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    Dundee grounds in 1922

    I came across this picture of Dens park and Tannadice today and it really is quite something. The two factories in the picture are both Jute mills and the workers worked a 6 day week finishing at 2.00pm on a Saturday. So when Dundee built their “new” ground in 1899 they situated it right next to the biggest factory, so the workers could head straight for the football after work. By 1909, the Catholic community decided they wanted to follow the lead of the mighty Hibernian FC of Edinburgh and set up a team called Dundee Hibernian. Their first match was a friendly against Hibs. This picture was taken a year before they changed their name to Dundee UTD in 1923 and as you can see there is no stand of consequence and the open countryside on one side of both grounds.

    i know most folk on here will know the history of “Dundee Hibernian” but it’s such a good picture I thought it was worth giving some historical background.

    if the pic is a bit small, here’s a link https://www.flickr.com/photos/192045...posted-public/

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    Amazing picture mate. Love football history generally and scottish football history specifically.

    Can't get enough of old photos like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia View Post
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    Amazing picture mate. Love football history generally and scottish football history specifically.

    Can't get enough of old photos like that
    cheers mate, here’s a link thst might help you see it better. https://www.flickr.com/photos/192045...posted-public/

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    That Dens Park main stand still looks the same to this day. Huge changes in the surrounding area since the pic was taken. Also love seeing this old stuff 🙌

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    The closest mill in that photo is still there.

    But can you spot anything interesting in this photo


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    Quote Originally Posted by badabing67 View Post
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    The closest mill in that photo is still there.

    But can you spot anything interesting in this photo

    railway station next to the ground that has since disappeared?

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    Bridge of doom....

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    Quote Originally Posted by badabing67 View Post
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    The closest mill in that photo is still there.

    But can you spot anything interesting in this photo

    A lack of Tannadice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caversham Green View Post
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    A lack of Tannadice?
    Is that not because that is a pic of ER? I’m not sure what question the poster of that photo is asking though.

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    Is that not because that is a pic of ER? I’m not sure what question the poster of that photo is asking though.
    Ah! I assumed it was Dundee because of the thread title, but I think you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badabing67 View Post
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    The closest mill in that photo is still there.

    But can you spot anything interesting in this photo

    SAW024456.jpg

    Am I right in saying that's the site of the original Hibernian Park?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pagan Hibernia View Post
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    SAW024456.jpg

    Am I right I'm saying that's the site of the original Hibernian Park?
    No, it was a bit further toward the top L corner of the pic.

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    Interesting for me is that the stands at ER and Dens both have that odd shape. Must have been the thing to do at the time.

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    Quite astonishing that a Premiership club still have the same stand as they did back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worcesterhibby View Post
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    railway station next to the ground that has since disappeared?
    The line is still there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Quite astonishing that a Premiership club still have the same stand as they did back then.
    Like top flight super-duper Super League Pittodrie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushwoof View Post
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    Interesting for me is that the stands at ER and Dens both have that odd shape. Must have been the thing to do at the time.
    A lot of Archibald Leitch stands were built like that- "cranked" they called it.
    The idea was that folk in the wing stands would get a better view of the far end of the pitch.
    The one at Dens has a particular crank because it was also following the angle of the road outside.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aubenas View Post
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    A lot of Archibald Leitch stands were built like that- "cranked" they called it.
    The idea was that folk in the wing stands would get a better view of the far end of the pitch.
    The one at Dens has a particular crank because it was also following the angle of the road outside.


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    Interesting character. It’s funny how Easter Road never seems to be mentioned when people talk about the stadiums designed by him but I think folk seem sure he did build the old main stand?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee View Post
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    Interesting character. It’s funny how Easter Road never seems to be mentioned when people talk about the stadiums designed by him but I think folk seem sure he did build the old main stand?
    Not sure I've seen proof either way. He did design the old Tynecastle main stand I think, and our old stand, built in 1926, certainly looked like a Leitch design, if not one of his premier efforts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee View Post
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    Interesting character. It’s funny how Easter Road never seems to be mentioned when people talk about the stadiums designed by him but I think folk seem sure he did build the old main stand?
    Quick check of ChatGPT threw this back so doesn't appear that our old main stand was one of his?

    Easter Road – Hibernian FC (Edinburgh)

    There is no definitive evidence that Leitch designed Easter Road in full, but:

    He may have consulted or advised on stand development.

    Early 20th-century improvements to the ground show stylistic similarities to his work.


    Dens Park – Dundee FC

    Designed in 1921 by Leitch.

    The main stand was one of his typical criss-cross steel-baled designs.

    Though modified, its structure reflected Leitch’s style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobo View Post
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    Quick check of ChatGPT threw this back so doesn't appear that our old main stand was one of his?

    Easter Road – Hibernian FC (Edinburgh)

    There is no definitive evidence that Leitch designed Easter Road in full, but:

    He may have consulted or advised on stand development.

    Early 20th-century improvements to the ground show stylistic similarities to his work.


    Dens Park – Dundee FC

    Designed in 1921 by Leitch.

    The main stand was one of his typical criss-cross steel-baled designs.

    Though modified, its structure reflected Leitch’s style.
    Maybe ours wasn’t then, stood the test of time though. Guess once Leitch had built so many others will have followed his lead

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trinity Hibee View Post
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    Maybe ours wasn’t then, stood the test of time though. Guess once Leitch had built so many others will have followed his lead
    That's the thing though, it doesn't say it was but can't fully confirm it wasn't.

    The old ER main stand certainly looked very similar to the design of the Dens Park stand so who knows?
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