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    Castore - who?

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    The company Rangers have signed up with for their strips have 17 employees and one shop in London. Not even a Wikipedia page on them.

    They have never turned a profit. How the **** are they going to pull this off? Not a chance in hell they’ll be able to provide the amount of kits needed.


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    Never heard of them until Andy Murray signed with them a while back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    Apologies if this has been posted already somewhere.

    The company Rangers have signed up with for their strips have 17 employees and one shop in London. Not even a Wikipedia page on them.

    They have never turned a profit. How the **** are they going to pull this off? Not a chance in hell they’ll be able to provide the amount of kits needed.
    Started by a couple of scouse brothers in 2016, Andy Murray is a shareholder.

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    Murray owns a stake in them I think but they are tiny. It’s a reflection of where Rangers are that they have had to take a chance with this tiny company.


    Can they deal with the volumes of kits Sevco can sell? I have my doubts. Also, is Ashley out the picture this time or will they be back in court and end up being sued by this lot as well as Hummel/Elite.


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    Will Sports Direct weigh in as I seem to remember they had to be allowed to match any new supplier???
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    Interestingly, their website crashed today with all the interest. I doubt that would have happened to one of the major suppliers.


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    What price are they going to be retailing the kits at? Castore currently have a “performance t shirt” on sale at Harrods for a cool £125.

    https://www.harrods.com/en-gb/shoppi...E&gclsrc=aw.ds

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    It’s interesting sponsor.... they have a very small market and essentially they have just ruled out a massive population of there customers

    I’d imagine most Celtic fans for example will stay away even if they purchased before


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    Interesting.

    2 Companies who probably both need to take a large amount of a risk with each other. Castore need to take on the business to realise their ambitions and Rangers need a new kit supplier who has not much of an idea how much of a sh !t show their business is.

    It could work though. As long as Castore have very good manufacturing and distribution partners that's 90% of the battle. With the way modern business operates, there's no need to have hundreds of useless people in offices tapping away on keyboards.

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    McManus was saying on twitter the deal is worth £25million.

    I've never heard of them. Obviously the knuckle draggers are lapping it up but what's the catch?

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    Has Ashley just walked away from the deal? It seemed he had them bang to rights? Have they paid him off? All a bit strange

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    Seems strange that a player in the prestigious, high performance sportswear market would want their name associated with 40,000 unwashed, sweatshop produced tee-shirts.

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    Sure I read its a £20M deal but it was only realised by Castore receiving serious cash from various investors.

    This ain't gonna end well for this new company (castore) methinks. I just hope Andy was brought on board for publicity reasons only and he hasn't punted large amounts on these Scouse Del Boys.

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    Some of their stuff is quality, not cheap mind you!

    Be interesting to see what their new ‘tap’ looks like.

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    I'd imagine they'll be outsourcing the manufacturing to some Chinese Sweatshop, the same as most other kit manufacturers, so shouldn't be a big deal producing the new strips.

    Celtc and The Rangers sell replica strips in six figures. so there's going to be decent money to be made in it.

    It's not necessarily going to fail. Let's just see how it all pans out.

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    Apologies if this has been posted already somewhere.

    The company Rangers have signed up with for their strips have 17 employees and one shop in London. Not even a Wikipedia page on them.

    They have never turned a profit. How the **** are they going to pull this off? Not a chance in hell they’ll be able to provide the amount of kits needed.
    Hard not to know who they are when they have sponsored Andy M for last 2 years. It’s a good deal for Rangers. Something a bit different and a premium clothing brand. We aren’t talking Luke here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Hard not to know who they are when they have sponsored Andy M for last 2 years. It’s a good deal for Rangers. Something a bit different and a premium clothing brand. We aren’t talking Luke here.
    So it will be a bit like neds wearing Burberry?

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    They'll certainly not be making the shirts. Wonder who will? Probably same firm who make Hummel UK shirts, Slazenger etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by underscore View Post
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    Hard not to know who they are when they have sponsored Andy M for last 2 years. It’s a good deal for Rangers. Something a bit different and a premium clothing brand. We aren’t talking Luke here.
    If I take The Rangers out of the equation, I quite like the idea of new sports brands being introduced into football. The back story and Andy Murray link adds to the interest.

    I also know there were discussions with Hibs a wee while back but for the time being we remain with Macron.
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    When was the last time The Rangers had a legitimate kit deal? The seem to continually attract dodgy kit deals, usually ending up with court cases etc. Can't think of any other clubs who find themselves in the s*** that they do every other year.

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    Hard not to know who they are when they have sponsored Andy M for last 2 years. It’s a good deal for Rangers. Something a bit different and a premium clothing brand. We aren’t talking Luke here.
    Quite into clothing and had never heard of them. Doing some googling Murray's previous deals were working out around £3.5m-£4m a year. It's now £1m a year with Castore - that's a pretty good deal for Murray considering he's hardly hitting a baw.

    The pricing doesn't add upto me. Usually with regards to fitba tops you add the club logo to a garment and you add £20 onto it for the privilege. A basic gym castore top is £65-75 so with that logic you'd you'd be thinking a football jersey would be £85-95. If they're producing these for the usual £45-50 for a replica football shirt then Rangers fans aren't getting the same quality garment as castores other stuff or if they are then punters paying £65 for a gym t-shirt are being robbed.

    Either way its not changing anything. Good money for the huns. It will help them pull further away from 3rd place but regardless of what the journalists say a new deal worth upto £5m isn't gonna mount a title challenge - especially when Celtics new Adidas deal dwarfs it.

    I'd be intrigued to see how great the quality is. In the outdoor activity world Arc-teryx is known for producing the best fabrics and you can buy a basic hiking/gym t-shirt for £45-50 from them. World renowned with decades of experience.
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    So it will be a bit like neds wearing Burberry?
    exactly like that. They will dilute the brand for sure...but for now its a top end brand they are getting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EI255 View Post
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    When was the last time The Rangers had a legitimate kit deal? The seem to continually attract dodgy kit deals, usually ending up with court cases etc. Can't think of any other clubs who find themselves in the s*** that they do every other year.

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    I wonder if it's a cashflow thing – rather than doing normal kit deals like everyone else, they have oddly structured deals to get more cash up front.

    (That's total speculation obviously.)

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    Got some of their stuff. It’s incredibly well made kit. Also probably a bit too expensive.

    The rangers deal is a strange one for them as the typical hun couldn’t be further away from their original target market. I have a feeling they don’t know what they have let theirselves in for.

    Kinda wish they made our kit especially with the Murray connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EI255 View Post
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    When was the last time The Rangers had a legitimate kit deal? The seem to continually attract dodgy kit deals, usually ending up with court cases etc. Can't think of any other clubs who find themselves in the s*** that they do every other year.

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    Quite into clothing and had never heard of them. Doing some googling Murray's previous deals were working out around £3.5m-£4m a year. It's now £1m a year with Castore - that's a pretty good deal for Murray considering he's hardly hitting a baw.

    The pricing doesn't add upto me. Usually with regards to fitba tops you add the club logo to a garment and you add £20 onto it for the privilege. A basic gym castore top is £65-75 so with that logic you'd you'd be thinking a football jersey would be £65-95. If they're producing these for the usual £45-50 for a replica football shirt then Rangers fans are getting the same quality garment as castores other stuff or if they are then punters paying £65 for a gym t-shirt are being robbed.

    Either way its not changing anything. Good money for the huns. It will help them pull further away from 3rd place but regardless of what the journalists say a new deal worth upto £5m isn't gonna mount a title challenge - especially when Celtics new Adidas deal dwarfs it.
    I think they will be more expensive than other teams tops... £60+ Reality is the football kit will not be of the same quality....they must be subbing that out to someone as they dont make football kit at the moment. Castore market has been aimed at tennis / athletic types upto now. High end, not mass produced. Jumping into this stuff will change that and I imagine they will lose the high end market and eventually end up bargain bucket but sell millions on the way. A very similar journey to the likes of Lyle and Scott, Pringle etc. Suddenly you will be able to buy Castore tshirts in TK Max.

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    I think they will be more expensive than other teams tops... £60+ Reality is the football kit will not be of the same quality....they must be subbing that out to someone as they dont make football kit at the moment. Castore market has been aimed at tennis / athletic types upto now. High end, not mass produced. Jumping into this stuff will change that and I imagine they will lose the high end market and eventually end up bargain bucket but sell millions on the way. A very similar journey to the likes of Lyle and Scott, Pringle etc. Suddenly you will be able to buy Castore tshirts in TK Max.
    Reckon you'll be right.

    Guess there is a reason the premium designer sports brands (Lacoste, Hugo Boss & Ralph Lauren etc) stick to tennis and golf and havn't done football wear yet. Guess the logistics, QC and brand damage of getting 100,000 football tops made and printed in a few weeks just isn't worth it.

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    I have a couple of their polos. Nice stuff, but now if I wear them, people will assume I'm a sevco fan

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    I have a couple of their polos. Nice stuff, but now if I wear them, people will assume I'm a sevco fan
    Thats a huge issue for them imo. Its not the same as having an adidas or nike top. Castore will now be known as a Rangers brand and just a generic polo top will be looked at like part of the Rangers leasure wear. Big gamble for them.

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