Scotland v Iceland

[ekhibee]

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A friendly start with younger non capped but no Clarke baffling ffs poor young Gk actually feel sorry for laddie hope it won’t affect him and his progress

This.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

[bingo70]

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I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

Good post.

IMO if you were to take away the financial consequences of someone losing their job or the compensation involved and have a good conversation between the SFA and Clarke about the best way forward, I would be surprised if they came to the conclusion that Clarke was the best man going forward. Just now he’s staying on because he’d love to take us to a World Cup and he probably, understandably feels he’s earned the right to give that a go. That doesn’t mean it’s the right thing to happen though.

I hope common sense prevails and he leaves sooner rather than later.

[Speedy]

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Didn't see the game (hadn't even been aware it was on tbh), but I've just read about this. You wouldn't bring an outfield player into the squad with so little experience and to throw that keeper into the mix was just ridiculous, irresponsible in fact.

Relieved to see Bowie was kept on the bench. We don't want him running any unnecessary injury risks.

People seem to be forgetting he had 17 caps for the u21s and was the first choice in that team for a long time.

They've not just dragged him off the streets.

[overdrive]

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People seem to be forgetting he had 17 caps for the u21s and was the first choice in that team for a long time.

They've not just dragged him off the streets.

I don’t think he’d have got on had McCrorie not got injured in the warmup.

[JimBHibees]

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I don’t think he’d have got on had McCrorie not got injured in the warmup.

Pretty clear Mcrorie would have started i think if not injured

[EdinMike]

Smudge doesn’t happen to have a hidden Scottish Granny does he ?! 😅

[JimBHibees]

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I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

Completely agree the insistence of the old guard for so long in a meaningless friendly was quite odd given the amount of game time most will have had. Half of them looked knackered

[Glory Lurker]

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Smudge doesn’t happen to have a hidden Scottish Granny does he ?! 😅

I'm sure he was at school with me. We always slagged him about how easy his paper round was.

[Musselbound]

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Pretty clear Mcrorie would have started i think if not injured

I've been critical of Clarke for many reasons. It feels like it's about time for a change. But when you read how bad the goalkeeping crisis is, I'm not going to criticise him too much for the goalkeeping situation last night. He wouldn't have had any intention of playing Slicker and you can't really legislate for having to bring on your third choice, especially early in the game.

That's a lot of bad luck though it doesn't excuse for a moment the overall Scotland performance.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87j23w1438o

[Speedy]

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I don’t think he’d have got on had McCrorie not got injured in the warmup.

Totally agree. McCrorie would've been ahead.

He's not much better imo. But yes, McCrorie was 2nd choice.

[Speedy]

For what it is worth, I think Clarke should and perhaps would have played Slicker for 45 mins regardless over the two games.

Only way he'd get experience.

[McD]

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I've generally been behind Clarke and championed him to stay despite the poor euros

Yesterday was probably the first point where I've thought "does a change benefit everyone?"

We're too talented in the middle of the park to let this group just fade out of love playing for Scotland.

Result aside, the selection and then performance were baffling. Mckenna, doig, hendry and Bowie/Wilson should all have started on come on for at least 30 mins

We know what Robbo, McTominay etc give. Last night was a lose/lose situation when the teams were announced and weve come out with worst case scenario. Stubbornness got Strachan in the end, it might go the same way for Clarke

There was no need for Robertson to complete the 90 yesterday, why not give Doig the second half or last half hour? Same with Adams, why bring him in when you could give Bowie or Wilson a run out and see how they do (aware that Wilson has had some minutes in the last match)? Souttar and McKenna should have started at centre back, what did we gain by another match of grant Hanley? Whether any of us think he’s good enough or not (I dont), at some point he won’t be there for whatever reason, why not give souttar and McKenna a chance to play together, and see how they do?


It was good to see Johnson finally get a game at right back, although it should have happened ages ago.

[GreenNWhiteArmy]

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There was no need for Robertson to complete the 90 yesterday, why not give Doig the second half or last half hour? Same with Adams, why bring him in when you could give Bowie or Wilson a run out and see how they do (aware that Wilson has had some minutes in the last match)? Souttar and McKenna should have started at centre back, what did we gain by another match of grant Hanley? Whether any of us think he’s good enough or not (I dont), at some point he won’t be there for whatever reason, why not give souttar and McKenna a chance to play together, and see how they do?


It was good to see Johnson finally get a game at right back, although it should have happened ages ago.

100%

I'm not advocating for an entirely different 11. I think we could retain 5 or 6 like souttar, gilmour, Tierney, ferguson (whos still relatively new to the side himself) and Mcginn

It all just feels a bit stale and last night felt like a chance to blood some new fresh energy from the guys weve mentioned

[RIP]

Another telling sign of a team that plays for each other is the protection that they give to their keepers.

McRorie getting injured in the warm up would have highlighted Gunn as vulnerable. A long throw to the front post and he's leaping without any protection against the lanky Icelandic striker.

It was noticeable that the forward made no effort whatsoever to head the ball. His sole aim seemed to be to focus on contact.

For the second goal, Iceland put their most physical guy in front of Slicker who then proceeds to hold the keepers arms and pushes him backwards into the goal.

They were a dirty team, well versed in the Dark Arts. We gave both keepers no protection at all.

Not why we lost perhaps but sadly indicative of a lack of defensive cohesion. A group of individuals rather than a team.

[ferry hibby]

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Another telling sign of a team that plays for each other is the protection that they give to their keepers.

McRorie getting injured in the warm up would have highlighted Gunn as vulnerable. A long throw to the front post and he's leaping without any protection against the lanky Icelandic striker.

It was noticeable that the forward made no effort whatsoever to head the ball. His sole aim seemed to be to focus on contact.

For the second goal, Iceland put their most physical guy in front of Slicker who then proceeds to hold the keepers arms and pushes him backwards into the goal.

They were a dirty team, well versed in the Dark Arts. We gave both keepers no protection at all.

Not why we lost perhaps but sadly indicative of a lack of defensive cohesion. A group of individuals rather than a team.

Could not believe we did not have someone blocking off their forward to give some protection to the keeper rather than have contest with the forward and still try and get to the ball

[BILLYHIBS]

Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

[Iain G]

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Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

Is that the bottom of that barrel being scraped even further?

[Pretty Boy]

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Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

McKenna was already unofficially with the squad anyway to train. I think that probably says a lot about how highly he is thought of within the Scotland system.

He needs games now though. He was playing 1st team football at 16, he's been in the Bournemouth match day squad last season at 18 but what he needs is a season playing 30+ games at a decent level.

[BILLYHIBS]

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McKenna was already unofficially with the squad anyway to train. I think that probably says a lot about how highly he is thought of within the Scotland system.

He needs games now though. He was playing 1st team football at 16, he's been in the Bournemouth match day squad last season at 18 but what he needs is a season playing 30+ games at a decent level.

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[Bridge hibs]

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Scotland call up goalkeepers Ross Doohan ( free agent ) and Callan McKenna ( Bournemouth) for the Liechtenstein game

Angus Gunn and Robby McCrorie have left the squad

Didnt know McKenna was a hibs youth keeper

[JimBHibees]

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McKenna was already unofficially with the squad anyway to train. I think that probably says a lot about how highly he is thought of within the Scotland system.

He needs games now though. He was playing 1st team football at 16, he's been in the Bournemouth match day squad last season at 18 but what he needs is a season playing 30+ games at a decent level.

Who was he playing for at 16?

[bingo70]

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Who was he playing for at 16?

Queens Park.

[JimBHibees]

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Queens Park.

Ta

[DH1875]

Think we could see McKeena at ER in the next season or two.

See that McTominay is out of tomorrow game now as well.

[cabbageandribs1875]

Tierney carrying a knock and didn't travel



honest

[Thatdayinmay16]

Has Osama Bin Clarke been sacked yet?

[Musselbound]

I don't think it's a bad thing McTominay is out really. Obviously one or our most important players but we know what he can do and he looked tired v Iceland.

Tierney could do with games but seems to be forever injured.

In theory it should be an opportunity for others and if we can't beat Lichtenstein without these players then the games up really.

[JimBHibees]

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Has Osama Bin Clarke been sacked yet?

Hilarious

[HoboHarry]

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Has Osama Bin Clarke been sacked yet?

Was that hilarious in your head?