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    How does the anti Palestine stance of the BBC tie in with them broadcasting live "death to the IDF" chants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    How does the anti Palestine stance of the BBC tie in with them broadcasting live "death to the IDF" chants?
    They've now edited it out as though it didn't happen, like Eric Blair said they did.

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    BBC balanced reporting


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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    BBC balanced reporting

    About par for the course, even the wording of the attack is as neutral as you could get under the circumstances

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    Quote Originally Posted by grunt View Post
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    BBC balanced reporting

    What's unbalanced about that? I'm guessing that's taken from the list of most-read stories on the BBC at that particular time? If so, it appears more people happened to be reading the Glastonbury story than the Gaza one. So what? The BBC can't dictate which stories people should read.

    Or do you think the headlines are somehow unbalanced? The criminal investigation is an established fact, which the BBC will have corroborated with the police so the headline is fair. The difficulty in obtaining accurate information from Gaza is well documented, so the BBC are having to rely on information provided to them from other sources ie they can't corroborate it as 100% accurate. Here again the headline is fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibspur View Post
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    What's unbalanced about that? I'm guessing that's taken from the list of most-read stories on the BBC at that particular time? If so, it appears more people happened to be reading the Glastonbury story than the Gaza one. So what? The BBC can't dictate which stories people should read.

    Or do you think the headlines are somehow unbalanced? The criminal investigation is an established fact, which the BBC will have corroborated with the police so the headline is fair. The difficulty in obtaining accurate information from Gaza is well documented, so the BBC are having to rely on information provided to them from other sources ie they can't corroborate it as 100% accurate. Here again the headline is fair.
    Headline 1: police will investigate whether a crime was committed by a couple of bands.

    Headline 2: criminal acts by Israeli forces on civilians is just an every day occurrence now.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns View Post
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    Headline 1: police will investigate whether a crime was committed by a couple of bands.

    Headline 2: criminal acts by Israeli forces on civilians is just an every day occurrence now.
    If you read my previous post, I've made the point that this isn't the BBC putting stories in order of what THEY think is most important. The stories are ordered in terms of how many people have chosen to read them.

    I note that that at present the most read story (ie the one in the No 1 spot) is the one about the dad jumping off a cruise ship to save his daughter.

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    Yeah, just what Hibspur saild. They’re from the list of top ten most read stories on the BBC website. The list constantly updates throughout the day.

    Here’s the current top 5. Sorry, I don’t know how to paste an actual pic of it.

    Most read
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    Three ex-bosses of Lucy Letby arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter
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    Father jumps off Disney cruise ship to save daughter who fell overboard
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    Chief rabbi attacks BBC for airing 'vile Jew hate' at Glastonbury
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete70 View Post
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    Yeah, just what Hibspur saild. They’re from the list of top ten most read stories on the BBC website. The list constantly updates throughout the day.

    Here’s the current top 5. Sorry, I don’t know how to paste an actual pic of it.

    Most read
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    Three ex-bosses of Lucy Letby arrested on suspicion of gross negligence manslaughter
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    Father jumps off Disney cruise ship to save daughter who fell overboard
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    Chief rabbi attacks BBC for airing 'vile Jew hate' at Glastonbury
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    Thai prime minister suspended over leaked phone call
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    Is RFK Jr's divisive plan to Make America Healthy Again fearmongering - or revolutionary?
    Why let the facts get in the way when you can bash the BBC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibspur View Post
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    If you read my previous post, I've made the point that this isn't the BBC putting stories in order of what THEY think is most important. The stories are ordered in terms of how many people have chosen to read them.

    I note that that at present the most read story (ie the one in the No 1 spot) is the one about the dad jumping off a cruise ship to save his daughter.
    It's not about most read stories on a website.

    It's about the perception of crime. Police investigate whether a couple of bands at Glastonbury committed crimes through their words and actions or just another murderous day in Gaza where yet more innocent people are killed by foreign soldiers occupying their land.

    You might be offended by what was said at Glastonbury but the whole world is offended by the murders of innocent Palestinians.
    There is no such thing as too much yarn, just not enough time.

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    It's not about most read stories on a website.

    It's about the perception of crime. Police investigate whether a couple of bands at Glastonbury committed crimes through their words and actions or just another murderous day in Gaza where yet more innocent people are killed by foreign soldiers occupying their land.

    You might be offended by what was said at Glastonbury but the whole world is offended by the murders of innocent Palestinians.
    You're missing the point. This thread is about supposed BBC bias. More people reading about the Glastonbury story than the Gaza story isn't evidence of bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by He's here! View Post
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    You're missing the point. This thread is about supposed BBC bias. More people reading about the Glastonbury story than the Gaza story isn't evidence of bias.
    Don’t think he is the big story is the genocide not whether a couple of musicians decide to make comment on it when the UK government as well most of the Western world either don’t comment or actively support the war crimes and genocide taking place. Highlighting the unbalanced BBC coverage is a reasonable comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimBHibees View Post
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    Don’t think he is the big story is the genocide not whether a couple of musicians decide to make comment on it when the UK government as well most of the Western world either don’t comment or actively support the war crimes and genocide taking place. Highlighting the unbalanced BBC coverage is a reasonable comment.
    Whatever you, I or anyone else thinks is the biggest story of the day has nothing to do with what proves to be the one most people choose to read on the BBC.

    I don't know what's proving so hard about this to understand for some posters. The original post showed a screenshot of what happened to be second and third most-read stories by the general public on the BBC website at that particular time of day. Just because more people were reading about Glastonbury than Gaza doesn't equate to BBC bias.

    If you take a look at the website now, the most-read story is the Lucy Letby one, followed by a story of house prices falling. At the time the Glastonbury and Gaza stories were number two and three the most-read story was the one about the dad jumping off the cruise ship to save his daughter. Are the people reading about that story biased because they prioritised it over a story about Gaza?
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    I think there are 2 different arguments going on here.

    Do I believe the BBC have upheld their duty of impartiality and balance when covering the story on Gaza? A resounding no.

    That's nothing to do with the order of the stories in the 'most read' column though. It's as it says on the tin really; that's a list in order of the most read stories on their site. You'll occasionally notice a story from years ago resurfacing in that section for whatever reason.

    I know it's not a popular thing to do but I think there are times the BBC deserve credit for pushing stories that don't feature in the most read section. A good example would be during the COP summits, 26 in Glasgow was notable. Not a single story from it featured in the most read top 10 but they kept it front and centre on the landing page and every section where it was relevant for days. I'm not convinced many, if any, commercial news outlets would do that if it wasn't getting clicks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibspur View Post
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    Whatever you, I or anyone else thinks is the biggest story of the day has nothing to do with what proves to be the one most people choose to read on the BBC.

    I don't know what's proving so hard about this to understand for some posters. The original post showed a screenshot of what happened to be second and third most-read stories by the general public on the BBC website at that particular time of day. Just because more people were reading about Glastonbury than Gaza doesn't equate to BBC bias.

    If you take a look at the website now, the most-read story is the Lucy Letby one, followed by a story of house prices falling. At the time the Glastonbury and Gaza stories were number two and three the most-read story was the one about the dad jumping off the cruise ship to save his daughter. Are the people reading about that story biased because they prioritised it over a story about Gaza?
    My only point was the real story is the genocide not what some singer said or what politicians choose to focus on rather than dealing with the real issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    How does the anti Palestine stance of the BBC tie in with them broadcasting live "death to the IDF" chants?

    I don't have a strong view on the alleged BBC bias from either side, but the BBC didn't know they were going to make that chant, so I don't really see it as evidence of 'impartiality' or whatever.

    As soon as they were made aware of it, they pulled the videos from iPlayer (which I personally think is fair enough)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    How does the anti Palestine stance of the BBC tie in with them broadcasting live "death to the IDF" chants?
    This is actually mental.

    They were broadcasting a live event, they didn't know what was going to happen, it was live.

    Can you, or someone, anyone please, explain to me why they should stop broadcasting a live event because of what's being sung on a music festival stage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by babahibs View Post
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    This is actually mental.

    They were broadcasting a live event, they didn't know what was going to happen, it was live.

    Can you, or someone, anyone please, explain to me why they should stop broadcasting a live event because of what's being sung on a music festival stage?
    If they were worried about anything like that happening, a 2 minute delay in broadcast would've worked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    If they were worried about anything like that happening, a 2 minute delay in broadcast would've worked.
    Yeah that works, I'm sure there's a delay in live radio broadcasts but it's not really my point.

    My point is why should they stop a live broadcast, it's a real live event.

    Isn't it their job to show what's actually happening, not some edited version?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    How does the anti Palestine stance of the BBC tie in with them broadcasting live "death to the IDF" chants?
    Not broadcasting Netenyahu's speech to the Israeli nation urging them to kill every Palestinian is more in line with that bias. But you continue to ignore that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    Not broadcasting Netenyahu's speech to the Israeli nation urging them to kill every Palestinian is more in line with that bias. But you continue to ignore that.

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    Netanyahu is not the only one making statements along the same lines. If the BBC have broadcast or reported them I have missed them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    It will be interesting to see what the BBC were afraid to let the public see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith_M View Post
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    It will be interesting to see what the BBC were afraid to let the public see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKHIBEE View Post
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    It will be interesting to see what the BBC were afraid to let the public see.

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