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    Just a curiosity but have Millwall actually paid all of Nisbets fee or do they still owe us some.


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    Quote Originally Posted by badabing67 View Post
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    Just a curiosity but have Millwall actually paid all of Nisbets fee or do they still owe us some.
    Wouldn't be surprised if the bulk of it is coming through instalments, but it was 2 years ago now he left so if there's any more left to pay I doubt it's much + any future sell ons we may have agreed.

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    I suppose it all comes down to one persons judgment over another.

    And one of the two of us always stuck with SDG being a good manager and never called Triantis “****ing crap”.
    I’ve no idea when I called Triantis crap, if I did though I’d hazard a guess it was when he was playing crap as I’ve praised him heavily this season.

    Given he was part of the squad you were adamant weren’t good enough to finish any higher than 8th though then it’s not a stretch to suggest that even if you didn’t claim it regarding him personally, he was part of the “horrendous squad” you repeatedly told us about that Pep Montgomery could simply have never been expected to do any better with.

    Let’s also keep in mind that you told us all we were getting relegated this season when you were preaching about our poor squad after Montgomery got sacked if we really want to drag up old posts.
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    Signings so far:

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    34 days until our first competitive game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badabing67 View Post
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    Just a curiosity but have Millwall actually paid all of Nisbets fee or do they still owe us some.
    On Hearts radar if shankland goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee1875 View Post
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    Are we all forgetting Mane came in in January and didn’t really feature? He’ll be like a new signing and could fill the Triantis hole.

    By all accounts he was getting up to speed with the pace of our game but I liked the look of him vs rangers
    If Triantis doesn't come back I think we will definitely go into the market for another midfielder. As much as I like the look of Manneh they are different types of players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by easty View Post
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    I wouldn’t be selling him as cheaply as this on FM.

    Well quite… that’s the point.

    In the real world, the Scottish game is undervalued and we suffer as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHODAN View Post
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    Signings so far:

    Aberdeen: 4
    Hearts: 6
    Hibs: 2

    34 days until our first competitive game.

    All that matters is putting together the best possible squad, not transfer window clout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHODAN View Post
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    Signings so far:

    Aberdeen: 4
    Hearts: 6
    Hibs: 2

    34 days until our first competitive game.
    Read the same sort of thing on last year's summer transfer thread and the winter transfer thread. Signing loads of players early on doesn't necessarily equate to good or sensible transfer business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGL2000 View Post
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    If Triantis doesn't come back I think we will definitely go into the market for another midfielder. As much as I like the look of Manneh they are different types of players.

    My concern is that Triantis is vital to the way we play and replacing him will be difficult.

    This doesn’t mean that Manneh or someone else can’t step up to the plate of course. But Triantis has the experience as a CH to sense danger and drop in whenever we looked stretched at the back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacomo View Post
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    Well quite… that’s the point.

    In the real world, the Scottish game is undervalued and we suffer as a result.
    Only reason we suffer is because clubs excluding Celtic keep accepting low offers for their players. Vente is a bit different due to wanting to leave being out of contract ect. But Scottish clubs need to do better at holding out for more money across the board. Only way we can start commanding higher fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC93 View Post
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    Read the same sort of thing on last year's summer transfer thread and the winter transfer thread. Signing loads of players early on doesn't necessarily equate to good or sensible transfer business.
    Our best players from last year -

    Iredale (signed on deadilne day at 11pm)
    Triantis (signed on deadline day at about 9pm)
    Rocky (was here the season prior)
    Nicky Cadden (signed in August)
    Boyle (was here the season prior)
    Gayle (signed after the window shut)

    Our earliest signings last year. -

    O'Hora (I think he had an okay season, some not sold on him though)
    Ekpiteta (didn't contribute after November)
    Bursik (utterly hopeless)

    Sometimes you have to wait and make sure. There's no reason to go and rush a centre half or striker in because you need a body. The best players in our price ranges will have suitors and patience will be required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGL2000 View Post
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    Only reason we suffer is because clubs excluding Celtic keep accepting low offers for their players. Vente is a bit different due to wanting to leave being out of contract ect. But Scottish clubs need to do better at holding out for more money across the board. Only way we can start commanding higher fees.
    The thing is that clubs in other leagues have their finances bolstered by much better TV and media deals than the SPFL and other more advantageous income sources, so have that buffer where they can hang on a bit and wait for better offers. Every SPFL club bar Celtic is working on a financial knife edge, which severely weakens their negotiating strength. Until we get more sustainable finance across the board we'll continue to be the Cinderellas of the transfer market.

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    Signings so far:

    Aberdeen: 4
    Hearts: 6
    Hibs: 2

    34 days until our first competitive game.
    One of them was in a relegation battle and the other finished 5th. They need players more than us.

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    Our best players from last year -

    Iredale (signed on deadilne day at 11pm)
    Triantis (signed on deadline day at about 9pm)
    Rocky (was here the season prior)
    Nicky Cadden (signed in August)
    Boyle (was here the season prior)
    Gayle (signed after the window shut)

    Our earliest signings last year. -

    O'Hora (I think he had an okay season, some not sold on him though)
    Ekpiteta (didn't contribute after November)
    Bursik (utterly hopeless)

    Sometimes you have to wait and make sure. There's no reason to go and rush a centre half or striker in because you need a body. The best players in our price ranges will have suitors and patience will be required.
    It's difficult getting players in the door as other clubs are also looking to strengthen their squads, so some deals which may be 100% certain may take substantially longer due to other club attempting to get replacements in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GloryGlory View Post
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    The thing is that clubs in other leagues have their finances bolstered by much better TV and media deals than the SPFL and other more advantageous income sources, so have that buffer where they can hang on a bit and wait for better offers. Every SPFL club bar Celtic is working on a financial knife edge, which severely weakens their negotiating strength. Until we get more sustainable finance across the board we'll continue to be the Cinderellas of the transfer market.
    If you compare us to comparable leagues we are still making less. Austrian bundesliga made 93 million in sales last year we only made 68 million. Even on a team basis look at Bodo who play in a worse league than us. They are achieving upwards of 10 million for some players. Yes, there European exposure has helped but they are realistically a small team than us in most senses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    One of them was in a relegation battle and the other finished 5th. They need players more than us.
    I think that's the kind of attitude that's seen the 3rd place team struggle to retain it next season. Just because we had a brilliant end to the season doesn't mean we can stand still. We should be looking to improve all the time, which I'm sure we are!

    Currently we are probably worse than last season squad wise. So some big holes to fill!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    Our best players from last year -

    Iredale (signed on deadilne day at 11pm)
    Triantis (signed on deadline day at about 9pm)
    Rocky (was here the season prior)
    Nicky Cadden (signed in August)
    Boyle (was here the season prior)
    Gayle (signed after the window shut)

    Our earliest signings last year. -

    O'Hora (I think he had an okay season, some not sold on him though)
    Ekpiteta (didn't contribute after November)
    Bursik (utterly hopeless)

    Sometimes you have to wait and make sure. There's no reason to go and rush a centre half or striker in because you need a body. The best players in our price ranges will have suitors and patience will be required.
    Europe brings its own pressure to get things done earlier in key positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since452 View Post
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    One of them was in a relegation battle and the other finished 5th. They need players more than us.
    And yet we have lost players from that team so the squad is weaker.

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    Did someone not say on here we gave the players out of contract a deadline date to agree new deal so we can move on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGL2000 View Post
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    If you compare us to comparable leagues we are still making less. Austrian bundesliga made 93 million in sales last year we only made 68 million. Even on a team basis look at Bodo who play in a worse league than us. They are achieving upwards of 10 million for some players. Yes, there European exposure has helped but they are realistically a small team than us in most senses.
    I think it's what known in finance as a virtuous circle - you generate more money, you get better players and/or spend more in developing young talent, you qualify for Europe and better players give you a better chance of getting group stages, you have some success and get noticed by the big fish in the pond, they buy your players for big bucks, rinse and repeat.

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    If Triantis doesn't come back I think we will definitely go into the market for another midfielder. As much as I like the look of Manneh they are different types of players.
    The fact they went for Simons shows the club feel the same way. Bit wary that whilst Manneh technically good he won't be the rangey physical presence Triantis is.

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    All that matters is putting together the best possible squad, not transfer window clout.
    I took consistent abuse each of those windows for being pretty relaxed about us doing business and getting the right players in, not just to specific timetable. I’m pretty relaxed again.

    Everyone at the club will be well aware of what we want and what is or might become available.

    This usually degenerates into suggestions we don’t realise we need players, we actively don’t want to sign players or we are too skint to sign players. None of those things are true.


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    Latest as Derek McInnes and the club remain hopeful of convincing Lawrence Shankland that his future lies at Tynecastle Park.

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    I thought shankland had gone to west brom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy View Post
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    I thought shankland had gone to west brom?
    Was linked but nowt's happened so far.

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    How about Bowie, Nisbet, Boyle and Youan .... Plus the Veteran we will inevitably bring in
    I’d bite your hand off for that.

    As long as SDG doesn’t feel it would upset the harmony at the club. Pretty sure SDG will go for him if he thinks his attitude is good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EGL2000 View Post
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    If Triantis doesn't come back I think we will definitely go into the market for another midfielder. As much as I like the look of Manneh they are different types of players.
    Agree - Triantis height, physicality and running power is vital.

    SDG seems to like physicality and height so imagine he will want someone similar if we can’t get Triantis


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