Hamas attack on Israel

[Moulin Yarns]

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There's as much blame from within Gaza being attached to Palestinians, whether Hamas-affiliated or looters, for these sort of incidents which is why reporting can be sketchy. The 'rival' food distribution situation has only muddied the issue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-fd97bd85-5060-4a09-8525-053aee434cf7

First hand account of what the Israeli terrorists are doing to aid workers, medics, hospitals.

Go on, defend that!

[Moulin Yarns]

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There's as much blame from within Gaza being attached to Palestinians, whether Hamas-affiliated or looters, for these sort of incidents which is why reporting can be sketchy. The 'rival' food distribution situation has only muddied the issue.

Israeli tanks kill 59 people in Gaza crowd trying to get food aid, medics say | Reuters https://share.google/6W7LqhUPdLP1Mrck8

If you say so!

[cabbageandribs1875]

Trump calls CNN "s**m" and "gutless losers" some other news station got it as well

oh my


didn't quite catch the last part about something else but he said something about "they don't know what the **** they're doing"

the broadcaster then apologising for his language on air

[Aldo]

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Trump calls CNN "****" and "gutless losers" some other news station got it as well

oh my

Boom. They don’t know what the ‘****’ they are doing.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.972mag.com/hunger-games-...gaza-food-aid/

How's this for impartial reporting?

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Boom. They don’t know what the ‘****’ they are doing.

CNN have to apologise to the pilots of the bombers



newsreader still apologising for his language

[cabbageandribs1875]

you just know when his keyboard is getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY

[AgentDaleCooper]

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you just know when his keyboard is getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY

This is so beyond satire it boggles the mind...he's literally trying to direct the military of another country via his home made twitter knock-off page...I don't think there's any adjectives to cover this level of absurdity.

[MKHIBEE]

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https://www.972mag.com/hunger-games-...gaza-food-aid/

How's this for impartial reporting?

Do you have a problem with it?

[Aldo]

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CNN have to apologise to the pilots of the bombers



newsreader still apologising for his language

It’s crazy.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Do you have a problem with it?

Not at all. It's both Palestinian and Israeli journalists, so should be able to tell the truth from the ground.

[Pretty Boy]

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you just know when his keyboard is getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY

If The Thick of It broadcast an episode with Malcolm Tucker doing this people would have said they had jumped the shark.

Trump has brutally killed political satire because nothing can be more ridiculous than how he actually acts.

[He's here!]

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Where are you hearing that?

Of course Hamas wants to have control of the aid supply chain for the people it supposedly 'governs'. They're hardly going to want the Americans and Israelis to take charge of it.

We've seen UN aid workers sacked for their Hamas affiliatons:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152841

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In BBC langauge Israelis are “ slaughtered” “ massacred” etc etc. Palestinians are “killed” or “shot dead” etc etc. Many more examples of BBC bias can be found. Where were their verify team then? The BBC are a TV equivalent of the Daily Mail. Not worth listening to, or, at least, treat everything with suspicion.

That's not my take on BBC rhetoric around the conflict at all.

In fact IIRC they stepped up their efforts to improve accuracy after one of their own reporters attributed a misdirected Hamas rocket which hit hospital premises to an Israeli strike. I don't really get the bias allegations. The Daily Mail, I agree, is probably a different matter.

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Of course Hamas wants to have control of the aid supply chain for the people it supposedly 'governs'. They're hardly going to want the Americans and Israelis to take charge of it.

We've seen UN aid workers sacked for their Hamas affiliations:

https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152841

Hardly answers my question and your link didn’t work. There are many agencies outwith the UN, Israel and America who could control the aid.

[MKHIBEE]

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That's not my take on BBC rhetoric around the conflict at all.

In fact IIRC they stepped up their efforts to improve accuracy after one of their own reporters attributed a misdirected Hamas rocket which hit hospital premises to an Israeli strike. I don't really get the bias allegations. The Daily Mail, I agree, is probably a different matter.

This report would beg to differ.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25...-pattern-bias/

[Ozyhibby]

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you just know when his keyboard is getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY

Hasn’t even thanked them for their attention to this matter. Serious stuff.


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you just know when his keyboard is getting REALLY REALLY ANGRY

He didn't even say @Israel, or #majorviolation #ceasefire

What if Israel isn't looking at their phone?

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This report would beg to differ.
https://www.thenational.scot/news/25...-pattern-bias/

No surprise to see it's that BBC-loving bastion of impartiality The National which is carrying the story.

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No surprise to see it's that BBC-loving bastion of impartiality The National which is carrying the story.

Did they conduct the report? If not then what’s your point?


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No surprise to see it's that BBC-loving bastion of impartiality The National which is carrying the story.

It's reporting on the publication of a report which you seek out, read for yourself and naked your mind up on. Happy to help.

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That's not my take on BBC rhetoric around the conflict at all.

In fact IIRC they stepped up their efforts to improve accuracy after one of their own reporters attributed a misdirected Hamas rocket which hit hospital premises to an Israeli strike. I don't really get the bias allegations. The Daily Mail, I agree, is probably a different matter.

There are numerous documented examples of the BBC using different language depending on who the victims are. It's not just about one isolated correction - it's consistent patterns in tone, terminology and narrative framing. Many studies by academic researchers and media watchdogs have highlighted this over the years. There is a cumulative effect of years of subtle bias.

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Not at all. It's both Palestinian and Israeli journalists, so should be able to tell the truth from the ground.

Fair enough, I read more into your comment than was intended.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Fair enough, I read more into your comment than was intended.

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Did they conduct the report? If not then what’s your point?


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I'm guessing the point is probably that you would find that the National is one of the very few, if not the only mainstream (if you can call it that) media outlets that will have run with that report. Anything BBC-bashing will be right up their street. The Centre for Media Monitoring is a misleading title. It's an offshoot of the Muslim Council of Great Britain and monitors only media relating to coverage of Muslims, not some holistic monitor of all things media. Nothing wrong with that obviously, but that particular report accepts without question the stats released by the Hamas-run agencies in Gaza, which makes it too subjective for most news outlets to take it as gospel.

The National's anti-BBC editorial policy is entrenched, believing as they seem to that the Beeb swayed the independence referendum.

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I'm guessing the point is probably that you would find that the National is one of the very few, if not the only mainstream (if you can call it that) media outlets that will have run with that report. Anything BBC-bashing will be right up their street. The Centre for Media Monitoring is a misleading title. It's an offshoot of the Muslim Council of Great Britain and monitors only media relating to coverage of Muslims, not some holistic monitor of all things media. Nothing wrong with that obviously, but that particular report accepts without question the stats released by the Hamas-run agencies in Gaza, which makes it too subjective for most news outlets to take it as gospel.

The National's anti-BBC editorial policy is entrenched, believing as they seem to that the Beeb swayed the independence referendum.

Before October 2023, the Department of Health of Gaza had been verified to give accurate data regarding casualties. Even the US, reluctantly, when its government actually cared a little about its image regarding the genocide, accepted the numbers it was given from Gaza. What the Department of Health of Gaza doesn't do is separate combatant deaths from civilian deaths, but the high number of women and children among the victims tells you that this isn't war.

If anything, I think the whole Humanitarian Foundation scheme is an attempt to lure males to the distribution points and slaughter them. After all, it's the traditional male role to put food on the table.

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I'm guessing the point is probably that you would find that the National is one of the very few, if not the only mainstream (if you can call it that) media outlets that will have run with that report. Anything BBC-bashing will be right up their street. The Centre for Media Monitoring is a misleading title. It's an offshoot of the Muslim Council of Great Britain and monitors only media relating to coverage of Muslims, not some holistic monitor of all things media. Nothing wrong with that obviously, but that particular report accepts without question the stats released by the Hamas-run agencies in Gaza, which makes it too subjective for most news outlets to take it as gospel.

The National's anti-BBC editorial policy is entrenched, believing as they seem to that the Beeb swayed the independence referendum.

They are the only outlet with anything approaching an Independence view point. The media are ridiculously weighted to the better together union position. The media in this country are pretty awful in general and levels of bias and misinformation is off the scale.

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There are numerous documented examples of the BBC using different language depending on who the victims are. It's not just about one isolated correction - it's consistent patterns in tone, terminology and narrative framing. Many studies by academic researchers and media watchdogs have highlighted this over the years. There is a cumulative effect of years of subtle bias.

Yes anyone with an objective opinion can see it

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Before October 2023, the Department of Health of Gaza had been verified to give accurate data regarding casualties. Even the US, reluctantly, when its government actually cared a little about its image regarding the genocide, accepted the numbers it was given from Gaza. What the Department of Health of Gaza doesn't do is separate combatant deaths from civilian deaths, but the high number of women and children among the victims tells you that this isn't war.

If anything, I think the whole Humanitarian Foundation scheme is an attempt to lure males to the distribution points and slaughter them. After all, it's the traditional male role to put food on the table.

Is it not the case that the civilian death toll in wars tends to be significantly higher than the number of combatants killed? I might be wrong on that, but my memory of studying World War Two at school was that around 70% of those who died were civilians. As you say, it's harder in Gaza to separate the Hamas militant death toll from the civilian one.

With Iranian support for Hamas likely to be significantly diluted in the wake of the last couple of weeks, Hamas should seriously consider releasing whatever hostages remain alive. Netanyahu will prolong this conflict for as long as he can to avoid an electoral reckoning in Israel, but if they can achieve their purported aim of freeing the remaining hostages there's less justification for the ongoing hostilities, especially if Iranian funding for Hamas dries up. As Pretty Boy suggested in an earlier post, a regime change in Iran and fresh elections in Israel would at least provide some sort of hope for a less volatile future situation across the region.

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I'm guessing the point is probably that you would find that the National is one of the very few, if not the only mainstream (if you can call it that) media outlets that will have run with that report. Anything BBC-bashing will be right up their street. The Centre for Media Monitoring is a misleading title. It's an offshoot of the Muslim Council of Great Britain and monitors only media relating to coverage of Muslims, not some holistic monitor of all things media. Nothing wrong with that obviously, but that particular report accepts without question the stats released by the Hamas-run agencies in Gaza, which makes it too subjective for most news outlets to take it as gospel.

The National's anti-BBC editorial policy is entrenched, believing as they seem to that the Beeb swayed the independence referendum.

I’m guessing tha fact that it claims it that its purpose is to provide fair, unbiased and honest reporting where the Muslim and Islamic communities are concerned is the reason it is body swerved by most agencies