(Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

[Hibs4185]

I get stopped every time I go to the US. Not just stopped but carted off to a seperate zone beside a lot of dodgy looking folks .

First time it was with my in laws. My father in law was saying to my wife I must have something in my background that is dodgy.

Turns out it’s because I have a very common name and there is a few people with my name banned from the US.

No chance im going now!

[Bristolhibby]

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Historically I absolutely love the USA. I’ve always enjoyed visiting and have had family in various parts of the country all my life.

The idea of passing up a chance to visit is pretty much anathema but I don’t think I can go back until it changes.

Apart from anything else - I’ve had some robust conversations re Trump on WhatsApp. A random check including confiscation of phone could probably land me in hot water. Not a risk worth taking in the current climate, and that’s a white man saying that.

I wonder how many of their industries are currently being savaged by the actions of this regime? Tourism? Defence? Motor manufacture?

Mad that people are saying take a burner phone with you to America.

Even more insane the fact that they can even ask you to unlock your phone.

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[marinello59]

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Historically I absolutely love the USA. I’ve always enjoyed visiting and have had family in various parts of the country all my life.

The idea of passing up a chance to visit is pretty much anathema but I don’t think I can go back until it changes.

Apart from anything else - I’ve had some robust conversations re Trump on WhatsApp. A random check including confiscation of phone could probably land me in hot water. Not a risk worth taking in the current climate, and that’s a white man saying that.

I wonder how many of their industries are currently being savaged by the actions of this regime? Tourism? Defence? Motor manufacture?

Until this regime changes it’s best avoided.

[Bostonhibby]

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Until this regime changes it’s best avoided.

On the list with North Korea, Belarus, Russia, Israel and a fair chunk of the Arab world fttb.

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[Moulin Yarns]

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I get stopped every time I go to the US. Not just stopped but carted off to a seperate zone beside a lot of dodgy looking folks .

First time it was with my in laws. My father in law was saying to my wife I must have something in my background that is dodgy.

Turns out it’s because I have a very common name and there is a few people with my name banned from the US.

No chance im going now!

Been twice and the same thing happened. Apparently I share my name with some Jamaican drug lord!!

🤣

[Bridge hibs]

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Been twice and the same thing happened. Apparently I share my name with some Jamaican drug lord!!

🤣

Nankissoon Boodram ? 😳

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https://bsky.app/profile/implausible.../3ll36ddonjc2w

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Denmark is not being a good ally. If we need to take Greenland that is what President Trump will do because he doesn't care about what Europeans scream at us.

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Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of The Atlantic and the moderator of Washington Week With The Atlantic.

[Hibrandenburg]

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Jeffrey Goldberg is the editor in chief of The Atlantic and the moderator of Washington Week With The Atlantic.

Probably hoping he'd publish and then get him up on some Trumped up charge of treason.

[grunt]

[Off the bar]

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These are the same people who wanted Clinton jailed for using a private email server and they’re deciding who to bomb on a WhatsApp group chat where they’ve accidentally included a journalist. ****ing clowns.

[Smartie]

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Some absolutely cracking clips on this thread.

[DaveF]

Trump knows nothing about the report.

Hesgeth discredits the journalist and says no one texted war plans.

It's just one lie after another.

[marinello59]

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Trump knows nothing about the report.

Hesgeth discredits the journalist and says no one texted war plans.

It's just one lie after another.

If I was Jeffrey Goldberg I wouldn't be going near hotel balconies for a while.

[Ozyhibby]

https://www.newsweek.com/tesla-sales...n-musk-2049902

Tesla sales down 49%



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[Paulie Walnuts]

The ineptitude to allow the group chat incident to happen is truly staggering.

[Jones28]

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The ineptitude to allow the group chat incident to happen is truly staggering.

It truly is, Simon Marks on LBC saying that one of them has their auto-delete on when ALL government communication should be archived.

Heads should roll for this, but of course this is Trumps America, where he knows nothing and as a result nothing will happen.

Russia, China and everyone else will be laughing at this.

[Ozyhibby]

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It truly is, Simon Marks on LBC saying that one of them has their auto-delete on when ALL government communication should be archived.

Heads should roll for this, but of course this is Trumps America, where he knows nothing and as a result nothing will happen.

Russia, China and everyone else will be laughing at this.

Heads may well roll if it suits Trump. He is not shy about firing people although so far this administration has been quieter than the last one.


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[Smartie]

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The ineptitude to allow the group chat incident to happen is truly staggering.

I've seen an alternative explanation... which is that it is a very deliberate mistake and leak, which allows certain opinions and views to be aired to the public around the globe.

That obviously suggests competence, tact and strategic intelligence on behalf of those involved so I don't believe that explanation. It'll gain momentum amongst a certain, expected, demographic though.

I'm 100% of the belief that they're a shower of imbeciles who don't have a clue what they're doing and that this is the sort of thing that happens when loyalty and compliance are rewarded over competence and smarts.

And also - that we better get used to it.

[Hibernian Verse]

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I've seen an alternative explanation... which is that it is a very deliberate mistake and leak, which allows certain opinions and views to be aired to the public around the globe.

That obviously suggests competence, tact and strategic intelligence on behalf of those involved so I don't believe that explanation. It'll gain momentum amongst a certain, expected, demographic though.

I'm 100% of the belief that they're a shower of imbeciles who don't have a clue what they're doing and that this is the sort of thing that happens when loyalty and compliance are rewarded over competence and smarts.

And also - that we better get used to it.

That's where I'm at. There is no way this isn't a calculated move. Whoever started the group chat has selected the journalist and taken the time to do so.

[Kato]

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That's where I'm at. There is no way this isn't a calculated move. Whoever started the group chat has selected the journalist and taken the time to do so.

Hegseths hysterical reaction says to me they just messed up.

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[The Tubs]

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I've seen an alternative explanation... which is that it is a very deliberate mistake and leak, which allows certain opinions and views to be aired to the public around the globe.

That obviously suggests competence, tact and strategic intelligence on behalf of those involved so I don't believe that explanation. It'll gain momentum amongst a certain, expected, demographic though.

I'm 100% of the belief that they're a shower of imbeciles who don't have a clue what they're doing and that this is the sort of thing that happens when loyalty and compliance are rewarded over competence and smarts.

And also - that we better get used to it.

That's what I started thinking this morning. Something like politics as entertainment, which has become Trump's forte. If you see it through this perspective, you can imagine these clowns are the heroes of some film.

[Smartie]

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That's what I started thinking this morning. Something like politics as entertainment, which has become Trump's forte. If you see it through this perspective, you can imagine these clowns are the heroes of some film.

If you think about who the Trump administration target most of their communications at... the content of these messages is 100% aligned with their usual messaging.

So whilst it's embarrassing on a national security level, it's not embarrassing or inconsistent on any other level ie Vance chucking a pro-Ukraine strop, there being pro DEI messages, slagging of the big boss or the like. They probably don't even care about the national security stuff as they rarely appear to be a serious regime anyway as opposed to bunch of cretins.

Still - hear hooves, think horses, not zebras. It's most likely incompetence.

[matty_f]

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That's where I'm at. There is no way this isn't a calculated move. Whoever started the group chat has selected the journalist and taken the time to do so.

It's incompetence.

They don't need to do subtlety, this is a president who boasted about grabbing women by the p****, a convicted criminal, a sex offender, a fraudster, a racist. A guy who pardoned people who stormed the White House and humiliated a peer visiting the White House to make a point.

Trump's whole image centres on being the one who decides what happens, who sees himself as untouchable no matter what.

He doesn't need to accidently leak anything, he can say it out loud and idiots lap it up.

These are incompetents, there's no doubt about it imho.

[nonshinyfinish]

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A guy who pardoned people who stormed the White House

Fake news!

(They stormed the Capitol building)

[matty_f]

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Fake news!

(They stormed the Capitol building)

Ah I'm not a details guy, I think that's clearly been established by now 🙈

[Bostonhibby]

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Ah I'm not a details guy, I think that's clearly been established by now

Don't worry about it, they'll do the White House next time.

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[Pretty Boy]

I can't make my mind up on this one.

They are so incompetent it wouldn't be a shock if it was an error. On the other hand doing it deliberately while pretending it was a mistake seems exactly the kind of thing a moron would do and think was clever.

[Ozyhibby]

They are now claiming it wasn’t classified which gives the journalist free rein to publish the lot. Not smart.


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[Bostonhibby]

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They are now claiming it wasn’t classified which gives the journalist free rein to publish the lot. Not smart.


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Seems like a terrific foreign policy idea to tell the "enemy" in unclassified form what you are going to to to them and when and at the same time let would be hostile groups have the names of the decision makers as well.

Simultaneously slagging off allies whose territory, information and goodwill you actually do need is so Trump/Vance.



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