Jake Doyle-Hayes

[BILLYHIBS]

Shudda built in a NDA with his pay off

Who knew ?

[Blaster]

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Tbf nobody knows the details. It may have nothing to do with LJ. But you don’t take your employer to court for no reason.

Hopefully he loses and has to pay all the costs

[SaulGoodman]

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Still displayed on the big screen at ER when the No 8 player is displayed, he appeared as one of the subs coming on at the Rangers game, pretty amateurish from Hibs.

Didn’t even touch the ball when he came on as well. Usual.

[Hibbyradge]

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Would be very unusual of employees to testify against their employer

I think he was referring to his pals in the stands. Remember he scored a couple of beauties against Ross County when his mates were watching?

[evy]

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If his pals turn up for the hearing he might have a chance of winning

[Hibernian Verse]

No one has a clue what's going through the court.

If he's suing, the club might well be in the wrong and Thompsons clearly think he has a case.

How good a footballer he is/was is irrelevant.

[I'm_cabbaged]

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Would be very unusual of employees to testify against their employer

Tongue in cheek 😀
When he scored a cracking brace against RC, a squad of his pals had come over from Ireland

[Thatdayinmay16]

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Tend to agree unless a big part of it is some negligence in his injury treatment by the club

Why would we neglect the guy during injury would be my question.

We've had countless guys in sides over the years with long term injuries/health scares who we've looked after with nothing but the best care available to them.

If its down to what happened to him with LJ then so be it, managers take part in training all the time, I doubt LJ went into the challenge in his head thinking "yes lets injure one of my players".

[Pretty Boy]

I suppose it's entirely possible Hibs just weren't a very good employer for a while. The Bojang stuff didn't read well even if some of it did seem to be misunderstanding rather than malice. Some kind of player care or liaison there might have helped....

Then we had people behind the scenes leaving under a bit of a cloud, some of whom had been stalwarts at the club and would be loathe to speak ill of it but came pretty close to.

Of course it's easy to argue the player who didn't contribute much on the park is wrong and that may well be the case but with little to go on it's just as possible the opposite is true.

Thankfully things seems a lot better now and it's really a legacy issue which doesn't reflect the current situation.

[J-C]

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Did you expect him not to get paid? He's the good guy here.

Where did I say he shouldn't get paid, he was injured and we paid him well while being injured, most players move on with their careers when things don't work out. We don't know what his gripe is but is this all really necessary?

[Brightside]

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Where did I say he shouldn't get paid, he was injured and we paid him well while being injured, most players move on with their careers when things don't work out. We don't know what his gripe is but is this all really necessary?

It’s clearly necessary otherwise why would he go with a court case. Could end up with a pretty hefty bill at the end of it.

[J-C]

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It’s clearly necessary otherwise why would he go with a court case. Could end up with a pretty hefty bill at the end of it.

As someone says above, no one knows what is going through the courts, we are unsure if it's personal of professional issues.

[BlackSheep]

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Yet picked up a decent wage while injured

Ive heard he is suing due to unpaid wages while injured.

[Brightside]

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Ive heard he is suing due to unpaid wages while injured.

Well that would be rather amusing. Must be bonus related, unless they put him on basic sick pay.

[NAE NOOKIE]

No idea what the case is about, so it's all supposition at this point ..... but:

If this is a case based on an injury in training that wasn't a Thomson v McGinn situation, but simply injury in a normal challenge ( even if it was from the manager ) that happens in training all the time at every club. If JDH or any player for that matter was to win such a case clubs could be looking at a Bosman type situation where one player changes the whole fabric of the game, in this case how players train.
IMO he would have to prove there was malice in the challenge and have other players who were present at the time to back him up in court. Once again that's something that does happen in training when players have issues with each other.

If it's claiming the club were negligent in his welfare it's hard to say what that would be based on. I find it hard to believe he wouldn't have had exactly the same consideration vis a vis physiotherapy and medical treatment as any other player. In the end players are assets you can make money from, especially when he cost nothing in the first place, so why on earth would Hibs not do everything they could to ensure he was taken care of.

If it's just because he was excluded from first team training when he considered himself fit, that's another thing that happens at every club. If he was to win such a case citing mental stress or unfair treatment by the club, then as in the first scenario clubs would have to prepare themselves for an avalanche of lawsuits from disaffected players.

This will be interesting ....... though hopefully not costly for Hibs

[CropleyWasGod]

As with many of these cases, it will probably be settled out of court.

The fact that it has been called for hearing suggests to me that any negotiations between JDH and the club haven't brought about a satisfactory outcome. Bringing it to Court is probably a bargaining move, and will concentrate the minds of both sides. Neither will want it to go that far.

[SunshineOnLeith]

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Ive heard he is suing due to unpaid wages while injured.

It's a personal injury matter so won't be that.

[tamig]

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Yet picked up a decent wage while injured

What a silly comment. Since when did injured players not get their contracted wage?

[Rumble de Thump]

The Lee Johnson training ground tackle was described as a 50-50 challenge. The problem was a piece of floating bone in Jake's ankle from a previous injury. It will be interesting to find out what this case is all about. I wish Jake well. I really enjoyed the good game he had for us.

[Viva_Palmeiras]

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I suppose it's entirely possible Hibs just weren't a very good employer for a while. The Bojang stuff didn't read well even if some of it did seem to be misunderstanding rather than malice. Some kind of player care or liaison there might have helped....

Then we had people behind the scenes leaving under a bit of a cloud, some of whom had been stalwarts at the club and would be loathe to speak ill of it but came pretty close to.

Of course it's easy to argue the player who didn't contribute much on the park is wrong and that may well be the case but with little to go on it's just as possible the opposite is true.

Thankfully things seems a lot better now and it's really a legacy issue which doesn't reflect the current situation.

I thought Tracey Smith (ex Fans Rep) took up that role?
Possibly after that event but thought it was before or around that time.
We should have this in place and we have a big Hibernian family should be big enough to help integrate in…

[Centre Hawf]

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I thought Tracey Smith (ex Fans Rep) took up that role?
Possibly after that event but thought it was before or around that time.
We should have this in place and we have a big Hibernian family should be big enough to help integrate in…

She was but left a few years ago now.

[J-C]

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What a silly comment. Since when did injured players not get their contracted wage?

Amazing how you've managed to assume something that was never mentioned, the point being was that he was well paid even when injured, so what is his gripe with the club?

[tonyrougier123]

I don’t know Jake Doyle Hayes personally, but watching him play for hibs and his body language on the park it felt clear to me he wasn’t going to make the grade. A stroppy player with very little consistency , and he certainly wasn’t at a level to be pulling on a hibs shirt, I also think he knew this hence why he spent best part part of two seasons “injured” miraculously being available for Villa and Europe, can anybody remember how bad he was against inter club de’escaldes? Awful stuff diving in to tackles aggressively if as almost trying to get sent off. Shocking display.

Whilst the ins and outs of his injury will never be fully disclosed nothing will convince me this situation isn’t just sour grapes by a bang average footballer who simply failed to make an impact but gladly earned a wage for doing very little, a subsequent impact being having to drop to a level such as league of ireland. I’d also add that a new club signed him assuming with a medical pass certificate so that kind of leaves me baffled what indeed he could sue the club for.

If it’s for unpaid wages, maybe the medical team was passing him fit for selection and he was claiming he was still injured. Who knows.

The overall squad morale has significantly improved, maybe as a result of letting unhappy players leave, surely not a coincidence?

Again this is where I’d praise Malky Mackay, identifying and fixing the pool of players we had to get us performing as a team a club and as an employer.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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The Lee Johnson training ground tackle was described as a 50-50 challenge. The problem was a piece of floating bone in Jake's ankle from a previous injury. It will be interesting to find out what this case is all about. I wish Jake well. I really enjoyed the good game he had for us.

That's possibly the finest example of 'damning with faint praise' I've ever seen

[easty]

Never rated him as a player at Hibs, and one of the low-points of the last few years (for me) was when Maloney was in charge and we got pumped away at Dundee. That night they had fat Charlie Adam shouting in JDH's face and he's too scared to even look at him, never mind battle him in midfield. It was pathetic.

That aside, nobody really knows what this court case is in relation to. Yeah, he picked up a fair wage while injured at Hibs, but he's absolutely entitled to do that, we offered him the deal. If Hibs are in the wrong then he's got every right to pursue whatever he wants through the courts.

I'd imagine it'll get settled before it makes it to trial though.

[Northernhibee]

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That's possibly the finest example of 'damning with faint praise' I've ever seen

He really was a believable player for us.

[Pretty Boy]

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I thought Tracey Smith (ex Fans Rep) took up that role?
Possibly after that event but thought it was before or around that time.
We should have this in place and we have a big Hibernian family should be big enough to help integrate in…

She was in the role and was very much valued by managers, players and their families. I don't think she was ever adequately replaced which was my point.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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He really was a believable player for us.

Stoppable on his day. Done the thinkable.

[Lago]

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I think he was referring to his pals in the stands. Remember he scored a couple of beauties against Ross County when his mates were watching?

Think those two beauties were the highlight of his Hibs career.

[scm70nyd1973]

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Hopefully he loses and has to pay all the costs

Depending on the type of case it’s not like that any more I’m afraid ☹️