I think the point is that locking people up or even just giving them a criminal record for minor drug offences is counter productive. It tends to send folk on a downward spiral - likely leading to more drug use rather than less.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Thread: Conner Duthie 2 year ban
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11-02-2020 05:57 PM #91
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11-02-2020 06:05 PM #93
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There is a major prize for the first person to mention drug dealers on street corners. Honestly some of the views on here are straight out of Reefer Madness, or the Man With the Golden Arm.
What.Harm.Did.The.Lad.Do?
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11-02-2020 06:10 PM #94This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Tell it how it is!
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11-02-2020 06:12 PM #95This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I said alcohol had the same repercussions and consequences.
Quite probably more.
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11-02-2020 06:12 PM #96This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-02-2020 06:16 PM #97
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Rediculous punishment. Career ending ban for smoking a joint. Deary me.
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11-02-2020 06:17 PM #98This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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11-02-2020 06:25 PM #99
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The WADA committee that reviews and updates the list of prohibited substances is made up of eminent sport scientists, medics and pharmacists from all around the world of sport and they discuss this just about every year. They are spliffed...I mean split on cannabis, but the majority favour it remaining banned. But maybe they'll take note of the hibs.net view next time.
"He misjudged the likelyhood of it"
If he is dependent I would dare to suggest that he didn't misjudge anything.
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11-02-2020 06:32 PM #100This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
As for Conner's own relationship with weed, that's for you to speculate, I'm personally not that interested.
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11-02-2020 08:22 PM #101
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For others to say “they” don’t know what they are doing or have not considered all there is to consider about cannabis use by sportsmen/women just demonstrates immense ignorance.Last edited by Greenbeard; 11-02-2020 at 08:24 PM.
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11-02-2020 08:26 PM #103This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Personally I’d end all prohibition, but cannabis being illegal is preposterous. Even America is realising this - why can’t we?
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11-02-2020 08:30 PM #104
Ridiculously harsh. It is hardly 'performance enhancing' and not like what Garry O was getting up to. Silly but the punishment doesn't fit the crime here.
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11-02-2020 08:38 PM #105This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
WADA create the list of prohibited substances and it's not exactly consistent what national enforcement agencies do to punish it. A two year banning order for cannabinoids is seriously disproportionate. It's about safeguarding athletes and maintaining fair competition, so why aren't alcohol and tobacco on their list? Legality.
Nobody said 'they don't know what they're doing,' folk are well within their right to disagree with the listing of a highly debated banned substance.
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11-02-2020 09:20 PM #108This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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I actually agree that two years is harsh for cannabis use (as do some on the List committee) but it's a two-year starting point which can be reduced if a player/athlete can demonstrate "no significant fault" - down to as little as a reprimand. Clearly the judges in this case, who have had all the facts of the case before them (assuming Duthie was full and honest with his evidence), decided there was significant fault. That being the case, their hands are tied by the globally accepted and consistent sanctions applied by the WADA Code. That consistency safeguards athletes across the sporting world and ensures a level playing field for all across all sports and all nations. This is the cornerstone of the WADA Code. There is no going back to a free-for-all where some countries take a more lenient attitude to drugs in sport, including drugs which have different legal status country to country. BUt he did get some leniency in recognition of him admitting his offence. This allowed his two-year sanction to be backdated to the date the sample was collected rather than the date he was charged, so effectively a two-month reduction. Paul Daniels might have something to say about that.
For others, drop the non-performance enhancing aspect of cannabis in this case. It is irrelevant to this case (no mention in the judgement) and echo echo echo there are other criteria for its inclusion on the banned list.
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11-02-2020 09:34 PM #110
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12-02-2020 04:31 AM #111
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Every club must have teams of people telling them how to maximise their chances of making it - but I guess when you're 16 - 20 you just don't want to hear it.
Or you follow the drinking squad - or Finn Russell etc.
But there's guys in my running club who won't drink for 6 months before their big race - and they're just normal guys who work in an office, with none of the help that a footballer gets.
It's probably my age. Just say no.
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12-02-2020 07:17 AM #112
Bans just right, too many folk especially youngsters think they can get away with anything nowadays. Deserves everything he gets. Fed up hearin hes young, the bans too long, its about time kids in Scotland realise you need to work hard to make it. Nae pity for him or others, and aye its not performance enhancing, but either is alcohol.
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12-02-2020 07:19 AM #113
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I'm genuinely curious what possible harm can alcohol do to the body six months before a race? Sounds a bit like an ego trip to me.
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12-02-2020 07:31 AM #114
Alcohol is far far worse for you.
I find people over the age of around 50 very hypocritical when it comes to their ignorance around how bad alcohol is , to themselves and society , but at the same time think every drug is the devil.
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12-02-2020 07:33 AM #115This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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12-02-2020 08:11 AM #120
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