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    All done in spite of BKFC, who made it clear they disagreed with two pivotal appointments - Malky and Gray
    I think that situation has been amicably resolved by both parties.


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    And now it looks like Bournemouth are sending a quality player (Max Aarons) on loan to rangers. Bit weird no? Have they not said they want us to challenge the top 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lago View Post
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    I think that situation has been amicably resolved by both parties.
    BKFC are delighted with Gray and the relationship, they played an integral part of the hiring of the new CEO and progress a is being made at pace at the club with BKFC and Ian Gordon heavily involved.

    The club is in great shape at the moment as odd only going to get stronger- the recent board changes are reflective of more hands on input from BKFC who are very much working as one with Hibs rather than a split.

    Last season's "success" was absolutely not done in spite of BKFC, but very much in tandem with them. It's been a huge collective effort and I think there's every reason to be very optimistic about what's coming down the line for us.

    I don't think we're should be seeing Bournemouth players go to Rangers, however, I would hope if that happens there's some context to it that explains the decision as it doesn't look great if a player is moving from there to Scotland and it's not us they're coming to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pytheas View Post
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    And now it looks like Bournemouth are sending a quality player (Max Aarons) on loan to rangers. Bit weird no? Have they not said they want us to challenge the top 2?
    What sort of player is he? I’ve never heard of him.

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    We were never going to get guys of Max Aarons standard on loan

    He was at Valencia last season

    Doesn’t change anything imo and can’t be held against the BK

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    What sort of player is he? I’ve never heard of him.
    Good attacking full back, very fast. Career has stalled a bit but stalled at the top level.

    Was touted as a big star when he was at Norwich.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    We were never going to get guys of Max Aarons standard on loan

    He was at Valencia last season

    Doesn’t change anything imo and can’t be held against the BK
    I wasn't so much suggesting that Hibs get him, just that they find a club for him that isn't a direct rival of the club they part own?

    On paper there's probably never been a better chance for Hibs to split the OF (a stated target of BK at Hibs) in the last 25 years and now they are helping Rangers with their rebuild?

    Just seems odd to me.

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    BKFC are delighted with Gray and the relationship, they played an integral part of the hiring of the new CEO and progress a is being made at pace at the club with BKFC and Ian Gordon heavily involved.

    The club is in great shape at the moment as odd only going to get stronger- the recent board changes are reflective of more hands on input from BKFC who are very much working as one with Hibs rather than a split.

    Last season's "success" was absolutely not done in spite of BKFC, but very much in tandem with them. It's been a huge collective effort and I think there's every reason to be very optimistic about what's coming down the line for us.

    I don't think we're should be seeing Bournemouth players go to Rangers, however, I would hope if that happens there's some context to it that explains the decision as it doesn't look great if a player is moving from there to Scotland and it's not us they're coming to.
    The guy will be on a Premier League wage miles out of our reach even if we are both part of the same group. I don’t think it’s realistic that we could expect Bournemouth never to trade with anyone up here, just as we’d still trade to other teams down there (if we have a player good enough). Man City for example, I’d expect to still loan or sell players to other teams in Spain even though Girona are part of the City Football Group. The Red Bull teams will loan or sell players to teams competing against other teams for the group and so on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pytheas View Post
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    I wasn't so much suggesting that Hibs get him, just that they find a club for him that isn't a direct rival of the club they part own?

    On paper there's probably never been a better chance for Hibs to split the OF (a stated target of BK at Hibs) in the last 25 years and now they are helping Rangers with their rebuild?

    Just seems odd to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pytheas View Post
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    I wasn't so much suggesting that Hibs get him, just that they find a club for him that isn't a direct rival of the club they part own?

    On paper there's probably never been a better chance for Hibs to split the OF (a stated target of BK at Hibs) in the last 25 years and now they are helping Rangers with their rebuild?

    Just seems odd to me.
    If Brentford offered us £10m for Bowie next summer should we reject it on the basis that it could strengthen a team in the same division as Bournemouth? Of course we wouldn’t.

    Both Hibs and Bournemouth will do whatever is in their respective best interests. If there are opportunities where our interests align and are mutually beneficial we will take them.

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    Kyle Walker agrees to one year deal to Everton.
    Coleman, Young and Walker, how many veteran right backs do they need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unseen work View Post
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    We were never going to get guys of Max Aarons standard on loan

    He was at Valencia last season

    Doesn’t change anything imo and can’t be held against the BK
    To be fair only made 4 appearances in an awful Valencia team. Don't think he would be a million miles off us now. Similar vibe to myzaine. Really highly rated at one point and his career has took a nose dive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapitalGreen View Post
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    If Brentford offered us £10m for Bowie next summer should we reject it on the basis that it could strengthen a team in the same division as Bournemouth? Of course we wouldn’t.

    Both Hibs and Bournemouth will do whatever is in their respective best interests. If there are opportunities where our interests align and are mutually beneficial we will take them.

    No but i'm sure B'mouth would be given 1st refusal to match the offer.

    I see what you're saying and I don't expect to function as 1 big club, but this just seems like a fairly easily avoidable conflict of interest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pytheas View Post
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    No but i'm sure B'mouth would be given 1st refusal to match the offer.

    I see what you're saying and I don't expect to function as 1 big club, but this just seems like a fairly easily avoidable conflict of interest.
    The boy's pish.

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    I wasn't so much suggesting that Hibs get him, just that they find a club for him that isn't a direct rival of the club they part own?

    On paper there's probably never been a better chance for Hibs to split the OF (a stated target of BK at Hibs) in the last 25 years and now they are helping Rangers with their rebuild?

    Just seems odd to me.
    Honestly Hibs or any other team aren’t splitting the OF . I must have missed something about what was said by the BK’s as I thought it was to have us finishing 3rd and qualifying for Europe regularly which is more realistic but still challenging all the same . The partnership with Bournemouth doesn’t mean they stop doing what’s best for them in loaning players to other clubs in our league . Doing what’s best for Bournemouth is what the multi group is all about though hopefully there’s benefits for us to which I think we are seeing now.

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    It's not that long ago Hibs loaned a striker to Rangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pytheas View Post
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    No but i'm sure B'mouth would be given 1st refusal to match the offer.

    I see what you're saying and I don't expect to function as 1 big club, but this just seems like a fairly easily avoidable conflict of interest.
    Alright. So what if they are covered in that position? Do you expect them to pay the 10m just to prevent a rival getting him? So if they don't buy a player they don't need it is on them? Or are they then just okay with us strengthening a rival?

    What benefit does being in a group actually give them? They suddenly can't send players on loan, or even sell, to large portions of the Scottish, French, Australian, and Portuguese top divisions? For fearvof strengthening any of their grouo's rivals? Some benefit!

    Hibs aren't run for Bournemouth's benefit. And I wouldn't want them to be. And that works both ways

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    Quote Originally Posted by B.H.F.C View Post
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    The guy will be on a Premier League wage miles out of our reach even if we are both part of the same group. I don’t think it’s realistic that we could expect Bournemouth never to trade with anyone up here, just as we’d still trade to other teams down there (if we have a player good enough). Man City for example, I’d expect to still loan or sell players to other teams in Spain even though Girona are part of the City Football Group. The Red Bull teams will loan or sell players to teams competing against other teams for the group and so on.
    Yeah I agree with that, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby View Post
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    Honestly Hibs or any other team aren’t splitting the OF . I must have missed something about what was said by the BK’s as I thought it was to have us finishing 3rd and qualifying for Europe regularly which is more realistic but still challenging all the same . The partnership with Bournemouth doesn’t mean they stop doing what’s best for them in loaning players to other clubs in our league . Doing what’s best for Bournemouth is what the multi group is all about though hopefully there’s benefits for us to which I think we are seeing now.
    Yep, I can’t recall reading where splitting the old firm was stated target.

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    Yep, I can’t recall reading where splitting the old firm was stated target.
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    In their 1st full season we've progressed from 8th the season before up to 3rd and unlucky not to get guaranteed european group stages. What were you expecting us to have achieved by now? Disruption of the Glasgow 2?
    How much was that down to the Black Knights directly though? Of course we'll take finishing 3rd every year in any way shape or form, but the Black Knights weren't responsible for us signing folk like Nicky Cadden etc. What I'm trying to get at is that I'm disappointed that we haven't seen the 'higher quality' type players ie Marcondes and Malodia. Those two you could tell had real real class and gave a taste of what I thought was to come, but since then we've not had a single player in to match.

    Granted the window has just opened and there's still alot of time, but players of that calibre are what got/get the fans off their seats and make a huge difference on the park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California-Hibs View Post
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    How much was that down to the Black Knights directly though? Of course we'll take finishing 3rd every year in any way shape or form, but the Black Knights weren't responsible for us signing folk like Nicky Cadden etc. What I'm trying to get at is that I'm disappointed that we haven't seen the 'higher quality' type players ie Marcondes and Malodia. Those two you could tell had real real class and gave a taste of what I thought was to come, but since then we've not had a single player in to match.

    Granted the window has just opened and there's still alot of time, but players of that calibre are what got/get the fans off their seats and make a huge difference on the park.
    If Bournemouth want their players to go out on loan, it is entirely up to them where their players end up, probably based on what is best for the player's development. If that isn't Hibs, then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California-Hibs View Post
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    How much was that down to the Black Knights directly though? Of course we'll take finishing 3rd every year in any way shape or form, but the Black Knights weren't responsible for us signing folk like Nicky Cadden etc. What I'm trying to get at is that I'm disappointed that we haven't seen the 'higher quality' type players ie Marcondes and Malodia. Those two you could tell had real real class and gave a taste of what I thought was to come, but since then we've not had a single player in to match.

    Granted the window has just opened and there's still alot of time, but players of that calibre are what got/get the fans off their seats and make a huge difference on the park.
    I’m sure I read that SDG and his team had visited Bournemouth and spoke with their coaching team. What about Stewart in the recruitment role. He came from the group?

    I think you have to remember it’s just as important to learn off the park as it is on the park. Maybe SDG has tried something different after a visiting to Bournemouth.

    Whilst I understand what you are saying about Maolida and Marcondes but Nicky Cadden got me off my seat plenty of times.

    As it stands we are moving in the right direction alongside BKG. We don’t need to shout it from the rooftops like our inferiority complex neighbours but go about our business with BKG quietly and efficiently.

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    How much was that down to the Black Knights directly though? Of course we'll take finishing 3rd every year in any way shape or form, but the Black Knights weren't responsible for us signing folk like Nicky Cadden etc. What I'm trying to get at is that I'm disappointed that we haven't seen the 'higher quality' type players ie Marcondes and Malodia. Those two you could tell had real real class and gave a taste of what I thought was to come, but since then we've not had a single player in to match.

    Granted the window has just opened and there's still alot of time, but players of that calibre are what got/get the fans off their seats and make a huge difference on the park.
    Wonder what's the latest with respect to Myziane Maolida. Flashscores have him out of contract at Al Kholood on 30th June 2025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theonlywayisup View Post
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    Wonder what's the latest with respect to Myziane Maolida. Flashscores have him out of contract at Al Kholood on 30th June 2025.
    No chanve he will be coming back to us. Scored 15 league goals last season in a now pretty competitive league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by California-Hibs View Post
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    How much was that down to the Black Knights directly though? Of course we'll take finishing 3rd every year in any way shape or form, but the Black Knights weren't responsible for us signing folk like Nicky Cadden etc. What I'm trying to get at is that I'm disappointed that we haven't seen the 'higher quality' type players ie Marcondes and Malodia. Those two you could tell had real real class and gave a taste of what I thought was to come, but since then we've not had a single player in to match.

    Granted the window has just opened and there's still alot of time, but players of that calibre are what got/get the fans off their seats and make a huge difference on the park.
    Nicky Cadden was a much better signing than Marcondes though. You seem to judge a players quality based on where they come from whereas you should judge quality on what they do on the pitch in a Hibs strip.

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    If Brentford offered us £10m for Bowie next summer should we reject it on the basis that it could strengthen a team in the same division as Bournemouth? Of course we wouldn’t.

    Both Hibs and Bournemouth will do whatever is in their respective best interests. If there are opportunities where our interests align and are mutually beneficial we will take them.

    Just like doing business with any other club then.

    Again, what exactly is the benefit of this multi-club model to Hibs?

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    TBF, the translation of the article does say, although there hasn't been contact yet, Heerenveen could be interested in Vente and may make a move in the coming weeks.
    It’s being reported in the Sun this morning that Vente has agreed a four year deal with them. If true then I guess the next stage would be for Hibs to agree a a price

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    It’s being reported in the Sun this morning that Vente has agreed a four year deal with them. If true then I guess the next stage would be for Hibs to agree a a price
    Surely that's the wrong way round? If true then he can't talk to anyone without Hibs permission and I would doubt we would do that without a deal agreed?

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