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    I think we certainly can make our money back, he's a fantastic player. But lets flip the thinking on it for just a second, he's now available for lets say an asking price of £1.5m after a standout break through season here. He's 22 so is a fantastic age for a lot of these clubs to take a punt on now, and as others have said there's a World Cup next summer to inflate his value potentially.

    Why are we so sure that there will be a massive line of clubs waiting to take him from us for double that price in 12/24 months, if they perhaps aren't already there in this window?

    As others have said it's a risk and the club will have to weigh up how much risk it's willing to take on. If the club are absolutely certain that at the very least they can get him tied down on a 5 year deal and have a great player for Hibs for 5 years and maybe beyond to help us reach our goals in that time then that's probably worth £1.5m on its own. But if the club are looking at it with the end goal of being flipping him for profit then there's a lot to consider and weigh up.


    People are making it sound like it’s a given that we’ll receive 150% or so of our largest ever transfer fee for him. We may well do, but it’s arguably much more likely we won’t.


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    I think we certainly can make our money back, he's a fantastic player. But lets flip the thinking on it for just a second, he's now available for lets say an asking price of £1.5m after a standout break through season here. He's 22 so is a fantastic age for a lot of these clubs to take a punt on now, and as others have said there's a World Cup next summer to inflate his value potentially.

    Why are we so sure that there will be a massive line of clubs waiting to take him from us for double that price in 12/24 months, if they perhaps aren't already there in this window?

    As others have said it's a risk and the club will have to weigh up how much risk it's willing to take on. If the club are absolutely certain that at the very least they can get him tied down on a 5 year deal and have a great player for Hibs for 5 years and maybe beyond to help us reach our goals in that time then that's probably worth £1.5m on its own. But if the club are looking at it with the end goal of being flipping him for profit then there's a lot to consider and weigh up.
    I want Triantis in as he is an outstanding player and not worried about financial return.

    It’s what he brings to the team that is key for me. He was the heartbeat of our team and dictated most of the games we played in that great run.

    We moan that we never hold on to our good players longer so if he stays longer than a season or two I will be delighted.

    Now people getting cagey about whether we will make our money back.

    For the record I think if we do sign him we will get a record fee back in a couple of years


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    So would be happy to swap Liam Scales for Rocky?
    A shiver up the spine thinking about Liam Scales in a hibs top.

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    Just catching up on today’s stuff. I’m surprised to see a few people suggesting we can’t or shouldn’t be stretching to 1.5m for Triantis. Its a no brainer for me. And we’ll make a healthy profit on that as well. No doubts. And I’m sure the Board will fully back the manager to make it happen. He’d be an incredible signing - but we’d maybe only get one season of him as a permanent Hibs player.
    I'd love to see us go to 1.5 million, just don't think we will as I think it is outwith our means. Think we were already stretching at 1 million. It's only 0.5 mill more but where does it stop, 2, 3? Huge potential for a bigger sell on with him but there is no such thing as a guarantee on it or any transfer. Not that making a huge profit would be the be all and end all by the way either, if he is a success the team are more likely to be and potentially make millions through Europe etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I think we certainly can make our money back, he's a fantastic player. But lets flip the thinking on it for just a second, he's now available for lets say an asking price of £1.5m after a standout break through season here. He's 22 so is a fantastic age for a lot of these clubs to take a punt on now, and as others have said there's a World Cup next summer to inflate his value potentially.

    Why are we so sure that there will be a massive line of clubs waiting to take him from us for double that price in 12/24 months, if they perhaps aren't already there in this window?

    As others have said it's a risk and the club will have to weigh up how much risk it's willing to take on. If the club are absolutely certain that at the very least they can get him tied down on a 5 year deal and have a great player for Hibs for 5 years and maybe beyond to help us reach our goals in that time then that's probably worth £1.5m on its own. But if the club are looking at it with the end goal of being flipping him for profit then there's a lot to consider and weigh up.
    There may well be other clubs interested in him, but can those clubs guarantee him European football and 1st team football? He gets that at Hibs and will likely increase his chances of further development.

    There’s a danger of chasing the money and playing a bit part role in another club, or stagnating his career.

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    The transfer fee is irrelevant, it's all about the payment structure. A 5-year deal at £300k a year is easily doable. If we sign him I'll be delighted because he is a very good player not because we've smashed our transfer record. I have faith in Ian Gordon when it comes to Hibs spending. He knows that mistakes have been made in the past and his family have righted them, including £7m this summer. That's more than anyone in the 150-year history of the club has put in. We won't repeat the same mistakes of the past because we are run differently

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    I want Triantis in as he is an outstanding player and not worried about financial return.

    It’s what he brings to the team that is key for me. He was the heartbeat of our team and dictated most of the games we played in that great run.

    We moan that we never hold on to our good players longer so if he stays longer than a season or two I will be delighted.

    Now people getting cagey about whether we will make our money back.

    For the record I think if we do sign him we will get a record fee back in a couple of years


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    I'm not that worried on what fee we'll get for him in 2/3 years. I would actually like it if he was at Hibs player for the next 10+ years and went on to captain us lift a couple of trophies etc. That to me would be a far better end goal for any signing than them going to a Watford etc for £3m.

    I obviously don't know the state of the books and the financial plan post the £7m loss. I think spending a seven figure fee is now in the realm of not just possibility but as others have said almost a necessity, especially from a place of strength like last seasons finish. But 'you'll make your money back' can't be the deciding factor on whether we pay that amount of money, it needs to be an added bonus within an acceptable level of risk for the club financially.

    You could argue any signing or spend could double our investment. If someone offered us a £5m valued player with the view of making £10m would we all be happy to mortgage the club against it? Of course we wouldn't. Whatever we're willing to pay for Nectar Triantis imo has to be of a value that we're ready to not see back in a future fee, and if we do then it's a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I'm not that worried on what fee we'll get for him in 2/3 years. I would actually like it if he was at Hibs player for the next 10+ years and went on to captain us lift a couple of trophies etc. That to me would be a far better end goal for any signing than them going to a Watford etc for £3m.

    I obviously don't know the state of the books and the financial plan post the £7m loss. I think spending a seven figure fee is now in the realm of not just possibility but as others have said almost a necessity, especially from a place of strength like last seasons finish. But 'you'll make your money back' can't be the deciding factor on whether we pay that amount of money, it needs to be an added bonus within an acceptable level of risk for the club financially.

    You could argue any signing or spend could double our investment. If someone offered us a £5m valued player with the view of making £10m would we all be happy to mortgage the club against it? Of course we wouldn't. Whatever we're willing to pay for Nectar Triantis imo has to be of a value that we're ready to not see back in a future fee, and if we do then it's a bonus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I'm not that worried on what fee we'll get for him in 2/3 years. I would actually like it if he was at Hibs player for the next 10+ years and went on to captain us lift a couple of trophies etc. That to me would be a far better end goal for any signing than them going to a Watford etc for £3m.

    I obviously don't know the state of the books and the financial plan post the £7m loss. I think spending a seven figure fee is now in the realm of not just possibility but as others have said almost a necessity, especially from a place of strength like last seasons finish. But 'you'll make your money back' can't be the deciding factor on whether we pay that amount of money, it needs to be an added bonus within an acceptable level of risk for the club financially.

    You could argue any signing or spend could double our investment. If someone offered us a £5m valued player with the view of making £10m would we all be happy to mortgage the club against it? Of course we wouldn't. Whatever we're willing to pay for Nectar Triantis imo has to be of a value that we're ready to not see back in a future fee, and if we do then it's a bonus.
    If this happens, he's not developed as we would have hoped.

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    Anybody know what time KO is for the MSV Duisburg next Wednesday

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    Anybody know what time KO is for the MSV Duisburg next Wednesday
    FFS, did you have to bring football into it?

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    People are making it sound like it’s a given that we’ll receive 150% or so of our largest ever transfer fee for him. We may well do, but it’s arguably much more likely we won’t.
    So the transfer market sometimes means taking a gamble. Who knew!?

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    We're we not going to be shopping in different supermarkets with being part of the Black Knight group? This is surely the first real opportunity to demonstrate this as part of the process we're learning to trust.

    Make it happen and let's keep building!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    So the transfer market sometimes means taking a gamble. Who knew!?

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    Exactly. And the gamble part is what makes it far from a given that signing Triantis will see us break our transfer record by a significant amount.

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    I predict Hertz announce Shankland staying over next couple of days and pretend it's because of Blooms investment.

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    No brainer, sign him, young guy with class written all over him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocaine&Caviar View Post
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    If this happens, he's not developed as we would have hoped.
    That would be a shame, winning a couple of trophies at the expense of NT not being good enough for Barnsley.

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    I predict Hertz announce Shankland staying over next couple of days and pretend it's because of Blooms investment.
    He certainly doesn’t appear on the face of it to have many suitors. I’m hoping he’s off though.

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    I predict Hertz announce Shankland staying over next couple of days and pretend it's because of Blooms investment.

    I think he will go to Rangers..... Based on just a hunch, he could already of signed if he was staying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    He certainly doesn’t appear on the face of it to have many suitors. I’m hoping he’s off though.
    Think a move away all went wrong when Hearts got greedy and tried to sell him by the kilogram.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    He certainly doesn’t appear on the face of it to have many suitors. I’m hoping he’s off though.
    He'll probably sign for hearts as he has no other options, it will be dressed up differently ofcourse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gmack7 View Post
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    He'll probably sign for hearts as he has no other options, it will be dressed up differently ofcourse
    Thats exactly what i was getting at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WeAreHibs View Post
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    We're we not going to be shopping in different supermarkets with being part of the Black Knight group? This is surely the first real opportunity to demonstrate this as part of the process we're learning to trust.

    Make it happen and let's keep building!
    Exactly where I sit. When they came in they said this would happen. I don't think it's much to expect us going up 1 level in the players we are buying. Paying an extra 500k-1millon on what we used to is surely where we should now be at if they stated that. I'm not expecting us to suddenly drop millions on players but I did expect more deals like this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flash View Post
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    I predict Hertz announce Shankland staying over next couple of days and pretend it's because of Blooms investment.
    Probably. Would be huge for them if he stays unfortunately.

    A striker with the ability to bag as many goals as he can could be difference between European places and bottom 6

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    Probably. Would be huge for them if he stays unfortunately.

    A striker with the ability to bag as many goals as he can could be difference between European places and bottom 6
    They had him last season and still finished bottom 6

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    Probably. Would be huge for them if he stays unfortunately.

    A striker with the ability to bag as many goals as he can could be difference between European places and bottom 6
    Yeah. Shame they didn't have him this past season.

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    Although there are no rumours, I'm excited to see what we pull out the hat for Bowie's strike partner.

    Would love to see another aging but clever striker in the mould of Alf or Gayle, think someone like that would be perfect for him to develop alongside.

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    They had him last season and still finished bottom 6
    Yes with the famous 4-4-2 don't think it will be that next season though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vault Boy View Post
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    They had him last season and still finished bottom 6
    They did but also had a manager in charge that didn’t have a scooby and was playing him in attacking mid/just behind the striker.

    Wasn’t much of a surprise he started scoring again when he was put up top and Critchley was away.

    I reckon anyone who doesn’t think shankland staying, especially with mcinnes in charge, would be a massive for them, is lying to themselves.

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