We need to be top four and qualifying for Europe consistently. Don't think we've ever achieved that in my lifetime. In saying that i don't think we should be looking back the way as a comparison. We need to continue to move forward. We're creating our own standards and expectations as we go and should always be aiming to do better than the previous season. A trophy would be an added bonus.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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09-08-2021 09:32 AM #211
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09-08-2021 09:46 AM #212This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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It would be easier if you laid out your criteria for measuring success and see how people respond to that.
I feel a cup win is far more memorable than most league seasons, that's what my best Hibees memories are based on and why I was so utterly gutted that the team threw their chances away last season. However, we move on and the past is gone.
Ross is building something good at Hibs and so he should be with the resources and backing given.
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09-08-2021 09:56 AM #214
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A couple of bad results and you’ll be all over him again …
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09-08-2021 10:04 AM #215
I’d be happy with a 3rd place finish again this season. Think the leagues stronger this season than last. Aberdeen looking better and hearts also had a decent start.
FWIW I wasn’t a big Jack Ross fan and thought our performances weren’t great last season but very impressed with what I’ve seen so far this season. Our tempo looks night and day.
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09-08-2021 10:05 AM #216
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It is an exciting period at the club and the squad does look really good with the depth we now have especially midfield which looks promising. I do think if we can get to the group stages of Conference League that would be unreal and a different kind of success.
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09-08-2021 10:06 AM #217
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09-08-2021 10:07 AM #218
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Successful period? What's been achieved?Last edited by Allez Hibs; 09-08-2021 at 10:33 AM.
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09-08-2021 10:18 AM #219
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I want a manager who gets us the next step to winning trophies on a semi consistent basis and gets us playing good football, finishing high up the league and winning more derbies than not.
Ron has put us in a great position to achieve that. The club are in the position to kick on in a very long time.
So far this season Ross has silenced my doubts. I'm really enjoying the football and looking forward to watching us. I'm very happy with that for now.
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09-08-2021 10:22 AM #220This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Back to Ross, it’s good to see everyone on board this season. The style of football and not particularly enjoying last season were my main reservations. I’ve not seen all the games, but the ones I have I’ve very much liked what I’ve seen. A proper midfield and a team playing with tempo while not looking like it is at the expense of results or competitiveness. I still don’t think we’re clinical or ruthless enough to be a really top team, but we’re not far away IMO.
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09-08-2021 10:34 AM #222
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Then it's up to the manager (JR) to take that forward and achieve our goals. I know we were in a good place before he took over but it does feel like our recruitment and budget has been given a lift by RG.
A much much more extreme version is Man City. Their targets now are not based on historical league placing - it's the here and now. We are of course no where near as changed but I think its fair for JR to be set high standards.
I'll admit in hindsight I was too harsh. I don't recall wanting him gone but I was really angry after the SC final. But this season has been electric and long may it continue. There are bigger tests to come though.
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09-08-2021 10:34 AM #223This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
OK JC led us to a League Cup win - I still think JR is a far, far better manager.
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09-08-2021 11:05 AM #224This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Here's hoping we can continue in the same direction.
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09-08-2021 11:09 AM #225
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09-08-2021 12:00 PM #228
I think last season he consolidated what we had and probably over achieved a bit to get 3rd, I expect 4th was our aim. Tactics were probably set to make us solid and to get us as high as possible, the next step has been taken. We've added Doyle-Hayes and had a good pre season for Magennis, with Allan as an option, tactics have changed to be more attacking and the players seem to be loving it, far more freedom in their play. Well done Jack Ross, onwards and upwards.
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09-08-2021 12:04 PM #229
Totally agree with the points about not judging Ross based on the failings of other managers. I’m sure Ron Gordon hasn’t come in and said because historically we’ve failed to regularly finish in the top four and qualify for Europe we won’t bother setting these as realistic targets.
I’ve had concerns about Ross, but the start of this season and more so the style of football has me really encouraged. Couple that with the feeling that we are totally serious about investing in the playing side for one of the few if any periods in my lifetime.
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09-08-2021 12:19 PM #230This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There were plenty on here saying give 'Hecky" more time, be patient etc when it was clear he was a dud.
Let's just enjoy it now.
Not having a go at you here, but there seems to be a few posters trying to stir things up with folk who weren't jumping for joy last season. Can not just enjoy things and look forward instead of casting stuff up?
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09-08-2021 12:24 PM #231This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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In my opinion, you give managers time when you can see improvement.
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09-08-2021 01:33 PM #236
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Hecky has won an English Premier League game as manager. I'm pretty sure Jack Ross would love to do that and have ambitions to do so.
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09-08-2021 01:43 PM #239
Hecky made a couple of fatal mistakes.
I don't actually think he's a bad manager, but it was correct that he was launched when he was.
He's exactly the type that you could see going on to succeed elsewhere and make us look daft, but it wasn't going to work out for him with Hibs and we're much better off with who we've got (even if Jack Ross has his flaws.)
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09-08-2021 01:45 PM #240
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