Hamas attack on Israel

[DaveF]

Israel continues to block aid into Gaza, effectively starving civilians to death.

Why is there no international outcry?

What is Starmer doing about this?

[Keith_M]

The lack of any noticeable outrage over, or condemnation of, Israel's actions from our political 'leaders' is now depressing the hell out of me.

It's bad enough the nutjob far right leaders in the US are now actively banning protests against these atrocities, but the supposedly more open-minded, enlightened European leaders are nowhere to be seen.

Come on Starmer, et-al, bloody say something and stop kowtowing to the pro-Israel lobby!!!

[JimBHibees]

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The lack of any noticeable outrage over, or condemnation of, Israel's actions from our political 'leaders' is now depressing the hell out of me.

It's bad enough the nutjob far right leaders in the US are now actively banning protests against these atrocities, but the supposedly more open-minded, enlightened European leaders are nowhere to be seen.

Come on Starmer, et-al, bloody say something and stop kowtowing to the pro-Israel lobby!!!

Yep it is simply genocide with the west having no moral leadership and actively supporting it. Depressing as hell where we are today

[MKHIBEE]

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Israel continues to block aid into Gaza, effectively starving civilians to death.

Why is there no international outcry?

What is Starmer doing about this?

All legal and above board, according to the Zionist Starmer. Suggesting otherwise will get you labelled as an “antisemite”.
This is the state of the party that people voted in to power. None of what the Labour Party does now should come as a great surprise to anyone. The signs were there long before the election of the direction they were heading.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Yep it is simply genocide with the west having no moral leadership and actively supporting it. Depressing as hell where we are today

I was at a ceremony marking the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Bergen Belsen Concentration Camp yesterday. I've been there before but a reminder at this time of the industrial scale of the extermination of groups of people deemed to be vermin, only makes it more baffling that a state built in the aftermath of such events can do what it is doing.

[Stairway 2 7]

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I was at a ceremony marking the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Bergen Belsen Concentration Camp yesterday. I've been there before but a reminder at this time of the industrial scale of the extermination of groups of people deemed to be vermin, only makes it more baffling that a state built in the aftermath of such events can do what it is doing.

My Aunt was stationed close to there so have been a few times. Weirdly I was more moved than Auswitz which is more intact, horrendous

[Keith_M]

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I was at a ceremony marking the 80th anniversary of the liberation of Bergen Belsen Concentration Camp yesterday. I've been there before but a reminder at this time of the industrial scale of the extermination of groups of people deemed to be vermin, only makes it more baffling that a state built in the aftermath of such events can do what it is doing.

[DaveF]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx27z0r8n5do

Another probable violation of international law by Israel but those government terrorists won't give a stuff.

Neither will our Govt.

[Jamesie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvqr00278no

Pretty surprising that this remains possible, given how much US firepower has been launched into Yemen over the past few weeks.

[Ozyhibby]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyvqr00278no

Pretty surprising that this remains possible, given how much US firepower has been launched into Yemen over the past few weeks.

They still manage to fire rockets from Gaza.
The only two way to get rid of the problem is peace or genocide.


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[Jamesie]

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They still manage to fire rockets from Gaza.
The only two way to get rid of the problem is peace or genocide.


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Bit easier to fire a rocket into Israel from Gaza than a missile from 2,500km away, though.

[Ozyhibby]

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Bit easier to fire a rocket into Israel from Gaza than a missile from 2,500km away, though.

Iranians provide both. Just a different rocket.


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[Ozyhibby]

Seems like we have went to war with Yemen now. I can’t remember much debate in parliament about this?


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[DaveF]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy04km1zk0o

Israel approves plans to occupy northern Gaza and 'move' the civilian population south. A shameless land grab which is, of course, totally ignored (or perhaps backed) by our Government.

[Keith_M]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy04km1zk0o

Israel approves plans to occupy northern Gaza and 'move' the civilian population south. A shameless land grab which is, of course, totally ignored (or perhaps backed) by our Government.

Wir brauchen Lebensraum

[Hibrandenburg]

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Wir brauchen Lebensraum

If you haven't already, then watch Louis Theroux's "The Settlers" on BBC iPlayer. They're as close to pure evil as you can get.

[DaveF]

Starmer expresses 'deep concern' so that will send shockwaves down Tel Aviv way, right enough.

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If you haven't already, then watch Louis Theroux's "The Settlers" on BBC iPlayer. They're as close to pure evil as you can get.

Indeed, horrific stuff, behind many atrocities lies religion, or people who claim the right to do it in the name of their particular religion or cause.

The current Israeli leadership is practicing genocide on the "battlefield" and ethnic cleansing of a region simultaneously.

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[Ozyhibby]

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Starmer expresses 'deep concern' so that will send shockwaves down Tel Aviv way, right enough.

The man who wanted to cut of their water and stop food getting in?
No doubt he’ll make sure we arm them properly though.


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The man who wanted to cut of their water and stop food getting in?
No doubt he’ll make sure we arm them properly though.


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The very same. Our Prime Minister, the leader of a party once thought to be on the side of the oppressed. Beyond shameful

[Keith_M]

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If you haven't already, then watch Louis Theroux's "The Settlers" on BBC iPlayer. They're as close to pure evil as you can get.

Cheers, I'll have a look.

[Ozyhibby]

Starmer getting his wish.


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[DaveF]

The sickening Israeli genocide continues, bombing a hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqglvlwzx5o

[Scorrie]

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The sickening Israeli genocide continues, bombing a hospital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqglvlwzx5o

I’m finding it more and more difficult to read and watch the news about this. It is ethnic cleansing. We had it in Bosnia and nobody did anything. Then Rwanda and now Palestine. It is totally sickening what is going on

[Ozyhibby]

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I’m finding it more and more difficult to read and watch the news about this. It is ethnic cleansing. We had it in Bosnia and nobody did anything. Then Rwanda and now Palestine. It is totally sickening what is going on

It’s supported by Starmer and the Labour Party,


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[cabbageandribs1875]

THE Co-op could stop selling Israeli products as early as this summer after board members voted in favour of a boycott.

A motion proposed at the Co-op AGM (annual general meeting) calling for a cease to all trading with Israel was backed by around 75% of members

The motion called on the board to demonstrate “moral courage and leadership” by removing Israeli goods from store shelves.

Citing the Co-op’s previous decision to “boycott Russian products” following the invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the motion read: “We urge the board to show moral courage and leadership, apply the same ethical principles and values it did to Russia, and take all Israeli products off the shelves.”

The board said it will consider the thoughts of members expressed by the non-binding vote.

[speedy_gonzales]

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THE Co-op could stop selling Israeli products as early as this summer after board members voted in favour of a boycott.

A motion proposed at the Co-op AGM (annual general meeting) calling for a cease to all trading with Israel was backed by around 75% of members

The motion called on the board to demonstrate “moral courage and leadership” by removing Israeli goods from store shelves.

Citing the Co-op’s previous decision to “boycott Russian products” following the invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the motion read: “We urge the board to show moral courage and leadership, apply the same ethical principles and values it did to Russia, and take all Israeli products off the shelves.”

The board said it will consider the thoughts of members expressed by the non-binding vote.

A brave move, no doubt there will be accusations of the Co-op board being anti-Semitic as that seems to be the response if anyone is critical of the Israeli state.
I can remember when a lot of consumers and retailers boycotted South African products back in their apartheid days. Unsure of what difference it really makes on the larger political stage but if the growers and farmers at the bottom of the food chain start to feel the pinch it might make those higher up take note.

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THE Co-op could stop selling Israeli products as early as this summer after board members voted in favour of a boycott.

A motion proposed at the Co-op AGM (annual general meeting) calling for a cease to all trading with Israel was backed by around 75% of members

The motion called on the board to demonstrate “moral courage and leadership” by removing Israeli goods from store shelves.

Citing the Co-op’s previous decision to “boycott Russian products” following the invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the motion read: “We urge the board to show moral courage and leadership, apply the same ethical principles and values it did to Russia, and take all Israeli products off the shelves.”

The board said it will consider the thoughts of members expressed by the non-binding vote.

Happy to move my shopping to them if they go through with it.


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[Keith_M]

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A brave move, no doubt there will be accusations of the Co-op board being anti-Semitic as that seems to be the response if anyone is critical of the Israeli state.
I can remember when a lot of consumers and retailers boycotted South African products back in their apartheid days. Unsure of what difference it really makes on the larger political stage but if the growers and farmers at the bottom of the food chain start to feel the pinch it might make those higher up take note.

'This will make Jewish Shoppers feel uncomfortable' will be one of the (nonsense) responses.

[CropleyWasGod]

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A brave move, no doubt there will be accusations of the Co-op board being anti-Semitic as that seems to be the response if anyone is critical of the Israeli state.
I can remember when a lot of consumers and retailers boycotted South African products back in their apartheid days. Unsure of what difference it really makes on the larger political stage but if the growers and farmers at the bottom of the food chain start to feel the pinch it might make those higher up take note.

I was never sure of the impact of the SA boycott. I tended to think that the real losers were the farmers themselves, the very people that the SA Government weren't interested in listening to.

A similar attitude probably prevails in the Israeli government ("we know better")