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    Reform are concerning me, a few guys I know, who I genuinely believed were sensible have started saying they will support reform WTF 🤬


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    This is an ACTUAL bill presented to the House of Representatives.

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-...ouse-bill/1161


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    Look I don't know if this one is true or not. But if it is ...


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    Surely that will be laughed out of Congress.

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    Surely that will be laughed out of Congress.
    In Normal Times, yeah.

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    Nothing to do with me Guv.


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    I watched a bit of the Musk / Trump thing on Sky News last night.

    It's still probably more surreal than anything right now, sinister the adjective that follows most closely.

    Probably won't be long before it all gets a bit tedious.


    It'll be interesting to see what follows on from this week's Ramstein meeting. This is the first time they'll be doing all of this sort of thing since the American adults left the building.
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    Literally the first image that came in to my head after seeing this photo…. What a sad time we live in.

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    Taking money from New York?


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    Literally the first image that came in to my head after seeing this photo…. What a sad time we live in.

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    Is that Joe Goebbels, Reich Minister of Propaganda 1933-45, there?

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    Oh.


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    Trumps Niece Mary Trump(and believe me she despises him as much as every other right thinking decent human being) says the only reason he is meeting Putin in Moscow is to pick up his bonus, i believe her


    i see russian propagandist Tulsi Gabbard has been voted in for Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard’s history with Russia is even more concerning than you think
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    https://bsky.app/profile/wutangforch.../3lhz2h2sp7s2j

    Listen to Musk's random-letters wee boy whispering

    Apparently genuine.
    (Apologies for posting the link instead of the actual video. Can't figure out how to do that.)
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    It's amazing how all these authoritarians are resurging, trump putin belarus guy hungarian guy,it'sa kinda scary thought that they can do what the hell they want.

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    Three weeks in ...


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    Trump needs a budget passed next month. He’ll need the democrats to do it. I don’t think it will happen.


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    We are all too passive, we sit behind computer screens and type that we're outraged and that it won't do. But we are so subservient, the only people with any energy and desire to do anything are the room temperature IQ fascists and they're certainly winning. They are so easily manipulated, they genuinely believe they've got more in common with a politician, nay Oligarch, than an immigrant getting off a boat from Somalia, it's frightening the level of their intellect.

    Number 1 problem in the developed world? Elligible voters that simply do not vote, especially the young, the percentage of young people under 30 who simply do not, and have never voted, is utterly staggering. It should be a legal obligation to vote in your countries elections, men and women fought and died in their millions so that you have the freedom and right to vote, so every time someone doesn't vote it's a kick in the face to all the people who went through the hell of fighting for their country and democracy, and I will never ever buy the "don't like any of them" line, there is always an independent that is standing on a more locally focussed ticket, there will be parties like the Greens who have wealth redistribution as a goal. Wealth inequality is a very close second and one that goes hand in hand with voting really, but I'm not sure that's s topic for this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Exile View Post
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    We are all too passive, we sit behind computer screens and type that we're outraged and that it won't do. But we are so subservient, the only people with any energy and desire to do anything are the room temperature IQ fascists and they're certainly winning. They are so easily manipulated, they genuinely believe they've got more in common with a politician, nay Oligarch, than an immigrant getting off a boat from Somalia, it's frightening the level of their intellect.

    Number 1 problem in the developed world? Elligible voters that simply do not vote, especially the young, the percentage of young people under 30 who simply do not, and have never voted, is utterly staggering. It should be a legal obligation to vote in your countries elections, men and women fought and died in their millions so that you have the freedom and right to vote, so every time someone doesn't vote it's a kick in the face to all the people who went through the hell of fighting for their country and democracy, and I will never ever buy the "don't like any of them" line, there is always an independent that is standing on a more locally focussed ticket, there will be parties like the Greens who have wealth redistribution as a goal. Wealth inequality is a very close second and one that goes hand in hand with voting really, but I'm not sure that's s topic for this thread.
    I get where you are coming from but anti Fascist marches are huge affairs and groups like Just Stop Oil are so committed they put their liberty, which has never been in doubt, at risk through direct action. I'm not far off your view though

    I don't disagree that voting should be compulsory but you should not be forced to indicate a preference for a candidate. I frequently spoil my paper but always vote. None of the above winning an election is actually a potential way to change democracy or rather re-introduce it as it doesn't really exist for practical purposes now. Voting in the current democracy is almost pointless. The spread of news and coverage is ridiculously targeted at the top two Parties and Reform and formerly UKP pick up most of the rest when talking about UK elections. I'd love people to vote on what they actually believe but first past the post and blindly accepting what politicians are saying rather than how they vote in debates etc mean voters often vote against their beliefs and interests

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    Quote Originally Posted by wookie70 View Post
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    I get where you are coming from but anti Fascist marches are huge affairs and groups like Just Stop Oil are so committed they put their liberty, which has never been in doubt, at risk through direct action. I'm not far off your view though

    I don't disagree that voting should be compulsory but you should not be forced to indicate a preference for a candidate. I frequently spoil my paper but always vote. None of the above winning an election is actually a potential way to change democracy or rather re-introduce it as it doesn't really exist for practical purposes now. Voting in the current democracy is almost pointless. The spread of news and coverage is ridiculously targeted at the top two Parties and Reform and formerly UKP pick up most of the rest when talking about UK elections. I'd love people to vote on what they actually believe but first past the post and blindly accepting what politicians are saying rather than how they vote in debates etc mean voters often vote against their beliefs and interests
    I agree on the spoiling the paper issue. That should always be an option. I think a 'none of the above' option would be good too. One of my wife's friends rarely votes. When she does, she votes based on either which male candidate is "hottest" or which party leader is "hottest" or trendy. This is a woman about to turn 40 BTW, not some 18 year old. If that's the standard of insight of non-voters, I'm not sure making it compulsory is as good an idea as it seems.

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    another Putin Puppet


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    He's an absolute ****bag. I feel like, ultimately, it'll end badly for him*, but it's astonishing the damage he's being allowed to do in the meantime. All while throwing spiteful, childish insults at vulnerable people, and folks just doing the jobs that they were hired to do.

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    The are banning anti-depressants. That will go well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    The are banning anti-depressants. That will go well.


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    I don't read it as that at all.

    There's definitely a debate to be had on the use of SSRIs and other types of treatments, particularly among children, so I don't see any issue with that. That debate is ongoing throughout the world. The use of the word "threat" isn't helpful, sure, but I don't see mention of a "ban".

    I don't see much wrong with the rest of that statement, either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    The are banning anti-depressants. That will go well.


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    It's an issue in Scotland with 1 in 5 adults on anti depressants. Maybe it should be looked at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod View Post
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    I don't read it as that at all.

    There's definitely a debate to be had on the use of SSRIs and other types of treatments, particularly among children, so I don't see any issue with that. That debate is ongoing throughout the world. The use of the word "threat" isn't helpful, sure, but I don't see mention of a "ban".

    I don't see much wrong with the rest of that statement, either.
    I guess they deserve the benefit of the doubt.


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    I was aware of Trump’s criminality but didn’t know that R.Kennedy Jr., his health secretary was a convicted felon for possession of heroin.

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    It's an issue in Scotland with 1 in 5 adults on anti depressants. Maybe it should be looked at.
    Making Scotland less ****ing depressing is how I'd go about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamie_1875 View Post
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    It's an issue in Scotland with 1 in 5 adults on anti depressants. Maybe it should be looked at.
    In Americas case it would put them up against Pharmaceutical companies who will lobby their way out of any issues.
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