Steven Fletcher was in a different class to Oli and comparisons are not going to do Shaw any favours.
I think maybe people are getting a bit carried away with Oli's two goals last week. I really hope he does kick on and become a success for us but I have my doubts.
Like many young strikers, he came in and had an immediate impact, then struggled a bit when he was no longer an unknown and defenders knew how to dominate him.
I'm afraid I don't place him anywhere near the bracket of guys like Deeks, O'Connor, Griffiths and Fletcher, although I'd honestly love him to go and prove me wrong.
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15-01-2020 11:43 AM #31
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15-01-2020 12:00 PM #32
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While not in Fletch's class, I think there is a decent player in there. He needs his confidence built up as much as anything else and will needs a decent run of games though so that he feels like he's a first choice striker that won't be dropped to the bench if he misses a few chances. He won't get that at Hibs though so he needs to go on loan.
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This is true, although he still needed first team experience to develop. Fletcher often played wide initially, as it was recognised he wasn’t yet strong enough to play centre forward.
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15-01-2020 12:35 PM #38
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I am not saying Old is as gifted as Fletcher and for sure his ball control lacks something but I still think weights would help ...Fletcher certainly had his critics early days always loosing his footing I clearly recall he was easily pushed over when very young..
whatever Hibs decide I wish Oli well in his career......players that show 100% should not be discarded without careful thought first.
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I remember the amount of stick he used to get for moving the ball to his favoured left foot, and people went on about 'one footed players never being good enough'.
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His development has stalled and a decision needs to be made one way or the other. I think he could be a player for us but he hasn't started a league game for over a year and has only played 282 mins of league football in the last year scoring two and assisting with two goals all of which came when he was given a decent run of 40 minutes or so. He is a very productive player when given a chance. He hasn't been given anywhere near enough game time in my opinion considering Boyler's injury and large chunks of time where Flo and Doidge have been poor.
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I can't make up my mind about Shaw as I haven't seen him play consistently enough to give him a fair judgement.
That's 2 managers now, however, who have worked with him every day and he hasn't even managed to push himself into regular appearances from the bench, even when our regular strikers were off form. I get the feeling that he will be allowed to leave either now or in the not too distant future.
I personally would like to see him loaned out for the rest of the season to a championship team, preferably one at the top end who will create chances for him, and see if he can gain some confidence before returning in the summer.
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I don't wish an Aberdeen player scores against Hibs, I've never said that. Wrong again (shocker)
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Scored the winner not too long after as well.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ht-relief.html
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I don't know why he hasn't been playing, certainly isn't related to his performances before being dropped IMO
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15-01-2020 06:23 PM #50
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Amazing how some players need a run of games after about 4 yrs whilst others manage to get on our worst ever lists after less than a dozen games.
Shaw is a strange one. Has some ability but seems to be something missing.
Being a Hibs centre forward should mean something so no harm in a young local player not quite being up to it.
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15-01-2020 06:29 PM #51
As well as having a clear pathway to the first team and actually giving youngsters the game time that is needed. I think we also need to be more ruthless in moving on youngsters who have been around for a long time and not kicked on after initial promise.
Stanton, Handling & Harris were all kept longer than they should have been IMO. I think we’re also now past the time to move Murray & Shaw on. Although all might have valid grounds for complaint about how their progression was managed. Be it coming into a shambles of a club, or not being given the game time needed to progress.
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15-01-2020 08:06 PM #52
Fletcher had and has wonderful technique so no slight on Shaw and therefore a pointless and unfair comparison.
Shaw's development has stalled. Not his fault, just not quite good or strong enough to be a Hibs striker at the moment.
I would suggest none of us on here know his current level due to a lack of consistent game time over the last 12 months.
Next step is getting the likes of McNulty in and allowing Shaw to go on loan.
St Johnstone should be knocking Hibs door down to get him on loan.
Their strikers are appalling and I reckon Oli could make his mark there.
A bit of success, a bit more experience and he might just be ready for us in August.
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For the sake of Shaws career he either gets a run of games now ,or he gets a move to a club where he will play.
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15-01-2020 09:31 PM #55
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Or you think Shaw wasn’t hung out to dry by Lennon playing upfront on his own or with a Lewis Allan.
Or you think that Shaw doesn’t need a run of games or a move to another club....can’t be all of the above.
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15-01-2020 10:03 PM #57
Fletcher was a class act
Yes he got criticism early doors because everything had to be on his left peg and he was easily shoved off the ba initially but he grew up with the golden generation and he had the same swagger and confidence in his own ability that they had and he learned from his peers playing along side the likes of Deeks Broonie and Thomson and like them if he got knocked down he bounced up and went back for more
That 2007 League Cup Final side was some team
I do not remember him as being an out and out striker maybe playing on the left as part of a midfield or a front two or three up front with a sweet left foot and could take a mean direct free kick
By 19 he had scored two goals for HIBS in a National Cup Final going on to be capped by Scotland 33 times scoring 10 goals and being sold to Burnley for 3m He would eventually total 21.5 m in transfer fees
Fletcher and Olly Shaw are two totally different players
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Doidge is the better player.
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