Has chosen to play for England after playing for Ireland in 3 friendlies.
Just doesn't seem right.
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Thread: Declan Rice
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13-02-2019 08:21 PM #1
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Declan Rice
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13-02-2019 08:32 PM #2
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It's not! He will struggle to get caps for England
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13-02-2019 09:08 PM #3
Can’t get my head around it being acceptable for players to change their nation after 3 caps for another, even in non competitive fixtures, I think it’s a ridiculous rule. Another to thank Mr Blatter for I suspect.
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13-02-2019 09:15 PM #5
huge gamble that, with englands 379002371 million players he might end up just getting the one appearance in international football, if that
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13-02-2019 09:34 PM #6
Seems like a genuine kid, pretty humble from interviews I've seen. A good letter to explain his decision in some detail.
Good luck to him.
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13-02-2019 09:40 PM #9
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13-02-2019 09:45 PM #10
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He’s a fantastic player. I think him and Winks will be solid in the centre mid for England.
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13-02-2019 09:50 PM #11
From all that I've heard ( which isn't a great deal tbh) the boy feels Irish but because of greater and more lucrative prospects has plumped for england . On a side note there is another thread about a leeds player eunan okeefe and on his wiki page i noticed he playeed for ni up until 21s then switched to roi at 21s then full caps.no idea if its legit or not.
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13-02-2019 09:54 PM #12This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I do agree it should be one country but I'd be more cynical should it have been the other way round. The choice he's made will make future international football less likely.
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13-02-2019 09:59 PM #13This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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13-02-2019 10:24 PM #14This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Re his England chances, he's in with a shout and I expect he will move on from West Ham before too long.There's only one thing better than a Hibs calendar and that's two Hibs calendars
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13-02-2019 11:39 PM #15This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-02-2019 05:07 AM #17This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-02-2019 05:43 AM #18
I would love to have been a fly on the wall if he’d told the Repulbic Of Ireland management his decision when Roy Keane was still there.
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14-02-2019 05:50 AM #19This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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14-02-2019 05:54 AM #20This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
He qualifies through grandparents. The more players that do this to Ireland the better.
They should concentrate on developing players in their own country rather than hanging about kids in other countries trying to convince them to do something they’re not sure they want to do.
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14-02-2019 06:26 AM #21NamelessLeft by mutual consent!
I'm delighted someone has done this to Ireland, given the players they have poached from Scotland over the years.
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14-02-2019 06:44 AM #22
I mean, he was born in England and raised in England to an English mother, so can’t fault him for choosing to play for England really. The question I have is should the rule that let him play for Ireland have ever existed? Is having an Irish grandparent a strong enough connection to play for a country you’ve never lived in? Or should the country that raised you, shaped you and gave you your opportunites be entitled to and get first choice in playing you?
Of course in this diverse world, lots of people have dual nationalities. And in lots of cultures who for whatever reason struggle to integrate in countries they emigrate to, nationality is often a feeling rather than a fact. So it’s an ethical dilemma for FIFA to decide who can play for what country. Rice has been involved with the Ireland team since U16 level, so does that mean he owes them a commitment for the rest of his career? Maybe. I’d be raging if it happened to Scotland to be fair. I do think they should abolish the rule where friendlies don’t count - don’t think it’s cool to change countries once you already have a cap and it certainly muddies the waters.
Where I definitely have an issue is the likes of the Diego Costa situation - born and raised in Brazil, 2 appearances in friendlies for Brazil, yet only 5 years of living in Spain as an adult and gaining residency was enough for him to switch allegiances.
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14-02-2019 07:14 AM #24
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A lot of people willing to pontificate on the matter without knowing the lad's motivations. I don't either but might it be possible that he has always wanted to play for England but just never thought until now that it would be possible?
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14-02-2019 07:53 AM #25This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Rice at least has been able to step back and make the decision that feels right for him.
James McCarthy was another the Irish put under a lot of pressure and he too had to endure a will he wont he media circus
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14-02-2019 08:01 AM #26
I cant understand the need to criticise a player in this situation.
Some of the criticism seems to be along the lines of 'I have a different national identity to Declan Rice, what a bassa he must be'
Identity is a complicated thing. I could play for 4 international teams, if i was any good.
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14-02-2019 12:04 PM #27
He pulled on the shirt and sang the national anthem in friendlies, so he made his choice as far as I'm concerned. So are we saying friendly games don't count? So does Wayne Rooney get goals taken off his total as some of these were scored in friendlies?
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