Pet Peeves IV

[speedy_gonzales]

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Allegedly false accusations.


https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1GzCUZrvc1/

Unsure what you're reading as being false.
In their original rant about how the cafe is struggling they briefly mention minimum wage, in their follow up apology/explanation they mention that they've always paid minimum wage, in fact they pay above minimum wage but they still cite the increases across the board as being difficult for them especially when they have a product that (they admit) is priced at the upper end of the market so have little room to move.
They clearly acknowledge they have a problem, they are even trialing opening for weekday mornings just as PB suggested.

[O'Rourke3]

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Yes. But they're impractical on a bottle. The lid is in the way when you're trying to drink from it. I rip them off anyway. You lose a bit of your drink but at least the lid is off. Pointless.

Perhaps it would have been better just to do away with plastic bottles and have us get used to the idea of that!

Just push it back further. It's designed to open fully, let you drink and keep the recycling together.

[DH1875]

Anyone else find the big bottles (plastic 2 ltr) of Irn Bru are harder to open?

[speedy_gonzales]

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Anyone else find the big bottles (plastic 2 ltr) of Irn Bru are harder to open?

Is that because the caps are smaller in height (to save plastic) so less grip to unscrew?

[danhibees1875]

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Yes. But they're impractical on a bottle. The lid is in the way when you're trying to drink from it. I rip them off anyway. You lose a bit of your drink but at least the lid is off. Pointless.

Perhaps it would have been better just to do away with plastic bottles and have us get used to the idea of that!

I'm not a fan either.

I don't really want to be the sort of person who says things like this but when you see/consider the widescale use of un-environmentally friendly products here and in other countries I do wonder just how much benefit a marginal increase in recycling rate for bottle tops is going to have...

[Pretty Boy]

See when people say the stuck on bottle tops are impractical what is it that is happening to them? I see memes of people with the bottle jammed against their nose or their chin resting on the lid but that seems like being deliberately obtuse.

I just rotate the bottle slightly so the lid is to the side and put a finger on top of it and the lid is nowhere near my face. Tbh I don't even need the finger and the lid seems to miss my face. Maybe I just have really emaciated cheeks but I don't think so. Still easy enough to hold the bottle safely and I don't notice any obvious obstruction to being able to drink it compared to totally removing the lid.

[He's here!]

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See when people say the stuck on bottle tops are impractical what is it that is happening to them? I see memes of people with the bottle jammed against their nose or their chin resting on the lid but that seems like being deliberately obtuse.

I just rotate the bottle slightly so the lid is to the side and put a finger on top of it and the lid is nowhere near my face. Tbh I don't even need the finger and the lid seems to miss my face. Maybe I just have really emaciated cheeks but I don't think so. Still easy enough to hold the bottle safely and I don't notice any obvious obstruction to being able to drink it compared to totally removing the lid.

It's more the pouring of, say, a glass of orange juice by kids that can get messy due to the attached lid. Milk's not a problem as we switched to glass bottles years ago.

[Wilson]

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See when people say the stuck on bottle tops are impractical what is it that is happening to them? I see memes of people with the bottle jammed against their nose or their chin resting on the lid but that seems like being deliberately obtuse.

I just rotate the bottle slightly so the lid is to the side and put a finger on top of it and the lid is nowhere near my face. Tbh I don't even need the finger and the lid seems to miss my face. Maybe I just have really emaciated cheeks but I don't think so. Still easy enough to hold the bottle safely and I don't notice any obvious obstruction to being able to drink it compared to totally removing the lid.

Perhaps there is variance between brands / types of bottles? I find them to be in the way. Pressing where they shouldn't be. I remove them rather than tolerate them.

The lid is kept with the bottle when I screw it back on when I'm finished.

[silverhibee]

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Yes. But they're impractical on a bottle. The lid is in the way when you're trying to drink from it. I rip them off anyway. You lose a bit of your drink but at least the lid is off. Pointless.

Perhaps it would have been better just to do away with plastic bottles and have us get used to the idea of that!

Or put the lid bit under your chin and drink it and it’s not a problem, strangely enough the last few times I have bought multi pack water it has been the old tops.

[Wilson]

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Or put the lid bit under your chin and drink it and it’s not a problem, strangely enough the last few times I have bought multi pack water it has been the old tops.

I've just noticed that with the water I've got. Perhaps they haven't got round to it. Lid off. Drink water. Lid on. No grand 'solution' required.

[Keith_M]

Probably a bit serious for this board but my current Pet Peeve is politics: the number of countries moving to the right wing, extremism, totalitarianism...

[J-C]

I find prior to the new tops that I needed to keep the old ones as I...
a) didn't want to spill my fizzy juice
b) didn't want to let it go flat.

So keeping the bottle tops with the bottles was never a real problem.

[hibsbollah]

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Probably a bit serious for this board but my current Pet Peeve is politics: the number of countries moving to the right wing, extremism, totalitarianism...

Turn off the news. Delete twitter. But google maps will still tell you its called ‘Gulf of America’ now.

The world has gone batsheet crazy.

[Pretty Boy]

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Probably a bit serious for this board but my current Pet Peeve is politics: the number of countries moving to the right wing, extremism, totalitarianism...

Somewhat related because it stems from the nasty politics:

The normalisation of calling people '******s', 'mongos' or '*******s' again. It was a dying 'art' when I was at school 20 something years ago but seems to be back with a vengeance and challenging it gets the predictable 'don't be so woke'. Sadly it seems particularly prevalent in my generation who really should know better.

Edit: Thankfully the swear filter doesn't seem to like most of these words but you get the idea.

[Hibspur]

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I've just noticed that with the water I've got. Perhaps they haven't got round to it. Lid off. Drink water. Lid on. No grand 'solution' required.

It may depend what brand it is. From what I recall, this is an EU initiative and isn't actually required in the UK. The problem is the manufacturers can't afford to make a UK-only version so for most brands it's more economical for everybody just to get the attached lids.

[ErinGoBraghHFC]

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Unsustainable businesses blaming having to pay their staff a better wage for their woes.

I saw a social media post from a 'wacky' southside cafe/bakery in Glasgow, one of those places that only exist in the southside of Glasgow or nouveau Leith or the like. At first I felt a bit bad for them but then they dropped the line 'and the rise in minimum wage is the final straw'.

A bit digging suggests this places has a USP of selling cookies shaped like a *****. That's their business, they sell cookies hilariously shaped like male sexual organs with swear words on them. They also sell coffee and like everywhere that sells coffee that isn't Costa or Starbucks there is a big story about how it's the best coffee and a whole load of other hyperbole that Trump would be proud of. Then I found out they charge £9 for one cookie. And they don't open until 10am thus missing that period between 7 and 9 when people might grab a coffee on the way to work. And sometimes they don't open at all because of 'other commitments'. And their cookies are totally inappropriate for kids, you know the demographic most likely to want to buy sickly sweet cookies.

So basically they open when they fancy. Produce a product that they can't sell at a price people are willing to pay day to day. Have a product that is pretty niche to start with and is most likely a one time purchase for most people. A quick glance on Google suggests they have at least 2 competitors within about 5 doors either who are cheaper, have a wider product range and open for longer. One is a donut place that seems to be able to sell donuts for about the half the price of a willy cookie. Amazing.

But in spite of all it's the staffs fault for not being willing to work for £3 and hour. That is basically what it boils down to: if we could pay less then we would. Not that they have created a totally unsustainable business. Also how many people do they think will be able to pay £9 for a wacky cookie if wages don't go up? The answer is even less than now. I make it a point to avoid any business that actively complains publicly about having to pay a fair wage (that isn't really a fair wage but it's what we have).

Rant over.

Their cookies are magic right enough… but their rant was a bit “Rude” wasn’t it **** them tbh, if you choose to set up shop in a place like Leith or Shawlands and don’t have the turnover to turn a profit that’s your fault, should’ve chose somewhere with lower rents. I’m sure the target audience for a £9 cookie can afford to commute.


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[danhibees1875]

This barely qualifies as a peeve, but I'd like to be able to bet on the correct score at the rugby.

I like the idea, and presumably the odds, of betting on a game to end 39-28 and then watching the scores tick up. I'd be sitting there thinking "right it's 26-23, 10 mins to go so I just want them to get 2 3"s here, then a converted try and concede a try which isn't converted - could happen!".

[Hibspur]

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Turn off the news. Delete twitter. But google maps will still tell you its called ‘Gulf of America’ now.

The world has gone batsheet crazy.

Not so much going crazy as the issues which matter to so many voters these days playing into the hands of the right. Trump's victory was more comprehensive than even he could probably have imagined. Couple that with a UK perspective of Starmer and Swinney being so utterly uninspiring/hapless and you can understand why Reform are surging in the polls.

[matty_f]

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Not so much going crazy as the issues which matter to so many voters these days playing into the hands of the right. Trump's victory was more comprehensive than even he could probably have imagined. Couple that with a UK perspective of Starmer and Swinney being so utterly uninspiring/hapless and you can understand why Reform are surging in the polls.

Reform have been given a massive boost by media and social media companies pushing their agenda.

Farage should have had nowhere near the air time he had over the last decade or so but he’s been platformed at every opportunity and that’s given legitimacy to right wing views.

You look on social media - Twitter in particular - and it’s all aimed at that narrative and folk see enough of it and think it’s the popular view, so eventually go along with it.

It feels like we’re regressing massively towards a much more racist, sexiest and intolerant society. You see things in America like rolling back abortion rights etc and it’s depressing and hugely worrying.

[Hibspur]

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Reform have been given a massive boost by media and social media companies pushing their agenda.

Farage should have had nowhere near the air time he had over the last decade or so but he’s been platformed at every opportunity and that’s given legitimacy to right wing views.

You look on social media - Twitter in particular - and it’s all aimed at that narrative and folk see enough of it and think it’s the popular view, so eventually go along with it.

It feels like we’re regressing massively towards a much more racist, sexiest and intolerant society. You see things in America like rolling back abortion rights etc and it’s depressing and hugely worrying.

Farage doesn't get the air time he does simply because the media facilitates it. He does so because, like it or not, he's arguably the most influential figure in British politics of the last decade, ever since the days when he transformed UKIP from a fringe act to a significant political force.

As I said in my previous post, the shift in what has ticked the boxes of so many voters during that time is what's played into the hands of more right-wing governments. It's not just the big beasts like immigration, but cultural issues like gender ideology where the centre/left have dropped the ball. In Scotland, for example, Nicola Sturgeon's obsession with such issues has exacerbated situations like the extraordinary court case currently playing out in Dundee where a qualified doctor expects to be taken seriously when claiming biology is an opinion rather than a science and that a biological man is woman just because he says he is. Extraordinarily, when you consider some of his past comments about (and behaviour around) women, Donald Trump has arguably achieved more for women's rights since taking office by signing a directive against biological males taking part in women's sport than 'feminist to my fingertips' Sturgeon did during her whole time as first minister.

[Jones28]

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Farage doesn't get the air time he does simply because the media facilitates it. He does so because, like it or not, he's arguably the most influential figure in British politics of the last decade, ever since the days when he transformed UKIP from a fringe act to a significant political force.

As I said in my previous post, the shift in what has ticked the boxes of so many voters during that time is what's played into the hands of more right-wing governments. It's not just the big beasts like immigration, but cultural issues like gender ideology where the centre/left have dropped the ball. In Scotland, for example, Nicola Sturgeon's obsession with such issues has exacerbated situations like the extraordinary court case currently playing out in Dundee where a qualified doctor expects to be taken seriously when claiming biology is an opinion rather than a science and that a biological man is woman just because he says he is. Extraordinarily, when you consider some of his past comments about (and behaviour around) women, Donald Trump has arguably achieved more for women's rights since taking office by signing a directive against biological males taking part in women's sport than 'feminist to my fingertips' Sturgeon did during her whole time as first minister.

He was getting and continues to get more than his fair share of coverage from the BBC. How does his involvement with a political party that only became relevant up to the Brexit vote merit him having 1.5 appearances per year on Question Time for example? He has the 4th highest appearance rate on Question Time and has been on the panel 37 times since 2000.

[Pretty Boy]

James ****ing Watt.

Like the most insufferable Linkedin profile in the world was personified then had a massive midlife crisis.

The prick's prick.

[grunt]

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Extraordinarily, when you consider some of his past comments about (and behaviour around) women, Donald Trump has arguably achieved more for women's rights since taking office by signing a directive against biological males taking part in women's sport than 'feminist to my fingertips' Sturgeon did during her whole time as first minister.

Well I guess that's one way of looking at it ...

[easty]

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James ****ing Watt.

Like the most insufferable Linkedin profile in the world was personified then had a massive midlife crisis.

The prick's prick.

He's so desperate to be liked, but he clearly has zero self-awareness or social skills.

[Smartie]

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Farage doesn't get the air time he does simply because the media facilitates it. He does so because, like it or not, he's arguably the most influential figure in British politics of the last decade, ever since the days when he transformed UKIP from a fringe act to a significant political force.

As I said in my previous post, the shift in what has ticked the boxes of so many voters during that time is what's played into the hands of more right-wing governments. It's not just the big beasts like immigration, but cultural issues like gender ideology where the centre/left have dropped the ball. In Scotland, for example, Nicola Sturgeon's obsession with such issues has exacerbated situations like the extraordinary court case currently playing out in Dundee where a qualified doctor expects to be taken seriously when claiming biology is an opinion rather than a science and that a biological man is woman just because he says he is. Extraordinarily, when you consider some of his past comments about (and behaviour around) women, Donald Trump has arguably achieved more for women's rights since taking office by signing a directive against biological males taking part in women's sport than 'feminist to my fingertips' Sturgeon did during her whole time as first minister.

"Arguably".

[lapsedhibee]

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Farage doesn't get the air time he does simply because the media facilitates it. He does so because, like it or not, he's arguably the most influential figure in British politics of the last decade, ever since the days when he transformed UKIP from a fringe act to a significant political force.

As I said in my previous post, the shift in what has ticked the boxes of so many voters during that time is what's played into the hands of more right-wing governments. It's not just the big beasts like immigration, but cultural issues like gender ideology where the centre/left have dropped the ball. In Scotland, for example, Nicola Sturgeon's obsession with such issues has exacerbated situations like the extraordinary court case currently playing out in Dundee where a qualified doctor expects to be taken seriously when claiming biology is an opinion rather than a science and that a biological man is woman just because he says he is. Extraordinarily, when you consider some of his past comments about (and behaviour around) women, Donald Trump has arguably achieved more for women's rights since taking office by signing a directive against biological males taking part in women's sport than 'feminist to my fingertips' Sturgeon did during her whole time as first minister.

Right-oh.

[He's here!]

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He was getting and continues to get more than his fair share of coverage from the BBC. How does his involvement with a political party that only became relevant up to the Brexit vote merit him having 1.5 appearances per year on Question Time for example? He has the 4th highest appearance rate on Question Time and has been on the panel 37 times since 2000.

I don't watch Question Time as I think it's awful, but my sister-in-law was a BBC researcher some years ago and I remember her telling me they'd sometimes struggle to balance the panel when it came to politicians, particularly if the government of the day was taking particularly heavy flak for something. Might explain why Farage is a bit of a go-to guest in the appearance table (who are the three above him?). He's not one to shirk an opportunity.

[CropleyWasGod]

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James ****ing Watt.

Like the most insufferable Linkedin profile in the world was personified then had a massive midlife crisis.

The prick's prick.

Not sure if you've read the same thing that I have, just now.

Seems to be keen on setting up a "Shadow Doge" campaign, not unlike that Swasticar dude. Following that well-worn path that so many business people have, on the assumption that "if I can run a company, I can run a country".

"A self-made man is forever praising his creator".

[hibsbollah]

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Farage doesn't get the air time he does simply because the media facilitates it. He does so because, like it or not, he's arguably the most influential figure in British politics of the last decade, ever since the days when he transformed UKIP from a fringe act to a significant political force.

As I said in my previous post, the shift in what has ticked the boxes of so many voters during that time is what's played into the hands of more right-wing governments. It's not just the big beasts like immigration, but cultural issues like gender ideology where the centre/left have dropped the ball. In Scotland, for example, Nicola Sturgeon's obsession with such issues has exacerbated situations like the extraordinary court case currently playing out in Dundee where a qualified doctor expects to be taken seriously when claiming biology is an opinion rather than a science and that a biological man is woman just because he says he is. Extraordinarily, when you consider some of his past comments about (and behaviour around) women, Donald Trump has arguably achieved more for women's rights since taking office by signing a directive against biological males taking part in women's sport than 'feminist to my fingertips' Sturgeon did during her whole time as first minister.

You’re wrong there, or at least you’re confusing the issues you feel strongly about wity the ones that the majority of other voters do. Although (regrettably in my view) attitudes against trans people have hardened in recent years, gender issues are nowhere near the key issues that voters report to be most concerned about, not even in the top ten in any reputable polling. Despite the fact it generates clicks, its ‘sex’, so it sells, and so gets way more news coverage than it deserves, people just couldnt give a monkeys about someones gender identity or whether or not concessions are made for them. Check the polling. ONS or yougov should do.

The economy is what has motivated people to vote the way they do and that remains the case today. The reason immigration remains an issue of concern for US and UK voters is PRECISELY because its seen as being about the economy; somehow the billionaire class has persuaded the working class that years of them robbing state assets in the form of tax cuts for themselves ISNT the reason living standards are falling through the floor for 90% of us, itsall thefault of brown people in rubber dinghies fleeing persecution and conflict Health, education, war and crime follow, but gender, or ‘family issues’? (Widely used as a euphemism for not liking gays/trans/legal abortion-something that COST Trump plenty of support, incidentally)Nowhere to be seen in the top areas of concern.

[lapsedhibee]

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It feels like we’re regressing massively towards a much more racist, sexiest and intolerant society.

Well up for the middle bit of that.