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[HibbyAndy]

If we get beat tomorrow and Dundee utd beat St.Mirren it's both of us on 53 points ? They then have Aberdeen and Rangers whilst we have St.mirren and Rangers no danger is 3rd place done and dusted

[Chorley Hibee]

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If we get beat tomorrow and Dundee utd beat St.Mirren it's both of us on 53 points ? They then have Aberdeen and Rangers whilst we have St.mirren and Rangers no danger is 3rd place done and dusted

Dundee Utd are 6 points behind us (7 if you include our far superior goal difference).

[HibbyAndy]

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Dundee Utd are 6 points behind us (7 if you include our far superior goal difference).

Aw thank **** Am blaming bet365 they have it wrong !!

[overdrive]

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I don't think United & Nice could have been drawn together in the EL due to Ratcliffe owning Nice and only having 27.8% or something at united.

Could be wrong though.

Yeah maybe me throwing Man City/Girona was a red herring - they are more of a true multi-club model.

Man City and Nice are more like our situation and it seems to be management influence that is key rather than the ownership of shares with us and I think you'd struggle to say BKFC don't have management influence with them having two board members. That said, IIRC the new articles of association seems to guarantee them places on the board so I'm not sure how we get round that. The SFA made it a condition of allowing the BKFC deal that we wouldn't have an issue if we qualified for European competition, so they must have a plan for this situation.

[Paulie Walnuts]

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Hibs fans crack me up - potential for 4 away games till Xmas!

Would rather anywhere in Europe away than some league cup trip to some lower league team like this season.

That’s a massive leap from what I said to be fair.

Looking at who’s around the teams listed in their league tables I’d be hoping some of them could be replaced by others is all I’m saying really.

For example, I’d rather go to Florence and play Fiorentina or Turin to play Juve than go to Rome and play Nazio. I’d rather go to Mallorca or Seville than Madrid, Monaco, Nice or Lille than Lyon,Dortmund than Leipzig etc.

Nobody is suggesting they’d rather be in the league cup. But there’s very few teams or locations in there that I’d look at and go ‘man I wish I could watch Hibs play that team/in that location one day.’

[Hibernian Verse]

If we start off in the Europa playoff and are drawn at home first is the AC/DC concert likely to mean we have to move dates?

Might sound a stupid question but might be requested by the police due to staff shortages and public transport.

[CB Hibs 68]

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If we start off in the Europa playoff and are drawn at home first is the AC/DC concert likely to mean we have to move dates?

Might sound a stupid question but might be requested by the police due to staff shortages and public transport.

Nah stupid question.

[bingo70]

I’m sure this has been answered a lot already but now things are a bit clearer, can someone tell me what competition and stage we go in at if Aberdeen win the cup.

I know if Celtic win the cup we go into the Europa league play off then drop into the conference if we lose but not sure about what happens if Aberdeen win the cup.

[Trinity Hibee]

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I’m sure this has been answered a lot already but now things are a bit clearer, can someone tell me what competition and stage we go in at if Aberdeen win the cup.

I know if Celtic win the cup we go into the Europa league play off then drop into the conference if we lose but not sure about what happens if Aberdeen win the cup.

We go into the 2nd qualifying round of conference I think. So that would be 3 ties to get into conf groups I think

[JohnM1875]

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I’m sure this has been answered a lot already but now things are a bit clearer, can someone tell me what competition and stage we go in at if Aberdeen win the cup.

I know if Celtic win the cup we go into the Europa league play off then drop into the conference if we lose but not sure about what happens if Aberdeen win the cup.

“Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa.

Third place becomes considerably more lucrative if Celtic win the Scottish Cup because that would mean the team in third taking the cup’s European spot in the Europa play-off. This is what guarantees league-stage football and rewards upwards of £5m because of the drop into the Conference League in the event of defeat.”

[Mr Grieves]

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I’m sure this has been answered a lot already but now things are a bit clearer, can someone tell me what competition and stage we go in at if Aberdeen win the cup.

I know if Celtic win the cup we go into the Europa league play off then drop into the conference if we lose but not sure about what happens if Aberdeen win the cup.

We would go into the Europe league 2nd qualifying round, hen there's a 3rd qualifying round, and then the play off

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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Really? Some brilliant trips in there. A few big teams and lots of more obscure destinations too. The more obscure the better. This has me VERY excited.

Very much this. 👏

[bingo70]

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“Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa.

Third place becomes considerably more lucrative if Celtic win the Scottish Cup because that would mean the team in third taking the cup’s European spot in the Europa play-off. This is what guarantees league-stage football and rewards upwards of £5m because of the drop into the Conference League in the event of defeat.”

Great, so we’ve definitely qualified for the Europa league and will at least have a stab at dropping down to the conference league play off if we lose in the Europa? Guaranteed at least two ties in Europe, more obviously if Celtic win the cup.

[bringbackbenny]

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Great, so we’ve definitely qualified for the Europa league and will at least have a stab at dropping down to the conference league play off if we lose in the Europa? Guaranteed at least two ties in Europe, more obviously if Celtic win the cup.

Almost, if Aberdeen win the cup and we then lose Europa R2 would drop to Conference R3 then the play off as final round pre the Group. I think, all too confusing!

[Aldo]

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Almost, if lose Europa R2 then drop to Conference R3 then the play off as final round pre the Group. I think, all too confusing!

I thought if we failed to win the Europa League play off we dropped right into the group stages of Conference League with guaranteed Europe until Christmas.

I maybe wrong though!

[bringbackbenny]

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I thought if we failed to win the Europa League play off we dropped right into the group stages of Conference League with guaranteed Europe until Christmas.

I maybe wrong though!

Sorry I had meanr if Aberdeen win the cup. Will edit my reply

[Aldo]

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Sorry I had meanr if Aberdeen win the cup. Will edit my reply

[Hibbyradge]

So we're guaranteed at least 2 qualifying ties, 1 in the Europa and 1 in the Conference, assuming we lose both?

[Nakedmanoncrack]

"Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa."

So worst case scenario, Aberdeen win the cup -

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 2nd qualifying round of Europa League (24 July & 31 July)

Lose that & enter Conference League 3rd Qualifying round.

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 3rd qualifying round of Conference League (7 Aug & 14 Aug)

So guaranteed minimum 4 games - is my understanding.

[JohnM1875]

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So we're guaranteed at least 2 qualifying ties, 1 in the Europa and 1 in the Conference, assuming we lose both?

Aye, spot on. Worst case scenario.

[Nakedmanoncrack]

I think this should be right, correct me if wrong!

If Aberdeen win the cup -

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 2nd qualifying round of Europa League (24 July & 31 July)

(Win & enter Europa League 3rd Qualifying round)

(Lose & enter Conference League 3rd Qualifying round)

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 3rd qualifying round of either Europa or Conference League (7 Aug & 14 Aug)

(If in Europa & win enter Europa play off round, if in Europa & lose (or Conference & win) enter Conference play off round (21 Aug & 28 Aug).

If Celtic win the cup or we are successful in 3rd round of Europa above -

2 leg tie in Play Off Round of Europa (21 Aug & 28 Aug)

Win - enter Europa group stage.
Lose - enter Conference group stage.

Alternatively, if successful in 3rd round of Conference above -

2 leg tie in Play Off Round of Conference (21 Aug & 28 Aug)

Win - enter Conference group stage.

[joe breezy]

Aberdeen winning the cup looks highly unlikely but anything can happen


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[danhibees1875]

So if Aberdeen win the cup, we'd have to negotiate 3 rounds to get a group stage. But, we're allowed to lose 1 of those rounds at some point and end up in the conference as opposed to European.

[GreenCastle]

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"Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa."

So worst case scenario, Aberdeen win the cup -

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 2nd qualifying round of Europa League (24 July & 31 July)

Lose that & enter Conference League 3rd Qualifying round.

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 3rd qualifying round of Conference League (7 Aug & 14 Aug)

So guaranteed minimum 4 games - is my understanding.

Yup - that’s it Aberdeen win cup. 2 home euro ties - 2 away euro ties.

Celtic win the cup then it’s either 10 games (5 home / 5 away - that’s if we win a difficult Europa league play off tie but rewards are you enter Europa league) or 8 games (4 home and 4 away - conference only play 3 home and 3 away plus Europa league playoffs which we would have lost ) minimum.

Don’t forget it’s the new big table format so 24 out of 36 teams qualify.

You need minimum 2 wins and a draw plus good goal difference to finish in top 24.

Win 3 games ( for example 2 home and 1 away) and you will get x2 more matches (home and away minimum).

We REALLY need Celtic to win the cup final.

[Stairway 2 7]

Aberdeen 12/1 on betfair I think only red cards would stop celtic getting the treble

[JeMeSouviens]

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So if Aberdeen win the cup, we'd have to negotiate 3 rounds to get a group stage. But, we're allowed to lose 1 of those rounds at some point and end up in the conference as opposed to European.

Yes, we can either go:

WWW - Europa League group

Or any of WWL, WLW, LWW to get to Conf League group

LL, LWL, or WLL we're oot.

All academic when the Dons lose the cup final.

[Franck Le God]

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Yes, we can either go:

WWW - Europa League group

Or any of WWL, WLW, LWW to get to Conf League group

LL, LWL, or WLL we're oot.

All academic when the Dons lose the cup final.

Clearest I’ve seen it explained, lovely stuff.


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[Coach Jon]

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Aberdeen 12/1 on betfair I think only red cards would stop celtic getting the treble

The club should stick 500K on Aberdeen to win 6M as a saver then.

[Keith_M]

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"Entry into the second qualifying round of the Europa League is the prize on offer for finishing third in the Premiership this season. The club in question would be required to negotiate that tie, plus the third qualifying round and play-off round to reach the league phase. As mentioned above, the earnings for doing so are substantial. There are parachutes into the Conference League for defeat in Q2, Q3 and play-off of the Europa."

So worst case scenario, Aberdeen win the cup -

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 2nd qualifying round of Europa League (24 July & 31 July)

Lose that & enter Conference League 3rd Qualifying round.

▪︎ 2 leg tie in 3rd qualifying round of Conference League (7 Aug & 14 Aug)

So guaranteed minimum 4 games - is my understanding.

Even if the incredibly unlikely happens and Aberdeen win the Cup, I'll be delighted with this for next season.


I'm not even gonna think about any other possible scenarios until after the Cup Final.

[bingo70]

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Even if the incredibly unlikely happens and Aberdeen win the Cup, I'll be delighted with this for next season.


I'm not even gonna think about any other possible scenarios until after the Cup Final.

I’m the same, that’s why I’m pretty relaxed about Aberdeen winning the cup.

From a financial perspective the group stages would be amazing but probably my best ever Hibs away day came at Villa park so it’s still possible to get a good draw in the play offs.