We battered Aberdeen 3-0 in Ross's first game against them less than a year ago. I'm finding it hard to understand how since then we find them so hard to lay a glove on.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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07-11-2020 07:51 AM #31
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07-11-2020 08:17 AM #32This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Central midfield for us is a massive issue - Newell while an excellent player at times isn’t made for a 4-4-2. Opposition teams and managers know that.
As others have pointed out there is no coincidence Aberdeen are ahead of us they spend more on wages and also have taken several players we wanted to sign.
I’m not a McInnes fan or think he will go onto bigger or better things but he seems pretty consistent in Scottish terms getting 3rd in the league. Many Dons are still fed up with him after games like last week against Celtic.
What frustrates me about last night is the limited reaction after the Derby. Losing a goal 5 mins in and then 2-0 away from home at half time is really difficult to turn around...let alone a place we haven’t won since 2012.
Derbies and Aberdeen games have to be addressed. Old Firm games are different as they are a free hit as they are so far ahead financially any points are a bonus.
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07-11-2020 08:54 AM #33
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07-11-2020 09:05 AM #34This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don’t think they’ll finish “comfortably” ahead of us this season, they’re favourites for 3rd, but that’s been the case the last 2 seasons too...and they’ve finished 4th in both of them.
Come the end of the season I would be absolutely amazed if there’s more than 4 or 5 points between us and Aberdeen. It’s a shame though, that for some posters, even if we end up 4th and only a point behind Aberdeen, it’ll be described as a failure.
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07-11-2020 09:36 AM #35
In answer to the OP, sadly it looks that way.
The 2 clubs of similar size and stature to us are Hearts and Aberdeen. Our results against these 2 clubs over the last 10 years and more has been nothing short of atrocious and is completely unacceptable. Our record at Pittodrie is one thing, but I think that's now 1 win in 11 or 12 games home and away against Aberdeen.
Yes Hearts and Aberdeen have been able to spend more money than us on players during that time, but the gap isn't so big to merit such an inept record.
I was optimistic when RG acquired the club, particularly after getting the monkey off our backs in 2016. I thought we'd go on to show more backbone and resilience. Seems to me now that the bad habits of the past are beginning to creep back in. We're becoming too nice again, and I think our recent recruitment, or lack of it, hasn't helped. We need players and coaching staff who have fire in their bellies and who can show the necessary aggression when needed to succed.
Aberdeen are an awful team to watch, but we are light years behind them as a club and playing squad in terms of mindset and resilience.
We have ability in the squad for sure and the Manager and team deserve credit for managing to beat the lesser teams in the league, but we are lacking the necessary leadership and steel at present to move to the next level.
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07-11-2020 09:43 AM #36
The problem is we’ve been trying to play aberdeen at their own game the last few seasons. I love doidge but there’s always a temptation to hoof it to him and aberdeen will eat that up all day.
The way to beat aberdeen is to play through them like we did in the 3-0 at easter road. Get guys like scott allan (obviously unavailable now i’m aware) on the ball and get passes in behind for guys like boyle to do the damage.
We used to play them off the park most games under lenny. Quite often we never got the result we deserved (league cup game at ER sticks out where we lost on pens) which maybe contradicts what i’m saying but at least we were dominating the game. We’re not even laying a glove on them these days.
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07-11-2020 09:47 AM #37
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OK, two bad results. But I'm more than happy with Hibs this season. Good singings, in difficult times remember, and lots to look forward to.
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07-11-2020 11:28 AM #38
Just checked and the last time we came back from a goal down to beat Aberdeen was February 2008.
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07-11-2020 12:41 PM #39This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And as I mentioned on another thread, not so long ago it was being touted as our best start in 50 years.
A knife edge result in our biggest game of the season followed up by poor decisions by players throwing away a nothing game and everything the manager has done the previous 6 months if forgotten is that right?
Some on here really need to take it down a notch.
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07-11-2020 12:58 PM #42
renew season ticket for what will we get exactly
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07-11-2020 01:04 PM #43
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I’d just like to see us try and play football the way it’s meant to be played . Pass and move. It’s really no that difficult but for some strange reason we have a team that really struggles with this concept.
I’ve been bored ****less watching us this season. I’ve lost almost all interest if I’m being honest. Sad times!
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07-11-2020 01:22 PM #44
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Of course the games against the OF, Hearts and Aberdeen are also important - not least because winning them leads to points and trophies - but also because winning them gives everyone a shot in the arm of self belief - from the the stands right through the first team squad to the boardroom. I don't think there's any Hibs fan who is happy at losing any of these fixtures, but it's inevitable that we will lose some of them. Under Ross' reign so far our record in that department leaves something to be desired it's true - I'm sure he wants victories in these games every bit as much any fan though and it's a bit early doors to conclude that he hasn't got the goods to deliver in these games.
PS - treating a draw vs the huns like a cup win?!? Dinnae be daft!
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07-11-2020 01:24 PM #45
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Unfortunately we really don’t have the squad members to fix the problem or so it would appear. No idea what the Allan situation is but if he’s not going to be involved we need to recruit (need money though)! Hopefully Kyle Magennis will settle in too.
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07-11-2020 06:08 PM #49
It seems we always seem to make some really bad mistakes against them, especially away from home which gifts them goals.
I agree with the poster above about how we beat them previously was was with speed and getting in behind - think even the Doidge game when he missed the 1v1s..he got in behind them.
I do think some players standards have dropped. No coincidence since the international break too..
The lack of depth and the team pretty much picking itself is an issue. We could really do with some players pushing for a starting place more like Hallberg etc.
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This place is worse than the Kerrydale Meltdown twitter page just now.
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09-11-2020 10:55 AM #54
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We're 7 points clear of 5th. Pretty big leap to call in command of 4th spot "mid table"
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09-11-2020 12:10 PM #55This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
It’s hard to plan for the kind of basic errors which effectively gifted them the game. Aberdeen are horribly effective at doing the ugly stuff and were never going to relinquish a two goal lead to Hibs. Hibs are at their most effective with swift counter attacking football.
It was game over after15 minutes.
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