Summer 2020-21 transfer thread

[Peevemor]

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This is the 5th window in a row we’ve gone into with the same midfield issues. I hope they do read his post tbh.

What midfield issues haven't been adressed? Not signing another John McGinn? When was the last John McGinn we had before John McGinn? How likely is it that we'll find another one?

[Billy Whizz]

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[The Modfather]

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What midfield issues haven't been adressed? Not signing another John McGinn? When was the last John McGinn we had before John McGinn? How likely is it that we'll find another one?

The fact this is the 3rd season in a row we’ve gone into not having a balanced midfield. I could accept if the quality wasn’t good enough if I could see what the midfield plan was. We appear to have mainly just signed a collection of individuals without much thought to how they all fit together.

[The 90+2]

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This is the 5th window in a row we’ve gone into with the same midfield issues. I hope they do read his post tbh.

No the previous three we needed a hood spoiling midfielder and we signed the stand out in the league last season for this.

[The 90+2]

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The fact this is the 3rd season in a row we’ve gone into not having a balanced midfield. I could accept if the quality wasn’t good enough if I could see what the midfield plan was. We appear to have mainly just signed a collection of individuals without much thought to how they all fit together.

Apart from Gocic.

[Oscar T Grouch]

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What level is Woking

National League south, 6th level in England I think. 2nd level of the National League System.

[Smartie]

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Apart from Gocic.

The Gogic signing is an excellent one but it was always going to take more than one player to turn our midfield into an acceptable one, especially with Whittaker and Slivka leaving.

A player a bit short of McGinn's level but still bringing certain attributes could transform this team.

And the Aberdeen game showed what we have without Gogic, so some further cover for that area wouldn't go amiss too, as he will miss games.

[The Modfather]

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No the previous three we needed a hood spoiling midfielder and we signed the stand out in the league last season for this.

That’s why I said “mainly”. Gogic is a very good signing and clear what his role is and how he fits in but we’re in the 5th window and he’s just one piece of an unfinished picture.

[Peevemor]

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The fact this is the 3rd season in a row we’ve gone into not having a balanced midfield. I could accept if the quality wasn’t good enough if I could see what the midfield plan was. We appear to have mainly just signed a collection of individuals without much thought to how they all fit together.

Wright
Boyle

Newell
Gogic
Hallberg

Murray
Mallan
Allan

For me the balance of width, stopping and creativity isn't bad - the problem is getting everyone on their game and available for selection at the same time.

If there's somebody we can bring in who'll improve things then all the better, but I don't see any need to panic either.

[The 90+2]

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That’s why I said “mainly”. Gogic is a very good signing and clear what his role is and how he fits in but we’re in the 5th window and he’s just one piece of an unfinished picture.

You said the same midfield issues, I feel we recognise these issues and have tried to rectify in very testing times. Don’t think recruitment team are to blame at the moment, like said before it’s better nobody already than some ***** just for the sake of it. Plenty time left in the window.

[The 90+2]

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The Gogic signing is an excellent one but it was always going to take more than one player to turn our midfield into an acceptable one, especially with Whittaker and Slivka leaving.

A player a bit short of McGinn's level but still bringing certain attributes could transform this team.

And the Aberdeen game showed what we have without Gogic, so some further cover for that area wouldn't go amiss too, as he will miss games.

100%. I would argue we need two more midfielders still also but we don’t seem to be blindly going in again with the same issues which seemed to be the criticism.

[The 90+2]

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Wright
Boyle

Newell
Gogic
Hallberg

Murray
Mallan
Allan

For me the balance of width, stopping and creativity isn't bad - the problem is getting everyone on their game and available for selection at the same time.

If there's somebody we can bring in who'll improve things then all the better, but I don't see any need to panic either.

There’s a distinct lack of energy and composure in the middle of the park for me.

[scoopyboy]

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Ojo, McCrorie and now Fraser within the past year.

Annoying when we're the patsy for players going elsewhere.

I'm all for us sticking to our budget. But we always hear about us 'selling our vision' to players. When, let's be honest, about 90% of players out there just care about who's offering the biggest wage.

Just infuriating losing out on another target we were interested in.

Just hope the next one isn't a Vela type signing! I'd prefer we just stuck with what we have if it's signing someone for the sake of it.

I suppose other clubs were the patsies when we signed Gogic, Nisbet, Wright and Murphy.

[dchibs]

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I had hoped we would sign Fraser before he went to Burton. I've been following his fortunes down there and it hasn't surprised me he's done so well.

A very good attacking midfielder, who is excellent in dead ball situations. Fairly one sided but he would be a fantastic signing for Hibs.

Thought he was great when we played DU at ER, When Levine was supposed to have signed him on a pre contract I thought he would be a good player for them, ended up at burton and was getting rave reviews class player but dont know what kind of shift he would put in.

[The Modfather]

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Wright
Boyle

Newell
Gogic
Hallberg

Murray
Mallan
Allan

For me the balance of width, stopping and creativity isn't bad - the problem is getting everyone on their game and avilable for selection at the same time.

Agree to disagree. I don’t think there’s any combination of a balanced central midfield from those You have listed (Newell, Gogic, Hallberg, Mallan & Allan). It’s the same midfield that badly struggled last season, and in a lot of games this season. Plus the addition of Gogic, who has been a good signing, but won’t fix the problems of last season, and this season, on his own.

[LeithMike]

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There’s a distinct lack of energy and composure in the middle of the park for me.

Agree. Two more for me needed.



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[The Modfather]

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You said the same midfield issues, I feel we recognise these issues and have tried to rectify in very testing times. Don’t think recruitment team are to blame at the moment, like said before it’s better nobody already than some ***** just for the sake of it. Plenty time left in the window.

Yep, we still currently have the same midfield issue as we have the last two seasons, balance IMO. The signing of Gogic makes sense and is a promising sign, but until we actually sign what’s needed this window (and there’s enough time to still do that) but until we do sign the type of midfielders we need, which we haven’t in the previous 4 windows the jury still remains out IMO.

[neil7908]

The McRorie one frustrated me as the club were talking about it publicly and Sevco have given us the run around.

Absolutely no reason for any Hibs fan to get annoyed at the club on the Fraser transfer though. All we have is one journo putting out a story. I'm sure Hibs look at dozens of players every window that don't materialise. That's part of the game. You don't get every target.

[Stanton Spence]

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Not just this deal, couldn't care less about Scott Fraser, it's the time it's taking us to address a blatantly obvious issue!

When does the transfer window shut? And you do know there's a massive pandemic sweeping the planet which is affecting everything and anything

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[Stanton Spence]

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Ojo, McCrorie and now Fraser within the past year.

Annoying when we're the patsy for players going elsewhere.

I'm all for us sticking to our budget. But we always hear about us 'selling our vision' to players. When, let's be honest, about 90% of players out there just care about who's offering the biggest wage.

Just infuriating losing out on another target we were interested in.

Just hope the next one isn't a Vela type signing! I'd prefer we just stuck with what we have if it's signing someone for the sake of it.

I get what your saying bud and yes it's really annoying seeing players that might do a job for us go elsewhere but we ain't patsys for anyone. We have a budget like every other club on the planet and the well run clubs will stick to said budget and won't spend what they don't have to please some fans who don't have a clue how to run a football club
I'm also certain that we have been interested in a lot more players than the ones you have mentioned and they have all ended up elsewhere
Thank **** we or you don't hear about all the players we are interested in and lose out on. I dread to think how annoyed that would make you feel

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[JammyDoidger]

We aren't physical or mobile enough to win the battle against a decent midfield. We don't have anyone dropping in to take it off the defence and build the play, don't look after the ball enough. We've got allan looking for the World Cup pass. And newell and Mallan able to hit a set piece.

[J-C]

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The McRorie one frustrated me as the club were talking about it publicly and Sevco have given us the run around.

Absolutely no reason for any Hibs fan to get annoyed at the club on the Fraser transfer though. All we have is one journo putting out a story. I'm sure Hibs look at dozens of players every window that don't materialise. That's part of the game. You don't get every target.

Gerrard spoke publicly at 1st not Hibs, a deal was agreed between Rangers and the player until Aberdeen got involved, the loan and future payment plus extra wages for the player changed it. Hibs were not happy at all, the club and player went back on a gentleman's agreement.

[JohnM1875]

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I get what your saying bud and yes it's really annoying seeing players that might do a job for us go elsewhere but we ain't patsys for anyone. We have a budget like every other club on the planet and the well run clubs will stick to said budget and won't spend what they don't have to please some fans who don't have a clue how to run a football club
I'm also certain that we have been interested in a lot more players than the ones you have mentioned and they have all ended up elsewhere
Thank **** we or you don't hear about all the players we are interested in and lose out on. I dread to think how annoyed that would make you feel

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Haha I don't disagree about that at all. I'd be fizzing! 😡

It's just frustration on my part. I'm sure I'll be buzzing as soon as the next rumour comes along.

[Stanton Spence]

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What midfield issues haven't been adressed? Not signing another John McGinn? When was the last John McGinn we had before John McGinn? How likely is it that we'll find another one?

I will have a stab at trying to answer that mate and hazard a guess it was maybe John Collins who was the last before SJM that we had who came close. Some people really need to calm down a bit and face reality

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[Hibs90]

Just me that finds it bizarre that people can't see we need a couple of midfielders?

[J-C]

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Just me that finds it bizarre that people can't see we need a couple of midfielders?

No one's saying that, I think we're all in agreement that we need at least 1 possibly 2 midfielders.

[Brightside]

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Agree. Two more for me needed.



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2 more?? So we are getting rid of all our midfield except Gogic now? Wow

[Stanton Spence]

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Haha I don't disagree about that at all. I'd be fizzing!

It's just frustration on my part. I'm sure I'll be buzzing as soon as the next rumour comes along.

Och I'm the same bud and as much as it does my thrupney bits in tae I've just kinda hardened up to the fact that we are who we are and will lose out on probably most of our first choices season after season. I just try and not show it now after 40 odd years of going to ER

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[Peevemor]

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No one's saying that, I think we're all in agreement that we need at least 1 possibly 2 midfielders.

Probably, but anyone coming in has to be better than what we have otherwise they're a waste of a wage.

People that are better than what we have will attract interest and therefore competition from other clubs, including some who can pay more than us.

People have to appreciate that it's not just a case of Hibs deciding that they want a certain player or a certain type of player so they just go out and get one.

[Smartie]

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Just me that finds it bizarre that people can't see we need a couple of midfielders?

It’s clear as day.

Proportionate criticism of Hibs for not sorting this area yet is reasonable - whilst acknowledging that Gogic is a good signing, that we’re strong in all other departments, and that we already have several players who might be part of a very strong solution albeit unable to quite cut it themselves without being supplemented.