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    Quote Originally Posted by greenpaper55 View Post
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    Should never bring player back, how we got money for him is beyond me.
    Pretty OTT take there

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    Bring him home and he’ll win the Ballon d’Or.

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    Should never bring player back, how we got money for him is beyond me.
    We’d still be waiting on the Scottish Cup if we never brought Stokes back. That’s a lazy take.

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    Can see the pros and cons for Porteous to return to Hibs so its a very good debate, the boy clearly had talent and potential but would need to work on the rashness to his game which going on comment's he still has traits of.

    Could working under SDG be any different? Who would have thought predicted Rocky's rise and his performances he has put it, it's clear SDG has asked him to do different things and keep it simple with defend first mentally. Could SDG get this out of Ryan?

    Would be an interesting signing if this happens.
    If it happens, that is my real hope.

    I don’t want him back. I don’t want the version that left us and I don’t think he’s improved. He clearly still has a habit of doing the utter ridiculous and costing his team going by Watford fans thoughts on him and he’s been poor for a considerable period now culminating in him being a bench warmer in a relegation battle.

    I trust David Gray if he does sign him and I hope he can sort him out. It’ll be a hard ask though as I’m not convinced he wants sorted out. He appears to revel in playing the way he does, even though it can so often be so detrimental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HendoDelivered View Post
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    We’d still be waiting on the Scottish Cup if we never brought Stokes back. That’s a lazy take.
    Or perhaps the 1991 League Cup given how pivotal he was.

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    Has Porteous had loads of red cards since he left? I remember him desperately flinging himself into a Germany player to stop us going 3 -0 down, but it appears I’ve missed him breaking legs and swinging punches?

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    Has Porteous had loads of red cards since he left? I remember him desperately flinging himself into a Germany player to stop us going 3 -0 down, but it appears I’ve missed him breaking legs and swinging punches?
    ‘Desperately flinging himself into a Germany player’ is being incredibly generous for what was one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    ‘Desperately flinging himself into a Germany player’ is being incredibly generous for what was one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see.
    It was a bad tackle, but it was treated like he was trying to end Gundogans career. He jumped into a tackle when the ball was pinging about the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    ‘Desperately flinging himself into a Germany player’ is being incredibly generous for what was one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see.
    that is one of the worst overstatements that you're ever likely to read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_ View Post
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    that is one of the worst overstatements that you're ever likely to read.
    Is it?

    If it’s such an overstatement I presume you’ll be able to provide a string of examples of significantly worse tackles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    Has Porteous had loads of red cards since he left? I remember him desperately flinging himself into a Germany player to stop us going 3 -0 down, but it appears I’ve missed him breaking legs and swinging punches?

    No reds at club level since he left Hibs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    It was a bad tackle, but it was treated like he was trying to end Gundogans career. He jumped into a tackle when the ball was pinging about the box.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    ‘Desperately flinging himself into a Germany player’ is being incredibly generous for what was one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see.
    Hahahahaha. Come on now

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    The three games, post-split, have been littered with giving away soft goals, two of which resulted in defeats.

    Rocky's poor defensive header against Aberdeen and the failure to follow Nisbet out cost us against Aberdeen.

    Myko against Dundee Utd.

    Rocky & O'Hora were poor at Celtic's first two goals, especially the first, where we were bullied by Idah. The third was a fumble by Smith and O'Hora moving aimlessly, leaving the right side exposed. SDG said himself we need to look at the defending. Porty would give us strength, he is at an age where he can improve and at this time, he would certainly strengthen the right side of the three and there is the added advantage of his ability to pick a pass, especially with us geared up for fast breaks and factor in, the home-grown rule.

    A no-brainer for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray_ View Post
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    The three games, post-split, have been littered with giving away soft goals, two of which resulted in defeats.

    Rocky's poor defensive header against Aberdeen and the failure to follow Nisbet out cost us against Aberdeen.

    Myko against Dundee Utd.

    Rocky & O'Hora were poor at Celtic's first two goals, especially the first, where we were bullied by Idah. The third was a fumble by Smith and O'Hora moving aimlessly, leaving the right side exposed. SDG said himself we need to look at the defending. Porty would give us strength, he is at an age where he can improve and at this time, he would certainly strengthen the right side of the three and there is the added advantage of his ability to pick a pass, especially with us geared up for fast breaks and factor in, the home-grown rule.

    A no-brainer for me.
    I’m not having the Aberdeen goal as soft, it got thrown into the goal of the season competition by Sky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees View Post
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    Hahahahaha. Come on now
    As above - you’ll be able to provide a good few worse tackles as examples i would presume?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    As above - you’ll be able to provide a good few worse tackles as examples i would presume?
    Aye probably

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees View Post
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    Aye probably
    And yet it’s no coincidence you won’t give any.

    Two footed, studs up, high and with so much force that you could see Gundogans leg bend. When it comes to terrible tackles there’s pretty much not a box that he’s not managed to tick.

    The guy is an idiot that deliberately goes out to hurt people. If he hadn’t played for us before nobody would be pretending otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 500miles View Post
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    I’m not having the Aberdeen goal as soft, it got thrown into the goal of the season competition by Sky.
    It was great by Nisbet, his intelligence in taking up that position, and the execution was sublime.

    From a defensive perspective, it was very poor. The header was weak and into a vulnerable area, and we never picked up Nisbet's movement, which, again, defensively was poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    And yet it’s no coincidence you won’t give any.

    Two footed, studs up, high and with so much force that you could see Gundogans leg bend. When it comes to terrible tackles there’s pretty much not a box that he’s not managed to tick.
    Since you asked, just in Scotland:

    Ian Black on David Templeton (Hearts v Rangers, 2009)
    Neil Lennon on Jim McIntyre (Celtic v Dundee Utd, 2005)
    Graeme Shinnie on Callum McGregor (Aberdeen v Celtc, 2023)
    Steven Naismith on Scott Brown (Hearts v Celtc, 2018)

    That enough or do you want more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    And yet it’s no coincidence you won’t give any.

    Two footed, studs up, high and with so much force that you could see Gundogans leg bend. When it comes to terrible tackles there’s pretty much not a box that he’s not managed to tick.
    Keane on Haaland. Souness on Billy Stark and Souness on George Mcluskey. There are dozens if not hundreds of examples of tackles as bad or worse than the one Porteous did at the Euros. You have a dislike of him which is fair enough but don’t pretend that his tackle was the worst in football history
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    It was a poor tackle but alot of comments at the time seemed to be "he knew what he was doing". He spun around in the box at 2-0 down in the euro opener and lunged at the ball, missed and paid the price. To suggest in that split second he wanted to snap Gundogan is ridiculous. The ref didn't even call it at the time and there was no appeals from Germany.

    I'd take him back without a doubt. He started alot of our attacks with his decent passing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees View Post
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    Since you asked, just in Scotland:

    Ian Black on David Templeton (Hearts v Rangers, 2009)
    Neil Lennon on Jim McIntyre (Celtic v Dundee Utd, 2005)
    Graeme Shinnie on Callum McGregor (Aberdeen v Celtc, 2023)
    Steven Naismith on Scott Brown (Hearts v Celtc, 2018)

    That enough or do you want more?


    The Naismith stamp was nowhere near as bad. Cowardly, absolutely, but nothing like the Porteous one which was a leg breaker.

    No idea what Shinnie one you’re talking about but given he didn’t get any red card against Celtic in 2023, I’m willing to call bull**** on that.

    Following on from that, shouts of tackles from 2009, 2005 and Graham Souness tell you all you need to know if people have to go that far back for examples.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees View Post
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    Since you asked, just in Scotland:

    Ian Black on David Templeton (Hearts v Rangers, 2009)
    Neil Lennon on Jim McIntyre (Celtic v Dundee Utd, 2005)
    Graeme Shinnie on Callum McGregor (Aberdeen v Celtc, 2023)
    Steven Naismith on Scott Brown (Hearts v Celtc, 2018)

    That enough or do you want more?
    There was also Balde's tackle on Brown while he was at Hibs.

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    Is it?

    If it’s such an overstatement I presume you’ll be able to provide a string of examples of significantly worse tackles?
    Did Ryan Porteous hurt you in any way?

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    The Naismith stamp was nowhere near as bad. Cowardly, absolutely, but nothing like the Porteous one which was a leg breaker.

    No idea what Shinnie one you’re talking about but given he didn’t get any red card against Celtic in 2023, I’m willing to call bull**** on that.

    Following on from that, shouts of tackles from 2009, 2005 and Graham Souness tell you all you need to know if people have to go that far back for examples.
    Ah right, so it’s like that?

    You don’t agree that the Naismith one was as bad so you’re right
    You can’t remember the Shinnie one so, again, you’re right
    You asked for examples and you’ve been given some but because they’re passed your made up deadline, you’re still right

    Got ye

    You don’t need to reply by the way, you asked for examples, you’ve been given multiple, you hate Porteous, crack on

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    Someone broke Steven Fletcher's leg, sure it was a Celtic player?

    Killie player on Alex Harris that seemed to stunt his career.

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    It was great by Nisbet, his intelligence in taking up that position, and the execution was sublime.

    From a defensive perspective, it was very poor. The header was weak and into a vulnerable area, and we never picked up Nisbet's movement, which, again, defensively was poor.
    Every goal can be seen as very poor from a defensive error if you look hard enough.

    I once allowed a boy to score from about 40 yards out on the volley because I thought no chance he'd score and thought he'd turn the ball over and decided to cover the passes instead and let him hit it. Sailed top bin on this occasion and you could look at me standing off him as a defensive error. But I'd do it again as in the moment it was sound logic and you sometimes have to hold your hand up and say the boys scored a beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees View Post
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    Ah right, so it’s like that?

    You don’t agree that the Naismith one was as bad so you’re right
    You can’t remember the Shinnie one so, again, you’re right
    You asked for examples and you’ve been given some but because they’re passed your made up deadline, you’re still right

    Got ye

    You don’t need to reply by the way, you asked for examples, you’ve been given multiple, you hate Porteous, crack on
    The Naismith one was nothing like the Porteous one and you’re kidding yourself on if you think it was. And yes, I’m absolutely right about that.

    If you have to go back 20 years (or in another posters case, 40) then it’s absolutely fair to say it’s one of the worst tackles you’re likely to see. You’ll not see many that tick every box for being a shocker.

    If he hadn’t played for Hibs we wouldn’t be having such a ridiculous conversation. The guy gets a ludicrous amount of leeway on here every time he acts like a ****ing idiot. We even had people making excuses for him when he launched a glass at a women’s head ffs.
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    The Naismith stamp was nowhere near as bad. Cowardly, absolutely, but nothing like the Porteous one which was a leg breaker.

    No idea what Shinnie one you’re talking about but given he didn’t get any red card against Celtic in 2023, I’m willing to call bull**** on that.

    Following on from that, shouts of tackles from 2009, 2005 and Graham Souness tell you all you need to know if people have to go that far back for examples.
    The Millwall keeper on Mateta in the FA cup this season. Skull breaker.

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