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    I see the Daily Record (yes, I know) are reporting interest from Everton in John McGinn. Seems unlikely but we might yet get some of that sell on clause!
    Please happen!


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    He is their captain and is a good guy to have around the place, can’t see it happening unless they have other players lined up
    If they can get £20m for him this summer it would help offset a lot of their potential PSR issues. They've just been fined £10m and have another £10m one waiting if they don't fix up their ins and outs. Selling someone like McGinn would effectively be pure profit for them.

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    Villa are about to embark on redeveloping one end of their stadium and the wider area around that side of the ground. Over £100M required for that project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby View Post
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    Villa are about to embark on redeveloping one end of their stadium and the wider area around that side of the ground. Over £100M required for that project.
    They could do with redeveloping that stand we were in, underneath was a complete tip, seemed way to little space for the amount of people it held.

    It was like our old stand.

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    I wouldn't say it worries me but it certainly irks me every time we qualify for Europe. Our stated aim every year is to qualify for Europe but when we do it our qualifying ties are so early that our squad is always incomplete. It kind of defeats the purpose of trying so hard to qualify.

    This year, for once it looked like we would go in later and have the final pieces of our squad in place until Aberdeen scuppered that.
    To be fair, I doubt anyone has a complete squad for a European tie in July and over a month of the transfer window still to go. I do feel like we are in a much better place to be competitive this time round, even if not having Triantis or his replacement concerns me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs View Post
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    They could do with redeveloping that stand we were in, underneath was a complete tip, seemed way to little space for the amount of people it held.

    It was like our old stand.
    Yes I think that's the Doug Ellis stand? where the away fans are housed. I believe that stand is to be renovated but it's the sand behind the goal where 7,000 extra seats are going and that end will be more enclosed.

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    SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

    It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    To be fair, I doubt anyone has a complete squad for a European tie in July and over a month of the transfer window still to go. I do feel like we are in a much better place to be competitive this time round, even if not having Triantis or his replacement concerns me.
    We also effectively have a potential Triantis replacement for the short term in Manneh. The only difference is he was signed in January instead of the last week or two which should give him a head start if he has to play beside say Levitt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

    It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.
    I’ve always thought Spurs would be an ideal fit for SJM, think their midfield needs more energy and bite. Think it’s his favourite ground too. Can’t see him leaving Villa though, he’s idolised there as he is here.

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    Definitely comes in to the no ******** category.
    Someone on twitter saying Triantis is holding out for a deal with Celtic.
    Think the boy is at it. Triantis agent has said the next move has to be playing regularly as he was with us. That doesn't happen at Celtic. What a way to jeopardise any World Cup hopes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    We also effectively have a potential Triantis replacement for the short term in Manneh. The only difference is he was signed in January instead of the last week or two which should give him a head start if he has to play beside say Levitt.
    From the limited experience of watching him and his highlights from previous clubs I don't think he looks that similar in style to Triantis, definitely don't think he will be the long term replacement. He doesn't really look to have the power and pace to drive the ball forward which Triantis does so well. Looks more like a player who keeps the ball moving quickly and looks to regain possession quickly in the middle of the park.

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    We also effectively have a potential Triantis replacement for the short term in Manneh. The only difference is he was signed in January instead of the last week or two which should give him a head start if he has to play beside say Levitt.
    I haven’t seen enough of Manneh yet but I’d much rather see Mulligan in midfield with one of the players you mention . A midfield with Levitt and Manneh I think might lack a bit of dig/ strength.

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    SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

    It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.
    I agree. As others have mentioned the financial rules also make it more possible. Being the wrong side of 30, I don’t think it’s out of the question they sell him before his contract is up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    SJM starts most games for Villa but is almost always first one yo be subbed.

    It seems unlikely he would move but not impossible if he wants more game time.
    I always had a feeling SJM would start to struggle a bit in the EPL by the time he hit 30 simply because of the way he plays, which is probably why Villa sub him so frequently these days, his work rate is mental.

    Everton have spent a fortune on Bramley Moor Dock and IMO the target for the next few seasons will be to stay up, they've flirted with relegation for the last few seasons and to go down could turn that money spinning stadium into a millstone around their neck. If you are looking for players up for a battle SJM is probably the first guy on your list and £20 million or so to get 2 or 3 years out of him would probably be money well spent in that context.

    SJM is set for life money wise, so if Villa were to tip him the wink that he isn't guaranteed a start any more I could see him leaving Villa for regular football, especially to play in the inaugural season of what is, internally at least, a magnificent stadium, in a city that is a football hotbed to boot.

    I can see him ripping it up in a Merseyside derby and the Everton fans loving him, just as he is at every club he has played for
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    Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.

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    We have a strong 11 just now with a decent bench too. We just need a little sparkle, probably in the form of loans.

    Ideally, Triantis is the main target just now.

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    Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.
    St Mirren also get part of any profit don’t they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay View Post
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    We have a strong 11 just now with a decent bench too. We just need a little sparkle, probably in the form of loans.

    Ideally, Triantis is the main target just now.
    and at least one big target man striker who scores with his head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.


    Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

    It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Aston Villa to Everton is a sideways step at best. A step down in recent seasons. Can't see that happening unless it's taken out of SJM's hands.
    For the reasons I gave above I could definitely see it happening. SJM is if nothing else a sensible guy and he will know where Villa want to be isn't going to include a player who is increasingly going to be on a downward trajectory. He has two years of his Villa contract to go and if Everton were to offer him a 3 year deal at near on the money he gets now, plus a far better chance of regular football, I don't think sentimentality over his love of Villa would get in the way of pragmatism. There are far worse clubs than Everton for a player to finish his career at.

    As for being taken out of his hands. As fans of this club know only too well, taking matters out of the hands of any player under contract is a thing of the past. It will purely be his decision to stay or go.

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    You can see why villa might be keen as it is not too different than selling a player that came through the academy in the sense virtually 100% profit. But you would think it would need to be for way more than 20m otherwise hardly making a dent in ffp and still need to fund a replacement. I am hoping for 40m+… 🥳

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    Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

    It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.
    Its not club size for me that could make the move happen, its game time and where he fits into his managers plans.

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    Villa fans kinda split on the idea of selling SJM . Some don’t want to see Villa sell him while others think if they got an offer of £25mil plus for a player approaching 31 it would be a good deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

    It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.
    Not sure about that, he'll relish the extra game time and Everton have got shot of their old owner and have the steady hand of David Moyes as manager. I think Everton are going to improve over the next few years.

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    From the limited experience of watching him and his highlights from previous clubs I don't think he looks that similar in style to Triantis, definitely don't think he will be the long term replacement. He doesn't really look to have the power and pace to drive the ball forward which Triantis does so well. Looks more like a player who keeps the ball moving quickly and looks to regain possession quickly in the middle of the park.
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    I haven’t seen enough of Manneh yet but I’d much rather see Mulligan in midfield with one of the players you mention . A midfield with Levitt and Manneh I think might lack a bit of dig/ strength.
    I don't really disagree with both your points and while he probably isn't a like for like replacement for Triantis, I like to imagine if he's ever to actually make it here at Hibs then there will surely be a potential appetite to use him in the meantime. If that appetite isn't there 6 months into his stay and after a pre-season in a time without Triantis/Newell available and with the likes of Kwon and NMW both gone. You have to ask yourself if it will ever happen for him here at the club?

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    Three years at Everton and then off to Parkhead to finish up.

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    St Mirren also get part of any profit don’t they?
    St Mirren will get 33% of any money we make from our 15% sell on clause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    Struggle to see any reason why SJM would want this move.

    It was a sideways step years ago, it's 100% a backwards step now.
    There's a difference between wanting a move and realising it might be the best thing for your career. Villa are at a bit of a crossroads, they followed up a stellar season ( for them ) by finishing two places lower last season, and out of the CL places. If they are to kick on I simply can't see SJM being seen as integral to that ambition.

    Like it or not this is where SJM's career is now at, and at some stage every player ends up taking a backward step, even the very best. I fail to see how Goodison Park based Everton struggling against relegation would have been a sideways step a year ago, but has now become "100% a backward step" as they move into a brand new stadium with a capacity 10,000 higher than Villa Park, a support every bit as passionate, if not more, than Villa and a clean slate to start from, with a manager who is clearly a great fit for the club.

    There's thousands of players out there who wish they had a backward step like that on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    St Mirren will get 33% of any money we make from our 15% sell on clause.
    30%.

    Effectively we get 10.5% of Villa's profit and St Mirren get 4.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonshinyfinish View Post
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    30%.

    Effectively we get 10.5% of Villa's profit and St Mirren get 4.5%.
    So around 2 to 3 million quid ...... bring it on

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