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    Quote Originally Posted by s.a.m View Post
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    That already happened the last time. China was the American primary export market for their soy bean harvest. China slapped equivalent, retaliatory tariffs on US soy beans, and their importers immediately switched to other markets, particularly Brazil. They also changed their livestock feed to be less dependant on soy. As a result, US soy farmers were left with harvests they couldn't sell.

    The US government compensated select industries that would have been otherwise ruined by Trump's trade wars. I read recently that the soy bean farmers (predominantly Republican) actually were over- compensated , so that they made more money from being ruined than they did from their annual crop.
    I can see Tesla getting hit hard in any retaliations. I wouldn’t be holding Tesla stock now just in case.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    I can see Tesla getting hit hard in any retaliations. I wouldn’t be holding Tesla stock now just in case.
    Au contraire. If the established precedent is for USGov to overcompensate losers, then Tesla will do very well. Buy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Au contraire. If the established precedent is for USGov to overcompensate losers, then Tesla will do very well. Buy!
    Might not be as easy to get helping Elon through Congress as helping farmers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Might not be as easy to get helping Elon through Congress as helping farmers.
    Will be interesting to see whether the Republicans support Trump come what may, or act as a brake. Not too optimistic myself.

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    Will be interesting to see whether the Republicans support Trump come what may, or act as a brake. Not too optimistic myself.
    Over the last two days they've been lining up to support his picks for Defense and AG, so I wouldn't hold my breath. Hegseth looks like an ignorant oaf and Bondi is pretty and blonde but both of them are renowned for their slavish loyalty to Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Will be interesting to see whether the Republicans support Trump come what may, or act as a brake. Not too optimistic myself.
    Me neither. They haven't shown much backbone so far. And last time, there were still normals in key leadership positions in the military, intelligence and civil service; this time, it's loyalists and nutjobs and extremists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lapsedhibee View Post
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    Will be interesting to see whether the Republicans support Trump come what may, or act as a brake. Not too optimistic myself.
    They have a majority of one in the Congress but there are a couple of republicans who are absolute debt fundamentalists and won’t vote for any spending that increases debt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    They have a majority of one in the Congress but there are a couple of republicans who are absolute debt fundamentalists and won’t vote for any spending that increases debt.


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    This is true, and hopefully it will slow down Trump's worst impulses. He's said that he's got a big list of Executive Orders to implement on day one which may get him over that obstacle, though, unless they're subsequently found to be unconstitutional / illegal. Keeping my fingers crossed, but not overly hopeful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.a.m View Post
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    This is true, and hopefully it will slow down Trump's worst impulses. He's said that he's got a big list of Executive Orders to implement on day one which may get him over that obstacle, though, unless they're subsequently found to be unconstitutional / illegal. Keeping my fingers crossed, but not overly hopeful.
    He can do a lot of executive orders but if they require funding then he has to get that from Congress.


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    The other big issue for Trump is that he’s only got one term. Once the conversation turns to who will replace him (and it will fairly quickly) that will start to hamstring him.
    I also think he’ll fall out with Musk sooner rather than later and the divorce there will be messier than any similar parting Trump has dealt with before.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Off the bar View Post
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    The other big issue for Trump is that he’s only got one term. Once the conversation turns to who will replace him (and it will fairly quickly) that will start to hamstring him.
    I also think he’ll fall out with Musk sooner rather than later and the divorce there will be messier than any similar parting Trump has dealt with before.
    I honestly think we’ll see him try and push for a constitutional change to allow another term and if he’s got the back of the Supreme Court…. Nothing would surprise me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    They have a majority of one in the Congress but there are a couple of republicans who are absolute debt fundamentalists and won’t vote for any spending that increases debt.
    Expect the RINO slur to be used loudly and hourly against them until their position eventually becomes untenable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    I honestly think we’ll see him try and push for a constitutional change to allow another term and if he’s got the back of the Supreme Court…. Nothing would surprise me.
    I expect so too.

    And if for any reason he doesn't manage that then he'll manipulate the situation so some sort of patsy is in charge and he can pull the strings from the background.

    I'm not actually all that convinced he'll live that long. Terrible diet by all accounts and a bit of weight on him for a man of his age.

    Scary few years ahead though.

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    I see he’s taking credit for the ceasefire in Palestine.. absolutely shameless stuff.
    Lammy gave him a mention today in his statement.

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    I expect so too.

    And if for any reason he doesn't manage that then he'll manipulate the situation so some sort of patsy is in charge and he can pull the strings from the background.

    I'm not actually all that convinced he'll live that long. Terrible diet by all accounts and a bit of weight on him for a man of his age.

    Scary few years ahead though.
    Less scary with the pleasant thought of his demise albeit Musk or Vance may be as bad or worse.

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    Trump’s New York civil fraud judgment reaches new eye-popping milestone: report

    New York fraud case now stands at $502m

    $114k interest per day


    and he still owes E Jean Carroll $88m


    hope he's been saving up from all that pathetic junk he's been flogging

    he can still ask his hard of thinking half-wits to stump up for him, all he needs to do is wear his made in China MAGA baseball cap and donations will flood in

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    I see his pal, Musk’s latest SpaceX Starship venture has failed. Destroyed in mid air. That’s the good news……… the not so good news is the chaos caused to civil air flights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    I see his pal, Musk’s latest SpaceX Starship venture has failed. Destroyed in mid air. That’s the good news……… the not so good news is the chaos caused to civil air flights.
    Woke rocket scientists.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    I see his pal, Musk’s latest SpaceX Starship venture has failed. Destroyed in mid air. That’s the good news……… the not so good news is the chaos caused to civil air flights.
    Excuse me but I think you'll find it was a rapid unscheduled disassembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim44 View Post
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    I see his pal, Musk’s latest SpaceX Starship venture has failed. Destroyed in mid air. That’s the good news……… the not so good news is the chaos caused to civil air flights.
    What a complete and utter waste of time, resources and money.

    The idea that people will live on Mars with the technology we have available is nonsense.

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    Excuse me but I think you'll find it was a rapid unscheduled disassembly.

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    German central bank makes move away from X. Hopefully other govt agencies across Europe start to do the same.


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    What a complete and utter waste of time, resources and money.

    The idea that people will live on Mars with the technology we have available is nonsense.

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    I tend to agree on the Mars thing, I don't think we'll see people living on Mars in my lifetime but the Starship is also going to be used as a moon lander by NASA when they return to the moon and these tests are part of the development for that, with Mars being Musk's ultimate dream.

    The space race that the USA and Russia engaged in led to massive leaps forward in technology many of which we use today. The current space race has been taken up by private industry and one extremely rich mans dream/vanity project, but the advances in space technology that have happened with Space X have been pretty incredible and you only have to look at where things sat before SpaceX got involved and the state of and cost of NASA's Artemis program to see how far behind national space agencies are.

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...uverify%20wall

    The US Federal Reserve has withdrawn from the group of central banks founded to navigate climate risks to the financial system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kato View Post
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    What a complete and utter waste of time, resources and money.

    The idea that people will live on Mars with the technology we have available is nonsense.

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    So you're ruling out the possibility of the synthetic who really runs what the USA has become skipping merrily hand in hand across the cosmos with the big orange guy?

    Surely it could be crowd funded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lendo View Post
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    I honestly think we’ll see him try and push for a constitutional change to allow another term and if he’s got the back of the Supreme Court…. Nothing would surprise me.

    I thought he’d have already made comments about it tbh

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    (Soon to be) Former President Donald Trump

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    I honestly think we’ll see him try and push for a constitutional change to allow another term and if he’s got the back of the Supreme Court…. Nothing would surprise me.
    I think you need a 2/3 majority in the senate for constitutional change which neither party can get for sensible things like gun control, so there is zero chance they get it to give Trump another term.
    You hear people on the far right suggest it every now and then but it’s impossible so they quickly drop it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by s.a.m View Post
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    This is true, and hopefully it will slow down Trump's worst impulses. He's said that he's got a big list of Executive Orders to implement on day one which may get him over that obstacle, though, unless they're subsequently found to be unconstitutional / illegal. Keeping my fingers crossed, but not overly hopeful.
    Looking forward to him holding up those bits of paper with his signature again which have absolutely zero effect because he can’t get the funding from Congress to implement.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozyhibby View Post
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    Looking forward to him holding up those bits of paper with his signature again which have absolutely zero effect because he can’t get the funding from Congress to implement.


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    He is in his smiling importantly whilst doing those big fancy signatures then smiling whilst he holds his drawing up.

    Hopefully they'll find a way to put him in a corner with an Etch a Sketch whilst the grown ups chat amongst themselves

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    German central bank makes move away from X. Hopefully other govt agencies across Europe start to do the same.


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    I’ve moved to Bluesky and there loads less guff on that. I’d close my x down but there are some clips on the school account of my son and I can’t work out how to save them off line so I’d lose access.

    I saw one too many post with Tommy Robinson dressed as a crusader and Trump as jesus on tiktok, so that’s been deleted.

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