SNP are lying b******s as well !

[jamie_1875]

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I read it because you said it was a fair summary. It was not. It was a hack job by someone with a longstanding dislike of Scottish independence, Sturgeon and the SNP. He couldn't be fair about her if his life depended on it.

Opinions eh! I thought it was fair.

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Just don't read them! And it was an opinion piece and lots of people believe she did fail miserably.

Not that many as she kept winning elections.


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From a personal perspective, when the SNP came to power and she became the Cabinet Secretary for Health she led a mini revolution in the NHS in Scotland.

Scotland made its own path then and I wouldn't be the only one to suggest that led to the Scottish NHS outperforming it's neighbours since then. I was speaking with the head of the NHS in England at a UK medical conference about the merits of the different systems a few years after the divergence. After a fair discussion I asked him 'bottom line, where would you prefer to be if you were ill?' "Scotland" he said!

If only the NHS (UK wide, even the not as good England and Wales) was as good now as it was then.

My wife is a teacher who specialises in kids who need additional support. Up here, all the relevant departments share the info and speak to each other.

In England, all the departments don’t, therefore making it much more difficult to identify examples of abuse etc.

It’s not perfect in Scotland but we have a joined up system which is far better at helping the individuals that need it more efficiently

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My wife is a teacher who specialises in kids who need additional support. Up here, all the relevant departments share the info and speak to each other.

In England, all the departments don’t, therefore making it much more difficult to identify examples of abuse etc.

It’s not perfect in Scotland but we have a joined up system which is far better at helping the individuals that need it more efficiently

That reflects in the NHS too. In Scotland there's collaboration between different parts of the NHS and other agencies. It works well the vast majority of the time.

In England there's 'competition' between different parts of the NHS AND private healthcare providers. The NHS Trusts don't trust each other.

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My wife is a teacher who specialises in kids who need additional support. Up here, all the relevant departments share the info and speak to each other.

In England, all the departments don’t, therefore making it much more difficult to identify examples of abuse etc.

It’s not perfect in Scotland but we have a joined up system which is far better at helping the individuals that need it more efficiently

Strangely, that’s not my experience in Berwick, there was a monthly meeting where departments and various organisations, ie police, social services, children’s services, mental health, housing, licensing, youth project, schools, child protection etc would discuss and deal with issues to ensure that anybody in need of intervention was highlighted and the correct service was allocated tasks and report back. The protocol was that all information was provided.

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Strangely, that’s not my experience in Berwick, there was a monthly meeting where departments and various organisations, ie police, social services, children’s services, mental health, housing, licensing, youth project, schools, child protection etc would discuss and deal with issues to ensure that anybody in need of intervention was highlighted and the correct service was allocated tasks and report back. The protocol was that all information was provided.

Yeah but we all know that Berwick is really part of Scotland

[Berwickhibby]

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Yeah but we all know that Berwick is really part of Scotland

Should be Capital of Berwickshire…. Changed hands 14 times

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Should be Capital of Berwickshire…. Changed hands 14 times

Berwick should never have made peace with Moscow then they would still have been too afraid to invade Ukraine.

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Berwick should never have made peace with Moscow then they would still have been too afraid to invade Ukraine.

always a great tale to tell about the town

[Ozyhibby]

https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-13332075

Must keep this going to help Labour.


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https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-13332075

Must keep this going to help Labour.


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No idea how they think Curtice is still relevant. We went to a lecture of his about 10 years ago and it was dire, took us all our time not to walk out.

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https://news.sky.com/story/bluesky-13332075

Must keep this going to help Labour.


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"Sky News has learned that there are currently 10 senior officers working on the case"


I thought the investigation was complete and it was now with the CPS??

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"Sky News has learned that there are currently 10 senior officers working on the case"


I thought the investigation was complete and it was now with the CPS??

It’s no wonder that white collar crime goes unpunished so much. The SNP is tiny with only about 20 employees involved yet police Scotland can’t work out if any money is missing after two years and £2m+ spent investigating.


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It’s no wonder that white collar crime goes unpunished so much. The SNP is tiny with only about 20 employees involved yet police Scotland can’t work out if any money is missing after two years and £2m+ spent investigating.

Was that the charge? I thought it was about money not being spent for the intended purpose? The auditors didn't flag up any missing money.

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Was that the charge? I thought it was about money not being spent for the intended purpose? The auditors didn't flag up any missing money.

Murrell was charged with embezzlement so it's moved on. It's taking a ridiculous amount of time, he was charged nearly a year ago and no sign of a court date.

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Murrell was charged with embezzlement so it's moved on.

Ok thanks.

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It's taking a ridiculous amount of time, he was charged nearly a year ago and no sign of a court date.

Isn't the delay due to CoPFS deciding whether there's a case to answer?

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Murrell was charged with embezzlement so it's moved on. It's taking a ridiculous amount of time, he was charged nearly a year ago and no sign of a court date.

Perfectly timed post, he’s appeared in court today charged with embezzlement.

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Perfectly timed post, he’s appeared in court today charged with embezzlement.

And sturgeon officially cleared.


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And sturgeon officially cleared.


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Along with Colin Beattie, "no longer under investigation"

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Along with Colin Beattie, "no longer under investigation"

Easily stretch it another year before a trial.


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Easily stretch it another year before a trial.


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Yup, this is just the start of it. It's gonna be a long year. No point checking the BBC TV guide for the foreseeable, wall to wall Murrell.

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Swinney should move sharply clearing out Police Scotland before they come for him. Two SNP first ministers investigated and no convictions to show for it. Millions of pounds spent and police hours wasted.


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Perfectly timed post, he’s appeared in court today charged with embezzlement.

Thanks for posting. When do we find out how much he's alleged to have embezzled?

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Thanks for posting. When do we find out how much he's alleged to have embezzled?

How would I know?

[Ozyhibby]

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Thanks for posting. When do we find out how much he's alleged to have embezzled?

When is the Scottish election?


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Swinney should move sharply clearing out Police Scotland before they come for him. Two SNP first ministers investigated and no convictions to show for it. Millions of pounds spent and police hours wasted.


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With a name like Honest John they've no chance of snaring big John, he's beyond reproach

[jamie_1875]

But what happened to the plot to get Sturgeon? Surely if this was a big set up to get to the SNP and damage Independence they would have charged her as well as that would have been headline grabbing stuff in the run up to 2026 election.

If Murrell is found guilty is it still a big plot?

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How would I know?

You're new to this social media thing, eh?

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But what happened to the plot to get Sturgeon? Surely if this was a big set up to get to the SNP and damage Independence they would have charged her as well as that would have been headline grabbing stuff in the run up to 2026 election.

If Murrell is found guilty is it still a big plot?

You don't think the blue tents, the four year investigation, the constant coverage in the BBC and the Daily Record, the arrest and the thousands of comments on social media about her likely guilt have had sufficient impact?

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You don't think the blue tents, the four year investigation, the constant coverage in the BBC and the Daily Record, the arrest and the thousands of comments on social media about her likely guilt have had sufficient impact?

But if this was the big plot to get her and the SNP why hasn't she been charged? Surely that would be the end game in this plot?