Europe

[Colr]

So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?

[ancient hibee]

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So, if Celtic beat Aberdeen in the cup. Do Aberdeen get a European place and are, therefore, out of the hunt for the Euro spot that comes with league placings?

No.

[BoomtownHibees]

No, they would get Europe based on their league placing. Cup runners-up get nothing

[Pagan Hibernia]

Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

[mcohibs]

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Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

I think so

[Real Emerald]

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Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

3rd place doesn’t get guaranteed group places, it’s the winner of the Scottish Cup. 3rd only gets it if one of the two teams in 1st or 2nd win the cup. 👍

But it is the last season that will happen.

[He's here!]

Celtic will thump that Aberdeen team in the final.

[Hibs Go Bragh]

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Is this the last season where 3rd place gets guaranteed group stage?

This worries me about not finishing 3rd this year but at least we are absolutely guaranteed to finish 3rd next season 😂

[Paul1642]

If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

[SHODAN]

If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

[Pagan Hibernia]

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If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

What a shame hearts missed the cut

[04Sauzee]

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If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

[Paul1642]

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When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

I think I would be the same as us last year, 3 round to get through with the first being pretty early.

[SonOfDavidFrancey]

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If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

I think the danger is that we could easily slip into that sequence if the issue is that apart from the OF Scottish club squads can’t maintain a two game a week schedule.

[Moulin Yarns]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cn8v1yv81l8o


Decent explanation there.

[SHODAN]

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When would the season start for 5th place and how many qualifiers would that be?

June and FIVE BILLION OH MY GOD is my educated guess.

[Prof. Shaggy]

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If Celtic win tomorrow then 5th gets a European place too.

Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.

[bingo70]

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Unless Aberdeen win the cup and finish sixth.

Basically amounts to the same thing though, if Celtic win today, we are pretty much guaranteed European football I think?

St Mirren would need to win their 5 remaining games which isn’t happening and we would need to lose all 5, again unlikely, although I don’t like to tempt fate 😃

[hibsbollah]

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football...s/cn8v1yv81l8o


Decent explanation there.

Yea it is.

And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.

So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.

[DIXIHIBS]

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Yea it is.

And what we need to remember (assuming Celtic win the semi) is 3rd and 4th are both decent outcomes. 5th really isnt, because it doesn’t give you guaranteed group stage, where the real money is. History tells us the Scottish team that finishes 5th will probably get emptied before the group stage.

So we can’t afford to slip up to the point that BOTH Aberdeen and Utd overtake us.

Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?

[overdrive]

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Probably already been covered but surely 4th doesn't guarantee group stage?

It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.

[davhibby]

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It doesn’t under any circumstances. There’s only one group stage guarantee (other than Celtic with the UCL). That is the cup winner that gets that. If Celtic win the cup, that goes to the third place. Without the Celtic cup winner, third gets Europa League second qualifying round. If Celtic win the cup, 4th gets the Europa second qualifying round that third would normally get.

4th still gives you a decent chance though. 2 wins from 3 ties and if you can win the first tie you’d probably be seeded for the Conference League playoff if you lost the 3rd round

[Lago]

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If we start next season playing the way we are then conference league group stages are only the fallback. There’s nothing stopping us winning the playoff and gaining Europa League groups.

In 2023 Aberdeen lost 5-3 on aggregate to BK Haecken. Aberdeen were crap that season.

In 2024 Hearts lost 2-0 on aggregate to Victoria Plzen. Hearts were crap this season.

If we are at our best then there’s nothing stopping us winning a tie of against that calibre of team.

One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

All well and good, but if we start the next season like we did this one, Hibs will be another Scottish clun emptied out of Europe early doors.

[bringbackbenny]

This site explains all the permutations. Not easy to follow but you eventually get there!

https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2025.html

[Jack Hackett]

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What a shame hearts missed the cut

5th would still have been a stretch even if they'd scraped in. So near, and yet so far 😁

[RIP]

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One step at a time though, beat Aberdeen at the weekend, or even draw, and 3rd is well and truly ours to loose.

Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.

[EdinMike]

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Paul I liked the rest of your post but in my view we need to win all of Buddies and Sheep away and Arabs at home to go into our last game against the Cream Buns in an unassailable position.

I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

[HoboHarry]

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I don’t know why everyone is getting so hung up on third…

We win every game and The Rangers lose every game and we’re off to the champions league 🤩

Pit the bong doon, that's long enough.....

[bingo70]

https://x.com/alanftemple/status/191...bl8ISs-zf5CmHg

Good article in the Dundee Courier about permutations that should explain it all pretty clearly.

[HoboHarry]

All if's, but's and maybe's I know but if we had one all of our games in October last year instead of losing 2 and drawing two we'd only be 3 points behind Sevco and they would be sh*****g in their pantaloons. Imagine their terror at the thought of no Champions League