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    Could you not have a taken another photo until you got one he liked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Could you not have a taken another photo until you got one he liked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matty_f View Post
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    Could you not have a taken another photo until you got one he liked?

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    I’ll start this by saying absolutely everyone on the roads annoyed me today but specifically people who don’t understand traffic lights.

    I was on salamander court turning left onto salamander street when the car in front of me slams their brakes on because they thought the traffic lights as they turned were for them.

    Also the roadworks that appeared today at Albion Road and Brunswick Road can do one. 15 minutes it took me to get down St Claire Street earlier.

    Rant over, for now

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_girl View Post
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    I’ll start this by saying absolutely everyone on the roads annoyed me today but specifically people who don’t understand traffic lights.

    I was on salamander court turning left onto salamander street when the car in front of me slams their brakes on because they thought the traffic lights as they turned were for them.

    Also the roadworks that appeared today at Albion Road and Brunswick Road can do one. 15 minutes it took me to get down St Claire Street earlier.

    Rant over, for now
    This is happening all too often, cars turning right or left and seeing the lights for the cars coming the other way and thinking it's for them, bloody dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    This is happening all too often, cars turning right or left and seeing the lights for the cars coming the other way and thinking it's for them, bloody dangerous.
    I don’t know where this has came from. Never seen it until a few years ago and now appears to be relatively common.

    It’s so dumb it’s almost incomprehensible.

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    I don’t know where this has came from. Never seen it until a few years ago and now appears to be relatively common.

    It’s so dumb it’s almost incomprehensible.
    I've seen loads of cars being caught out by this coming from the M9 slip onto New bridge....quite frightening!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-C View Post
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    This is happening all too often, cars turning right or left and seeing the lights for the cars coming the other way and thinking it's for them, bloody dangerous.
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    I don’t know where this has came from. Never seen it until a few years ago and now appears to be relatively common.

    It’s so dumb it’s almost incomprehensible.
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    I've seen loads of cars being caught out by this coming from the M9 slip onto New bridge....quite frightening!
    I’m so glad it’s not just me that comes across these people 😄

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    Watched an idiot drive onto a roundabout this evening, then proceeded to stop completely to fiddle with his phone whilst still on the roundabout, as traffic tried to navigate around him, then just started driving off without even checking for other moving traffic around his car

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    There’s something in the water at the minute. I had to drive a very short journey after walking to pick up my partner and kids and on d 5 minute journey there were 3 absolute imbeciles of various descriptions.

    My mate cycles in from Gullane to his work in Edinburgh and has taken to having a camera on the front of his bike. He puts the worst of what he encounters in compilations on Facebook and some of what he has to put up with is staggering.

    I know I wouldn’t be putting up with it and he’s almost certainly going to be killed making that journey one of these days imo.

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    I know I shouldn't get "raging" at such behaviour, but I really do wonder what people are thinking about when they drive like a character from the Mad Max franchise.
    Coming home from a nightshift, 6am, roads are quiet and I'm crossing north-south on Gillespie crossroads, notice a car coming from Juniper Green that almosts goes through a red light, as I head towards Colinton he's up my tail, he's definitely jumped that red.
    Going in to Colinton village, I slow to the posted 20 and they're all over my backside before recklessly pulling out as another car is coming towards us and tears off up the hill past the Colly Inn.
    Guesstimate, he's doing 40/50 through the lights.

    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    I know I shouldn't get "raging" at such behaviour, but I really do wonder what people are thinking about when they drive like a character from the Mad Max franchise.
    Coming home from a nightshift, 6am, roads are quiet and I'm crossing north-south on Gillespie crossroads, notice a car coming from Juniper Green that almosts goes through a red light, as I head towards Colinton he's up my tail, he's definitely jumped that red.
    Going in to Colinton village, I slow to the posted 20 and they're all over my backside before recklessly pulling out as another car is coming towards us and tears off up the hill past the Colly Inn.
    Guesstimate, he's doing 40/50 through the lights.

    Why?
    Could be suffering from Microphallus Syndrome

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    It would be great if we could arrange a track day or something with the main contributors of this thread and be officially assessed for our skills 😲
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    Someone was driving up the wrong way in the car park at ocean terminal today. How difficult is it to follow arrows?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_girl View Post
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    Someone was driving up the wrong way in the car park at ocean terminal today. How difficult is it to follow arrows?
    I genuinely think a lot of people don't think signage applies in car parks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hibee_girl View Post
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    Someone was driving up the wrong way in the car park at ocean terminal today. How difficult is it to follow arrows?
    There were dozens of them when I was there

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    Quote Originally Posted by overdrive View Post
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    I genuinely think a lot of people don't think signage applies in car parks.

    I’d tweak your response to say a lot of people don’t think signage applies to them

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    There were dozens of them when I was there
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    Not intending to victim blame - PB was clearly in the right - and not excusing drivers ignoring rules of the road, just saying it's a fact that drivers often don't see cyclists, and a good strategy for dealing with the fact that some drivers sometimes don't see cyclists is to assume that all drivers may or will not see you. PB and you and I are perched on maybe 15kg of metal, drivers are safe inside 2 tonnes of it. It's not a question of anyone being out to get anyone else, it's just self preservation in a hostile (15 v 2000) environment.
    I just caught up with this and agree completely. I cycle through town into work 30 mins each way and in that hour I am constantly expecting mad behaviour, parked car doors opening without warning, electric bikes and deliveroo ***** coming past at high speed. I go way slower than i need to and my bike is capable of. Being ultradefensive is the only way to do it. Never speak too soon of course, but i feel safe most of the time and i cycle at the busiest times of the day, and id encourage anyone to do it really. The cycle lanes are a game changer. The city is broken for cars.

    Goes without saying theres always a chance that what happened to PB will happen, whatever the situation, and no blame is attached.

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    To go back to traffic lights how bad are people for jumping red lights now?

    You always got the old 'amber gambler' but it seems amber now just means go or speed up to make sure you get through rather than only go if you have passed the stop line or it's safer to continue. Red now seems to mean stop unless you are behind the guy who has just tore through on amber then you can continue as well.

    I don't drive home often but when I do I have to use the Wisp crossroads. The traffic coming from Duddingston Road South is a joke: at least 2 cars jump the red light on every cycle. No wonder there is an accident every few weeks. Someone is going to be killed before long, nothing surer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    To go back to traffic lights how bad are people for jumping red lights now?

    You always got the old 'amber gambler' but it seems amber now just means go or speed up to make sure you get through rather than only go if you have passed the stop line or it's safer to continue. Red now seems to mean stop unless you are behind the guy who has just tore through on amber then you can continue as well.

    I don't drive home often but when I do I have to use the Wisp crossroads. The traffic coming from Duddingston Road South is a joke: at least 2 cars jump the red light on every cycle. No wonder there is an accident every few weeks. Someone is going to be killed before long, nothing surer.
    That Junction should be changed to one at a time rather than alternate direction traffic. It's nearly impossible for cars to turn left or right in any direction hence all the jumping.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    To go back to traffic lights how bad are people for jumping red lights now?

    You always got the old 'amber gambler' but it seems amber now just means go or speed up to make sure you get through rather than only go if you have passed the stop line or it's safer to continue. Red now seems to mean stop unless you are behind the guy who has just tore through on amber then you can continue as well.

    I don't drive home often but when I do I have to use the Wisp crossroads. The traffic coming from Duddingston Road South is a joke: at least 2 cars jump the red light on every cycle. No wonder there is an accident every few weeks. Someone is going to be killed before long, nothing surer.

    I was driving in the west end in Glasgow on Sunday, slowed down to stop at a traffic light, and some maniac overtook us on the wrong side of the road. He flew through the lights, narrowly missing the cars that, by then, were going through the green light at the other junction.

    That was one of the worst of recent cases but, IMO, driving in general seems to have got a lot worse since the end of lockdown.

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    I done something that I'm not necessarily proud of today, I was driving along lower Granton road and the car in front was driving 10 ish mph the whole way, stopping nearly every time a car was approaching the opposite direction to let them by, I got so frustrated I overtook when a safe opportunity presented it's self. I know I shouldn't have on a road like that but it was just soo slow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatecrasher View Post
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    I done something that I'm not necessarily proud of today, I was driving along lower Granton road and the car in front was driving 10 ish mph the whole way, stopping nearly every time a car was approaching the opposite direction to let them by, I got so frustrated I overtook when a safe opportunity presented it's self. I know I shouldn't have on a road like that but it was just soo slow!
    I don't think you've done anything wrong there, broken white lines so you're allowed to overtake. As long as you didn't breach the posted max limit then what's the issue?
    Both my car and motorbike instructors instilled in me that safe "progress" is what it's all about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedy_gonzales View Post
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    I don't think you've done anything wrong there, broken white lines so you're allowed to overtake. As long as you didn't breach the posted max limit then what's the issue?
    Both my car and motorbike instructors instilled in me that safe "progress" is what it's all about.
    I think because it was done out of frustration and on a tight road, I would have no issue doing this on a Country road. But in the city felt wrong. I would have done the same to a cyclist so I think it's ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatecrasher View Post
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    I think because it was done out of frustration and on a tight road, I would have no issue doing this on a Country road. But in the city felt wrong. I would have done the same to a cyclist so I think it's ok.
    Its perfectly fine.

    My current peeve is folk sticking to the outside lane in queued up traffic and then not allowing anyone in the inside lane in when a bus lane starts.

    I live near the roundabout at the South Gyle Access road and the South Gyle Industrial Estate. If I'm going out between 5 and 6 Mon-Thu, the traffic is queued right back from the lights at Bankhead, over the roundabout and back towards the Gyle. Turning left from South Gyle towards Bankhead (really second left due to the small road that goes into the school/Nova Scotia Way), I go into the inside lane which is completely empty and is a normal lane for a reasonable distance up to roughly the rugby club where the bus lane starts for the remainder of the stretch to the lights at Bankhead. Then it is a pain in the backside to get into the outside lane as hardly anyone wants to let you in as it seems to them that you've just been a dick to bypass the queue. It is what you are meant to do! Even if I didn't do that and waited to try get into the outside lane right from the off at the roundabout, I'd be waiting even longer as even less people let you in.

    Which brings me to another issue. The amount of people who block a roundabout in such instances. If I want to instead turn right at the roundabout to go towards West Gate Farm/the Gyle (or straight on into the industrial estate), I can't because everyone blocks the roundabout queuing to go towards Bankhead and nobody lets you through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pretty Boy View Post
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    To go back to traffic lights how bad are people for jumping red lights now?

    You always got the old 'amber gambler' but it seems amber now just means go or speed up to make sure you get through rather than only go if you have passed the stop line or it's safer to continue. Red now seems to mean stop unless you are behind the guy who has just tore through on amber then you can continue as well.

    I don't drive home often but when I do I have to use the Wisp crossroads. The traffic coming from Duddingston Road South is a joke: at least 2 cars jump the red light on every cycle. No wonder there is an accident every few weeks. Someone is going to be killed before long, nothing surer.
    Driving standards have undoubtedly gotten worse - you’re spot on with the red light jumpers, I see it virtually every day now.
    Speeding, ignoring incoming traffic priority signs, just going at give way junctions and roundabouts when it’s patently not safe to do so, speeding, parking.

    I think a fair bit of this comes from the rise of professional drivers in the big economy world - Uber/Uber Eats etc who rely on quantity of orders completed to earn a living.

    I was coming down Clermiston Brae the other night and the lights changed to green for cyclists heading down the hill (which were the lights I was waiting at) which meant that the lights for traffic coming from the left must be on red, and a woman came speeding out the junction. Thankfully there was no cyclist there, but had there been they’d have stood no chance.

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    Not a peeve so much as joining in. Walking the dog earlier and nearing a railway bridge. Said bridge has a priority direction as you can't get two cars through at the same time. The big van who wasn't about to give the correct priority slammed on the brakes when he realised the car with priority was already coming through. Thankfully there's a "lay by" for him to almost hit the bollards. I don't think we were far off from being swerved into from behind. There was no way he was diving at the posted 30 either.

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