Jake Doyle-Hayes

[Since90+2]

Is this the first time a player has ever taken a club to court over an injury? I know McGinn had something with St Mirren but that was because he has a corner flag launched at him, so they're not really comparable.

[Centre Hawf]

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It was on the back of the whole Scott Allan saga and there was a bit of bad blood between the clubs and fans.

That came from Daz himself. If anyone can remember the short lived .net podcast he told the story on there and I'm sure elsewhere in the press as well so it's definitely in the public domain.

He was meant to go to St Johnstone so Rangers released him to go then signed for us instead. Rangers caught wind and tried to reverse his release but obviously couldn’t. Fantastic move by Daz.

[lucky]

JDH taking a case to court and winning are two separate things. Lodging the case means nothing other than pressure on Hibs or Hibs insurance company to settle.
JDH has nothing to lose as the PFA will have a deal with Thompsons.
A sheriff will decide if LJ and or Hibs have been negligent but I would not give much thought to the emotive language used by Thompsons in their press release. At this stage, it's just an attempt to get a settlement

[JimBHibees]

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What’s that assumption based on?
Reputable ones generally won’t without good cause, I’m told.

That they won’t all be reputable

[aberhibsfc]

I thought clubs insured players regards injuries. Something doesn't seem right here, in addition to the gift that keeps on taking, Lee Johnson.

[blackpoolhibs]

JDH managed to get himself fit enough to play against Villa, a team levels above us, surely he put himself in serious danger by playing against a team much better than us with a dodgy leg?

[superbam]

Have heard first hand how this was handled at the time, which put shame on us. Thankfully i think all the folks culpable are long gone now. Still we should be accountable

[cabbageandribs1875]

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Starts tonight for Sligo

and gave away the penalty which st pats scored from

[wee hay]

In fairness to Jake Doyle Hayes there will be bonuses he’s missed on due to the injury so it completely depends on his contract and how much these bonuses were like appearances, goals, win bonus whilst playing there are so many factors contractually that could impact the amount he’s due and plus he was on a long term deal. I genuinely think he’s gonna win this case or settle for an amount that Jake Doyle Hayes is happy with. He was the playing prior to the injury & clearly it effected the factors above.

[Baader]

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In fairness to Jake Doyle Hayes there will be bonuses he’s missed on due to the injury so it completely depends on his contract and how much these bonuses were like appearances, goals, win bonus whilst playing there are so many factors contractually that could impact the amount he’s due and plus he was on a long term deal. I genuinely think he’s gonna win this case or settle for an amount that Jake Doyle Hayes is happy with. He was the playing prior to the injury & clearly it effected the factors above.

Dont think we'd have to concern ourselves with a goals bonus too much...! Unless his mates had a trip planned.

In all seriousness though, it's too early to predict any potential court verdict if it does even get that far. No case has yet been presented by either side. His legal team will still have a lot to prove.

[Phil MaGlass]

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Is this the first time a player has ever taken a club to court over an injury? I know McGinn had something with St Mirren but that was because he has a corner flag launched at him, so they're not really comparable.

Durrant and Cooper, almost comparable.

[eastmainsmsh]

Muscat got sued by Charlton player

[NAE NOOKIE]

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JDH taking a case to court and winning are two separate things. Lodging the case means nothing other than pressure on Hibs or Hibs insurance company to settle.
JDH has nothing to lose as the PFA will have a deal with Thompsons.
A sheriff will decide if LJ and or Hibs have been negligent but I would not give much thought to the emotive language used by Thompsons in their press release. At this stage, it's just an attempt to get a settlement

They are talking about loss of earnings. As Hibs paid him as per his contract that can only be possible appearance bonuses if ( if ) he was picked for the first team.
Then you have the 'what if' he had been picked up by a 'bigger club' with more money. That's pure conjecture surely, especially when you consider the only offer Hibs ever got from him was from Forest Green Rovers, a club who probably weren't paying any more than us at the time. What club may, or may not, have come in for him if he hadn't been injured is utter guesswork, his performances for us when he did play were unlikely to get the attention of Salford City or Doncaster Rovers, never mind Celtic or Man United.

Hibs lawyer could do worse than produce threads from here and the bounce from the games he did play. I'm betting there weren't many comments comparing him to Messi or Ronaldo.

As for LJ's 'incompetence' and 'incoherence' : Like it or not he had managed several clubs at a decent level before joining us, and you can hardly point to the fact most of them sacked him as proof of his inability to do the job, managers who haven't been sacked at least once are as rare as hens teeth, including many with a far better pedigree than LJ.
IMO JDH would need other Hibs players or coaches to testify that LJ's way of working differed so markedly from other coaches / managers they had worked with that it is reasonable to say his methods put the players at a significantly higher risk of injury than most, if not all, of the coaches and managers they had worked with before and after LJ.

This isn't about unrealised talent / ability. This is about being physically able to play professional football and JDH currently plays in a full time professional league where in order to get insurance you no doubt have to prove that you are physically up to the stresses and strains that full time football puts on your body.
The fact is he can still play full time professional football and get insurance to do it........... to lay the fact it isn't in La Liga or the EPL at Hibs or LJ's door and asking us to pay for that sounds like utter bollox to me.

[Dmas]

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Have heard first hand how this was handled at the time, which put shame on us. Thankfully i think all the folks culpable are long gone now. Still we should be accountable

Hate this rubbish, why not just say how it was handled then? Big bad hibs at it again, the guy was under contract and would have been paid in accordance with that contract, you can’t expect performance related bonuses if you aren’t contributing due to injury or suspension, players get injured in training all the time just cause it so happened to be a challenge with the manager doesn’t mean a thing.

69 games he managed in 4 seasons, 40 of those where in his first year we should be suing him

[Wilson]

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and gave away the penalty which st pats scored from

His team mates should sue him for loss of a potential win bonus.