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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    We drop to the conference league playoff round, which is an all or nothing tie to enter the conference league groups or go home.
    Aye, just found it. It’s a tough ask if we’re going into each round unseeded. Would be one of the clubs biggest accomplishments reaching the league stage of either!


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    Aye, just found it. It’s a tough ask if we’re going into each round unseeded. Would be one of the clubs biggest accomplishments reaching the league stage of either!
    We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

    If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

    Seeded:
    “Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

    If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

    Seeded:
    “5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

    I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

    As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

    If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

    Seeded:
    “Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

    If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

    Seeded:
    “5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

    I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

    As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.
    Thanks Paul, just get through this one and hope for the best, eh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BS44 View Post
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    Braga’s stadium is iconic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

    If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

    Seeded:
    “Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“


    If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

    Seeded:
    “5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

    I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

    As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.
    When did that change? It was "confirmed" that the loser of the tie involving Hibernian would be unseeded in the CL QR 3 when I looked a couple of weeks ago. The wikipedia entry has now moved us/our Europa League opponents to the be confirmed column from the unseeded column.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveHFC View Post
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    Braga’s stadium is iconic.
    Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

    If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

    Seeded:
    “Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“

    If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

    Seeded:
    “5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

    I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

    As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.
    Don't think this is quite right - if we were in the Europa Q3 when the conference play-off draw was made we would be unseeded no matter who we are playing. As UEFA assume the unseeded team will lose, so use their coefficient in the draw for the next round in the lower tiered competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul1642 View Post
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    We are confirmed un-seeded in Europa League QR2. To be seeded in QR3 we would need to beat Shakhtar, Braga, Anderlecht or Midtjylland. All very tough task. In terms of being seeded should we drop to the Conference league, Wikipedia has the following.

    If we drop to Conference league QR3 by loosing our very first tie:

    Seeded:
    “Loser of the tie involving Scotland Hibernian“


    If we drop to the Conference league playoff round by winning our first tie, then losing our second:

    Seeded:
    “5 losers of the Europa League third qualifying round”

    I have no idea what draw would result in us being one of those five teams but it sounds like it is possible.

    As far I can tell, drawing to play against, and winning the easiest draw possible in QR2 (FC Sheriff?), then drawing to play against in QR3 one of the 5 teams that would make us seeded for the conference league playoffs should we loose, is our best path to group stage football.
    I don't think that is correct, there are 13 unseeded teams with a higher coefficient than us. This website is far more accurate than Wikipedia when it comes to these things,

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/seedco2025.html

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    Yeah, the wiki pages for these European competitions change by the day. Us and other teams have switched between 'seeded / unconfirmed /unseeded' over the last couple of weeks.

    Maybe closer to the draw they will be authentic, but as it stands no one knows really if the easier path to league stage football by Christmas is via the Europa or Conference League.

    We could be drawn against Braga in the Europa League, get punted, then AZ Alkmaar in the Conference League and we will be out. Know this is negative but these would be a couple of good trips.

    It will be clearer in two weeks time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibees1973 View Post
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    Yeah, the wiki pages for these European competitions change by the day. Us and other teams have switched between 'seeded / unconfirmed /unseeded' over the last couple of weeks.

    Maybe closer to the draw they will be authentic, but as it stands no one knows really if the easier path to league stage football by Christmas is via the Europa or Conference League.

    We could be drawn against Braga in the Europa League, get punted, then AZ Alkmaar in the Conference League and we will be out. Know this is negative but these would be a couple of good trips.

    It will be clearer in two weeks time.
    The Bert kassies site listed above is generally better than the wikipedia, I've found

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    Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalkeith Hibs View Post
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    Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?
    Why are Lugano not using their own ground?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalkeith Hibs View Post
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    Has it been announced where Lugano & Shakhtar will be playing there home games?
    FC Thun's ground for Lugano. I don't think Lugano's ground is UEFA compliant, looks like it will be in 2026 after some work. https://www.fclugano.com/thun-ospitera-lfc-lugano/

    Shakhtar were playing last seasons European games at Schalke's stadium. There is an article indicating they'll be moving to Krakow for European games this season though.https://sportnews.az/en/football/sha...ches-in-poland
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoopyboy View Post
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    Why are Lugano not using their own ground?
    Doesn’t meet UEFA requirements.

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    FC Thun's ground for Lugano. I don't think Lugano's ground is UEFA compliant, looks like it will be in 2026 after some work. https://www.fclugano.com/thun-ospitera-lfc-lugano/

    Shakhtar were playing last seasons European games at Schalke's stadium. There is an article indicating they'll be moving to Krakow for European games this season though.https://sportnews.az/en/football/sha...ches-in-poland
    Thun is beautiful and easy to get to from Geneva and Basel. Suppose not hugely different to Luzern but still, good trip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Thun is beautiful and easy to get to from Geneva and Basel. Suppose not hugely different to Luzern but still, good trip.
    Hotels are more expensive than basel
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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC93 View Post
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    Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.
    I'm not sure we'd get a doing, we'd very likely lose the tie but I don't think they're anything close to Villa who absolutely schooled us. If we had the first tie at home I think we'd be competitive, probably lose by a couple over there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Since90+2 View Post
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    I'm not sure we'd get a doing, we'd very likely lose the tie but I don't think they're anything close to Villa who absolutely schooled us. If we had the first tie at home I think we'd be competitive, probably lose by a couple over there though.
    I think a lot could depend on when seasons start. If we are a week or two ahead of our opposition in terms of preparing for the season ahead, that could be a bit of a leveller as well. Same applies in reverse unfortunately too.

    If you’re talking about a gulf as big as it was between us and Villa then it won’t make that much of a difference but if it’s a team comparable with the likes of rangers and Celtic then it’d give us a bit more of a chance.
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    Apparently shakhtar will play their home games in Poland , behind closed doors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS View Post
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    Apparently shakhtar will play their home games in Poland , behind closed doors.
    Where are you seeing behind closed doors? They didn't last season so not sure why Krakow will be different.

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    Where are you seeing behind closed doors? They didn't last season so not sure why Krakow will be different.
    They played in Germany last year I think, UEFA generally don’t allow netraul venues open to fans.
    I’m Mabye wrong, as Krakow would be brilliant.👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS View Post
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    They played in Germany last year I think, UEFA generally don’t allow netraul venues open to fans.
    I’m Mabye wrong, as Krakow would be brilliant.👍
    They played at the Schalke arena and fans were permitted.

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    They played at the Schalke arena and fans were permitted.
    Thanks
    Hopefully we all meet in Krakow 👍

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    Dynamo Kyiv had fans at their “home” games last season as well (they played in Hamburg). Belarusian teams have been ordered to play behind closed doors due to Belarus’s support for Russia in the Ukraine conflict, so Hearts had no fans away to Dinamo Minsk.

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    Quite fancy the look of Lugano and always planned on making the trip to lake Como. Pity they don't play there in European games as would have been ideal excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFC93 View Post
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    Braga would be an unbelievable trip. We'd get a doing though as they're a top team.
    Father's family came from Braga before going to Brasil. Good for the religious fans to.

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    Apologies if this has already been said but looking at the teams in the QR1 draw, Partizan Belgrade and FC Prishtina will be kept apart in the pre draw groupings. Meaning the winners of both ties will then also be kept apart in our draw on Wednesday.

    Might no mean much for us but be interesting to see who Prishtina get on Tuesday to at least then narrow down who one of the seeded teams will be in each grouping on Wednesday

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonC1875 View Post
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    Apologies if this has already been said but looking at the teams in the QR1 draw, Partizan Belgrade and FC Prishtina will be kept apart in the pre draw groupings. Meaning the winners of both ties will then also be kept apart in our draw on Wednesday.

    Might no mean much for us but be interesting to see who Prishtina get on Tuesday to at least then narrow down who one of the seeded teams will be in each grouping on Wednesday
    The groupings are set to be out at 8am on Wednesday before the draw at midday.

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    The groupings are set to be out at 8am on Wednesday before the draw at midday.
    We’re will we find the information, IEFA site ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HIBS NUTS View Post
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    We’re will we find the information, IEFA site ?
    Yeah I presume so here - https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/draws/

    The club will also be notified and likely publish it on socials.

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