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It won't be confidential for all those people in the stans .... if you are there then by default you have Had the vaccine. I have no problem with the rules in anyway BUT it should be applied to EVERYONE not just spectators.
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02-09-2021 03:01 PM #391
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02-09-2021 03:05 PM #392
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02-09-2021 03:07 PM #393
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As for what’s happening in England? Who cares what the over rated players elsewhere are doing?
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02-09-2021 03:09 PM #394
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02-09-2021 03:22 PM #396
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I also want a proper set of evidence and findings based on what if there were no fans, what if everyone was allowed and what if they restricted access to those who are double vaxxed. No need to ask for a set of figures to include those exempt on medical grounds or under 18 as they are clearly in the same field as those not double vaxxed. I want to know the differences in the three scenarios and if, as would seem obvious, having the 10k attend including the new rules would cause more cases than having no attendance why would that choice have been made but the line to be drawn exactly at 10K. It needs more explanation to me as I could head over to another event with 9999 attendees and not have to worry about a passport.
Like most of the rules around Covid it is knee jerk and not really well thought out and if citizens accept being governed with civil liberties being stripped after next to no consultation and seemingly without great thought then I suspect Governments will continue to do so long after Covid. The saddest thing is it looks like most would be quite content with that
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02-09-2021 03:25 PM #397
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Just rebooked my second jab for the 11th of September which is a few weeks before my original appointment.
Will I have enough time for a passport? Not really clued up on all of this and can't wait any longer to get back to Easter Road.
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02-09-2021 03:27 PM #398This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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02-09-2021 03:33 PM #399
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Fantastic post, this entire issue can ultimately be boiled down to misinterpretation of risk.
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02-09-2021 03:34 PM #400This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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02-09-2021 03:34 PM #401
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Regardless of the moral and other arguments and discussions there is also a practical side to this. How are stewards going to manage this, do they need to be double vaxxed too. What about Police and St John's staff and and the boy celebrating his 18th working in the pie stall. What if someone has been vaxxed in both England and Scotland. Should they be stopped using their ticket until the NHS Scotland up catches up or do we have stewards looking at two pieces of medical info on two apps. If I am exempt (again no idea what makes people exempt) what happens if I haven't got the paperwork yet. What about if I proudly show my certificate but it has my mates name on the ticket as he bought my ticket. There are hundreds of scenarios that make this very difficult to administer and we struggle with simple ticketing as it is.
I get the feeling someone in Government has said, I know how we can get more citizens vaccinated and then they have worked the numbers from there.
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02-09-2021 03:45 PM #402
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Over 10,000 people died again yesterday through coronavirus. Maybe its time to ditch the spurious objections, get on board with the evidence and accept steps need to be taken to offset the devastation this virus is causing.Last edited by CentreLine; 02-09-2021 at 04:04 PM.
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People currently employed who don't have one must be removed from public contact where possible, if not they are to be suspended without pay. They can't however be sacked.
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02-09-2021 05:40 PM #405This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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02-09-2021 05:45 PM #406This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
First game “back” Hibs v St Johnstone. (After all that, I have no idea when this law will come in.
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02-09-2021 05:47 PM #407
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Also, if the authorities want to avoid having a large group of non vaccinated (or non negative tested) people in the same place, then the only way to check is for everyone to show their pass.
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02-09-2021 06:07 PM #409
I’m double jabbed, I have the evidence. Getting the jab was no inconvenience, neither was getting the digital evidence and the paper copy.
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02-09-2021 06:17 PM #410
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02-09-2021 06:21 PM #412This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
the fans won't be sitting next to the players on the pitch
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02-09-2021 06:28 PM #413
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Talk me through the practicalities of 18-20 thousand having their passports checked at ER or 40-50K in the Uglies grounds. Now have a wee think about how many scenarios there are going to be for stewards to deal with. If I was a steward I'd be looking for another gig somewhere if this goes through. It is a hard enough job with ridiculous rules on rucksacks and electronic tickets that seem to take the huff once or twice a season but at least you were dealing with the exceptions. Now every single person would need to show a vax passport, confirm that matches with ST or ticket details and then some form of photo ID. Otherwise it is so easy to circumvent it is hardly worth the bother.
As to the points made of players being double vaxxed that should extend to every person in connection with the game for it to make any sense - police, stewards, catering staff etc etc.
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https://www.nhsinform.scot/covid-19-...ination-status
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02-09-2021 06:30 PM #415
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If anything is needed suspect it won’t be put in place until after the rugby matches in November
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Originally Posted by the tornadoe;[URL="tel:6680937"This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show QuoteLast edited by The dalmeny; 02-09-2021 at 06:51 PM.
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02-09-2021 06:47 PM #419This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
From what I've experienced here, the QR codes only take a second to scan (on any android or apple device) and this could easily be done in the queues for the turnstiles.
As for players being obliged to be vaccinated, for me that makes perfect sense, but nothing to do with contact with the public - simply doing their job every day while avoiding any risk to & from their colleagues should be reason enough.
As an aside, at the Lorient Festival a few weeks ago, Covid passports were required for the public but not the performers. However, once outside the venue, the performers had to stick to the same rules as everyone else.
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02-09-2021 06:49 PM #420
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