What's the latest with Youan?

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Some trying to convince themselves Youan has been anything but a massive disappointment who will cost the club millions based on the past 18 months I see.

I don’t think anyone would argue that it’s been disappointing to not see more of Youan the last 18 months, so that’s nonsense.

Hows he going to cost the club millions?

[Sioux]

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Players get injuries and have set backs all the time , it’s part and parcel of football I’d say . There’s another way to look at in after the injuries ,set backs and the time he’s been out he comes back this season hungry and firing on all cylinders helping us in Europe and the league thus helping us make money while attracting potential interest from clubs in January.

What sort of fantasy world do you live in?

[Donegal Hibby]

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What sort of fantasy world do you live in?

Not as big a one as some folk that are saying in the players downed tools , refusing to play , faking his juries etc . Gray has already stated that the player is most happy when he’s playing football . I don’t think it’s in any way far fetched to suggest that the guy could possibly be chomping at the bit to get back on the pitch and help the team .

[Jock O]

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What sort of fantasy world do you live in?

Why is that a fantasy, its happened for lesser players, even at Hibs! All the time.

Honestly this place sometimes, what's that old saying, answer the point not the person!

[basehibby]

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What sort of fantasy world do you live in?

That's a needlessly miserable comment. I think you'll find it's called optimism and I'll be delighted if it turns out to be well founded. Youan is a fantastic player on his day and I'd be very happy to see him bolster our ranks for the challenges ahead.

[theonlywayisup]

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Why is that a fantasy, its happened for lesser players, even at Hibs! All the time.

Honestly this place sometimes, what's that old saying, answer the point not the person!

I have zero inside information, so all I can go by is what my eyes tell me. It's my opinion against those of others. Zero facts, 100% opinion. I believe my opinion to be just as valid as anyone else.

I'll repeat what my eyes told me. From the time after he returned from his injury that occurred in the League Cup game final seconds, I felt his application was shocking. He seemed to have zero understanding of what he was being asked to do. Some may say he downed tools.

However, occurring at the same time as our resurgence post Dundee, it was like a flick had been switched. Whether that was he was being played further forward and his instructions were clearer to him, or whether he was reacting to the negative comments made by ex professionals or whether it was focusing on the Winter transfer window, I don’t know.

It was quite clear he was frustrated at being substituted away at Tiny as he was in top form. Sadly, that was his season over apart from a last throw of the dice move against Celtic.

IMO, Youan doesn't fit well into the team dynamics that was so strong in the resurgence post-Dundee, part of which we can thank Youan for playing his part.

I can fully understand why some say "get rid" and I don't believe they should be criticised as being out of order. Many, including me, have had enough of a talented enigma. I hope he finds a club that he can display his exceptional (for the SPFL) talents.

[SickBoy32]

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Spot on. There is no doubt he has his flaws, but you have people describing him as a liability which is just utter nonsense.

Utter nonsense? For approx 1.5 years - he has IMO been a net detractor within the squad.

I’m sure he’ll be on a decent wage relative to the squad, I’d personally be looking for more of a return than what we’ve seen. Given his numerous wantaway comments / snidey outbursts over the years, I also don’t think it’s too outlandish to hold some scepticism around his injuries.

Get rid, and bring in better (and more reliable) please Hibs 👍

[Donegal Hibby]

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[Sioux]

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What's that got to do with you're fantasy that he'll be "hungry and firing on all cylinders helping us in Europe and the league thus helping us make money while attracting potential interest from clubs in January."

There's little or no evidence in the last 12 months or more of that happening. He'd be lucky to find himself an a starting 11 at Hibs right now.

[Thatdayinmay16]

I think Hibs and Elie Youan need a fresh start. I don't see him being able to play as a wingback and I'm not convinced he is an out and out striker who can play as 1 of the 2 front options.

Moving him on allows us to bring in someone else, and him to move on and thrive elsewhere.

With him moving into the last year of his deal, I'd rather money was made available from his transfer than to lose him for nothing.

[Donegal Hibby]

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What's that got to do with you're fantasy that he'll be "hungry and firing on all cylinders helping us in Europe and the league thus helping us make money while attracting potential interest from clubs in January."

There's little or no evidence in the last 12 months or more of that happening. He'd be lucky to find himself an a starting 11 at Hibs right now.

There’s nothing fantasy about expecting a player that’s been out for a lengthy period wouldn’t be hungry and eager to get back playing again , really don’t know where you’re coming from on this . You think he’s not bothered about getting back playing again like?

[Ship of Hope]

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What sort of fantasy world do you live in?

The same one as me! What sort do you live in just so I don’t end up going there on holiday by mistake. It sounds like it it would be a kind of glass half empty miserable place .. only having a laugh but I do think Youan is quality and contributed plenty to the team.. a goal or assist in almost every other game cannot be argued against surely?

He was hung out to dry in my opinion by montgomery who left him on the pitch when we were trying to defend a 1-0 lead in last minutes of a game. He should have recognised that defending is not youan super power but instead left him to be targeted by the opposition and open to fan criticism. Used properly Youan can be a real asset for us this season and I hope he hits top form. Why he hits top form I could not care less.

[Jim44]

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What's that got to do with you're fantasy that he'll be "hungry and firing on all cylinders helping us in Europe and the league thus helping us make money while attracting potential interest from clubs in January."

There's little or no evidence in the last 12 months or more of that happening. He'd be lucky to find himself an a starting 11 at Hibs right now.

The keepie-uppie issue is just a distraction from the main issue …… does he see himself with a future at Hibs. Supporters are divided, some think everything is hunky dory and others suspect something doesn’t ring true. I would have thought the air could easily have cleared by a brief video interview with the player. SDG’s occasional, brief comments on the situation don’t seem to have quelled the speculation.

[Thatdayinmay16]

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The same one as me! What sort do you live in just so I don’t end up going there on holiday by mistake. It sounds like it it would be a kind of glass half empty miserable place .. only having a laugh but I do think Youan is quality and contributed plenty to the team.. a goal or assist in almost every other game cannot be argued against surely?

He was hung out to dry in my opinion by montgomery who left him on the pitch when we were trying to defend a 1-0 lead in last minutes of a game. He should have recognised that defending is not youan super power but instead left him to be targeted by the opposition and open to fan criticism. Used properly Youan can be a real asset for us this season and I hope he hits top form. Why he hits top form I could not care less.

That is literally apart of Elie Youan's job.

Boyle's done it for years, we should expect all 11 players to be doing it whether its 1-0 or 5-0.

[Donegal Hibby]

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The keepie-uppie issue is just a distraction from the main issue …… does he see himself with a future at Hibs. Supporters are divided, some think everything is hunky dory and others suspect something doesn’t ring true. I would have thought the air could easily have cleared by a brief video interview with the player. SDG’s occasional, brief comments on the situation don’t seem to have quelled the speculation.

The keeping-uppie was another example of things getting totally blown out of portion by certain pundits and our own fans to a degree when it was quite clear the manager / staff and his teammates didn’t see a problem. Remember seeing Maradona doing exactly the same for Napoli .

The other conspiracy theories on him faking his injuries and refusing to play I haven’t bought into either as I don’t think he has anything to gain at all by faking injuries or refusing to play especially as some say he doesn’t want to be here and wants a move , Gray said he’s at his most happiest when playing football and also said at one time when he got injured that it was in an attempt to win a ball he didn’t have too . Gray has never given any indication that the players attitude has been poor and in fact it’s felt more like praise at times when discussing the player .

It looks like we are losing a player now who has been one of our standouts and yet at one point felt the need to ask “ why do the fans not like me? “ while it’s disappointing the way it’s went with Youan with his injuries he is an incredibly good player who can be a match winner and hopefully with a good pre-season and staying injury free can have a positive impact for us this season…

I don’t get the negativity towards him and if anything we should as fans be backing , giving him more support due to the time he’s been out injured IMO .

[Bobby's Cinema]

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I think Hibs and Elie Youan need a fresh start. I don't see him being able to play as a wingback and I'm not convinced he is an out and out striker who can play as 1 of the 2 front options.

Moving him on allows us to bring in someone else, and him to move on and thrive elsewhere.

With him moving into the last year of his deal, I'd rather money was made available from his transfer than to lose him for nothing.

I think we can safely rule that out. It's been more than a bit disappointing the way it's panned out after he went on a mini redemption at the start of our unbeaten run. Whatever his situation is if he's not going to play then let's move on.

[B.H.F.C]

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The keepie-uppie issue is just a distraction from the main issue …… does he see himself with a future at Hibs. Supporters are divided, some think everything is hunky dory and others suspect something doesn’t ring true. I would have thought the air could easily have cleared by a brief video interview with the player. SDG’s occasional, brief comments on the situation don’t seem to have quelled the speculation.

I don’t think any videos or whatever would greatly change anyone’s opinion. Managers and players say what they need to say in the media a lot of the time. Folk, generally, just base their opinions on what they see in front of them on the pitch though. For one reason or another, we’ve seen little of Youan in a positive sense over the last 18 months. If he comes back and starts the season well, is rattling in the goals, then there will be a whole different conversation. You only need to look at the conversation on Boyle and how that shifted since December. Before that there were folk talking about him being finished.

[Speedy]

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The keeping-uppie was another example of things getting totally blown out of portion by certain pundits and our own fans to a degree when it was quite clear the manager / staff and his teammates didn’t see a problem. Remember seeing Maradona doing exactly the same for Napoli .

The other conspiracy theories on him faking his injuries and refusing to play I haven’t bought into either as I don’t think he has anything to gain at all by faking injuries or refusing to play especially as some say he doesn’t want to be here and wants a move , Gray said he’s at his most happiest when playing football and also said at one time when he got injured that it was in an attempt to win a ball he didn’t have too . Gray has never given any indication that the players attitude has been poor and in fact it’s felt more like praise at times when discussing the player .

It looks like we are losing a player now who has been one of our standouts and yet at one point felt the need to ask “ why do the fans not like me? “ while it’s disappointing the way it’s went with Youan with his injuries he is an incredibly good player who can be a match winner and hopefully with a good pre-season and staying injury free can have a positive impact for us this season…

I don’t get the negativity towards him and if anything we should as fans be backing , giving him more support due to the time he’s been out injured IMO .

Agreed. The keeper uppie thing was a farce. He was needlessly singled out and still Michael Stewart hasn't stopped putting the boot in.

Maybe there's a point around why all the players were looking disjointed and lacking concentration around the rest of the game. But where is the manager, where is the captain to rally the troops.

Elie was hard done by there.

[theonlywayisup]

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It looks like we are losing a player now who has been one of our standouts and yet at one point felt the need to ask “ why do the fans not like me? “ while it’s disappointing the way it’s went with Youan with his injuries he is an incredibly good player who can be a match winner and hopefully with a good pre-season and staying injury free can have a positive impact for us this season…

I don’t get the negativity towards him and if anything we should as fans be backing , giving him more support due to the time he’s been out injured IMO .

Standout? Not in season 2024/25.

Fans will always back players who give 100%, even if they are not that good. Players who fail to give 100% will get criticised. There were times last season Youan looked like he wasn't giving 100%, albeit in a poorly performing team.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Standout? Not in season 2024/25.

Fans will always back players who give 100%, even if they are not that good. Players who fail to give 100% will get criticised. There were times last season Youan looked like he wasn't giving 100%, albeit in a poorly performing team.

Player I was referring to as the standout that made the “ why don’t the fans like me “ comment was Rocky . Josh Campbell will be delighted with this latest news btw

[Thatdayinmay16]

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Player I was referring to as the standout that made the “ why don’t the fans like me “ comment was Rocky . Josh Campbell will be delighted with this latest news btw

Not the same though is it, Youan and Josh Campbells talent are completely incomparable.

[superfurryhibby]

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Standout? Not in season 2024/25.

Fans will always back players who give 100%, even if they are not that good. Players who fail to give 100% will get criticised. There were times last season Youan looked like he wasn't giving 100%, albeit in a poorly performing team.

Youan was injured in the League Cup group stages and didn't return to the starting 11 until the end of October. His ten starts thereafter saw mixed results, with three loses amongst them and some notable victories, including those v Hearts and Aberdeen away. He always looked like he was giving 100% to me, I don't think Gray tolerates anything less.

[Donegal Hibby]

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Not the same though is it, Youan and Josh Campbells talent are completely incomparable.

Both are different in one is skilful, tricky and the other is about work rate and energy . The point was that the other poster said fans will always back players who give 100% and I don’t think that is an entirety accurate comment , it’s certainly not in Campbells case and also possibly in Hanlon and Stevenson’s at times too .

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EY may get firing again get a decent move or leave and drift from club to club

[Billy Bunter 07]

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I don’t think anyone would argue that it’s been disappointing to not see more of Youan the last 18 months, so that’s nonsense.

Hows he going to cost the club millions?

His sell on value should be a lot more than it is.

[Billy Bunter 07]

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What's that got to do with you're fantasy that he'll be "hungry and firing on all cylinders helping us in Europe and the league thus helping us make money while attracting potential interest from clubs in January."

There's little or no evidence in the last 12 months or more of that happening. He'd be lucky to find himself an a starting 11 at Hibs right now.

Exactly, people will say you are being negative but you are being totally realistic based on past experience, something that we can draw on.

[Sioux]

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Exactly, people will say you are being negative but you are being totally realistic based on past experience, something that we can draw on.

Thanks.

[easty]

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His sell on value should be a lot more than it is.

That doesn’t make sense.

A player isn’t costing the club by not being worth as much as you want him to be.

I cannae even begin to work out how you’ve come up with that

[InvertedFullBak]

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I could quite easily see him move back to France and play at a higher level than Hibs. Has the quality to do so.

He has the quality and ability to do so but he certainly doesn’t have the attitude and application to do so.

His attitude and social media antics over the last 18 months have been dreadful.

I’d be very surprised if someone buys him in this window and we will end up losing him for nothing this time next season.

[InvertedFullBak]

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His sell on value should be a lot more than it is.

You’re spot on. We should have a player who’s been wonderful over the last 18 months but unfortunately he’s stunk the place out , hardly played. We should be looking at between £1m-£2m but we’d be lucky to get £500,000 at the minute.