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    Josh Vela - No heart No passion No desire

    The lack of heart and desire by Vela to win a 50:50 lead to the goal 2 minutes later.

    Offers absolutely nothing in the midfield, runs into crowded positions where passes are not on.

    He is as good as a man down.


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    I actually forgot he was on the park for a bit, he was not involved at all today apart from a couple of headers

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    The new Matt thornhill. Absolutely rotten.

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    Does seem a bit lost, was expecting more from him to be honest.

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    The new Matt thornhill. Absolutely rotten.
    Fair description tbh.

    He will be playing for Hamilton when he finishes taking decent wages off us for three years.

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    Hes just a nothing player. Does nothing well. Does nothing horrendously. Just the defintion of meh.

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    He may not have those qualities (and I agree with you) but more importantly he isn't a good football player - you need the basics and he doesn't have them not does he excel at them as a midfielder. Lacks fitness, lacks positional awareness, lacks effort. Without those, you could be the most technically gifted footballer ever yet still fail - and he has failed in abundance. As has Newell when I've seen him - similar traits - doesn't do the basics of football well and if you don't your natural talent with the ball won't flourish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allant1981 View Post
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    I actually forgot he was on the park for a bit, he was not involved at all today apart from a couple of headers
    As did I.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90+2 View Post
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    Fair description tbh.

    He will be playing for Hamilton when he finishes taking decent wages off us for three years.
    and they'll still get the better of us more often than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fife-Hibee View Post
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    and they'll still get the better of us more often than not.
    Sadly, aye.

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    Vela is very much indicative of the mediocrity of the summer signings at the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FifeHibs View Post
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    The lack of heart and desire by Vela to win a 50:50 lead to the goal 2 minutes later.

    Offers absolutely nothing in the midfield, runs into crowded positions where passes are not on.

    He is as good as a man down.
    Dreadful today but was positively dynamic compared to James who looked as if he just didn't want to be there.

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    I'd love the recruitment team and management to explain the thinking behind the Vela signing, to think we had a midfield of McGeouch, McGinn and Allan not so long ago..

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    Add to that no final product, no leadership qualities, no physical presence.

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    The lack of heart and desire by Vela to win a 50:50 lead to the goal 2 minutes later.

    Offers absolutely nothing in the midfield, runs into crowded positions where passes are not on.

    He is as good as a man down.
    Said the same thing. The mess before the penalty and his attempt or lack of attempt to win the ball was a joke.

    Watched him during 2nd half at times and I honestly think he is faking it at times. Hiding from ball and not tracking runners.

    Add in the constant sideways passes we have a very average player.

    Made Liam Craig look good a few weeks ago. Simply not good enough for us to move forward.

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    and they'll still get the better of us more often than not.
    Still? We'd won the last 4 Vs them before today.

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    If I remember correctly the guy came here with the reputation of being a once very promising player who then lost his passion and desire for the game. It sounds like his circumstances have not changed. Another dubious signing in other words.

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    He will be moved on in Jan when new manager comes in.

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    Pretends he wants the ball and hides behind the opposition.

    One of the most in effectual centre mids we have had in years.

    Terrible signing

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    I don't like singling players out, but what role does this guy fulfill in a football team?

    Is he a defensive midfielder, or was he signed to link the play between defence and attack?

    He can't get about the park sharply enough to close players down, he doesn't dovetail with the forwards, and he doesn't have a big pass on him, so i'm actually baffled as to what he's meant to be doing - I wonder if our manager could tell us, as he obviously signed him for a reason???

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    I honestly have no idea how good a footballer he is or he is not. Vela never seems to be involved on the pitch in anything noteworthy and the game passes him by. His desire and motivation appears to be 0%, which in part could be due to having such an uninspiring Head Coach.

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    I said exactly the same after our last home game, runs up and down without really doing anything.

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    3 year deal as well.

    Id imagine he would be one of our highest earners as well.

    He will be away hame not giving a **** about our club.

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    I said exactly the same after our last home game, runs up and down without really doing anything.
    Noticed it his first game for us.

    Even felt Slivka actually offered more but thought he wasn’t match fit so would surely get sharper.

    Now several games later I’m struggling to see what our unbalanced midfield actually bring to the table.

    We would have been better with

    Bartley

    Allan Mallan

    Or even 3-5-2

    Milligan and Bartley

    Allan

    With wide players and 2 strikers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbo6-2 View Post
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    3 year deal as well.

    Id imagine he would be one of our highest earners as well.

    He will be away hame not giving a **** about our club.
    Too many of these wasters got long term deals from us. Our recruitment has been a shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenCastle View Post
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    Noticed it his first game for us.

    Even felt Slivka actually offered more but thought he wasn’t match fit so would surely get sharper.

    Now several games later I’m struggling to see what our unbalanced midfield actually bring to the table.

    We would have been better with

    Bartley

    Allan Mallan

    Or even 3-5-2

    Milligan and Bartley

    Allan

    With wide players and 2 strikers
    Someone posted a link to Bolton fans site and it didn't make great reading, Boltonhibs didn't have good things to say about him and he's seen him a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Someone posted a link to Bolton fans site and it didn't make great reading, Boltonhibs didn't have good things to say about him and he's seen him a lot.
    Sure BoltonHibs took abit stick for saying it too.

    Few folk need to wake up and smell the coffee. Our manager and the players he has brought in are not good enough.

    Setting aside Heckys really poor development of our youngsters which in itself is a sackable offence, his time here has been a disaster.

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    An absolute passenger today. Did he touch the ball in any way positively?

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    He'll not be moving up in the world after us that for sure.

    3 year deal? 50 appearances max.

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    I gave our recruitment team the benefit of the doubt as each summer signing became known.

    I tried to rationalise my initial gut feeling that we were buying "a poor-to-average standard player who would struggle in the SPL" by telling myself that the professionals at our club knew better than me.

    Besides which, what were the odds of the bulk of the signings being that bad, and of Heckingbottom failing to drill them into a formidable, hard-to-beat, entertaining, high-pressing and high-scoring team?

    Now, months down the line, as we sit with but one league win under our belt, I can see that I was right to feel "initially underwhelmed and disappointed".

    It also beggars belief that Leeann not only sanctioned these signings but commited our club to honouring long-term contracts to boot.

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