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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe6-2 View Post
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    What annoys me is he’s collecting a wage packet, should be more info on him
    aye a paid employee collecting his wage, annoying. 🙄

    Confidentiality is vital in every workplace even football. Elie deserves respect. I notice he’s very quiet on socials too, there may be a lot more to it.

    Great football player, let’s hope he finds his form again whether it be here or elsewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centre Hawf View Post
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    I think he at least was worth millions. £2m for him has never really felt like it was unrealistic, especially when he was playing well. Even when he wasn’t you could see the remnants of a real sellable asset.

    I don’t know what’s happening anymore. But I suspect we’ll never see him play again at this rate. Even if nothing sinister is happening and he is injured it’s a difficult scenario to see him fit and ready to make a difference now. I personally feel like something has happened or there’s a lack of seeing eye to eye somewhere along the line since Tynecastle.
    £2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew70 View Post
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    aye a paid employee collecting his wage, annoying. 🙄

    Confidentiality is vital in every workplace even football. Elie deserves respect. I notice he’s very quiet on socials too, there may be a lot more to it.

    Great football player, let’s hope he finds his form again whether it be here or elsewhere.
    Interesting you mention his socials. Fair point, and I hadn’t even noticed he’d gone quiet.

    It’s to his credit that he’s keeping quiet there right now and not doing anything to invite criticism, warranted or otherwise.

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    £2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.
    I think 18 months ago it was potentially realistic if he had 'done a Rocky' and went on a great run of really consistent performances.

    He's 26 in a couple of days though and he's not really all that different from the player we signed back in 2022. A bit of a maverick, clear ability and a lot of upside but not really good enough or consistent enough for a level all that much higher. He's also suffered 2 long term injuries this season, whatever the nature of those injuries it's inarguable both kept him out for significant spells.

    You might still get a coach who believes he can coach consistency and football IQ (insert Lee Johnson smile) into him but at his age and having played almost 150 games I don't think many are going to drop multiple millions on him. He's really at a stage where he has to be close to finished article rather than project with potential. £750K this summer and I'm pretty sure we'd deal, particularly given his contract situation. I'd even argue that isn't a bad deal for us; we signed him for somewhere south of that figure and have had a half decent return on the field.

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    It’s not really. Players get injured a lot and are frequently out longer than anticipated. See JDH, Newell etc.

    The rest is in people’s own heads.
    As is all your guesswork.

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    aye a paid employee collecting his wage, annoying. 🙄

    Confidentiality is vital in every workplace even football. Elie deserves respect. I notice he’s very quiet on socials too, there may be a lot more to it.

    Great football player, let’s hope he finds his form again whether it be here or elsewhere.
    Yes, a "great football player" collecting a wage for doing very little for his wage, especially being that "great football player".

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    As is all your guesswork.
    Not guesswork, no.

    Every theory about him has proven to not be correct.

    As I’ve said before my daughter’s partner is a first team player so I get to know a fair bit about the players as people.

    The perception of Youan is completely wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityHFC View Post
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    Not guesswork, no.

    Every theory about him has proven to not be correct.

    As I’ve said before my daughter’s partner is a first team player so I get to know a fair bit about the players as people.

    The perception of Youan is completely wrong.
    Seriously though. As if any current player is going to bad mouth him to you regardless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    £2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.
    Has it?

    Prior to this season he had played 80 games for Hibs, scoring 19 goals and getting 18 assists. Keeping in mind he’s far from an out and out striker and he had only just turned 25. His output for that type of player was very, very good, and those types of players tend to be some of the more expensive.

    It’s possibly a fanciful valuation now because he hasn’t done much this season and his contract is running down but £2m was never a fanciful figure in summer 2024 for example imo.
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    Brief update from Gray in latest Observer. Another set back on toe but maybe available this weekend.

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    Happy Birthday Elie 26 today

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    Haste ye back !


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    Whenever he is available agsin he will be miles off being match fit
    Given we need to try and keeping as many games as we can to try and finish third , am not sure we can afford to give him a lot of game time to get him up to speed unless we find ourselves a few goals up
    Even against Celtic he was losing the ball and not going by players and part of that will be him not bring match fit So cameos off bench at best

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    Whenever he is available agsin he will be miles off being match fit
    Given we need to try and keeping as many games as we can to try and finish third , am not sure we can afford to give him a lot of game time to get him up to speed unless we find ourselves a few goals up
    Even against Celtic he was losing the ball and not going by players and part of that will be him not bring match fit So cameos off bench at best
    Even a 90% fit Youan coming on with 15 to go has the potential to worry any defence.

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    Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIP View Post
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    Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?
    I broke my big toe when I was 15, really painful and messed with my balance, had a stookie up to my knee for 4 weeks.
    It happened at the end of May, I missed all of preseason and didn't play again till into September. Horrible injury.

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    Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?
    Had a niggling pain in my 2nd toe when c.15 years old which stopped me running from around early March. Just kept coming back after a week/couple of weeks rest. It was eventually, after two x-rays, confirmed as a stress fracture. Reckon I was off running for close to 6 months in total but that included c.2 months of mis-diagnosis and misguided attempts to keep going.

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    Really hope he's getting some good recuperation for his sore toe and he's back match fit for the start of the European campaign. We'll need him as he adds a bit of class, like his goal in Switzerland two seasons ago.

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    Really hope he's getting some good recuperation for his sore toe and he's back match fit for the start of the European campaign. We'll need him as he adds a bit of class, like his goal in Switzerland two seasons ago.
    Rather he was away and money was spent on a replacement by then tbf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIP View Post
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    Out of interest, are there any posters on here who have experienced a toe injury? How long do such injuries take to heal?
    Broken toes twice in my life. Wasn't quite on the scale of broken ribs but the healing time was lengthy nevertheless.

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    Really hope he's getting some good recuperation for his sore toe and he's back match fit for the start of the European campaign. We'll need him as he adds a bit of class, like his goal in Switzerland two seasons ago.
    David Gray said towards the end of the season that a knee injury had also hampered him getting fit so wasn’t just the toe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrinityHFC View Post
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    David Gray said towards the end of the season that a knee injury had also hampered him getting fit so wasn’t just the toe.
    Head and shoulders also

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    Head and shoulders also
    Very good 👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billy Whizz View Post
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    Head and shoulders also
    Eyes, ears, mouth and nose, none too clever either.

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    I noticed an English cricketer recently recovered from a 6 month toe injury was saying it was so painful he seriously considered having it amputated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ancient hibee View Post
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    I noticed an English cricketer recently recovered from a 6 month toe injury was saying it was so painful he seriously considered having it amputated.
    It killed one of the most famous Hibbies of all time: Bob Marley.

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    Any potential transfer depends on the suitability of local Chiropodists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smartie View Post
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    £2m for Youan has always felt like pie in the sky to me. It’s a number based on a theoretical potential level of performance that you could talk yourself into believing was possible but deep down you know is never actually going to happen consistently enough for anyone, ever, in order to justify the fee.

    For a 26 year old with his ability, an absolute steal at that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Tubs View Post
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    It killed one of the most famous Hibbies of all time: Bob Marley.
    Dealt a Bad Card with that injury.

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    The last I remember of him was coming on against Celtic in the Scottish cup game. He got criticised for his efforts that day, but to me ( I was there ) it looked like he was trying to create something on his own for a team that didn't do much up front that day, not something I was prepared to have a go at him for, even if it didn't work out.

    The question is, can we see the Elie Youan able to beat his man and set up and score goals on a regular basis, or do we get more of what we had last season, a guy unlucky with injuries and often left on the bench even when he was fit? If he could stay injury free and be more consistent he would be a massive asset .... but it's a big 'if' as things stand. Which makes me think Hibs would probably listen to any reasonable offer.

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