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    Great info.

    Question if all planets align, would we be seeded or unseeded in Europa qualifier?
    Very much unseeded. The seedings are mostly based on a club's indivdual performance with a 20% baseline from the country rankings.

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2025.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonC1875 View Post
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    Getting one over the jambo roasters that are Union SG would be nice.

    Edit: Surprised Qarabag would be unseeded. They've had a few good runs in recent years. Zoubir is still there I think.
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    I don’t know why but that’s quite a disappointing list imo. Only a small handful of teams in there I’d be excited about going away to so the chances of drawing them for an away tie are slim.

    Hopefully some movement in other leagues. Mallorca qualifying would be nice, Hibs away in Magaluf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onceinawhile View Post
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    Nazio would be an awful trip. Not only are their fans right wing roasters, they're very, very stabby.

    I'd love a trip away to royal antwerp personally.
    I love Rome, but I wouldnt want to be in a away support there. Call me a big jessie if you want but its a bit too stabby for me.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/23/shameful-rome-mayor-dismayed-after-lazio-thugs-attack-real-sociedad-fans

  6. #125
    Based on those pots it would be possible to get

    Lazio
    Panathenaikos
    Poznan
    Bournemouth
    Brondby

    Some ties in there

  7. #126
    if you are wondering about where we finish and what it brings us - get yer head round this !

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024...ons-scheme.png


    for 25/26 Scotland is the 11th ranked nation - keys here
    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html


    So that means 3rd in league (Celtic win cup) =
    Europa League play off game, if we lose that entry to Conference league group stage

    3rd in league Dons win cup =
    Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round

    4th in league cup winners irrelevant =
    Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round

    5th in league cup winner Celtic =
    Entry to Conference league Q2 round


    I THINK!!!!
    Last edited by Not In The Know; 09-05-2025 at 01:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    I love Rome, but I wouldnt want to be in a away support there. Call me a big jessie if you want but its a bit too stabby for me.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...-sociedad-fans
    There are some places I just don't particularly fancy going to be an away fan in. Rome and Istanbul are an immediate two that spring to mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not In The Know View Post
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    if you are wondering about where we finish and what it brings us - get yer head round this !

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024...ons-scheme.png


    for 25/26 Scotland is the 11th ranked nation - keys here
    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html


    So that means 3rd in league (Celtic win cup) =
    Europa League play off game, if we lose that entry to Conference league group stage

    3rd in league Dons win cup =
    Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round

    4th in league cup winners irrelevant =
    Entry to Conference league Q3 round

    5th in league cup winner Celtic =
    Entry to Conference league Q2 round


    I THINK!!!!
    If we finish 4th we get the same as 3rd and Dons win cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Springbank View Post
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    Based on those pots it would be possible to get

    Lazio
    Panathenaikos
    Poznan
    Bournemouth
    Brondby

    Some ties in there
    Some possible doings as well. La2io and Bournemouth would give me the fear to be honest. If we make the group stages of either competition the downside will be the strain playing these games will put on our squad, there's no doubt St Mirren, Killie and Hearts all suffered as a result. I've already seen folk talking about some of our players looking 'leggy' in the last few games and that's on the back of a season with no European football and no long run in either cup.

    It is what it is though and doings and knackered players aside, it would be great to see this club finally make a European group stage.

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    Drawing an Israeli club might be interesting. 👀

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts View Post
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    I don’t know why but that’s quite a disappointing list imo. Only a small handful of teams in there I’d be excited about going away to so the chances of drawing them for an away tie are slim.

    Hopefully some movement in other leagues. Mallorca qualifying would be nice, Hibs away in Magaluf
    Really? Some brilliant trips in there. A few big teams and lots of more obscure destinations too. The more obscure the better. This has me VERY excited.

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    I don’t know why but that’s quite a disappointing list imo. Only a small handful of teams in there I’d be excited about going away to so the chances of drawing them for an away tie are slim.

    Hopefully some movement in other leagues. Mallorca qualifying would be nice, Hibs away in Magaluf
    Hibs fans crack me up - potential for 4 away games till Xmas!

    Would rather anywhere in Europe away than some league cup trip to some lower league team like this season.

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    Hibs fans crack me up - potential for 4 away games till Xmas!

    Would rather anywhere in Europe away than some league cup trip to some lower league team like this season.
    Exactly. Having travelled a fair bit with Scotland over the last 25 years, sometimes the least obvious trips are the best. All better than Dumbarton in the league cup!!

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    If we finish 4th we get the same as 3rd and Dons win cup.
    correct!

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    I don’t know why but that’s quite a disappointing list imo. Only a small handful of teams in there I’d be excited about going away to so the chances of drawing them for an away tie are slim.

    Hopefully some movement in other leagues. Mallorca qualifying would be nice, Hibs away in Magaluf

    Eh?

    Lazio, Leipzig, Alkmaar, Lyon, Istanbul Basaksheir, Bournemouth, Antwerp, Poznan, Vittoria S.C, Besiktas, Malmo, Panathanikos, Brondby, Dinamo Minsk & Rayo Vallecano are not disappointing potential ties.

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    if you are wondering about where we finish and what it brings us - get yer head round this !

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024...ons-scheme.png


    for 25/26 Scotland is the 11th ranked nation - keys here
    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html


    So that means 3rd in league (Celtic win cup) =
    Europa League play off game, if we lose that entry to Conference league group stage

    3rd in league Dons win cup =
    Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round

    4th in league cup winners irrelevant =
    Entry to Conference league Q3 round

    5th in league cup winner Celtic =
    Entry to Conference league Q2 round


    I THINK!!!!
    Not exact but nearly.

    4th in league, cup winner isn't irrelevant.

    If we are 4th and the Dons are 3rd, the ranking is Celtc - Huns - Dons - Us - Utd, whoever wins the cup.
    If we are 4th, the Dons win the cup and United are 3rd (unlikely), then the ranking is Celtc - Huns - Dons - Utd - Us
    If we are 4th, Celtc win the cup and United are 3rd, it's Celtc - Huns - Utd - Us - Dons
    If we are 5th the cup winner is irrelevant.

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    If we finish 4th we get the same as 3rd and Dons win cup.
    correct!

    Yeah I’ve removed Dundee Utd from the equation to save head space!
    Last edited by Not In The Know; 09-05-2025 at 01:20 PM.

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    if you are wondering about where we finish and what it brings us - get yer head round this !

    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024...ons-scheme.png


    for 25/26 Scotland is the 11th ranked nation - keys here
    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html


    So that means 3rd in league (Celtic win cup) =
    Europa League play off game, if we lose that entry to Conference league group stage

    3rd in league Dons win cup =
    Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round

    4th in league cup winners irrelevant =
    Europa LeagueEL-Q2 round, if we lose that entry to Conference league Q3 round

    5th in league cup winner Celtic =
    Entry to Conference league Q2 round


    I THINK!!!!
    If we are in the Conference League qualifying round 3, or even worse qualifying round 2, our chances of reaching the League stages are very slim. Likely to come across a biggie in the play-off round.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibsbollah View Post
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    I love Rome, but I wouldnt want to be in a away support there. Call me a big jessie if you want but its a bit too stabby for me.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/jan/23/shameful-rome-mayor-dismayed-after-lazio-thugs-attack-real-sociedad-fans
    I’ve been at a game in the Olympic stadium too
    Inside and outside the ground there’s loads of violence

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    Eh?

    Lazio, Leipzig, Alkmaar, Lyon, Istanbul Basaksheir, Bournemouth, Antwerp, Poznan, Vittoria S.C, Besiktas, Malmo, Panathanikos, Brondby, Dinamo Minsk & Rayo Vallecano are not disappointing potential ties.
    Bournemouth is a bit meh and Minsk aren't allowed to play at home (sanctions on Belarus). Everything else.

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    Bournemouth is a bit meh and Minsk aren't allowed to play at home (sanctions on Belarus). Everything else.
    Where do Minsk play European games now? Must be better than Belarus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatdayinmay16 View Post
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    Where do Minsk play European games now? Must be better than Belarus
    The international team have been playing in Hungary but we're still waiting to hear where the Scotland game in September will be played. There's also been no fans at their games, although the SFA are trying to get some Scotland fans to the game, wherever it's played. Hearts played Dynamo Minsk in Azerbaijan. Not many countries are pally with Belarus at the moment so options are limited.

    I'd love to get back to Minsk.....one of my favourite Scotland away trips ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS View Post
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    Exactly. Having travelled a fair bit with Scotland over the last 25 years, sometimes the least obvious trips are the best. All better than Dumbarton in the league cup!!
    Agreed....anywhere with 'stan' in the name is the dream trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Bournemouth is a bit meh and Minsk aren't allowed to play at home (sanctions on Belarus). Everything else.
    If Bournemouth and Hibs both qualify, I'm assuming there will be changes that need to be made re BKFC?

    Judging by what happened with Man City/Girona and Man City/Nice this year, it looks like Foley and Caswell would need to resign from our board, we couldn't transfer players between the two clubs and we couldn't share data through player databases, etc.

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    Drawing an Israeli club might be interesting. 👀
    If away, will be played in a neutral (Poland or Hungary, at a guess), near empty stadium.

    One to avoid.

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    The international team have been playing in Hungary but we're still waiting to hear where the Scotland game in September will be played. There's also been no fans at their games, although the SFA are trying to get some Scotland fans to the game, wherever it's played. Hearts played Dynamo Minsk in Azerbaijan. Not many countries are pally with Belarus at the moment so options are limited.

    I'd love to get back to Minsk.....one of my favourite Scotland away trips ever.
    I'd be more than happy if we played Minsk in Hungary, that's a great trip. Heard Hungary is a beautiful country and certainly one I'd be happy to tick off the list.

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    If Bournemouth and Hibs both qualify, I'm assuming there will be changes that need to be made re BKFC?

    Judging by what happened with Man City/Girona and Man City/Nice this year, it looks like Foley and Caswell would need to resign from our board, we couldn't transfer players between the two clubs and we couldn't share data through player databases, etc.
    Are we not ok because it's a less than 30% stake?

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    Are we not ok because it's a less than 30% stake?
    I don't think United & Nice could have been drawn together in the EL due to Ratcliffe owning Nice and only having 27.8% or something at united.

    Could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    If Bournemouth and Hibs both qualify, I'm assuming there will be changes that need to be made re BKFC?

    Judging by what happened with Man City/Girona and Man City/Nice this year, it looks like Foley and Caswell would need to resign from our board, we couldn't transfer players between the two clubs and we couldn't share data through player databases, etc.
    Sure they would work it out, RB Leipzig and Salzburg have played each other in Europe a few times

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Bournemouth is a bit meh and Minsk aren't allowed to play at home (sanctions on Belarus). Everything else.
    Bournemouth would be a nightmare to get tickets but if it was one of the earlier games it could be a good trip. Jolly boys outings on the bus, drinking on the pier and a wee win on the 2p puggys

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