I see the papers are running with the story that Ron wants to bring back alcohol sales at football.
I was at the AGM and don't recall him mentioning it at all so the timing of this seems strange considering the ambitious plans laid out last night.
Having said that, I agree with what he's saying. Football is taxing itself, forfeiting money it can't really afford to be giving away.
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Thread: Bringing back alcohol
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27-02-2020 08:36 AM #1
Bringing back alcohol
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27-02-2020 08:42 AM #2This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Most people at football would behave themselves perfectly well if they were having a drink at games.
A minority wouldn't.
Depends on whether you're willing to take the risk from the second group.
p.s. I'm not saying don't do it, just that there's possible consequences.
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27-02-2020 08:49 AM #3This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Doesn’t stop folk getting rat arsed before games at present, because they feel they have to tank up before they get to the ground. This has the prospect of reversing that culture for most as they know they’ll get a couple of pints during the game.
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27-02-2020 08:58 AM #4
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Would help the atmosphere too. Who doesn't like a wee sing song after a couple of pints?
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27-02-2020 08:59 AM #5
I dont think the drinks ban really affects the likes of us v ross county or livi. It affects every game the bigot brothers play, and for that reason i dont believe we will see it back soon.
They cant be trusted, so the rest of us pay the price.
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27-02-2020 09:00 AM #6
Drinking at the football is allowed now to all intents and purposes. I could currently go to the stadium a couple of hours before the game, enter the stadium, buy multiple alcoholic drinks, leave the stadium then enter the stadium again by a turnstile located 10 yards from the door I have just exited and that's apparently fine. The current laws are a nonsense.
Let's be honest people who can't handle a drink and behave like bams do so even with the current legislation in place. There are, off the top of my head, about 10-15 pubs within a 10 minute walk of ER. Add to that people drink at home, drink on trains, drink on buses etc etc. People who act like total dicks are a tiny minority and we should be challenging them rather than penalising the hundreds and thousands of people who can enjoy a couple of pints and behave properly. Are that majority going to start behaving like raging lunatics because they can have a pint in the concourse before a game? Is Hibs v St Mirren on a Tuesday night suddenly going to become like an Istanbul derby?
Personally I could take or leave a pint at the game. I go to the Iona if I have a beer before the game at the moment and the lure of a pint of Carling at ER probably wouldn't change that. It should be an option for those that want it though.PM Awards General Poster of The Year 2015, 2016, 2017. Probably robbed in other years
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27-02-2020 09:03 AM #8
If the bars were just open pre match for an hour and at half time I think that would be a good litmus test.
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27-02-2020 09:29 AM #9
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27-02-2020 09:38 AM #10
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27-02-2020 09:42 AM #11
Depending on when the purchasing of alcohol was allowed, this would maybe work best with a standing section. Shuffling past people on a terracing is fine.
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27-02-2020 09:50 AM #12
On the odd occasion when I'm not driving home after a game I prefer to drink in the pubs because of the crack and I get to drink the beer I prefer to drink.
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27-02-2020 09:57 AM #13
Imo having the option to get a pint in a plastic cup behind the stand would cut back on people sneaking in glass bottles, which can later turn into a weapon.
Equalling alcohol with bad behaviour isn’t looking at the bigger picture.
Bad behaviour still happens when you can’t get a drink at the ground so maybe getting a drink in the ground isn’t the common denominator of trouble the powers that be seem to think it is.
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27-02-2020 10:06 AM #14
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27-02-2020 10:08 AM #15
I think alcohol should definitely be allowed at the games. I think it would make very little difference, as it stands people who want to drink at games will just drink beforehand, in fact they will probably drink more to make up for lost drinking time during the game.
Won't bother me personally if it is or not, if the price of food at the games is anything to go by then you'll be looking at about £6 a pint.
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27-02-2020 10:11 AM #16This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So having a pint to watch the game won't actual happen.
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27-02-2020 10:49 AM #17
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Maybe we should suggest this to Ron (hope link works)
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27-02-2020 10:52 AM #18
Will alcohol be on sale in the away dugout for the Derby?
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27-02-2020 10:55 AM #19
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£5 a pint or whatever it'll be. I'd rather stick to the boozer or a carryout
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27-02-2020 10:58 AM #20
Disposable / reusable plastic pints or bottles? I guess the trick is to pioneer with partners who demonstrate capability, get exposure and reap rewards through dealings with other clubs on the know-how on all things green.
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27-02-2020 11:01 AM #21
Its not a straight forward thing to do . If they sold bevvy to the fans at say Hibs v Ross County i doubt there would be many issues . If they did it at a derby or old firm game , or us V the huns its gonna be utter carnage
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27-02-2020 11:03 AM #22
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Open the bars 1 hour before kick off. No issue. Pished people will still be pished people.
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27-02-2020 11:06 AM #24
It should definitely be allowed, but not at certain games.
We all know the flashpoints - games with the OF and derbies, add more alcohol to the mix there and you'd probably have trouble. Or certainly, the next bit of inevitable trouble at one of those games would be blamed on the alcohol.
It won't happen because all of the games involving the OF would be high risk games, their wouldn't get to drink so would kick up fuss would prevent everyone else from doing so (whilst still having their Bucky-fuelled marauding and singsongs on the road).
Basically any game where there is the need for a "dry train" to get to the game, there shouldn't be alcohol on sale at the ground.
I quite like a pint on the concourse when I go to game in England.
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27-02-2020 11:16 AM #25
I'm guessing they don't mean during the game.
We have the BTG bar, and we tried the Beer Tent in the East when the refurb was going on, and I quite liked that. The amount of wasted space under the East could easily accommodate something like that, and if it closed at the same time as BTG then what's the issue?
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27-02-2020 11:16 AM #26
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It's a tricky issue at a time when the political focus is on curbing Scotland's drinking culture.
However, we're not talking here about going back to the 70s when fans could literally roll up with bag-full of of cans and bottles to take on to the terracing. That was largely before my time (or at least before I started drinking!) but when I was younger I would often meet up around lunchtime, or even earlier, for a few pints pre-game and I kind of saw the match as a break from the booze before heading back to the pub after the game.
These days, with kids in tow, I rarely drink before games, but I can see how the match-day experience could be improved if we introduced bars around the stadium. It would have to be done well, however. A warehouse-like atmosphere featuring huge queues for pints in a plastic glass isn't going to entice folk out of the pubs. It needs to be an environment, possibly including a decent food option, where fans feel they can relax and enjoy the build-up in a similar way to a family-friendly pub IMHO.
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27-02-2020 11:17 AM #27
It’s probably because we’ve went so long now with an alcohol ban inside football grounds that so many would be against reintroducing it, or probably more so why so many aren’t that fussed either way. Those that enjoy a beer before games are well facilitated and have our own routines by the many options near Easter Road. The bigger picture is about encouraging more fans along, and improving facilities inside the stadium and upgrading the stadium and improving the fan experience in a more modern venue with better quality and options of catering, so I’d argue that providing the sale of alcohol goes hand in hand with that.
When alcohol was permitted in grounds prior to the Old Firm riot in 1980 it was carry outs of cans and bottles. Sales of low strength beer in plastic tumblers (reusable with the green initiative..) from the kiosks is a far more controlled and safer environment.
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27-02-2020 11:34 AM #28This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Changing, rather than curbing, is what it is all about.
I'm probably going to drink before and after the game on Friday for the first time this season and tbh I'm really quite looking forward to it.
As regards drinking at the football, encouraging folk to drink responsibly in a ground is surely every bit as sensible as forcing them to cram as much down their necks as possible prior to games?
I'm comfortable with the idea of Hibs profiting from folk having a couple of pints once a fortnight.
It's interesting to see how it is done on the continent. Wee pop up bars around the grounds in Germany are great (when the sun is shining) and it would be magic to think Hibs could do something similar, a bit like that tent that they did in the past.
A barbecue selling stuff like burgers and hot dogs along with a bottle bar could be brilliant, and shouldn't be beyond us being able to organise.Last edited by Smartie; 27-02-2020 at 11:38 AM.
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27-02-2020 11:36 AM #29This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I wonder if there's a hospitality loophole that can be exploited?...... Only hospitality members can buy alcohol but membership is only £1 and it's included in every adult ST.
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27-02-2020 11:36 AM #30This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Actually, they do this at Saracens.
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