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    Jair. Had genuinely forgotten about him. File along side Bojang.
    Will be a remarkable piece of work if MacKay can shift Jair now and at the same time not for another huge cost to Hibs for another year.

    You would think Jair's agent would be fishing around for a move for him or will it be Hibs & MacKay wasting valuable time doing the donkey work for them.
    Fair enough Jair is within his rights to continue to do the minimal. Turn up for training each day, available for selection, but highly unlikely to be picked.

    Sadly but thankfully, Jair is one of the final remnants of an overall lamentable recruitment process prior to MacKay coming in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    Hopefully anyone will take him and we can even write off close to half of what we're still due him this year as part of a loan fee or a loan/new club paying some of his wages.

    He is arguably the worst piece of business we've maybe done.
    Still think that's Joe Ward.



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    Quote Originally Posted by aberhibsfc View Post
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    100% Agree. Despite being a vile publication, it is only interested in English football or the gruesome twosome.
    Unfortunately the majority of the media are.

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    Allan Delferriere still contracted until 2027

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    How long does Delfierre have left? could do with moving him and Jair

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    Allan Delferriere still contracted until 2027
    Mystic meg is that you?

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    Mo Sylla signs with Livi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ship of Hope View Post
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    Mystic meg is that you?
    😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribs1875 View Post
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    Allan Delferriere still contracted until 2027
    He’s only contracted to the end of this upcoming season (2026), not 2027

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ribs1875 View Post
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    Allan Delferriere still contracted until 2027
    For some reason gave him another contract not long after Monty arrived. Has never looked good enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by evy View Post
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    Mo Sylla signs with Livi
    That’s a brilliant signing for Livi.

    Thought he’d go on to a better team than Dundee, not Livi…

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid View Post
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    He’s only contracted to the end of this upcoming season (2026), not 2027
    There's a bit of confusion about his contract as they announced it as a new 'three year deal' midway into the 23/24 season. It's a bit vague on if that means it takes him up until the end of 25/26 or 26/27 as normally you would say either the year it would last until or even a 'year and a half year deal' since it was midway through the season.

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    Will be a remarkable piece of work if MacKay can shift Jair now and at the same time not for another huge cost to Hibs for another year.

    You would think Jair's agent would be fishing around for a move for him or will it be Hibs & MacKay wasting valuable time doing the donkey work for them.
    Fair enough Jair is within his rights to continue to do the minimal. Turn up for training each day, available for selection, but highly unlikely to be picked.

    Sadly but thankfully, Jair is one of the final remnants of an overall lamentable recruitment process prior to MacKay coming in.
    Totally agree. Some quite bizarre contracts being handed out pre MacKay. Glad the club took action to change things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    There's a bit of confusion about his contract as they announced it as a new 'three year deal' midway into the 23/24 season. It's a bit vague on if that means it takes him up until the end of 25/26 or 26/27 as normally you would say either the year it would last until or even a 'year and a half year deal' since it was midway through the season.
    Looking at the article where it was announced, it was September 2023 so I’d be surprised if the three year deal isn’t ending in Summer 2026 but I suppose it was a bit of an assumption from myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
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    For some reason gave him another contract not long after Monty arrived. Has never looked good enough
    I actually thought he looked alright at stages when seen him. Obviously not the required quality but I did think at times he was alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGL2000 View Post
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    I actually thought he looked alright at stages when seen him. Obviously not the required quality but I did think at times he was alright.
    He looked awful at RB but had a decent game in midfield (his best position) the last time we ever clapped eyes on him.

    That last game at RB when he was hooked before half time lingers long in the memory though.

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    Delferriere came from a decent team and league, a DM but have no clue how he got on last season, seemingly a hard worker with a good attitude, maybe Gray can work his magic with him, we need bodies for all the various cups we're playing in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sundance Kid View Post
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    Looking at the article where it was announced, it was September 2023 so I’d be surprised if the three year deal isn’t ending in Summer 2026 but I suppose it was a bit of an assumption from myself.
    Yeah it's a weird one. My gut tells me it's 2026 too as 2027 is effectively 3 month shy of a 4 year deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    Delferriere came from A decent team and league, a DM but gave no clue how he got on last season, seemingly a hard worker with a good attitude, maybe Gray can work his magic with him, we need bodies for all the various cups we're playing in.
    He was a stand out in the development squad games, but the problem was he was a defensive player who was usually ahead of his competition that he ended up in attacking positions.

    He came to us as a DM that could play CB and RB. As usual with these types of laddies they don't nail down a position to focus on and instead do a bit of everything and can't flourish in an area of the park enough to get into the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I'm not sure why everyone is all of a sudden offended by the term flop for Vente? He was the definition of a flop for us. We once again lucked out by not being saddled with a £600k black hole in the finances for someone that either isn't here or isn't performing.
    Agree. He was an absolute flop at Hibs, the Sun are spot on.

    Delighted we got £1m for him.

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    I still stand by my prediction that Jair will break our record transfer fee received.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I'm not sure why everyone is all of a sudden offended by the term flop for Vente? He was the definition of a flop for us. We once again lucked out by not being saddled with a £600k black hole in the finances for someone that either isn't here or isn't performing.
    I disagree with the term. I disagree with your definition of what a flop at hibs looks like, and we've had plenty. I'd probably happily debate that difference of opinion on here with a fellow hibs fan...

    I don't respect the Sun as a newspaper or a source of opinion on hibs. I certainly don't respect their right to dictate to us, and the rest of Scotland, that one of our players was a flop.

    You are entitled to your opinion. They can **** off.

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    Still think that's Joe Ward.



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    Good shout, you can add Tudor -Jones and Clancy to these Hibs "grates"!

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    Totally agree. Some quite bizarre contracts being handed out pre MacKay. Glad the club took action to change things.
    It is easy to criticise from the outside looking in, but this is what this forum is for. We also praise as well, of which there are numerous posts acknowledging the work done by MacKay and the recruitment guys. But it's fair to say prior to MacKay coming into the club (say the previous 2 years) the number of players brought in, who have subsequently left, heavily outweigh the number who are still here and those we value.

    There are not that many players brought in/contracts renewed since the last summer transfer window, who are no longer here, who have not contributed much or improved. This is good going. The only one which comes to my mind which goes against the grain is Megwa. I think he was given a new 4 year deal.

    There is time for him to improve. And he does have value in that he could be one of the 'home grown' players we have to choose for the European squad games. However, I feel he is quite a bit off being considered for a first team slot and it was surprising to me he was given a 4 year deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    Totally agree. Some quite bizarre contracts being handed out pre MacKay. Glad the club took action to change things.
    You could argue the one given to Megwa, which wasn’t pre MacKay, was bizarre.

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    I'm not sure why everyone is all of a sudden offended by the term flop for Vente? He was the definition of a flop for us. We once again lucked out by not being saddled with a £600k black hole in the finances for someone that either isn't here or isn't performing.
    I’m not sure I’d describe Vente as a flop , yes it didn’t work out at us for a host of different reasons but at the time on paper he looked a quality signing who had been banging in goals that had even attracted the attention of English Championship clubs too .

    I still think there’s a quality player there and loaning him back to where he had been scoring goals was a good move on our part as there was always the chance with his quality he’d rediscover his form again . One that worked out well in the end for us .

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    My Sevconian mate says we've singed triantis for £1.5m

    aye/naw ?

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    We recovered our initial outlay and slightly more on Vente if that’s sufficient to get Triantis then great business

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    I’m not sure I’d describe Vente as a flop , yes it didn’t work out at us for a host of different reasons but at the time on paper he looked a quality signing who had been banging in goals that had even attracted the attention of English Championship clubs too .

    I still think there’s a quality player there and loaning him back to where he had been scoring goals was a good move on our part as there was always the chance with his quality he’d rediscover his form again . One that worked out well in the end for us .
    The club were justified in signing him at the time and the pedigree was there to go fairly big on him. If you put an unnamed transfer target with his CV again in front of me this summer I would hope we went for it. I also agree that there's still a player in there as shown by his spell before us and his loan last season. The failure of his time at Hibs exists solely in the 12 months he was actually here and the variety of reasons that can be attributed to it.

    I genuinely hold no ill will towards Dylan Vente and think a lot of what the club/managers did that season didn't set him up well to succeed. But there can be no doubt in my opinion that he was a flop at Hibs. The only way you can argue it wasn't is if you want to look at it from a budget perspective. We have maybe came out even or a slight profit when everything is considered. But in sheer footballing terms we signed a guy for decent money and he returned nowhere near enough in terms of goals or even general performances in a season that cost two managers their jobs and we finished bottom 6 again.

    It was a big move from the club that flopped and the only reason we're all not upset about it is because we haven't had to write it off financially. I suspect if had to release him at some point this window or next summer for free instead of getting a fee we would all view his time here a little different.

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    I’d absolutely call Vente a flop, although the selective use of stats in the Sun to make his record sound twice as bad as it actually was by taking his Hibs stats over 2 years rather than one was naughty and unfair.

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