I don't doubt players like Duncan were quick. But there is no way they'll be faster than their counterparts like Boyle or Sproule in the modern era. Better training, footwear, playing surfaces, diet etc will see to that.
Compare sprinters times from the 60s and 70s to now, they are slower. Also even in as short a space of time as 40 or 50 years, humans physical attributes will have changed e.g. keepers are on average far taller than they were then.
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14-02-2020 03:00 PM #31
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14-02-2020 03:18 PM #32
Nijinski. Arthur was fast when it was still legal to tackle at waist height. Scotland cap when it was difficult to get caps and in my playground comparison a Scotland caps outranks an Australian one. Sure Ivan managed an NI Cap. Loved him and Boyle but both have a long way to go to match Mr Duncan.
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14-02-2020 03:29 PM #33
Sproule's the fastest I've seen. Remember seeing Arthur play a bit at the end of his career so obviously can't compare him to Ivan on that. Arthur I remember scoring seconds after kick off in one game at ER in the early 80s.
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14-02-2020 03:30 PM #34
Hard to say who i/ was the fastest, but Arthur Duncan’ had by far the best Hibs career. His goals scoring ratio was fantastic and he’s made more appearances for Hibs than any other player.
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14-02-2020 03:36 PM #35This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There was a period he was unplayable.
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14-02-2020 03:39 PM #36
Seem to remember Gareth Evans was no slouch
Arthur Duncan my first favourite Hibs player
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14-02-2020 03:56 PM #38
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For some reason thinking about Sproule brought back memories of Michael Hart, Aberdeen would regularly put him up against Sproule to nullify his speed as Hart had some pace, just our luck that when he signed for us his legs were well and truly gone.
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14-02-2020 04:04 PM #39
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Not the fastest, but I loved watching Crunchie, O'Neill and Harper in action. Weir wasn't at his best when I started going and I feel I missed out.
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14-02-2020 04:07 PM #40This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Duncan for me
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” Punchinello Rocks The Gers!”
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14-02-2020 05:02 PM #44
Arthur Duncan for me was the fastest winger i've seen, especially with the ball at his feet. Boyle has become a lot quicker with the ball, much quicker than Sproule ever was.
I'd say Sproule might have been quicker than Boyle in a race though, but put a ball in there and Boyle beats him hands down.
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14-02-2020 05:06 PM #45
Its Arthur for me. Loved watching him play (1979 SCF replay excepted!!).
Then its a tie between Boyle & Sproule. Maybe Ivan just ahead with the Ibrox hattrick. But not a lot to choose between them.
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14-02-2020 05:19 PM #46
For me, absolutely no question it's Arthur Duncan....He was a whippet as he whooshed down that left wing.... and he could score goals too.
Another poster said that modern players like Sproule, with better training etc were faster, but this is a nonsense, because we have to assume that Arthur Duncan, with improved training etc would be an even faster player than he was.
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14-02-2020 08:47 PM #48
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Little mention for Chris Humphrey.
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14-02-2020 09:00 PM #49
Alan O'Brien looked rapid, but surely has to be Sproule during his first spell.
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Sometimes on threads like this you get a lot of rose tinted spectacles. Were the Tornadoes a better team than todays? In the context of the day, yes. But if these teams played each other I would expect the current team to win. In the same way I'd expect an Andy Murray to defeat Fred Perry.Last edited by hibby rae; 15-02-2020 at 12:07 AM.
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15-02-2020 03:10 AM #53
Maybe it’s a generational thing
My father used to tell me the Famous Five were better than The Tornadoes
The Tornadoes would definitely wipe the floor with the current lot
Better organised better footballers every player a master of their position a better team imho
The Tornadoes were all different shapes and sizes not like today’s Adonis’s
Interesting too that all us oldies are instantly saying Arthur
There are plenty books and testimonials referring to Arthur’s speed and as others have said especially with the ball at his feet
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15-02-2020 03:28 AM #54
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Ivan was the fastest I have seen in the flesh, however I believe defenders now have better pace than in his time. We don’t seem to have had many pacey players. Motherwell seem to have a new 1 every season
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Older guys with today’s facilities, sports science, nutrition etc is a different story. But if it’s just purely an “as they were/are” scenario then teams now would be athletically miles ahead.
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15-02-2020 09:34 AM #58This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They're more interested in their hair styles and prancing about in coloured boots thinking they're superstars when the majority of them aren't worth a fraction of what they get paid.
Football used to be a mans game, it's not any more, and there are very few now who would survive playing back then and many more who would have had very short careers."The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it" - George Bernard Shaw.
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When you talk about it being a 'man's game', then yeah that is one thing that has changed. Think of the numbers of players back then who could have played for longer were it not for disgraceful tackles being allowed.
Do players receive a lot more protection these days? Yes. Is that a good thing? Overall, yes. Thank god it's no longer a man's game.
Considering the challenges going in on Boyle mid-week. If this was back then he would probably be targetted every week and, given his current injury history, likely would have to retire early.
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I agree about the more protection being given nowadays and think there are a lot of so called superstars now who would have had very short careers had they played back then."The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by those who don't have it" - George Bernard Shaw.
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