Potential Opponents

[HNA11]

Thread now reopened.

Spending a Thursday morning from 7am reading through 7 pages and removing countless posts wasn't how I planned to start my day.

The point has been made before that members of the admin team aren't unfeeling robots, we all have our own thoughts on the situation in Gaza and Ukraine. However this part of the forum is a football board and much of the discussion had little to nothing to do with Hibs or football. To be really blunt we aren't here to police that and the many reported posts that go with it.

Apologies to anyone caught up in this who has had posts deleted because of something they quoted or that was borederline but we have bene fairly ruthless.

Please take the warnings on board and keep this thread to football. Thanks.

[LancsHibs]

Looks like the teams involved are pretty much sorted on the wiki page except the Swiss entrants! Young Boys or Lugano, seems to depend on today’s Swiss cup final that doesn’t involve either of these clubs? Too complicated for me to work out!!

[SHODAN]

Dunfermline away please.

[SteveHFC]

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Looks like the teams involved are pretty much sorted on the wiki page except the Swiss entrants! Young Boys or Lugano, seems to depend on today’s Swiss cup final that doesn’t involve either of these clubs? Too complicated for me to work out!!

Basel win then young boys in playoff round and lugano in our round

[Bristolhibby]

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Basel win then young boys in playoff round and lugano in our round

That’s what we want surely? No way we want to be playing Young Boys at this stage.

J

[SteveHFC]

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That’s what we want surely? No way we want to be playing Young Boys at this stage.

J

Think I have heard this before but basle win it easily

[Wilson]

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Think I have heard this before but basle win it easily

Funnily enough though, it is Young Boys that this team beat in the last round!

[SteveHFC]

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Funnily enough though, it is Young Boys that this team beat in the last round!

Could be tight game and knowing our luck!

[SteveHFC]

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Could be tight game and knowing our luck!

0-0 after 15mins
Biel-Bienne 3rd tier team and play in all red what could go wrong

[Wilson]

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0-0 after 15mins
Biel-Bienne 3rd tier team and play in all red what could go wrong

I was loathe to mention that Basel II beat them in the league. It sounds scarily similar to the "Celtic second string" argument! Still. Come on Basel!

[SteveHFC]

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I was loathe to mention that Basel II beat them in the league. It sounds scarily similar to the "Celtic second string" argument! Still. Come on Basel!

1-0 Basel ht

Now 4-1 basle lugano it is

[LancsHibs]

4-1 Basel now, 80 mins played

[Wilson]

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4-1 Basel now, 80 mins played

Our luck is turning. Supporting hibs has become more stressful when we're NOT playing!

[LancsHibs]

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Our luck is turning. Supporting hibs has become more stressful when we're NOT playing!

Ha ha, true, last weekends cup final was too much!!

[badabing67]

I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Winner of the tie involving Shakhtar Donetsk
Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

[Dashing Bob S]

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I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

Revenge tie v Anderlecht

0-2 Hibs at CVDS
1-1 at ER

[bingo70]

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I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

Hibs observer are saying that although they don’t regionalise the draw, they sort of informally do by splitting the draw into two sections and generally try to keep countries close to each other together. I can’t be others looking for the article but they suggested teams from Northern Europe would always get out in the same section as British teams. I’d guess from that there’s a higher chance we will get midgetland, Utrecht or Anderlecht than some of the other further afield sides?

Edit:- I think you’re missing a team from the seeded section? Should that be shakhtar donetsk?

[The Sundance Kid]

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Hibs observer are saying that although they don’t regionalise the draw, they sort of informally do by splitting the draw into two sections and generally try to keep countries close to each other together. I can’t be others looking for the article but they suggested teams from Northern Europe would always get out in the same section as British teams. I’d guess from that there’s a higher chance we will get midgetland, Utrecht or Anderlecht than some of the other further afield sides?

I did read that but not entirely sure how correct it is. We’ve played the likes of Asteras, Maribor, Rijeka etc. from South-East Europe over the last few years and I’m not sure how they would fit into regionalising.

[badabing67]

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I guess we will find out on the 17th all the teams that could be involved in the Second qualifying round.

The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 17 June 2025
The draw for the second qualifying round will be held on 18 June 2025
The draw for the third qualifying round will be held on 21 July 2025

Seeded

Winner of the tie involving Shakhtar Donetsk
Portugal Braga
Denmark Midtjylland
Winner of the tie involving Poland Legia Warsaw
Belgium Anderlecht
Winner of the tie involving Serbia Partizan
Winner of the tie involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol
Switzerland Lugano

Unseeded

Winner of the tie involving Romania CFR Cluj
Winner of the tie involving Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva
Turkey Beşiktaş
Winner of the tie involving Slovenia Celje
Netherlands Utrecht
Czech Republic Baník Ostrava
Winner of the tie involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava
Scotland Hibernian

FTFY Bingo

[JeMeSouviens]

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I did read that but not entirely sure how correct it is. We’ve played the likes of Asteras, Maribor, Rijeka etc. from South-East Europe over the last few years and I’m not sure how they would fit into regionalising.

These are the groups from the EL QR2 draw last year (copied from https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleagu...g-round-draw/:

Groupings

Group 1

Seeded:
AFC Ajax (NED)
Molde FK (NOR)
SK Rapid Wien (AUT)
Trabzonspor A.Ş. (TUR)
Cercle Brugge KSV (BEL)

Unseeded:
MFK Ružomberok (SVK) - FC Tobol (KAZ)
Kilmarnock FC (SCO)
Silkeborg IF (DEN)
FK Vojvodina (SRB)
KF Llapi 1932 (KOS) - Wisła Kraków (POL)

Group 2

Seeded:
SC Braga (POR)
FC Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA) - PFC Zire (AZE)
HNK Rijeka (CRO)
PFC Botev Plovdiv (BUL) - NK Maribor (SVN)

Unseeded:
Panathinaikos FC (GRE)
Maccabi Petah Tikva FC (ISR)
IF Elfsborg (SWE) - Pafos FC (CYP)
Paksi FC (HUN) - FC Corvinul Hunedoara (ROU)

It doesn't mention regions but does say:

The UEFA administration may form groups for the draw in accordance with the principles set by the Club Competitions Committee. Clubs from the same association cannot be drawn against each other.

A draw is conducted to determine the ties of each match and which team plays the first leg match at home.

In accordance with the relevant decisions of the UEFA Executive Committee, teams from the following associations may not be drawn against each other:

Armenia – Azerbaijan
Gibraltar – Spain
Kosovo – Bosnia and Herzegovina
Kosovo – Serbia
Kosovo – Russia*
Ukraine – Russia*
Ukraine – Belarus

Clear as mud.

I guess there's a bit of politics going on. The Serbs are kept away from Croats and Slovenes, Turks from Greek Cypriots etc.

[CapitalGreen]

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These are the groups from the EL QR2 draw last year (copied from https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleagu...g-round-draw/:



It doesn't mention regions but does say:



Clear as mud.

I guess there's a bit of politics going on. The Serbs are kept away from Croats and Slovenes, Turks from Greek Cypriots etc.

Looks like the regionalisation is applied to the unseeded teams only.

[Green Man]

Every year the European draws come round, I go looking for the “principles set by the club competitions committee”. I’ve never been able to find them.

Edit: I’ve actually found them this time, this is the version for the season just ended: https://editorial.uefa.com/resources...r_ko_phase.pdf

Still doesn’t make it clear how they decide on the groupings

[overdrive]

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Hibs observer are saying that although they don’t regionalise the draw, they sort of informally do by splitting the draw into two sections and generally try to keep countries close to each other together. I can’t be others looking for the article but they suggested teams from Northern Europe would always get out in the same section as British teams. I’d guess from that there’s a higher chance we will get midgetland, Utrecht or Anderlecht than some of the other further afield sides?

Edit:- I think you’re missing a team from the seeded section? Should that be shakhtar donetsk?

I don't think we can draw Utrecht as they are unseeded too.

[BS44]

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[bingo70]

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So one of Braga, midtjylland, Anderlecht or Lugano.

I know midtjylland have done well in Europe recently but would they be likely to lose players most summers on the back of doing well? I know we’d be big underdogs but would we have any sort of a chance against them?

[Paul1642]

Teams we can face in QR2:

Seeded confirmed in QR2
Braga
Midtjylland
Anderlecht
Lugano

Seeded if they win in QR1:
Shakhtar
Legia Warsaw
Sheriff
Partizan

Unseeded from QR1 who we could only face if they win against Shakhtar, Sheriff, Partizan or Warsaw in QR1:

Larnaca
Häcken
Paks
Levski Sofia
Sabah
Ilves
Aktobe
Prishtina

[I'm_cabbaged]

Sorry I’ve missed it, but happens if we win this and lose the 3rd qualifying round?

[Paul1642]

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So one of Braga, midtjylland, Anderlecht or Lugano.

I know midtjylland have done well in Europe recently but would they be likely to lose players most summers on the back of doing well? I know we’d be big underdogs but would we have any sort of a chance against them?

I’d say it’d be very difficult. At glance, they seem about on par with Lugano but with the benefit for us that Midtjylland would be seeded in QR3 unlike Lugano so it’s probably the preferable of the two since we would become seeded for QR3 by beating them. Probably the joint 4th hardest draw after Shakhtar, Braga and Anderlecht.

We would be playing them right at the start of their League which historically seems to benefit Scandinavian teams in the early stages of Europe, though they do start a lot later than the Swedish and Norwegian leagues so it’s less of a factor.

[Paul1642]

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Sorry I’ve missed it, but happens if we win this and lose the 3rd qualifying round?

We drop to the conference league playoff round, which is an all or nothing tie to enter the conference league groups or go home.

[Del Boy]

anyone tell me what time the draw is at on the 18th?