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    Cadbury made his first ever choccy egg in 1875....same year my beloved hibees were formed....

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    The lyrics of Bohemian Rhapsody contain the title of the song that knocked it off number one - Mamma Mia.

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    Espresso has nothing to do with being quick to make or drink. It's to do with being made at high pressure, "pressed out".

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Espresso has nothing to do with being quick to make or drink. It's to do with being made at high pressure, "pressed out".
    Does anybody think it did mean anything to do with being quick, would that not be linked to (what should be in the pet peeves thread) people who pronounce it 'expresso'

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    Does anybody think it did mean anything to do with being quick, would that not be linked to (what should be in the pet peeves thread) people who pronounce it 'expresso'
    Don’t get me started on people who say ‘choreetszo’ instead of ‘choreeso’
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Don’t get me started on people who say ‘choreetszo’ instead of ‘choreeso’
    Chu-reeth-oh surely?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    Chu-reeth-oh surely?
    Thats more like what I was meaning, thanks for that
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    Surely it’s Cho-ritz-oh 👍😁

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    The phrase the bees knees to describe something as good comes from a mistranslation of Italians saying business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Thats more like what I was meaning, thanks for that
    Ok. Question.

    Crossword today. Clue is "people do this with espresso and paella ".

    The answer is "mispronounce", which I had to Google as it was ripping my knitting.

    I get that many people get "paella" wrong, but "espresso "? What's your thoughts on the correct way to pronounce it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Ok. Question.

    Crossword today. Clue is "people do this with espresso and paella ".

    The answer is "mispronounce", which I had to Google as it was ripping my knitting.

    I get that many people get "paella" wrong, but "espresso "? What's your thoughts on the correct way to pronounce it?
    E......Spresso

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    E......Spresso
    Which is the way I'd say it.

    What way do others say it? Or maybe it's the expresso mentioned above, which I can't say I've ever heard used 😁

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    That’s why I have an americano. Or a black coffee as we used to call it 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    E......Spresso
    What he said. Very soft and short on the 's'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    Ok. Question.

    Crossword today. Clue is "people do this with espresso and paella ".

    The answer is "mispronounce", which I had to Google as it was ripping my knitting.

    I get that many people get "paella" wrong, but "espresso "? What's your thoughts on the correct way to pronounce it?
    That's nothing. You're on about people in the UK mispronouncing foreign words. At least people are making an effort now which wasn't always the case.

    What's worse is when you live abroad and you have to deliberately mispronounce English words and names in order to be understood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    What he said. Very soft and short on the 's'.
    I'm not getting this then 😁

    How could folk mispronounce it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I'm not getting this then 😁

    How could folk mispronounce it?
    It is curious.

    I would guess that different languages create different ways of shaping one's mouth and pronunciation tendencies, and that may become evolutionary over centuries, and essentially force people to mispronounce 'foreign' words, unless they make a determined conscious effort. In English, the letter 's' following a vowel tends to be stronger, I think. Latin languages are different from Slavic languages, for example, so there are words of each that both the other sides struggle with.

    English, as we speak it, is a bit of a mongrel language - it fascinates me that a lot of the words for meats are derived from French, but the words for the animals are derived from the Anglo-Saxon, reflecting that after the Norman Conquest, the rich could afford to eat meat but the poor only farmed it.

    For what it is worth, I can't say 'library' without a very conscious effort. It comes out as 'librarary' unless I really focus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    That's nothing. You're on about people in the UK mispronouncing foreign words. At least people are making an effort now which wasn't always the case.

    What's worse is when you live abroad and you have to deliberately mispronounce English words and names in order to be understood.
    Gets me everytime. I remember one occasion a few years back when I ordered a Big Mac and the service girl asked me if I meant "a beeg meck". I probably overreacted.

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    What are the right and wrong ways to say paella?

    I can see how someone might say expresso instead of espresso. I'm not even sure which I'd say naturally without thinking about it in all honesty.
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    What are the right and wrong ways to say paella?

    I can see how someone might say expresso instead of espresso. I'm not even sure which I'd say naturally without thinking about it in all honesty.
    Wrong would be PIE-Ella or pa-Ell-la , correct would be pa-EH-yah.

    I don't really think it's that big a deal though. People mispronounce words that are foreign to them regularly. I'd be more inclined to forgive someone who mispronounces paella or cerveza than I would be some guy in a Celtic away top bellowing 'TWO LAGERS AND A PLATE O CHIPS' at the top of his voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    Wrong would be PIE-Ella or pa-Ell-la , correct would be pa-EH-yah.

    I don't really think it's that big a deal though. People mispronounce words that are foreign to them regularly. I'd be more inclined to forgive someone who mispronounces paella or cerveza than I would be some guy in a Celtic away top bellowing 'TWO LAGERS AND A PLATE O CHIPS' at the top of his voice.
    Pa-EH-yah... Yep, I've been getting that wrong for a while.

    Agreed with the bottom paragraph, it's all about the effort more than the execution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by danhibees1875 View Post
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    What are the right and wrong ways to say paella?

    I can see how someone might say expresso instead of espresso. I'm not even sure which I'd say naturally without thinking about it in all honesty.
    In my opinion people who get hung up on pronunciations of words from a different language need to get out more. The only thing that really matters is that the person you are speaking to understands what you are asking for. Never once have I had a problem when requesting Pie Ella.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee View Post
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    In my opinion people who get hung up on pronunciations of words from a different language need to get out more. The only thing that really matters is that the person you are speaking to understands what you are asking for. Never once have I had a problem when requesting Pie Ella.
    Me neither. Although I was in Ella's Pie Shop at the time...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peevemor View Post
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    What's worse is when you live abroad and you have to deliberately mispronounce English words and names in order to be understood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye View Post
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    Don’t get me started on people who say ‘choreetszo’ instead of ‘choreeso’

    I am very good at Spanish pronunciations. It seems to come naturally. I can shift into the tongue curl ' Z ' as in chorizo easily.

    BTW I have never understood why the Spanish has the lisp it has. I have read of conformity to the Habsburg (?) lisp but I still am not convinced.

    Any ideas?

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    The phrase the bees knees to describe something as good comes from a mistranslation of Italians saying business.
    Shut the front door!!!

    Is this a whoosh??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    Shut the front door!!!

    Is this a whoosh??
    I saw that exact fact on QI last night.

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    Chu-reeth-oh surely?
    The "th" sound is limited to mainland Spain. Some parts of southern Spain, Canary Islanders and pretty much all of Spanish speaking Americas sound "z" and soft "c" as we do in English.

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    Pa-EH-yah... Yep, I've been getting that wrong for a while.

    Agreed with the bottom paragraph, it's all about the effort more than the execution.
    It's a Catalan word. Catalans always say "ll" like the "y" in "yam" unless there's a "." inserted, like in "paral.lel" as in the Avinguda del Paral·lel in Barcelona.

    There, that was useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    It's a Catalan word. Catalans always say "ll" like the "y" in "yam" unless there's a "." inserted, like in "paral.lel" as in the Avinguda del Paral·lel in Barcelona.

    There, that was useless.
    Mallorca probably being the obvious example.

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