Who's responsible??

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:19 AM

Was thinking about poor windows we have had.
And I was thinking this definitely ranks up there with the worst.
In terms of improving the team we have already.
Chris Maxwell-marciano competition

Adam jackson-defensive cover

Tom james-right back cover

Josh vela-midfield energy/DM/starter

Christian doidge-stiker option

Joe newell-left midfielder/not winger/debatable starter

Scott allan-attacking mid/ top player

Glen middleton-loan/winger/boyle cover

Other than scott allan none of them make my best hibs 11 with current squad.
People talk about meltdowns on .net but when you review our window so far it's not surprising.

Based on this being head hunted recruitments it simply is shambolic.

Whoever it is they should not be near anymore transfers for our club be that management or recruitment.

**Barman Stanton** · 15-08-2019 10:25 AM

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Was thinking about poor windows we have had.
And I was thinking this definitely ranks up there with the worst.
In terms of improving the team we have already.
Chris Maxwell-marciano competition

Adam jackson-defensive cover

Tom james-right back cover

Josh vela-midfield energy/DM/starter

Christian doidge-stiker option

Joe newell-left midfielder/not winger/debatable starter

Scott allan-attacking mid/ top player

Glen middleton-loan/winger/boyle cover

Other than scott allan none of them make my best hibs 11 with current squad.
People talk about meltdowns on .net but when you review our window so far it's not surprising.

Based on this being head hunted recruitments it simply is shambolic.

Whoever it is they should not be near anymore transfers for our club be that management or recruitment.

Still think its way too early. Need to let these guys settle in, get used to the abusive Hbs support etc..

Vela for example comes highly rated. Played a lot of games in the Championship and Bolton fans seemed gutted he left. Also not played in a while so needs a bit of time to get match fit.

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:29 AM

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Still think its way too early. Need to let these guys settle in, get used to the abusive Hbs support etc..

Vela for example comes highly rated. Played a lot of games in the Championship and Bolton fans seemed gutted he left. Also not played in a while so needs a bit of time to get match fit.

None of them look like troubling anybody in our best eleven though,scotty aside ofcourse.
I hope folk are rubbing this thread in my face when these guys come good.but im quite confident it wont be the case.

**~~Captain Trips~~** · 15-08-2019 10:31 AM

Nobody is responsible for signing good or bad players as they have not been here long enough to do either.

**Barman Stanton** · 15-08-2019 10:36 AM

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None of them look like troubling anybody in our best eleven though,scotty aside ofcourse.
I hope folk are rubbing this thread in my face when these guys come good.but im quite confident it wont be the case.

They have pretty much just arrived. People need to lay off a bit with the constant abuse and try and get behind them. If this forum had been running Hibs then I'm sure Ivan Sproule would have been punted well before he hit his Ibrox hattrick.

Its half a new team we have there. Likelihood is not all will be a success, but the non stop criticism after 2 league games is bonkers.

***Moulin Yarns*** · 15-08-2019 10:41 AM

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Was thinking about poor windows we have had.

CR Smith, Sidey, Everest?

**Blaster** · 15-08-2019 10:45 AM

James - short term cover / long term replacement for gray
Jackson - as above for McGregor
Vela I expect to come good
Maxwell - back up keeper

Newall and Doidge. Disappointing starts but too early to write off

Middleton I expect to be good

Simply a strong central midfielder and a striker short

***Groathillgrump*** · 15-08-2019 10:45 AM

Middleton hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. Have you written him off too?

I know football fans aren't noted for their patience but despite the hiding we took on Sunday we need to give the new guys a chance to settle in to a new environment and fit into a different style of play.

I think it's far too early to be making judgements on individuals. Ask the questions again after we'ved played a full round of fixtures and we'll all have a clearer picture.

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:45 AM

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They have pretty much just arrived. People need to lay off a bit with the constant abuse and try and get behind them. If this forum had been running Hibs then I'm sure Ivan Sproule would have been punted well before he hit his Ibrox hattrick.

Its half a new team we have there. Likelihood is not all will be a success, but the non stop criticism after 2 league games is bonkers.

As I say I hope your right.

Normally new signings inspire team dynamics,or you say so and so will need to up his game to stay in the team.

Not really abusive to call it as you see it.
And say signings will struggle to push anyone out the team.

And this thread is generally about who is being let loose with the purse strings.and imo signing players that simply are going to struggle at hibs.

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:46 AM

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CR Smith, Sidey, Everest?

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**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:47 AM

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Middleton hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet. Have you written him off too?

I know football fans aren't noted for their patience but despite the hiding we took on Sunday we need to give the new guys a chance to settle in to a new environment and fit into a different style of play.

I think it's far too early to be making judgements on individuals. Ask the questions again after we'ved played a full round of fixtures and we'll all have a clearer picture.

I expect middleton to do well,but ultimately he's not ours.

**~~Marvellous~~** · 15-08-2019 10:48 AM

2 games into the league season

**HoboHarry** · 15-08-2019 10:51 AM

Another thread telling us about something that's wrong at Hibs. Cool.

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:52 AM

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Another thread telling us about something that's wrong at Hibs. Cool.

Sly dig cool 👍😎

**Barman Stanton** · 15-08-2019 10:53 AM

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As I say I hope your right.

Normally new signings inspire team dynamics,or you say so and so will need to up his game to stay in the team.

Not really abusive to call it as you see it.
And say signings will struggle to push anyone out the team.

And this thread is generally about who is being let loose with the purse strings.and imo signing players that simply are going to struggle at hibs.

Your asking who is responsible for 'one of the poorest windows we have had'. After 2 league games. Its honestly way too early. I could fill a page with players who have taken time to settle in at the club.

**SquashedFrogg** · 15-08-2019 10:56 AM

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Another thread telling us about something that's wrong at Hibs. Cool.

Bizarre. 2 games in and people can't cope.

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 10:59 AM

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Bizarre. 2 games in and people can't cope.

Its hardly bizarre to have an early impression on your teams performance/signings.

**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 15-08-2019 11:00 AM

I think another winger added to a central midfielder and striker is much needed. If Middleton and Horgan get injured we are back to square one until Boyle is back.

**MWHIBBIES** · 15-08-2019 11:00 AM

James isn't right back cover. Whittaker is cover for James because Gray is never fit.

**MWHIBBIES** · 15-08-2019 11:02 AM

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I think another winger added to a central midfielder and striker is much needed. If Middleton and Horgan get injured we are back to square one until Boyle is back.

You cannot think like this or you end up with 40 players. If Marciano and Maxwell get injured were also buggered but we don't need a 3rd goalie. Times comes where you actually have to assume guys will actually be fit.

**SquashedFrogg** · 15-08-2019 11:02 AM

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Its hardly bizarre to have an early impression on your teams performance/signings.

Sure. But when an early impression is to predict the future then I'd call it bizarre.

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 11:02 AM

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James isn't right back cover. Whittaker is cover for James because Gray is never fit.

If grays fit neither start at rb imo.

**~~Hibeesmad~~** · 15-08-2019 11:03 AM

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You cannot think like this or you end up with 40 players. If Marciano and Maxwell get injured were also buggered but we don't need a 3rd goalie. Times comes where you actually have to assume guys will actually be fit.

Unfortunately our history with injuries doesn’t fill me with confidence

**tonyrougier123** · 15-08-2019 11:08 AM

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Sure. But when an early impression is to predict the future then I'd call it bizarre.

Im calling it as I see it now though 😕.
Look this is a thread to talk football,and opinions about our signings.try and deal with that pal eh! I know its hard for some of yous on here but you can always post on another thread instead of dragging this thread to the gutter with irrelevance.if you dont agree or can't constructively add to the title of the thread. Pipe doon 😯👍

**Barman Stanton** · 15-08-2019 11:09 AM

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Bizarre. 2 games in and people can't cope.

Not sure if it’s society in general or football fans but the lack of patience Iv seen lately is unreal.

**Blaster** · 15-08-2019 11:12 AM

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James isn't right back cover. Whittaker is cover for James because Gray is never fit.

Was more thinking of the thought process at the time of signing him

**WeeRussell** · 15-08-2019 11:15 AM

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I think another winger added to a central midfielder and striker is much needed. If Middleton and Horgan get injured we are back to square one until Boyle is back.

I don't think many teams will plan for the eventuality of 3 people who can play one position being injured at the same time though. Middleton has just come in, we won't be signing another in that position.

***One Day Soon*** · 15-08-2019 11:15 AM

There is no question that our squad is not yet strong enough in some key positions and that almost all of those players we have signed are in the 'I hope he turns out to be decent' category rather than the 'Wow, we've got Scott Allan' category.

I don't expect us to be instantly like Mowbray's best team or the best of the Stubbs and Lennon eras. However I'd like to be able to feel that I can see some stirrings of a style of play, a shape to the team, the emergence of some key figures from youth and our new signings that give confidence we will arrive at the other end of the season a good deal stronger than we started it. Right now, taking together the tail end of last season, our signings and how we have started I can't honestly say that I feel any confidence about that.

Perhaps the next couple of months will change this.

***One Day Soon*** · 15-08-2019 11:17 AM

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Not sure if it’s society in general or football fans but the lack of patience Iv seen lately is unreal.

Some of it is lack of patience, most of it is simply discussing what we have been seeing so far on recruitment and early performances and concluding that it isn't very encouraging.