactic as it put us on the back foot and inevitably hanging on.It does need mentioned that his tactics in the 0-3 game v G.Morton were not the reason we lost were they? we unbelievably saw a 6 match period where the team crumbled, through tiredness with some I suppose but quite a few unforced errors by individuals.
The Green Goblin
04-08-2016, 10:02 PM
It looks like nobody is worried at all regards the season ahead or is it that the ones that are just cant be arsed with the happy clappers shooting them down I wonder.
Oh well, everyone has opinions! We'll just need to wait and see what the season brings. 😁
I am looking forward to the season ahead, as I always do. I would also like to see a couple more signings, maybe Henderson plus a striker, but as I replied to you previously, it is August 4th and we have until August 31st to sign more players. The season may start in two days, but it ends in May 2017, and it's a marathon not a sprint, so forgive me for not losing my nerve here before a ball is kicked, like you seem to have done, and having a bit of faith in the new manager (based on the already impressive signs from the European and pre-season games) and the players in the squad, many of them the same players who had the nerve and guts to deliver the single greatest result in our club's entire history, just over two months ago.
Dunbar Hibee
04-08-2016, 10:39 PM
I hear the Irish striker Joe Gormley is training at EM scored 85 goals in 133 games for Cliftonville. Signed for Peterborough last year and immediately had a cruciate.
Apparently off to County on loan?
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 01:54 PM
There is expressing your opinion and posting rubbish to get a reaction, certainly looks like the latter
It's quite clear you hold no respect for other people's opinions. How the hell would you know that I'm trying to get a reaction? You don't know me, so stop talking guff and maybe try and give your opinion as to why you think I'm so wrong to have these thoughts, instead of being a complete dick by telling me to post elsewhere!
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 02:02 PM
I am looking forward to the season ahead, as I always do. I would also like to see a couple more signings, maybe Henderson plus a striker, but as I replied to you previously, it is August 4th and we have until August 31st to sign more players. The season may start in two days, but it ends in May 2017, and it's a marathon not a sprint, so forgive me for not losing my nerve here before a ball is kicked, like you seem to have done, and having a bit of faith in the new manager (based on the already impressive signs from the European and pre-season games) and the players in the squad, many of them the same players who had the nerve and guts to deliver the single greatest result in our club's entire history, just over two months ago.
I applaud your reply mate. You get your point across without being obnoxious or nasty! Well played.
I haven't lost my nerve, I would have liked to have seen us do our business much earlier. We can't afford any excuses this year. If we're not bang at it from day one and we find ourselves in a two or three horse race, we could look back to the start of the campaign with regrets! That's something I don't want to see.
If we go by what the majority are saying then we'll have no fears and that'll be great!
Some of the abuse I've taken for stating my opinions is frankly unacceptable but I won't let those key board warriors scare me off from stating my opinions.
Some folk really need to take a long hard look at themselves 🙄
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 02:06 PM
Pity the guy is getting such a hard time for expressing his opinion.
I'm looking for a reaction apparently 🙄
It seems that the guys giving me a hard time are the ones looking for the reaction. 😁
Smartie
05-08-2016, 02:07 PM
I applaud your reply mate. You get your point across without being obnoxious or nasty! Well played.
I haven't lost my nerve, I would have liked to have seen us do our business much earlier. We can't afford any excuses this year. If we're not bang at it from day one and we find ourselves in a two or three horse race, we could look back to the start of the campaign with regrets! That's something I don't want to see.
If we go by what the majority are saying then we'll have no fears and that'll be great!
Some of the abuse I've taken for stating my opinions is frankly unacceptable but I won't let those key board warriors scare me off from stating my opinions.
Some folk really need to take a long hard look at themselves 🙄
What do you think we still need?
FWIW I'm firmly in the happy clapper, we have enough camp. If an opportunity came along to sign the right player and we had budget available then obviously I'd take it but I'm honestly happy with what we've got. I disagree with your viewpoint but I think people have been way to quick to jump on someone just for having a different opinion.
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 02:17 PM
Well you have no fear of being ridiculed that is obvious, think you enjoy the attention :doh:
How would you know what I enjoy? You don't know me! lol
Your right though, I have no fear at all of being ridiculed. I have an opinion, it's you and some of the other intolerant folk on here that need to learn how to deal with others opinions without being silly about it.
Gordy M
05-08-2016, 02:25 PM
I'm looking for a reaction apparently 🙄
It seems that the guys giving me a hard time are the ones looking for the reaction. 😁
Im sorry but when you come out with comments such as lennon spent too much time doing commentary at the euros and hibs were penny pinching as usual??? What did you expect?
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 02:34 PM
What do you think we still need?
FWIW I'm firmly in the happy clapper, we have enough camp. If an opportunity came along to sign the right player and we had budget available then obviously I'd take it but I'm honestly happy with what we've got. I disagree with your viewpoint but I think people have been way to quick to jump on someone just for having a different opinion.
Fair play, I respect that you disagree with me and are happy with what we already have.
My thoughts are that I'd like to see us bring in an attacking winger. Someone with plenty of pace and trickery that can maybe come off the bench last twenty to replace Lewis if we find ourselves in need of some creativity or chance creation. I think we could do with a bit of experience in the midfield ( Commons maybe? ) and another big tall good in the air striker.
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 02:42 PM
Im sorry but when you come out with comments such as lennon spent too much time doing commentary at the euros and hibs were penny pinching as usual??? What did you expect?
Lennon did spend too much time at the Euros for my liking. I'd have preferred he got on with the job in hand asap. Why would that opinion upset anyone ??
Hibs penny pinching........well let's just say we're renowned for it. It doesn't just mean wages or fees, it can be length of contracts. We've lost out on countless players in the past because of this.
So there you go, I've explained my reasons for the opinions I have. I ask you what the hell gives people the right to denigrate my character for my beliefs? Disagree with me, argue with me but don't call my loyalty to the club into question or tell me to away post elsewhere! Absolutely no need whatsoever!
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 02:48 PM
Away and blether somewhere else
Why would you want me to that? Could it be that you disagree with me on a football forum that fans give their opinions on and because you can't be arsed making an argument or maybe it's just that you don't have the wit,you give a retort that makes you sound like a five year old kid?
Grow up, grow a pair of balls and give me an argument if you don't agree with me. I know that would mean actually engaging your brain but I'm sure your capable if you put your mind to it 😜👍
Gordy M
05-08-2016, 03:09 PM
Lennon did spend too much time at the Euros for my liking. I'd have preferred he got on with the job in hand asap. Why would that opinion upset anyone ??
Hibs penny pinching........well let's just say we're renowned for it. It doesn't just mean wages or fees, it can be length of contracts. We've lost out on countless players in the past because of this.
So there you go, I've explained my reasons for the opinions I have. I ask you what the hell gives people the right to denigrate my character for my beliefs? Disagree with me, argue with me but don't call my loyalty to the club into question or tell me to away post elsewhere! Absolutely no need whatsoever!
Because thats what happens online whether you like it or not. If you come out with statemnts against the club, manager players etc then you will be called to task? Im sure ur aware of that. I cant see anyone who has abused you or been offensive.
Onto your points. We have had the best pre season we have had for a few years and bar the penalty miss by JM then we would have been in the next round of the uefa.
John Mcginn brings me onto my nwxt point bearing in mind we paid a large fee(for scotland) to get him...can you point me to the signings we missed because of penny pinching. Im sure we have spent a good amount on players in the last 5 years.
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 03:19 PM
Because thats what happens online whether you like it or not. If you come out with statemnts against the club, manager players etc then you will be called to task? Im sure ur aware of that. I cant see anyone who has abused you or been offensive.
Onto your points. We have had the best pre season we have had for a few years and bar the penalty miss by JM then we would have been in the next round of the uefa.
John Mcginn brings me onto my nwxt point bearing in mind we paid a large fee(for scotland) to get him...can you point me to the signings we missed because of penny pinching. Im sure we have spent a good amount on players in the last 5 years.
You've obviously no looked very hard regards posters giving me abuse or telling me to go post elsewhere. You really must try harder!
Regards missing out on players......I don't know the actual number for obvious reasons but I will give you an example!
Adam Rooney! We offered the same wage as Aberdeen, only we wanted him to sign a one year deal. The rest is history!
Borderhibbie76
05-08-2016, 03:19 PM
Lennon did spend too much time at the Euros for my liking. I'd have preferred he got on with the job in hand asap. Why would that opinion upset anyone ??
Hibs penny pinching........well let's just say we're renowned for it. It doesn't just mean wages or fees, it can be length of contracts. We've lost out on countless players in the past because of this.
So there you go, I've explained my reasons for the opinions I have. I ask you what the hell gives people the right to denigrate my character for my beliefs? Disagree with me, argue with me but don't call my loyalty to the club into question or tell me to away post elsewhere! Absolutely no need whatsoever!
Still think we are penny pinching?? Just rejected a bid worth £1.7 million for Cummings today??
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HoboHarry
05-08-2016, 03:26 PM
You've obviously no looked very hard regards posters giving me abuse or telling me to go post elsewhere. You really must try harder!
Regards missing out on players......I don't know the actual number for obvious reasons but I will give you an example!
Adam Rooney! We offered the same wage as Aberdeen, only we wanted him to sign a one year deal. The rest is history!
Adam Rooney? Yes lets go back to the Terry Butcher time to make a point. That's the spirit.......
Gordy M
05-08-2016, 03:30 PM
You've obviously no looked very hard regards posters giving me abuse or telling me to go post elsewhere. You really must try harder!
Regards missing out on players......I don't know the actual number for obvious reasons but I will give you an example!
Adam Rooney! We offered the same wage as Aberdeen, only we wanted him to sign a one year deal. The rest is history!
i dont need to try anything thanks very much....but if one person telling you to post somewhere else because you slagged of the team and manager offends you so much then you really are very naiive.
Anyway....so you will agree that lennon being at the euros hasnt affected our pre-season, performance wise? And u have given one example of apparent penny pinching in the last 5 years.....when we actualy offered the same money but just a shorter contract.....well done...uv really proved that point!
Ozyhibby
05-08-2016, 03:36 PM
No sign of any signings then?
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HoboHarry
05-08-2016, 03:39 PM
No sign of any signings then?
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Call LD and ask her......
hibbysam
05-08-2016, 03:44 PM
No sign of any signings then?
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Mr negative is back! Why not try and get behind the team, and realise that the Brondby result last night goes along way to proving how good a side we actually have. Considering we have strengthened the goalkeeping area since then and are still actively looking to bring in LH I don't think our work has been too bad!
Ozyhibby
05-08-2016, 03:50 PM
Mr negative is back! Why not try and get behind the team, and realise that the Brondby result last night goes along way to proving how good a side we actually have. Considering we have strengthened the goalkeeping area since then and are still actively looking to bring in LH I don't think our work has been too bad!
Never been away?
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Mikey
05-08-2016, 03:51 PM
Never been away?
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Sadly.
hibs0666
05-08-2016, 03:52 PM
Never been away?
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Been in a coma the last few days?
Allant1981
05-08-2016, 03:53 PM
It's quite clear you hold no respect for other people's opinions. How the hell would you know that I'm trying to get a reaction? You don't know me, so stop talking guff and maybe try and give your opinion as to why you think I'm so wrong to have these thoughts, instead of being a complete dick by telling me to post elsewhere!
I do have respect for peoples opinions, just not people who are talking rubbish like yourself, and at no point have i swore at you in any post so please refrain from doing so, or is that the range of your vocabulary
Allant1981
05-08-2016, 03:58 PM
Why would you want me to that? Could it be that you disagree with me on a football forum that fans give their opinions on and because you can't be arsed making an argument or maybe it's just that you don't have the wit,you give a retort that makes you sound like a five year old kid?
Grow up, grow a pair of balls and give me an argument if you don't agree with me. I know that would mean actually engaging your brain but I'm sure your capable if you put your mind to it 😜👍
Why would i want an argument? You said that the manager spent to much time at the euros, he spent a few days there, do they not have phones or internet in france? You stated the club are penny pinching, do you know this for sure? Do you have written proof we have penny pinched in the past? Probably not but you will write it here anyway so you can have a go at the club, so yes away you go and blether somewhere else
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 04:01 PM
I do have respect for peoples opinions, just not people who are talking rubbish like yourself, and at no point have i swore at you in any post so please refrain from doing so, or is that the range of your vocabulary
For someone who basically told me to eff orf and post elsewhere you've got a right cheek! Be gone with you clown!
Allant1981
05-08-2016, 04:08 PM
For someone who basically told me to eff orf and post elsewhere you've got a right cheek! Be gone with you clown!
You still talking rubbish
stokesmessiah
05-08-2016, 04:18 PM
Well this is all very grown up and mature!
The Leith Dutch
05-08-2016, 04:39 PM
Lennon did spend too much time at the Euros for my liking. I'd have preferred he got on with the job in hand asap. Why would that opinion upset anyone ??
Surely if Chelsea were happy enough for their new manager to be in France almost as long it's unlikely to be a big issue for Lennon?
Can't see how the club can be classed as penny pinching when we've just knocked back 7 figures for a player. We get the right players in when they become available.
Can't wait for tomorrow
Skyegreen
05-08-2016, 05:06 PM
Surely if Chelsea were happy enough for their new manager to be in France almost as long it's unlikely to be a big issue for Lennon?
I'd have thought he'd have had a clause written into any tv contract but just shoot me now for wanting our new manager to get back here an give his full concentration on strengthening Hibs! 🙄
Ozyhibby
05-08-2016, 05:09 PM
Sadly.
[emoji22] Very upsetting.
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geohibby
05-08-2016, 05:10 PM
Jason cummings has had a bid knocked back from the board
cabbageandribs1875
05-08-2016, 05:18 PM
Jason cummings has had a bid knocked back from the board
how much was cummings bidding for the board
:)
Finn2015
05-08-2016, 05:41 PM
how much was cummings bidding for the board
:)
He's being paid to much 🤔
blackpoolhibs
05-08-2016, 05:46 PM
I'd have thought he'd have had a clause written into any tv contract but just shoot me now for wanting our new manager to get back here an give his full concentration on strengthening Hibs! 🙄
Bang bang.
147lothian
05-08-2016, 06:23 PM
Surely if Chelsea were happy enough for their new manager to be in France almost as long it's unlikely to be a big issue for Lennon?
Your right IMO it shouldn't be a big issue for Lennon, the Euro's was viewed by millions around the world, to have the manager of Hibernian there gives the club massive exposure, no bad thing IMO, to have our manager sitting by a phone and computer here or at the euro's I know which one think is in the best interest of the club
Joe6-2
05-08-2016, 08:21 PM
Well this is all very grown up and mature!
This!
Wee Effen Bee
05-08-2016, 09:54 PM
This!
Oh come on. The poster was making statements which a number of other posters took issue with. I remember the whole, 'the net is just a discussion in a pub' argument and wonder how far we have really come since the 90s. Poster A makes random statements (which is his/her prerogative :greengrin) Posters B, C, D... outline several arguments as to why they believe s/he is wrong. Poster A retaliates with other points but doesn't answer some of the rebuttles made. Other posters come in and feel sorry for the puir wee soul taking a tanking in the debate. He comes back in saying, "... a Ken it's no fair!'
It's like one of the Joker memes doing the rounds.
I went back over the last few pages of the thread and the 'worst' I read was someone telling him to take his blethering elsewhere. In fact, the first actual term of abuse directly aimed at someone was the said poster calling someone else a dick! Oh how sensitive we have become. It's a public forum for Christ sake. If you post on the forum, expect a response. If you offer arguments but are unable to back them up with any evidence whatsoever, then expect some passionate debate.
I hate this bedwetters v happy clappers scenario as well as it suggests you will always be stuck on one side and your points are not based on any reasoned arguments. I must be deemed as being in the HC club as I am very happy with how the club is being run at the moment and with how well the coaches are enabling the team to produce a performance on the park. I am not worried in the slightest that only a couple of players have been signed so far - not because I take everything for granted and don't question things, but because I have seen how well we have performed in pre-season and in Europe and witnessed a strong mentality/togetherness in the squad. Also, the club has backed the last 4 or 5 managers with funds and I don't believe Lennon would have come to us if he hadn't been assured he would be supported when necessary.:cb
K-Zazu
05-08-2016, 09:59 PM
Past managers like calderwood, butcher, Fenlon brought in some utter dross. Basically panic buying bringing in players that were mediocre on 2/3 year deals. Neil Lennon isny daft he's no gonna sign a player just for the sake of it. There's still another 3 or so weeks left I think we will sign 3 more with 1 leaving. My guess would be Henderson pawlett graham. Stanton out
Gerard
05-08-2016, 10:09 PM
I think that Lennon will sign quality players in this TW.:wink:
theonlywayisup
06-08-2016, 06:21 AM
Win today and everythings ok, no rush to get players in. Let's aim for quality.
Lose today and the world has ended, it's Lennon's, the Board etc fault for not getting anyone better in.
Whatever happens, today's game will not determine whether we get promoted or not. Let's get behind what we've got and win this league.
:flag::flag::flag:
Skyegreen
06-08-2016, 06:55 AM
Oh come on. The poster was making statements which a number of other posters took issue with. I remember the whole, 'the net is just a discussion in a pub' argument and wonder how far we have really come since the 90s. Poster A makes random statements (which is his/her prerogative :greengrin) Posters B, C, D... outline several arguments as to why they believe s/he is wrong. Poster A retaliates with other points but doesn't answer some of the rebuttles made. Other posters come in and feel sorry for the puir wee soul taking a tanking in the debate. He comes back in saying, "... a Ken it's no fair!'
It's like one of the Joker memes doing the rounds.
I went back over the last few pages of the thread and the 'worst' I read was someone telling him to take his blethering elsewhere. In fact, the first actual term of abuse directly aimed at someone was the said poster calling someone else a dick! Oh how sensitive we have become. It's a public forum for Christ sake. If you post on the forum, expect a response. If you offer arguments but are unable to back them up with any evidence whatsoever, then expect some passionate debate.
I hate this bedwetters v happy clappers scenario as well as it suggests you will always be stuck on one side and your points are not based on any reasoned arguments. I must be deemed as being in the HC club as I am very happy with how the club is being run at the moment and with how well the coaches are enabling the team to produce a performance on the park. I am not worried in the slightest that only a couple of players have been signed so far - not because I take everything for granted and don't question things, but because I have seen how well we have performed in pre-season and in Europe and witnessed a strong mentality/togetherness in the squad. Also, the club has backed the last 4 or 5 managers with funds and I don't believe Lennon would have come to us if he hadn't been assured he would be supported when necessary.:cb
Your very boring 💤💤💤 Away and talk ***** elsewhere 😁
Wee Effen Bee
06-08-2016, 09:03 AM
Your very boring 💤💤💤 Away and talk ***** elsewhere 😁
:greengrinExcellent response. Change 'your' to 'you're' and I will take your directive into consideration...for a nano second then dismiss it with the contempt it deserves.:na na:
BSEJVT
06-08-2016, 09:13 AM
Your very boring 💤💤💤 Away and talk ***** elsewhere 😁
Whilst I initially had some support for your position, you are making it very hard to respect either it or you now.
Folk disagreed with you, get over it.
Even if they did so in a tone you didn't like, the minute you resort to their level or as you have done lower, you have lost both the argument and the moral high ground.
greenlex
06-08-2016, 09:15 AM
I think that Lennon will sign quality players in this TW.:wink:
He already has. Holt Hanlon Cummings and an international keeper.
All first team starters. One more and we've tied up nearly half a team !!!!
Nicho87
06-08-2016, 09:32 AM
Henderson and a younger grant holt type and i think the squad is looking good. Lennon said himself from day one the squad is good, no major surgery required.
StevieCowan
06-08-2016, 09:33 AM
Now that Sinclair has signed for Celtic I think we'll see Henderson leaving them next week.
Spike Mandela
06-08-2016, 09:38 AM
He already has. Holt Hanlon Cummings and an international keeper.
All first team starters. One more and we've tied up nearly half a team !!!!
Always love when we get to the level of claiming players who have signed a new contract to extend their stay as 'new' signings.:greengrin
I am sure there will be many comings and goings before the window shuts. However, if I'm honest, if someone had said to me after euphoria of cup final that we would start our league campaign and the only 'new' signings would be a keeper, without clearance to play, a back up keeper and a 35yr old striker I would have laughed and said "aye, that'll be ****ing right"
Funny how things work out.:cb
Greenworld
06-08-2016, 09:40 AM
I still expect at least 2 more likely 3 signings
Our midfield is light because of injuries Mcgeoch and Fyvie the first seemingly injury prone.
Another attacker as well and then we are set .
The lad from St mirren would a great addition but a couple of older heads would be good.
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Tobias Funke
06-08-2016, 09:44 AM
:greengrinExcellent response. Change 'your' to 'you're' and I will take your directive into consideration...for a nano second then dismiss it with the contempt it deserves.:na na:
The response it deserved! Love it!:greengrin
Smartie
06-08-2016, 09:59 AM
Always love when we get to the level of claiming players who have signed a new contract to extend their stay as 'new' signings.:greengrin
I am sure there will be many comings and goings before the window shuts. However, if I'm honest, if someone had said to me after euphoria of cup final that we would start our league campaign and the only 'new' signings would be a keeper, without clearance to play, a back up keeper and a 35yr old striker I would have laughed and said "aye, that'll be ****ing right"
Funny how things work out.:cb
Although if you offered me that as opposed to losing Hanlon and Cummings and having 2 shiny new mystery signings I'd have bitten your hand off to keep the players.
Yes, the cup win was great, it has raised our profile and we have a renewed spring in our steps. But the bottom line is that we're kicking the new season off in the Championship and those 2 players would have taken one helluva replacing.
Priority number one was keeping the side together and we've done a great job of doing that.
greenlex
06-08-2016, 10:05 AM
Always love when we get to the level of claiming players who have signed a new contract to extend their stay as 'new' signings.:greengrin
I am sure there will be many comings and goings before the window shuts. However, if I'm honest, if someone had said to me after euphoria of cup final that we would start our league campaign and the only 'new' signings would be a keeper, without clearance to play, a back up keeper and a 35yr old striker I would have laughed and said "aye, that'll be ****ing right"
Funny how things work out.:cb
Two of our best talents re signed on long term contracts. We could have just as easily lost them. A on experienced prover goal scorer that's scored the highest level. An international keeper. Funny how different folks look at things in different ways eh?
Hiber-nation
06-08-2016, 10:19 AM
Your very boring 💤💤💤 Away and talk ***** elsewhere 😁
You must be desperate for us to lose today.
Spike Mandela
06-08-2016, 10:21 AM
Two of our best talents re signed on long term contracts. We could have just as easily lost them. A on experienced prover goal scorer that's scored the highest level. An international keeper. Funny how different folks look at things in different ways eh?
Agree with everything you are saying about Cummings and Hanlon really greenlex. Whilst their signings are crucial to our ambitions they're not really 'new' signings if you know what I mean. Irony is we could still lose one of them if the price is right.
I am a wee bit disappointed with our minimal transfer dealings so far but accept others may be right in that we don't need much. Todays's game might tell us a lot.
Hamish
08-08-2016, 11:21 AM
Danijel Pranjic a left back who was at Panathiniakos is training with us according to Hibs rumours (yes I know) page.
Stevie Reid
08-08-2016, 11:24 AM
Danijel Pranjic a left back who was at Panathiniakos is training with us according to Hibs rumours (yes I know) page.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danijel_Pranji%C4%87
34, and has 58 caps for Croatia. Quite a wee dude as well.
yerauldda
08-08-2016, 11:26 AM
Danijel Pranjic a left back who was at Panathiniakos is training with us according to Hibs rumours (yes I know) page.
why do people make up blatant lies like that.. would never ever happen
why do people make up blatant lies like that.. would never ever happen
How is it lies?? Do you know any different??
Fergus52
08-08-2016, 11:35 AM
How is it lies?? Do you know any different??
Even at 34 I'm sure he could get a much better wage than we could offer in a higher standard of league, closer to home.
jgl07
08-08-2016, 11:36 AM
I applaud your reply mate. You get your point across without being obnoxious or nasty! Well played.
I haven't lost my nerve, I would have liked to have seen us do our business much earlier. We can't afford any excuses this year. If we're not bang at it from day one and we find ourselves in a two or three horse race, we could look back to the start of the campaign with regrets! That's something I don't want to see.
If we go by what the majority are saying then we'll have no fears and that'll be great!
Some of the abuse I've taken for stating my opinions is frankly unacceptable but I won't let those key board warriors scare me off from stating my opinions.
🙄
Easy to deal with that. Stop posting negative crap.
People might even think you are a Yam on the wind-up.
JimBHibees
08-08-2016, 11:38 AM
Pranjic was a cracking player in his prime remember him from Bayern and Croatia games. Seems unlikely.
bingo70
08-08-2016, 11:50 AM
How is it lies?? Do you know any different??
If it's on that rumours website (assuming it's the website and not the Facebook page) it's made up nonsense.
I think people post on there who they sign in football manager.
If it's on that rumours website (assuming it's the website and not the Facebook page) it's made up nonsense. I think people post on there who they sign in football manager.
Cheers Bingo!
Andy74
08-08-2016, 12:24 PM
Danijel Pranjic a left back who was at Panathiniakos is training with us according to Hibs rumours (yes I know) page.
I'd find it unlikely he would be training with us.
If he got near any of our premises I would hope he'd be bound, gagged and his signature forced onto a contract.
nellio
08-08-2016, 12:24 PM
Cheers Bingo!
I signed Big Marvin Bartley on FM (only CM with 15 tackling I could find!) and a few weeks later we signed him! :greengrin
SteveHFC
08-08-2016, 01:30 PM
Pranjic was a cracking player in his prime remember him from Bayern and Croatia games. Seems unlikely.
There's more chance of Hibs resigning Edwin De Graaf than that happening.
Baw187
08-08-2016, 01:31 PM
It's no more outlandish than us signing ex CL winner, Frank Sauzee in the twilight of his career.
Still doubt it but it's far from being implausible.
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lucky
08-08-2016, 01:41 PM
Anier has been release by United. He seem ok at Hibs and would be a decent back up for Holt
SRHibs
08-08-2016, 01:43 PM
Supposing it's true for a second (I know it's not, but still), we'd surely have to make him the highest paid player at the club, by far. It wouldn't really be worth it, as I think we are perfectly capable of winning the league with the standard of player we have. No need to break the wage structure to sign a player who will be past it by the time we get back into the SPL.
GreenCastle
08-08-2016, 01:49 PM
Anier..flat in Edinburgh..coming back to Hibs ?
Callum_62
08-08-2016, 01:57 PM
Lennon did say we need cover for Holt...
hhibs
08-08-2016, 01:59 PM
Anier..flat in Edinburgh..coming back to Hibs ?
I seem to remember there was talk at the time of his return to Utd that he was destined to return to us and that he was keen to do so.
Injured for much of his time here but did show some good stuff even if only for a few games.
However new management team at Easter Road may not be so keen.
Hibee Mac
08-08-2016, 02:03 PM
Anier would be a suitable backup imo. He played a part in two late goals as a sub in December if I remember correctly.
GreenCastle
08-08-2016, 02:05 PM
I seem to remember there was talk at the time of his return to Utd that he was destined to return to us and that he was keen to do so.
Injured for much of his time here but did show some good stuff even if only for a few games.
However new management team at Easter Road may not be so keen.
Just spoke with someone at Utd and believes it is happening. Let's wait and see if the info is correct.
SouthMoroccoStu
08-08-2016, 02:06 PM
Anier has been release by United. He seem ok at Hibs and would be a decent back up for Holt
Very surprised Anier's been released by them
He's exactly the type of player they'll need
offshorehibby
08-08-2016, 02:14 PM
Very surprised Anier's been released by them
He's exactly the type of player they'll need
Slightly surprised as well, i thought he managed to score a couple after he went back last season and sure he has scored a couple this season as well. Think i'd give him a chance as back up for Holt.
Stevie Reid
08-08-2016, 02:20 PM
I'd take Anier back. Says here that he's been speaking to clubs in Norway and Holland: -
https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/henri-anier-leaves-dundee-united/
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 02:26 PM
Slightly surprised as well, i thought he managed to score a couple after he went back last season and sure he has scored a couple this season as well. Think i'd give him a chance as back up for Holt.
I was hoping we would bring in better than Holt and not as back up to him.
Ozyhibby
08-08-2016, 02:41 PM
I was hoping we would bring in better than Holt and not as back up to him.
Me too. The fans have put a lot of extra cash into the club and I was hoping to see them use it to sign a top player.
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MWHIBBIES
08-08-2016, 02:44 PM
Me too. The fans have put a lot of extra cash into the club and I was hoping to see them use it to sign a top player.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI want it used to sign the players the manager wants.
Smartie
08-08-2016, 02:48 PM
Me too. The fans have put a lot of extra cash into the club and I was hoping to see them use it to sign a top player.
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So far we've got -
An International goalkeeper.
A striker with extensive EPL experience.
A goalkeeper whose pedigree might not appear the best but whose appearances so far have been at the very least acceptable.
Then we've managed to re-sign two of our own (and imo the country's) best young talents.
All against a backdrop of an impressive pre-season and a very solid opening day away win to one of our closest rivals.
I'm really not that unhappy with the business we've done.
I think there's maybe a danger that Stubbs has increased the expectation in terms of who we can attract to the club. We're unfortunately still a Championship club and I don't think we're the draw that many on here believe us to be. And it isn't always just about who pays the most money.
Dalianwanda
08-08-2016, 02:49 PM
Me too. The fans have put a lot of extra cash into the club and I was hoping to see them use it to sign a top player.
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Yeah but theres having the cash & theres finding a top player that is willing to play in the Scottish 2nd tier...
Yeah but theres having the cash & theres finding a top player that is willing to play in the Scottish 2nd tier...
Footballers would play in the back green if you paid them enough. Remember Claudio Caniggia etc at Dundee. Jeez, some are even prepared to play at Asbestos Athletic! :wink:
JDHibs
08-08-2016, 02:56 PM
Better than Holt? Do people understand our current position in the Scottish Championship?
The guys scored goals in every league in England including double figures in the Premiership in the past for a team in the bottom half of the league. The guys in good shape as shown in the Brondby game where he was still going after 120mins, then slotted in a great penalty and Falkirk where he was the one in the corners holding the ball up. He was also involved in every good attacking move from us on Saturday, including both goals.
We wont get better than him.
Ive seen 2 journos both say they have heard of no interest from Hibs regarding Anier, think people are just putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5. I wouldnt be unhappy with this signing, very capable back up for Holt and looked good when he got fit at us last year.
Brightside
08-08-2016, 02:58 PM
Better than Holt? Do people understand our current position in the Scottish Championship?
The guys scored goals in every league in England including double figures in the Premiership in the past for a team in the bottom half of the league. The guys in good shape as shown in the Brondby game where he was still going after 120mins, then slotted in a great penalty and Falkirk where he was the one in the corners holding the ball up. He was also involved in every good attacking move from us on Saturday, including both goals.
We wont get better than him.
Ive seen 2 journos both say they have heard of no interest from Hibs regarding Anier, think people are just putting 2 & 2 together and getting 5. I wouldnt be unhappy with this signing, very capable back up for Holt and looked good when he got fit at us last year.
I also don't understand the Holt chat. He has looked top class in the games he has played so far.
Me too. The fans have put a lot of extra cash into the club and I was hoping to see them use it to sign a top player.
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I have a feeling Scoops was posting tongue firmly in cheek.
Ozyhibby
08-08-2016, 03:23 PM
I also don't understand the Holt chat. He has looked top class in the games he has played so far.
I'm not criticising him, he's looked very decent so far. I also think it's not impossible that we could sign someone who keeps him out the team.
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TheGreenMan
08-08-2016, 03:27 PM
I also don't understand the Holt chat. He has looked top class in the games he has played so far.
Thought he looked slightly off the pace on Saturday but still had a positive impact making a nuisance of himself and getting an assist but agree looks so far a clever player and will be a clever signing for a year. Gives us that plan B when needEd to play for 2nd balls.
lucky
08-08-2016, 03:31 PM
I'd be delighted if Hibs signed better than Holt but I just can't see it. Top players want top dollar. The days of us spending thousands per week on a players salary are long gone. We are playing in the Scottish Championship and not many players want to come to Scotland never mind playing in our second tier
monktonharp
08-08-2016, 03:40 PM
I'd be delighted if Hibs signed better than Holt but I just can't see it. Top players want top dollar. The days of us spending thousands per week on a players salary are long gone. We are playing in the Scottish Championship and not many players want to come to Scotland never mind playing in our second tieryup , it's simple. Hibs wage v Peterboro wage = no brainer unless you are commited to a 4 year contract and your club wants to keep you.
GreenNWhiteArmy
08-08-2016, 03:41 PM
We already have 3 strikers that will score about 50 goals for us this season between - why do we need someone "better" than what we've got? we have at the moment 1 outstanding talented young striker, 1 experienced pro who not so long ago was the top English scorer in the top division in England and a player that imo is probs a lower premiership quality striker in Keatings. A Brian Graham/Anier type striker would give us an extra option with money to spend for elsewhere.
Lets focus on getting up with most of the squad we have and leave any "big signings" for when we return next season. one of the first signings i'd make in the new year would be to give Mcginn a new 4 year deal and a wage rise
BSEJVT
08-08-2016, 04:06 PM
I was hoping we would bring in better than Holt and not as back up to him.
I don't think Holt would come here to play second fiddle at this late stage of his career, I would guess he would be expecting to play?
From what I have seen of him so far, I like him.
So much better than some of his aging forward predecessors.
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 04:21 PM
I also don't understand the Holt chat. He has looked top class in the games he has played so far.
He won't play all season at his age, I would like someone as good as him at least.
I think Hibs have an amount to spend and I would go for a striker now that we have an experienced goalie.
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 04:23 PM
I don't think Holt would come here to play second fiddle at this late stage of his career, I would guess he would be expecting to play?
From what I have seen of him so far, I like him.
So much better than some of his aging forward predecessors.
I like him too, but if I had the choice of equivalent / better or back up then I know what I would pick.
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 04:25 PM
We already have 3 strikers that will score about 50 goals for us this season between - why do we need someone "better" than what we've got? we have at the moment 1 outstanding talented young striker, 1 experienced pro who not so long ago was the top English scorer in the top division in England and a player that imo is probs a lower premiership quality striker in Keatings. A Brian Graham/Anier type striker would give us an extra option with money to spend for elsewhere.
Lets focus on getting up with most of the squad we have and leave any "big signings" for when we return next season. one of the first signings i'd make in the new year would be to give Mcginn a new 4 year deal and a wage rise
You don't know that, nobody does.
GreenNWhiteArmy
08-08-2016, 04:34 PM
You don't know that, nobody does.
Cmon mate you're being a bit pedantic here by that logic we can't speculate on how a player would do for us until we've seen them actually playing? How do we know how Henderson would do if he returned because his loan was under a different manager with a different style.
But I'll rephrase it.... providing they don't get injured, I'd expect our front 3 to get 50 goals between them
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 04:39 PM
Cmon mate you're being a bit pedantic here by that logic we can't speculate on how a player would do for us until we've seen them actually playing? How do we know how Henderson would do if he returned because his loan was under a different manager with a different style.
But I'll rephrase it.... providing they don't get injured, I'd expect our front 3 to get 50 goals between them
I hope you're right.
greenlex
08-08-2016, 04:41 PM
Cmon mate you're being a bit pedantic here by that logic we can't speculate on how a player would do for us until we've seen them actually playing? How do we know how Henderson would do if he returned because his loan was under a different manager with a different style.
But I'll rephrase it.... providing they don't get injured, I'd expect our front 3 to get 50 goals between them
How's about 4 strikes to get 60 goals between them?
Saint Hibee
08-08-2016, 04:42 PM
Sorry if I missed this, but whatever happened to our attempt to resign Henderson? Noticed he wasn't on the bench for them yesterday.
GreenNWhiteArmy
08-08-2016, 04:45 PM
How's about 4 strikes to get 60 goals between them?
Even better - I still believe we need another striker as back up but that was my point we don't need to break the bank 5o sign a striker considering what we have for the division we are in
Edinburgh Green
08-08-2016, 04:48 PM
Sorry if I missed this, but whatever happened to our attempt to resign Henderson? Noticed he wasn't on the bench for them yesterday.
Done deal over a month ago. Apparently?
BSEJVT
08-08-2016, 05:06 PM
I like him too, but if I had the choice of equivalent / better or back up then I know what I would pick.
I respect your opinion on such matters Scoopyboy so am interested in your view.
On that basis you obviously think that if the budget stretches to a "marquee" signing that's where it should be?
Whilst I agree we need another striker(s) I like what we have and would settle for back up given the likely constraints of the budget
I personally think that that "marquee" money would be better spent on one or more of pace, width and creativity, where I think we are weaker.
Interested in your reply
Iggy Pope
08-08-2016, 05:14 PM
He won't play all season at his age, I would like someone as good as him at least.
I think Hibs have an amount to spend and I would go for a striker now that we have an experienced goalie.
Lennon could have been spraffing on Saturday but it certainly sounded like getting a striker was on the top of his to do list.
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 07:36 PM
I respect your opinion on such matters Scoopyboy so am interested in your view.
On that basis you obviously think that if the budget stretches to a "marquee" signing that's where it should be?
Whilst I agree we need another striker(s) I like what we have and would settle for back up given the likely constraints of the budget
I personally think that that "marquee" money would be better spent on one or more of pace, width and creativity, where I think we are weaker.
Interested in your reply
One of my concerns about this season is I don't see a lot of goals from midfielders, similar to last season.
Therefore I would like to see a striker more than anything if a reasonable amount of money was to be spent on one player.
Neil Lennon has commented that he felt that Hibs didn't score enough goals last season and I think he will address that.
I agree re pace but Martin Boyle and / or Alex Harris / Dan Carmichael have that.
I don't think come the end of August we won't have all three of the players I have named.
eastmainsmsh
08-08-2016, 07:39 PM
I'd like kris Boyd if available on loan
I'd like kris Boyd if available on loan
It's the way you tell them. :greengrin
Greenworld
08-08-2016, 07:43 PM
I'd like kris Boyd if available on loan
It is Edinburgh festival time very funny
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Unseen work
08-08-2016, 07:44 PM
So first Cummings ain't that good and now holt.
If any other team had them 2 up top we would be very jealous saying why can we never get players like that.
Let's be happy with what we have and look forward to the new signings we make.
Starting with another striker for competition and a winger
truehibernian
08-08-2016, 07:48 PM
One of my concerns about this season is I don't see a lot of goals from midfielders, similar to last season.
Therefore I would like to see a striker more than anything if a reasonable amount of money was to be spent on one player.
Neil Lennon has commented that he felt that Hibs didn't score enough goals last season and I think he will address that.
I agree re pace but Martin Boyle and / or Alex Harris / Dan Carmichael have that.
I don't think come the end of August we won't have all three of the players I have named.
I agree in most part Scoopy but do you not think that's why NL is asking (and playing) Keatings regularly and in particular asking him to play a little deeper, dare I say as an attacking midfielder or outside left /right ?
I still think there is mileage in the Commons transfer - which will depend on Celtic's progression into the CL group stages.
I wouldn't be against Anier either - he's had a pre-season, linked up well in the short time he was on the pitch last time, and is a striker who has physicality to his game - which Lennon likes.
The_Horde
08-08-2016, 07:48 PM
One of my concerns about this season is I don't see a lot of goals from midfielders, similar to last season.
Therefore I would like to see a striker more than anything if a reasonable amount of money was to be spent on one player.
Neil Lennon has commented that he felt that Hibs didn't score enough goals last season and I think he will address that.
I agree re pace but Martin Boyle and / or Alex Harris / Dan Carmichael have that.
I don't think come the end of August we won't have all three of the players I have named.
Striker and an Allan/Commons/Hendersonnn type player and I think we'll be sweet. Definitely need another midfielder anyway.
I think we'll sign another 3 or 4.
snooky
08-08-2016, 07:56 PM
One of my concerns about this season is I don't see a lot of goals from midfielders, similar to last season.
Therefore I would like to see a striker more than anything if a reasonable amount of money was to be spent on one player.
Neil Lennon has commented that he felt that Hibs didn't score enough goals last season and I think he will address that.
I agree re pace but Martin Boyle and / or Alex Harris / Dan Carmichael have that.
I don't think come the end of August we won't have all three of the players I have named.
Double neg is totally confusing me Scoopyboy - sorry if I'm being a :doh:
Who are the three players? (Don't we already have Boyle/Harris/Carmichael? :dunno:)
Brightside
08-08-2016, 08:00 PM
Dunsmore away to Edin City on loan.
NORTHERNHIBBY
08-08-2016, 08:11 PM
I'd like kris Boyd if available on loan
Is that because some descriptions of Holt have been no pace and could lose a stone and we need a similar type when Holt can't play?
berwickhibee
08-08-2016, 08:16 PM
Dunsmore away to Edin City on loan.
Lewis Allan away to livi on loan too.
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 08:19 PM
Double neg is totally confusing me Scoopyboy - sorry if I'm being a :doh:
Who are the three players? (Don't we already have Boyle/Harris/Carmichael? :dunno:)
Oops made a mess of that, didn't mean the double negative.
I meant come the end of August we wont have all three.
Jonnyboy
08-08-2016, 08:20 PM
Dunsmore away to Edin City on loan.
Was he not there last year too?
Lewis Allan away to livi on loan too.
Do the laddie good to get some games IMO
Finn2015
08-08-2016, 08:22 PM
Think our present side is good enough to win the league. Relaxed about signings at the moment, we will see
Brightside
08-08-2016, 08:42 PM
Was he not there last year too?
Do the laddie good to get some games IMO
Yes. Agree on Lewis too... He's needs a good run of games.
Matty_Jack04
08-08-2016, 08:54 PM
So first Cummings ain't that good and now holt.
If any other team had them 2 up top we would be very jealous saying why can we never get players like that.
Let's be happy with what we have and look forward to the new signings we make.
Starting with another striker for competition and a winger
Henri anier has left Dundee Utd any info on where he's heading?
Hibs331875
08-08-2016, 08:57 PM
Anier and Henderson. Then we're ready imo
Heedersnvolleys
08-08-2016, 09:01 PM
Looking at our bench on Saturday we definitely need a couple more.
Michael
08-08-2016, 09:02 PM
I'd like kris Boyd if available on loan
Boyd and Riordan would score for fun in this league. :wink:
fat freddy
08-08-2016, 09:20 PM
Looking at our bench on Saturday we definitely need a couple more.
The outfield players on the bench were Bartley, Boyle, Stanton, Harris, Carmichael, Forster and Harris. Add the injured McGeouch and Fyvie and you could argue that you have eight players capable of getting a regular start with most teams in the championship. I just can't see how you could see that bench as anything other than more than adequate. Perhaps a 4th striker? But we are covered everywhere else
BSEJVT
08-08-2016, 09:27 PM
Oops made a mess of that, didn't mean the double negative.
I meant come the end of August we wont have all three.
Thanks for post and clarifying it as I thoughts you meant we would:greengrin
If you were a betting man in what order will they disappear?
scoopyboy
08-08-2016, 09:57 PM
Thanks for post and clarifying it as I thoughts out meant we would:greengrin
If you were a betting man in what order will they disappear?
I would bet Boyle to stay, Carmichael to leave and toss of a coin with Harris.
snooky
08-08-2016, 10:03 PM
I would bet Boyle to stay, Carmichael to leave and toss of a coin with Harris.
Slightly off topic.....
They say no man is an island, however we have Lewis & Harris.
:offski:
The Leith Dutch
08-08-2016, 10:07 PM
One of my concerns about this season is I don't see a lot of goals from midfielders, similar to last season.
Therefore I would like to see a striker more than anything if a reasonable amount of money was to be spent on one player.
Neil Lennon has commented that he felt that Hibs didn't score enough goals last season and I think he will address that.
Completely agree with the above and definitely could do with more goals from the midfield.
Given that we were regularly getting 15+ shots interested whether you think we created poor chances or whether we were poor at sticking them away? Or maybe a bit of both :D
The Leith Dutch
08-08-2016, 10:08 PM
Slightly off topic.....
They say no man is an island, however we have Lewis & Harris.
:offski:
I shouldn't but this made me laugh :D
Mikey09
08-08-2016, 11:35 PM
Might be going against the majority here but I'd take Anier back at Easter Road. I know he didn't play much in his spell on loan but think that was down to fitness. When he did play I was impressed. Put himself about, good in the air, holds the ball up well. Think he would definatly be good back up for Holt. Get him in I say.
poolman
08-08-2016, 11:49 PM
Slightly off topic.....
They say no man is an island, however we have Lewis & Harris.
:offski:
The Skye is the limit for those puns 😉
HoboHarry
09-08-2016, 12:32 AM
Patter here is s***e. I'm aff tae drink some Islay.......
:greengrin
snooky
09-08-2016, 12:36 AM
Patter here is s***e. I'm aff tae drink some Islay.......
:greengrin
Better haen some Rhum, no?
Spike Mandela
09-08-2016, 01:00 AM
Anier and Henderson. Then we're ready imo
Aren't we just rebuilding last years squad??????
Ozyhibby
09-08-2016, 03:03 AM
Aren't we just rebuilding last years squad??????
Yip. A lot of people just don't like change.
We came behind Falkirk last season. We can't afford to let that happen again. 30% increase in season ticket sales and people want Henri Anier? I'm sorry but we can do so much better.
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HoboHarry
09-08-2016, 03:04 AM
Better haen some Rhum, no?
:thumbsup:
Dashing Bob S
09-08-2016, 03:13 AM
Yip. A lot of people just don't like change.
We came behind Falkirk last season. We can't afford to let that happen again. 30% increase in season ticket sales and people want Henri Anier? I'm sorry but we can do so much better.
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If Anier was any good, he would have made an impact the last time he was here, and also at United, who wouldn't be keen for him to go to a rival. Common sense seems to dictate he's very average.
Heedersnvolleys
09-08-2016, 06:13 AM
The outfield players on the bench were Bartley, Boyle, Stanton, Harris, Carmichael, Forster and Harris. Add the injured McGeouch and Fyvie and you could argue that you have eight players capable of getting a regular start with most teams in the championship. I just can't see how you could see that bench as anything other than more than adequate. Perhaps a 4th striker? But we are covered everywhere else
All you mention apart from Bartley and Boyle never played last season as thought not good enough. Carmichael fit but fyvie and McGeouch are where they spent large parts of last season. We need quality to cover these 2 as I feel our form fell away when those 2 did not play. We are missing Hendo who played and Thomson who stepped in to cover. So yes I believe we are short.
Danderhall Hibs
09-08-2016, 06:27 AM
Is this the Anier that scored the same number of goals as the much derided Dagnall last season?
Hibs90
09-08-2016, 06:29 AM
Have to say I've been impressed with Holt so far, whether he can keep it up for the season and stay injury free is anyone's guess but I do think we need another similar type player if this is the system we are gonna play.
Vini1875
09-08-2016, 07:07 AM
Another striker is a must Holt will not play 40 or 50 games and a Keatings/Cummings combo gives us no threat in the air or muscle up front. It's rabbits out of hats time.
BSEJVT
09-08-2016, 07:39 AM
I would bet Boyle to stay, Carmichael to leave and toss of a coin with Harris.
Thanks again
Have to say I've been impressed with Holt so far, whether he can keep it up for the season and stay injury free is anyone's guess but I do think we need another similar type player if this is the system we are gonna play.
He seems to have had only the one serious injury last season but looks fairly injury free for most of his career.
Bleeds green
09-08-2016, 09:02 AM
http://stv.tv/sport/football/1363304-kris-commons-dropped-from-celtic-s-champions-league-play-off-squad/
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Callum_62
09-08-2016, 09:09 AM
http://stv.tv/sport/football/1363304-kris-commons-dropped-from-celtic-s-champions-league-play-off-squad/
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:wink:
Hibs90
09-08-2016, 09:12 AM
Notice Hendo is on their young players selection list, probably still won't see game time though. Wonder if Allan's move to Rotherham has stopped his deal coming here
truehibernian
09-08-2016, 09:14 AM
http://stv.tv/sport/football/1363304-kris-commons-dropped-from-celtic-s-champions-league-play-off-squad/
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Stage 1 of the move to Hibs complete.
JDHibs
09-08-2016, 09:18 AM
Notice Hendo is on their young players selection list, probably still won't see game time though. Wonder if Allan's move to Rotherham has stopped his deal coming here
There is no reason not to put Hendo on it, just incase. It doesnt count towards their quota as he is a youth product.
Allans deal wont have hampered any deal involving Hendo.
Big_Franck
09-08-2016, 09:24 AM
http://stv.tv/sport/football/1363304-kris-commons-dropped-from-celtic-s-champions-league-play-off-squad/
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That article says Commons and Darnell Fisher have both been dropped from the squad. Anyone think Fisher would be a decent option as competition for Gray and Stevenson? He played really well the first couple of times I saw him play for Celtic and i'm sure he played both right and left back. I notice he was on loan at St Johnstone last year but I've no idea how he did for them.
CapitalGreen
09-08-2016, 09:29 AM
That article says Commons and Darnell Fisher have both been dropped from the squad. Anyone think Fisher would be a decent option as competition for Gray and Stevenson? He played really well the first couple of times I saw him play for Celtic and i'm sure he played both right and left back. I notice he was on loan at St Johnstone last year but I've no idea how he did for them.
Celtic aren't going to loan someone to come sit on our bench.
Bleeds green
09-08-2016, 09:32 AM
That article says Commons and Darnell Fisher have both been dropped from the squad. Anyone think Fisher would be a decent option as competition for Gray and Stevenson? He played really well the first couple of times I saw him play for Celtic and i'm sure he played both right and left back. I notice he was on loan at St Johnstone last year but I've no idea how he did for them.
Heading to Rotherham apparently
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Bleeds green
09-08-2016, 09:34 AM
Notice Hendo is on their young players selection list, probably still won't see game time though. Wonder if Allan's move to Rotherham has stopped his deal coming here
Lennon has already said Celtic won't get back to hibs until after they have negotiated the champ league qualifiers don't expect anything to be said until those games are played Celtic are notoriously hard to negotiate with as seen with LG almost returning twice!
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Borderhibbie76
09-08-2016, 11:32 AM
The outfield players on the bench were Bartley, Boyle, Stanton, Harris, Carmichael, Forster and Harris. Add the injured McGeouch and Fyvie and you could argue that you have eight players capable of getting a regular start with most teams in the championship. I just can't see how you could see that bench as anything other than more than adequate. Perhaps a 4th striker? But we are covered everywhere else
Couldn't agree more mate that's a strong bench imo and all would get a game for any other championship side easily
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Andy74
09-08-2016, 12:10 PM
The outfield players on the bench were Bartley, Boyle, Stanton, Harris, Carmichael, Forster and Harris. Add the injured McGeouch and Fyvie and you could argue that you have eight players capable of getting a regular start with most teams in the championship. I just can't see how you could see that bench as anything other than more than adequate. Perhaps a 4th striker? But we are covered everywhere else
I'd prefer to look a bit higher than adequate. I'm not sure Stanton, Harris and Carmichael have shown they could be described even as adequate based on their contributions so far.
We have a huge budget for this league. The judgement surely isn't whether they could play for other Championship teams? I'm sure they could but we want Hibs players.
MWHIBBIES
09-08-2016, 12:11 PM
I'd prefer to look a bit higher than adequate. I'm not sure Stanton, Harris and Carmichael have shown they could be described even as adequate based on their contributions so far.Carmichael hasn't had a bad game for Hibs, he just had a major injury last season.
jacomo
09-08-2016, 12:14 PM
He seems to have had only the one serious injury last season but looks fairly injury free for most of his career.
Yes but he's 35!
Fatigue will surely take its toll at some point.
I'd prefer to look a bit higher than adequate. I'm not sure Stanton, Harris and Carmichael have shown they could be described even as adequate based on their contributions so far.
We have a huge budget for this league. The judgement surely isn't whether they could play for other Championship teams? I'm sure they could but we want Hibs players.
You want higher than adequate cover but players that are better than that will not come merely as cover, good players will want to be playing unless you give them enough wages to compensate like they do at big clubs in England.
Yes but he's 35!
Fatigue will surely take its toll at some point.
Kenny miller didn't look overly fatigued last season.
Andy74
09-08-2016, 12:27 PM
You want higher than adequate cover but players that are better than that will not come merely as cover, good players will want to be playing unless you give them enough wages to compensate like they do at big clubs in England.
Players come to be part of a squad and challenge for places. Last season we had the likes of Henderson, McGeough, Keatings, Bartley and Gunnarson who had to sit on the bench at times. I'd rather than than players like Harris and Stanton who haven't done enough to push to be in this team.
Players come to be part of a squad and challenge for places. Last season we had the likes of Henderson, McGeough, Keatings, Bartley and Gunnarson who had to sit on the bench at times. I'd rather than than players like Harris and Stanton who haven't done enough to push to be in this team.
I agree and this is probably why nothing is being announced as we're trying to get quality rather than quantity.
Alfred E Newman
09-08-2016, 12:41 PM
The squad as it stands looks capable of competing well enough until the end of the window. There is also the small matter of the expected fine for the Cup Final carry on to consider .
HibsNutter
09-08-2016, 12:47 PM
We must be looking for better players than Henri Anier, he had a couple of good touches for us last season. Granted that was mostly due to time on the sidelines but we need players who are reliable. Differs with someone like McGeouch who is so influential when fit.
staunchhibby
09-08-2016, 01:44 PM
Have seen stanton in the pre season friendlies where he played well to be kept in the pool.Not sure if you were at any of them
jacomo
09-08-2016, 02:35 PM
Kenny miller didn't look overly fatigued last season.
Agree, he looks in great shape for another season or two.
I just think we are a little light up front, as Keatings / Cummings doesn't look like a great pairing.
Lee Marvin
09-08-2016, 02:37 PM
Agree, he looks in great shape for another season or two.
I just think we are a little light up front, as Keatings / Cummings doesn't look like a great pairing.
Especially if lennon sees keatings playing in the hole for much of the season.
Hibby Kay-Yay
09-08-2016, 02:51 PM
Especially if lennon sees keatings playing in the hole for much of the season.
Giggity
Agree, he looks in great shape for another season or two.
I just think we are a little light up front, as Keatings / Cummings doesn't look like a great pairing.
I agree we need another striker but it has to be someone similar to Holt to give us fresh legs in his position, JC and Keats are too similar, I just don't think it should be Anier.
Stevie Reid
09-08-2016, 03:14 PM
Yes but he's 35!
Fatigue will surely take its toll at some point.
John Terry played every minute of every EPL game for Chelsea when they won the league in 2015 - he was 34 then.
The Godfather
09-08-2016, 03:28 PM
John Terry played every minute of every EPL game for Chelsea when they won the league in 2015 - he was 34 then.
It could be argued that CF is a more physically demanding position than CH!
Smartie
09-08-2016, 03:31 PM
Especially if lennon sees keatings playing in the hole for much of the season.
:agree:
That was my concern on Saturday.
If those 3 play from the start there is no cover for injuries or anyone who can come on and change a game if it doesn't work out for those 3 on the day.
Although you could probably have stuck Carmichael or Stanton into Keatings' position and stuck Keatings up front if Holt or Cummings got injured.
Or at a push you might play Boyle or even Harris up front?
Stevie Reid
09-08-2016, 03:33 PM
It could be argued that CF is a more physically demanding position than CH!
It could be - it wouldn't really cut it as an argument for me.
However, it can certainly be argued that the EPL is more demanding than the Scottish Championship!
seanoheimhin
09-08-2016, 03:56 PM
Sorry if mentioned already, but Henderson included in Celtic's CL squad for their playoff tie.
Guess it doesn't completely rule out a move back to us, but doesn't bode well.
On the other hand, Commons excluded...
ancient hibee
09-08-2016, 04:00 PM
Sorry if mentioned already, but Henderson included in Celtic's CL squad for their playoff tie.
Guess it doesn't completely rule out a move back to us, but doesn't bode well.
On the other hand, Commons excluded...
No no point in including a player that couldn't raise a gallop.
makaveli1875
10-08-2016, 06:40 AM
not amused with this summers transfer activity ....
we were bombarded with all this target 10k sales crap , if we sell 10k season tickets it will give us the funds to sign the players to win the league
well weve kept our end of the bargain and bought 10'600 + season tickets
so where are the players we were being promised . the season has now started and so far signed a striker thats older than me and 2 goalies , 1 of which we are yet to see in action . its not good enough
blackpoolhibs
10-08-2016, 06:45 AM
It will not matter one jot who we sign if we continue with Stevenson and Gray as our wide midfielders if we play a 3-5-2.
It works on the odd occasion against teams that attack us, but against teams that sit in its useless. Before we sign Henderson or any other midfielder, we should be signing decent wingers/wingbacks who can actually play there.
Finn2015
10-08-2016, 06:45 AM
not amused with this summers transfer activity ....
we were bombarded with all this target 10k sales crap , if we sell 10k season tickets it will give us the funds to sign the players to win the league
well weve kept our end of the bargain and bought 10'600 + season tickets
so where are the players we were being promised . the season has now started and so far signed a striker thats older than me and 2 goalies , 1 of which we are yet to see in action . its not good enough
Yip I was expecting to see more faces arrive to be honest
jeffers
10-08-2016, 07:02 AM
It will not matter one jot who we sign if we continue with Stevenson and Gray as our wide midfielders if we play a 3-5-2.
It works on the odd occasion against teams that attack us, but against teams that sit in its useless. Before we sign Henderson or any other midfielder, we should be signing decent wingers/wingbacks who can actually play there.
Totally agree BH, both are decent defenders, but not the creative outlets we need out wide. Would be tough on either of them to be dropped but if we insist on playing 3-5-2 we need more natural wing backs.
Brightside
10-08-2016, 07:04 AM
Totally agree BH, both are decent defenders, but not the creative outlets we need out wide. Would be tough on either of them to be dropped but if we insist on playing 3-5-2 we need more natural wing backs.
We played a 343 tho? I agree it didn't work.
jeffers
10-08-2016, 07:19 AM
We played a 343 tho? I agree it didn't work.
Sorry underscore you are right. Trouble is unless NL can make some signings then we are stuck with the same issues we had under AS - not enough pace, fullbacks being expected to be our creative outlets, midfielders who rarely score and far too reliant on Cummings up front. While I will be delighted to see Liam Henderson return he was part of the midfield that didn't chip in with enough goals. Commons on the other hand you'd hope would chip in with 15+ a season. I'm also not convinced by Holt so far as being a striker who will contribute many, although I hope I'm wrong. So pressure all back on Cummings to get our goals.
Watching last night it could have been one of a number of games last season where we had enough chances to win, didn't take these chances and got hit late on. I had hoped things would be different under Lennon, but tbf how can he coach players not to miss easy chances.
Borderhibbie76
10-08-2016, 04:39 PM
All the issues of last season and the season before were there for all to see last night....so lennon surely sees this too?? U have till end of August to get this sorted and get some width and pace into our team
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