From Leeann

[B.H.F.C]

I was quite supportive of her post on Sunday. Them cancelling this this visit with 3 days notice makes a mockery of the whole thing though. It's things like this that are the reason people are negative Leeann. Along with the fact we have 11 points from 9 games.

We better not dare pick this whole thing to pieces though. It would be counter productive. Apparently.

[steakbake]

Something is afoot- no one can get their PR this wrong without some kind of situation being contained in the background.

Just to speculate:

LD to leave the club?
AS to leave the club?
Players not willing?
Nervousness about Saturday's game and having to face fans?

I'm not sure. Things far from right at HFC: and that is not me being negative - the symptoms are staring us in the face.

[Mibbes Aye]

Something is afoot- no one can get their PR this wrong without some kind of situation being contained in the background.

Just to speculate:

LD to leave the club?
AS to leave the club?
Players not willing?
Nervousness about Saturday's game and having to face fans?

I'm not sure. Things far from right at HFC: and that is not me being negative - the symptoms are staring us in the face.

Or it's just the internet :dunno:

[steakbake]

Or it's just the internet :dunno:

...or it's just been cancelled with 3 days notice, in a week which has seen a CEO complain about negativity, pissing off around 50 fans and bringing it to the attention of hundreds more.

Yeah, it's all something about nothing.

[macd123]

She hasn't told us to just be positive.
She hasn't blamed the fans, she just explained how demotivating the constant negativity from some can be. That's a truth in any walk of life.
If she had come on here and merely told us how wonderful the fans are then she would have been dismissed for patronising us. Personally I don't care for statements from the board etc, I just want to see results. But when many here were calling for LD to come in here and explain herself it's even more depressing to see people falling over themselves to put as negative a spin as possible on what was said. Before anybody responds by pointing out the position the team is currently in I know. We all do.

We don't need told we are wonderful but she has made one post on here and there is no focus on the supporters who follow the club positively through thick and thin. There are thousands who have supported her and what she is doing.

Statements like "we need the fans to get behind us on saturday" or "lets stop the negativity" never achieve a thing. We all know there are folk who just shout abuse at players all day. So this is maybe addressed to them. But what about the rest of us?? We deserve more credit than that.

We do want to hear what they are working on and how it's going. But maybe next time it can include something football related like the improvements in sports science or scouting. Or the extra 1000 kids she mentioned. Not several paragraphs about the negative stuff.

[GreenCastle]

You'd obviously prefer to carry on moaning instead of trying to understand.



Which is why Leeann Dempster was head hunted and appointed.

I'm not moaning - just asking simple questions - can you answer them please?

What does RP currently do for Hibs?

What is his role/job description and what are his plans ?

[CropleyWasGod]

I'm not moaning - just asking simple questions - can you answer them please?

What does RP currently do for Hibs?

What is his role/job description and what are his plans ?
According to what is in the public domain, he's non-executive chairman. So he chairs Board meetings.

He is also the link between the Board and STF.

[oneone73]

According to what is in the public domain, he's non-executive chairman. So he chairs Board meetings.

He is also the link between the Board and STF.

Is it ludicrous to suggest STF might want to show a bit of interest and attend a board meeting himself?
Aye, thought so.

[CropleyWasGod]

Is it ludicrous to suggest STF might want to show a bit of interest and attend a board meeting himself?
Aye, thought so.
He's not a Board member.

So....aye, it is :)

[Brooster]

Good on Leeann for posting on here and making the effort. What she has to remember though is that the clientele on here are not a realistic cross section of the Hibs support, in fact I wouldn't give a lot of them the time of day, I even have my doubts if some are even Hibs supporters. The negativity and abuse on most of the threads on here is beyond a joke and certainly isn't something that is replicated in and around Easter Road and away grounds on match days, don't get me wrong there's a bit of moaning but nothing like the scale we see on here.
Having visited East Mains on the East Lothian HSC visit I was a bit taken aback at the scale of the mess the club was in but I'm convinced that Leeann, George and Stubbsy and everyone else now connected with the club will turn things around given time. It may be slow and painful at times but we MUST get behind them. They will get good backing today as they always do at all away games from whata(in my opinion) is a true cross section of the Hibs support.
It's a pity the hibs.net visit to East Mains is postponed but it wouldn't be the same without watching the players train etc. It needs to fit in around the players and management.

[macca70]

Good on Leeann for posting on here and making the effort. What she has to remember though is that the clientele on here are not a realistic cross section of the Hibs support, in fact I wouldn't give a lot of them the time of day, I even have my doubts if some are even Hibs supporters. The negativity and abuse on most of the threads on here is beyond a joke and certainly isn't something that is replicated in and around Easter Road and away grounds on match days, don't get me wrong there's a bit of moaning but nothing like the scale we see on here. Having visited East Mains on the East Lothian HSC visit I was a bit taken aback at the scale if the mess the club was in but I'm convinced that Leeann, George and Stubbsy and everyone else now connected with the club will turn things around given time. It may be slow and painful at times but we MUST get behind them. They will get good backing today as they always do at all away games from wat (in my opinion) is a trues cross section of the Hibs support. It's a pity the hibs.net visit to East Mains is postponed but it wouldn't be the same without watching the players train etc. It needs to fit in around the players and management.

Lol, I'm going to slate Hibs.Net members, of which you are 1.

Uber Fan alert!!

[Brooster]

Lol, I'm going to slate Hibs.Net members, of which you are 1.

Uber Fan alert!!

Very good. This place isn't a patch on what it used to be now that it is swamped by folk who couldnt tell you how to get to Easter Road going on and on about this that and the next.

[Islington Hibs]

Good on Leeann for posting on here and making the effort. What she has to remember though is that the clientele on here are not a realistic cross section of the Hibs support, in fact I wouldn't give a lot of them the time of day, I even have my doubts if some are even Hibs supporters. The negativity and abuse on most of the threads on here is beyond a joke and certainly isn't something that is replicated in and around Easter Road and away grounds on match days, don't get me wrong there's a bit of moaning but nothing like the scale we see on here.
Having visited East Mains on the East Lothian HSC visit I was a bit taken aback at the scale of the mess the club was in but I'm convinced that Leeann, George and Stubbsy and everyone else now connected with the club will turn things around given time. It may be slow and painful at times but we MUST get behind them. They will get good backing today as they always do at all away games from whata(in my opinion) is a true cross section of the Hibs support.
It's a pity the hibs.net visit to East Mains is postponed but it wouldn't be the same without watching the players train etc. It needs to fit in around the players and management.

Spot on:top marks

If I was LD I would stay well away from this board. Some people will never be happy.

I am interested however in your comments about being taken aback by the scale of the mess. can you elaborate? If so it is no reflection on the current CEO and management team, but does not reflect will on others.

[Keith_M]

Spot on:top marks

If I was LD I would stay well away from this board. Some people will never be happy.



:agree:


There are some Posters, despite their protestations to the contrary, that only come on here to slate Hibs and do so at every opportunity.

I'm not talking about people that criticise something that has been done badly, for instance cancelling the East Mains visit at short notice or the TV debacle, but the ones that just can't wait to put the boot in. Some of them either wouldn't know where Easter Road is or can't remember the last time they paid to get into a game.

[WestStandMoaner]

We don't need told we are wonderful but she has made one post on here and there is no focus on the supporters who follow the club positively through thick and thin. There are thousands who have supported her and what she is doing.

Statements like "we need the fans to get behind us on saturday" or "lets stop the negativity" never achieve a thing. We all know there are folk who just shout abuse at players all day. So this is maybe addressed to them. But what about the rest of us?? We deserve more credit than that.

We do want to hear what they are working on and how it's going. But maybe next time it can include something football related like the improvements in sports science or scouting. Or the extra 1000 kids she mentioned. Not several paragraphs about the negative stuff.

I support LD if the changes required will make hibs stronger in the future but I think her priorities at the moment are focused on the wrong issues. I also cannot understand if things are that bad why Petrie still remains in his position and I am beginning to get a bit suspicious that as soon as the team does not perform the CEO comes out and blames the fans. LD made a post and stepped back knowing it would split the fans view, the longer the fans are at each other throat it will deflect the short comings of Stubbs and LD herself. As many posters have said, put a winning team on the park and many of her problems go away and many thousands of fans may return. It is also true there are many positives but LD chose to ignore this and only concentrated on negative issues.

I am getting really hacked off at always being told from the hierarchy at Hibs that its all the fans fault. Lets be clear the fans are the life blood of the club, if its getting too hot for LD then let her go, she is obviously not the person she make out to be. LD must have known the challenges ahead before taking the position I think that was obvious the minute we got relegated.

FARMER OUT, PETRIE OUT

[oneone73]

He's not a Board member.

So....aye, it is :)

Couldn't he be Petrie's conduit?

[CropleyWasGod]

Couldn't he be Petrie's conduit?
Why would RP need a conduit? He's on the Board.

[jacomo]

You seem to find it surprising that a board would set the 'agenda' (I'd call it 'direction' or 'strategy') of a business/CEO. I'm almost certain that one of Dempster's tasks upon taking over was to move the club towards closer ties with the support.

Like most people, individual tasks aren't an 'either that or this'. A CEO and their team can usually deal with more than one thing at a time.

No I am not surprised at all. I am surprised by those who claim LD is in sole charge and demand 'evidence' that RP still exerts any influence. He remains chair of the board, what other evidence is required?

I do think LD was hired in part to 'fix' the club's relationship with the supporters, and probably to smooth the transition to a change in ownership. I also think that this is a distraction right now, and until the 'football' bit of this football club is fixed it's the wrong priority.

[rcarter1]

Leann,

If you are still reading this board you are either brave or a glutton for punishment. For my pennys worth, I believe the club needs to work out the solutions to its problems without worrying about the fans and their criticism. Hibs supporters are arguably institutionally grumpy and critical, and the last 7 years have just compounded this. But imagine you were to go to Tynecastle when Hearts have had 7 years of poor results, derby defeats and record breaking humiliations and you will experience grumpy and critical in spades.

But seriously if it were me, I would say to the players and management: Forget the fans, just do it for yourselves. If success follows, then the appreciation and congratulations will follow. You will also find these same fans in a much more positive state of mind to work with.

I wish you and all the rest of the team only the very best wishes and luck.

[HFC 0-7]

Good on Leeann for posting on here and making the effort. What she has to remember though is that the clientele on here are not a realistic cross section of the Hibs support, in fact I wouldn't give a lot of them the time of day, I even have my doubts if some are even Hibs supporters. The negativity and abuse on most of the threads on here is beyond a joke and certainly isn't something that is replicated in and around Easter Road and away grounds on match days, don't get me wrong there's a bit of moaning but nothing like the scale we see on here.
Having visited East Mains on the East Lothian HSC visit I was a bit taken aback at the scale of the mess the club was in but I'm convinced that Leeann, George and Stubbsy and everyone else now connected with the club will turn things around given time. It may be slow and painful at times but we MUST get behind them. They will get good backing today as they always do at all away games from whata(in my opinion) is a true cross section of the Hibs support.
It's a pity the hibs.net visit to East Mains is postponed but it wouldn't be the same without watching the players train etc. It needs to fit in around the players and management.

Slating fans is never good and you seem to be taking some uber high ground here. Maybe this board does represent a realistic cross section of the support, more moaning here could well be because it's a good place to vent. I moan here but I don't moan and shout at games, which will be the same for others too. IMO, there is not as much abuse or moaning at games this season as previous seasons, not where I sit anyway. It's more people just sitting there and not saying anything about poor play etc.

yes there are few folk that seem intent on ripping the club to shreds but these forums provide a good platform to let off some steam. Imagine if people were not venting on here and saving it all up for the games!

THe cancellation of the east mains visit was poor from hibs, fixtures have been in place for ages and they should have known. You may be right, it may not have been as good without the players training but why not ask us what we want to do rather than just cancel. I bet Leann would put this in with the other own goals. I wasn't going but if I was I would have been taking my 8 year old and he would have been gutted as I bet a lot of other kids are now.

[Beefster]

Good on Leeann for posting on here and making the effort. What she has to remember though is that the clientele on here are not a realistic cross section of the Hibs support, in fact I wouldn't give a lot of them the time of day, I even have my doubts if some are even Hibs supporters. The negativity and abuse on most of the threads on here is beyond a joke and certainly isn't something that is replicated in and around Easter Road and away grounds on match days, don't get me wrong there's a bit of moaning but nothing like the scale we see on here.
Having visited East Mains on the East Lothian HSC visit I was a bit taken aback at the scale of the mess the club was in but I'm convinced that Leeann, George and Stubbsy and everyone else now connected with the club will turn things around given time. It may be slow and painful at times but we MUST get behind them. They will get good backing today as they always do at all away games from whata(in my opinion) is a true cross section of the Hibs support.
It's a pity the hibs.net visit to East Mains is postponed but it wouldn't be the same without watching the players train etc. It needs to fit in around the players and management.


Very good. This place isn't a patch on what it used to be now that it is swamped by folk who couldnt tell you how to get to Easter Road going on and on about this that and the next.

As usual, Brooster, you cut through all the bull**** better than most.

[MrSmith]

I believe most fans are supportive of LD however, the dissatisfaction comes from RP still being around. All I want is a competitive team on the park not a team languishing in the bottom half of the championship! It is time to focus on the team not continue with this culture of blaming the fans - that has to stop!!

[Hiber-nation]

Very good. This place isn't a patch on what it used to be now that it is swamped by folk who couldnt tell you how to get to Easter Road going on and on about this that and the next.

Sopt on Steven but the problem is we need to get these people back to Easter Road somehow.

[Mibbes Aye]

...or it's just been cancelled with 3 days notice, in a week which has seen a CEO complain about negativity, pissing off around 50 fans and bringing it to the attention of hundreds more.

Yeah, it's all something about nothing.

Steakbake, apologies for how I came across. Re-reading my post it feels dismissive.

I had friends who were booked in for Monday's visit with their sons and I very nearly booked in myself with my children, so I do think it's a bit of a disgrace.

The point I was trying to make - badly - was that I think things get a bit magnified on places like this and become greater than the sum of their parts. It feels like we can whip ourselves up into hysteria at times about stuff - maybe that's just the nature of social media, forums and instant gratification and that.

Sorry for the tone of my reply.

[The Gorf]

:agree:


There are some Posters, despite their protestations to the contrary, that only come on here to slate Hibs and do so at every opportunity.

I'm not talking about people that criticise something that has been done badly, for instance cancelling the East Mains visit at short notice or the TV debacle, but the ones that just can't wait to put the boot in. Some of them either wouldn't know where Easter Road is or can't remember the last time they paid to get into a game.
Are these not undercover yams possibly?

[davieh]

I think Leeann's inbox may be less troublesome this week

[greenlex]

She is right. Despite a decent performance and a 4-0 away win we are foaming at the mouth about a loan deal for our keeper none of us know anything about. Wonder what it will be when we end Hearts unbeaten run next week?

[SHODAN]

She is right. Despite a decent performance and a 4-0 away win we are foaming at the mouth about a loan deal for our keeper none of us know anything about. Wonder what it will be when we end Hearts unbeaten run next week?

I wouldn't say we're foaming at the mouth, more slightly concerned as anyone would be that we may be losing our first choice keeper.

Winning 4-0 away from home has killed a lot of the negativity on here. Your usual doom and gloomers (would tentatively include myself in that :wink:) have either changed their tune or are suspiciously absent. All we have to do is produce performances like that every week and no one will give a **** about anything else. :agree:

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

There you go Leeann. A good, winning performance on the pitch and we are reduced to arguing amongst ourselves about wee laddies with smoke bombs etc. More results like that and a lot of the negativity will soon dissipate.

[southsider]

I wouldn't say we're foaming at the mouth, more slightly concerned as anyone would be that we may be losing our first choice keeper.

Winning 4-0 away from home has killed a lot of the negativity on here. Your usual doom and gloomers (would tentatively include myself in that :wink:) have either changed their tune or are suspiciously absent. All we have to do is produce performances like that every week and no one will give a **** about anything else. :agree:
Correct. Apart from the two financial cheats and us the league is made up of whole hearted pub league teams. We should be winning 4-0 most weeks. A win next week is vital. Wish we had Sparky.

[macd123]

I support LD if the changes required will make hibs stronger in the future but I think her priorities at the moment are focused on the wrong issues. I also cannot understand if things are that bad why Petrie still remains in his position and I am beginning to get a bit suspicious that as soon as the team does not perform the CEO comes out and blames the fans. LD made a post and stepped back knowing it would split the fans view, the longer the fans are at each other throat it will deflect the short comings of Stubbs and LD herself. As many posters have said, put a winning team on the park and many of her problems go away and many thousands of fans may return. It is also true there are many positives but LD chose to ignore this and only concentrated on negative issues.

I am getting really hacked off at always being told from the hierarchy at Hibs that its all the fans fault. Lets be clear the fans are the life blood of the club, if its getting too hot for LD then let her go, she is obviously not the person she make out to be. LD must have known the challenges ahead before taking the position I think that was obvious the minute we got relegated.

FARMER OUT, PETRIE OUT

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/hibs-should-be-thankful-fans-still-care-1-3577586

There is some truth in this.

[WestCoastHibby]

http://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/spfl-lower-divisions/hibs-should-be-thankful-fans-still-care-1-3577586

There is some truth in this.

I concur. She sounded like she was running on empty last interview I heard....