When Are The Post Split Fixtures Announced?

[Nicho87]

3rd place in the league should get the higher reward in Europe rather than the cup winning team

Not just saying it cause we may get it

But over a season rather than 4-6 games the higher team based on league position should be rewarded surely

Absolute nonsense

[bingo70]

Sorry if this has been covered but what does 3rd and 4th place get if Celtic don’t win the cup?

[EH54]

I think the way they look at it rightly or wrongly is the top two teams get the premium European spots with them it going to cup winners then 3rd and 4th. Rather than them seeing 3rd place as the premium spot.

it is what it is been like this for years, happened to us when Jack Ross was in charge only think St Johnstone was screwed out the group stage last minute for whatever reason can’t remember.

[B.H.F.C]

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Sorry if this has been covered but what does 3rd and 4th place get if Celtic don’t win the cup?

Second qualifying round Europa League and second qualifying round Conference League.

[EH54]

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Sorry if this has been covered but what does 3rd and 4th place get if Celtic don’t win the cup?

3rd is 2nd round in europa league, 6 games for group stage europa league and if put out go to next round of Conference so get two chances.

4th is 2nd round of conference league again 6 games from group stage football.

[Hibees1973]

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Second qualifying round Europa League and second qualifying round Conference League.

Virtually impossible to get into the league phase through this route.

Given our seeding we will come across a biggie in the play-off round, for example Aston Villa who we got a couple of years ago.

[B.H.F.C]

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Virtually impossible to get into the league phase through this route.

Given our seeding we will come across a biggie in the play-off round, for example Aston Villa who we got a couple of years ag.

Get through two rounds in the Europa qualifying and you’d be guaranteed Conference League if losing in the playoffs.

[bingo70]

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Virtually impossible to get into the league phase through this route.

Given our seeding we will come across a biggie in the play-off round, for example Aston Villa who we got a couple of years ago.

How come Irish sides seem to manage it from time to time then?

[Hibees1973]

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How come Irish sides seem to manage it from time to time then?

It is complicated but the league champions from countries such as Ireland and other smaller nations get to the league phase through what is called the 'champions route'.

They enter the Champions league, get through one or two rounds against a couple of minnows and if they get knocked out fall directly into the league phase of the Europa League or Conference League.

This is why we see teams such as Shamrock Rovers and FC Noah appear in the league phase.

[B.H.F.C]

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How come Irish sides seem to manage it from time to time then?

I’ll no pretend to know exactly how it works, but I think it’s down to the path they get, the champions path as winners of their domestic league. I think it then means that they avoid any of the real big boys, like us managing to pull out Villa in the Conference League.

[bingo70]

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It is complicated but the league champions from countries such as Ireland and other smaller nations get to the league phase through what is called the 'champions route'.

They enter the Champions league, get through one or two rounds against a couple of minnows and if they get knocked out fall directly into the league phase of the Europa League or Conference League.

This is why we see teams such as Shamrock Rovers and FC Noah appear in the league phase.

****s sake.

I thought that was my way of saying you were wrong but you’ve just really pissed on my chips there.

I’ll put away the passport for now.

[Hibees1973]

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****s sake.

I thought that was my way of saying you were wrong but you’ve just really pissed on my chips there.

I’ll put away the passport for now.

We finish 3rd and Celtic win the cup you will be fine for European fixtures until Christmas.

Just hope it works out this way.

[bingo70]

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We finish 3rd and Celtic win the cup you will be fine for European fixtures until Christmas.

Just hope it works out this way.

Is there any concerns about Bournemouth potentially being in the same European competition as us?

[danhibees1875]

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Is there any concerns about Bournemouth potentially being in the same European competition as us?

It certainly takes the shine off our achievement somewhat.

[Nicho87]

My predictions:

Sat 26 April
Dundee United v Celtic (12:30) UTD LOSS
Aberdeen v Hibernian (15:00) DRAW

3 May
Hibernian v Dundee United (15:00) HIBS WIN
St Mirren v Aberdeen (15:00) ABERDEEN WIN

Sat 10 May
Celtic v Hibernian (15:00) HIBS LOSS
Dundee United v St Mirren (15:00) UTD WIN

Sun 11 May
Rangers v Aberdeen (12:00) ABERDEEN LOSS

Wed 14 May
Aberdeen v Celtic (19:45) ABERDEEN DRAW
Rangers v Dundee United (19:45) UTD LOSS
St Mirren v Hibernian (19:45) DRAW

Sat 17 May
Dundee United v Aberdeen (12:30) DRAW
Hibernian v Rangers (12:30) DRAW

HIBS 59
ABERDEEN 56
UTD 54

First two games are massive

We need to get to that last game against sevco so that it’s done and dusted and completly irrelevant, might be stating the obvious

But getting the job done and not getting beat at Aberdeen is a massive step to getting where we need to be.

GGTTH

[GreenCastle]

I like the idea of playing Aberdeen and Utd early.

We are on a great run of form - it may not last forever but I don’t see it stopping anytime soon.

Worst case scenario we need to beat the Huns final game I reckon Hibs would do it at a sold out Easter Road.

Have full belief and faith in the boys to get this job over the line.

Aberdeen away I would expect to sell out for Hibs fans - it’s like a cup final.

Said it before though we may not even know about Europe till May 25th anyway and AFTER the Scottish cup final.

[bingo70]

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My predictions:

Sat 26 April
Dundee United v Celtic (12:30) UTD LOSS
Aberdeen v Hibernian (15:00) DRAW

3 May
Hibernian v Dundee United (15:00) HIBS WIN
St Mirren v Aberdeen (15:00) ABERDEEN WIN

Sat 10 May
Celtic v Hibernian (15:00) HIBS LOSS
Dundee United v St Mirren (15:00) UTD WIN

Sun 11 May
Rangers v Aberdeen (12:00) ABERDEEN LOSS

Wed 14 May
Aberdeen v Celtic (19:45) ABERDEEN DRAW
Rangers v Dundee United (19:45) UTD LOSS
St Mirren v Hibernian (19:45) DRAW

Sat 17 May
Dundee United v Aberdeen (12:30) DRAW
Hibernian v Rangers (12:30) DRAW

HIBS 59
ABERDEEN 56
UTD 54

First two games are massive

We need to get to that last game against sevco so that it’s done and dusted and completly irrelevant, might be stating the obvious

But getting the job done and not getting beat at Aberdeen is a massive step to getting where we need to be.

GGTTH

St Mirren will win a game or two I think. They’ll beat us, Aberdeen or Dundee Utd imo, hopefully it’s not us.

[Hibs1969]

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Not one Hibs game being shown on SKY. Huge battle for third and they have picked none of the games. Also not bothered with a bottom 6 game which is crazy considering how many teams are still involved.

That’s just Sky being Sky there. I know it’s been done to death on here but BT Sports (as was)gave a much better coverage of Scottish football especially their Friday night games.

Sky’s obsession with covering the Uglies virtually every week to the exclusion of most non Old Firm games is poor and reflects their real interest in our game up here. Some years they can’t even be arsed to show their full complement of Scottish games - can you imagine the outrage if they did that with the EPL?

[nonshinyfinish]

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I think the way they look at it rightly or wrongly is the top two teams get the premium European spots with them it going to cup winners then 3rd and 4th. Rather than them seeing 3rd place as the premium spot.

I believe this is a UEFA rule – the best of the Europa League places has to go to the national cup winner.

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it is what it is been like this for years, happened to us when Jack Ross was in charge only think St Johnstone was screwed out the group stage last minute for whatever reason can’t remember.

That was to do with the reassignment of an extra Europa League place (caused by the Europa League winner getting a Champions League place). Earlier in the season it was assumed that Scotland would benefit, based on our position in the coefficient table and how UEFA had previously handled the reassignment. However, UEFA didn't confirm it until later in the season and in the end it went to another country (Cyprus IIRC).

Subsequently (the following season maybe?) our coefficient increased enough that our standard cup winner/third place entry was the Europa League playoff round, giving the current situation.

[superfurryhibby]

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It certainly takes the shine off our achievement somewhat.

Does it? Not for me in the slightest.

[hibsbollah]

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My predictions:

Sat 26 April
Dundee United v Celtic (12:30) UTD LOSS
Aberdeen v Hibernian (15:00) DRAW

3 May
Hibernian v Dundee United (15:00) HIBS WIN
St Mirren v Aberdeen (15:00) ABERDEEN WIN

Sat 10 May
Celtic v Hibernian (15:00) HIBS LOSS
Dundee United v St Mirren (15:00) UTD WIN

Sun 11 May
Rangers v Aberdeen (12:00) ABERDEEN LOSS

Wed 14 May
Aberdeen v Celtic (19:45) ABERDEEN DRAW
Rangers v Dundee United (19:45) UTD LOSS
St Mirren v Hibernian (19:45) DRAW

Sat 17 May
Dundee United v Aberdeen (12:30) DRAW
Hibernian v Rangers (12:30) DRAW

HIBS 59
ABERDEEN 56
UTD 54

First two games are massive

We need to get to that last game against sevco so that it’s done and dusted and completly irrelevant, might be stating the obvious

But getting the job done and not getting beat at Aberdeen is a massive step to getting where we need to be.

GGTTH

That projects us doing relatively poorly (6 points from 15) but still getting 3rd with something to spare.

[SteveHFC]

stats are in our favour

last 10 seasons the team that was 3rd before split finshed 3rd or higher
19/20 was of course when the league stopped at 30 games due to covid


will add to that points difference between 3rd and 4th before split and final points usually stay around the same

[hibsbollah]

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stats are in our favour

last 10 seasons the team that was 3rd before split finshed 3rd or higher
19/20 was of course when the league stopped at 30 games due to covid

Thats one of those ‘correlation not causation’ stats. Bit of a coincidence rather than anything else.

[Nicho87]

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That projects us doing relatively poorly (6 points from 15) but still getting 3rd with something to spare.

Tried to be realistic as possible

I still think United and Aberdeen will chuck a win in against rangers probably just depends who

Similarly I think we could go to st Mirren and pick up a huge win. I just really don’t want us to be going to the last game needing something. Not good for the heart.

As I said first two games massive.

[YehButNoBut]

Think we'll draw against Aberdeen and beat Dundee Utd & St Mirren, that'll do for securing 3rd.

[Nicho87]

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That projects us doing relatively poorly (6 points from 15) but still getting 3rd with something to spare.

Tried to be realistic as possible

I still think United and Aberdeen will chuck a win in against rangers probably just depends who

Similarly I think we could go to st Mirren and pick up a huge win. I just really don’t want us to be going to the last game needing something. Not good for the heart.

As I said first two games massive.

[Not In The Know]

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3rd place in the league should get the higher reward in Europe rather than the cup winning team

Not just saying it cause we may get it

But over a season rather than 4-6 games the higher team based on league position should be rewarded surely

Absolute nonsense

Thats down to UEFA - it maintains a bit control / prestige for the national associations as the clubs run the top leagues these days

[Not In The Know]

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Tried to be realistic as possible

I still think United and Aberdeen will chuck a win in against rangers probably just depends who

Similarly I think we could go to st Mirren and pick up a huge win. I just really don’t want us to be going to the last game needing something. Not good for the heart.

As I said first two games massive.

If St mirren have someting to play for by the time we meet them that means they have taken points of other teams which would be ideal.

[NAE NOOKIE]

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If St mirren have someting to play for by the time we meet them that means they have taken points of other teams which would be ideal.

St Mirren are the fly in everybody's ointment .... while they still have a mathematical chance of finishing 4th or 5th they will be well up for it and with everybody playing each other it's not impossible they could make a late run.

The fact is we have 5 cup finals coming up, with the possibility of a huge reward at the end of them .... but so do Aberdeen and Dundee United .... I can see this going down to the wire and I can only imagine what a final day against Sevco needing to win to make 3rd will be like .... have a feeling it could make the atmosphere against AEK Athens look like a group stage league cup tie